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@ᶰ°Konͧsti @noby should we continue our discussion here?

09:29

I don't think every DDNet developer should be involved

they read even more unrelated stuff there

09:30

Then you will definetely not love infNext. As it's even more actively overdeveloped.

09:30

Though we're balancing every new change and I am taking feedback from players.

i miss teleports

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Best feature

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Ever

And you will not have your account deleted as we don't have proper account system yet

09:31

@ᶰ°Konͧsti I still want to add teleports to the game. Though too many players told me that this was the worst feature in terms of exploitability and confusion.

I mean the ones that could be set if ur in the Teleporter class but can be used by everyone

In fact there is so many things I've added recently: new classes, taxi, modified witch (queen/worker), even serverside bots activatable with /bot.

So only 2 things there are to add are user-placeable portals and vehicles.

Vehicles wtf

09:33

Its not battlefield mod

@ᶰ°Konͧsti is there youtube gameplay or alive server where teleports are not disabled?

09:33

@ᶰ°Konͧsti yes, but I love battlefield mod and want to add a Driver class

09:33

that could summon/find a vehicle in game

the hookcoll thing was probably just bitch626 being a bitch

anyway I want to add placeable destroyable turrets first

idk, its been years ago when ddos626 deleted the teleporters

what is hookcoll?

09:34

Eventually everyone deleted teleporters.

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@ᶰ°Konͧsti yes, but I love battlefield mod and want to add a Driver class

Make independent battlefield mod then

@ᶰ°Konͧsti too much work.

The hookline

09:35

It gives u no advantage

Banning for hook collision hint line is crazy.

the line that is red unless ur aiming a tee then its yellow or a hookable tile then its green

09:35

ikr

It even doesn't help much.

But hes just retard

people call my server strict but at least i dont ban ppl for hookline lol

It freezes u for a second

hes dumb ddoser

and i have it on s

09:36

Nice when ur at a bunch of zombies missclick s

09:36

@ᶰ°Konͧsti so far I've heard every infClass admin was retard: stitch, breton and so on. I think I will be remembered as such to, by a tradition. And because I've made things even more complex in infNext

Where is necropogay

but u arent a ddoser and u dont ban people for insulting so ur already better than those two

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Imagine not joining the game for 1 month and then you have 3 new classes with 8 new mechanics total.

09:36

Superjump best feature

09:37

on minecraft safok

ᶰ°Konͧsti

Superjump best feature

@ᶰ°Konͧsti my spider have 3 jumps now, and second one is a fast dash forward. And we have levitation now (voluntary and not). (edited)

The MOST annoying thing was ddos626 changing the entities so i couldnt see infection zone and kill

09:38

Thats when i stopped playing it

in infNext (as in infCroya) infection zone is not entities based

09:39

so you could not see it in entities mode too

I could place some tiles just for visuals though

09:40

though even ipoopi, a huge fan of entities mode just learns inf circle positions

09:40

and those are usually well separated from the main game zone

konstroll wants entities so he can zooz

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ipoopi troll

09:40

Yeah exactly

ipoopi is one of the best infClass players ever

ipoopi is good at fng too

09:40

mastered Magician class in the first 2 days

I was the best inf player

u were probably zoozing

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lmao

Yeah

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lol

@Deleted User ban him

fv

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Useless without zoz

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no being angery

noby

but u arent a ddoser and u dont ban people for insulting so ur already better than those two

But I've banned Cyberfighter from discord for an obscure reason

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why

09:42

why to both

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i never banned him on discord

09:42

i did ban him on tw before

09:42

for zooz

I don't remember tbh. Just got tired of his trolling

why ban cybertroll

fv

Wtf

09:42

Retard

welcome to teeworlds

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there are trolls

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lol

Now I am on a list

Have to try Stresstest on ur servor now

09:43

just testing purposes

We stresstest daily

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09:43

Mostly players though

09:44

So many ragequit with "is that supposed to be funny? I am not getting what's going on"

is what supposed to be funny

09:44

lol what did u do

Just people hate being zombies and not getting tons of accumulated infClass rules

09:45

that was even before I've introduced many new classes and mechanics

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so it was pretty vanilla back then

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People rarely vocalise reason of rq

09:46

they just run to fire extinguisher to save their chair

becase ur help button doesnt work

no time to write a feedback

because someone crashed the server with it

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@noby btw, I've fixed /help yesterday

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nice

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can i try to crash it agin

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xd

After 1+ month (!) of being disabled

ye

Yes, you can.

09:47

I've just reused ddnet commands and not doing weird string black magic now to do metaprogramming.

09:47

Everything is manual now so it should not crash.

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@ᶰ°Konͧsti

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help me crash infnext

u

09:48

its bugtest (edited)

I dont do auch troling

its not trolling lmao

09:48

its helpful

5 days without a crash, I feel like something is missing now

its troling cuz U do it

maybe players

09:48

or I've just stopped adding new bugs

09:49

@noby btw, I've found a weird new trick to prevent crashing.

what trick

09:49

@ᶰ°Konͧsti it was just a test lmao

I check if m_Player have ANY pointers set. If it's not, then the instance is deleted.

09:50

And it fixed most segfaults. So simple.

lol

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nice

09:50

weird that this would be the fix

Yes, but I've accidentally noticed that in crash dump my current instance "exists" but all values are 0/false especially pointers.

09:54

So it seems that an instance was properly destroyed but pointer wasn't.

09:54

I am just lucky that my mod (or C++ ?) nullify everything on instance destroy. (edited)

it doesnt but u can make it

anyway, even not knowing why this is happening I can use it to my benefit

09:55

and I am so happy about that

09:56

cause this is really a dumb trick which fixes big problem and I need no deep knowledge to use it

:D

@ᶰ°Konͧsti

Original infection on minecraftsafok was the best feelsamazingman

I hear this every time. Still it wasn't best enough for somebody to maintain a server.

09:57

Along with "classic infClass is the best" and there are like 10 infClass empty sevrers. (edited)

they need infclass with botdetection server

Go make one

So it must be about nostalgia and childhood memories and not because people really want to play old mods.

vbot hast an infection botting mode

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@ᶰ°Konͧsti

Original infection on minecraftsafok was the best feelsamazingman

I hear this every time. Still it wasn't best enough for somebody to maintain a server.

The source were lost

It could be remade in a weekend.

u

Or in a hour if you use infClass as a base and just remove classes.

pure luck mod is based on ddnet

10:00

he could use a static linked antibot lib like ddnet

noby is based on drugs

fv

@noby still I've never ever seen a player with cheat flag set.

@Deleted User u are lucky lol

I know I don't have a lib, but I've merged that commit.

search my fng #bots channel for "nonstandard client flags="

10:01

and ull see like

This just shows that botting doesn't gives much benefits to inf games.

a shit ton

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almost 2000

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well depends on the bot

Hm... or they're automatically banned on my server already?

10:02

And this is the reason I don't see them

u dont detect them

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good he cant catch my zoz

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We could check that someday.

10:02

~~zooz is just one line of code~~

the idea is to just make the server restrict snapradius as much as possible

10:03

so even if they zooz

its only two chars literally

it doesnt give a significant advantage

//

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@admin

@noby any server restricts snapradius

but u can restrict it more

Allow showall

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@noby dynamic camera will not work then

Good

10:03

Remove dyn

though I've though about adding phantom enemies in snapradius BEHIND the player look direction

Hahaha

so that could make zooz paranoid

noby did that already

really?

10:04

yeah

@noby is that true?

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though I've though about adding phantom enemies in snapradius BEHIND the player look direction

this

it is true but its not enabled rn

i need to finish it but the core idea works

10:05

where it spawns enemies out of view range

So im not annoyed when playing he turned off

and uses player identities from tees that are far away

10:05

no because u havent been on server it doesnt need to be on

10:05

next month i Come

10:06

without zoz tbh

10:06

didnt // yet

I've tried zooz on my server it allowed me to take great screenshots. And it is giving some advantage in infNext tbh, though not big. But whole game felt like all dynamics and trill was gone. (edited)

will feel better once ur used to it

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My default zooz is -6

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aka 4

yet

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u know

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i have ASN ban command now

fv