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Between 2020-11-02 00:00:00Z and 2020-11-03 00:00:00Z

what does the command cl_dummy_hook do? it doesnt seem to work as cl_dummy_hammer atleast i cant get my dummy to hook with that , i wanted to 3fly with dummy but idk how to bind it

s it normal for me to dream of making a map?i remember the design And it was not bad

same

justatest

monkaS

monkalaugh

01:41

Some noobs can’t read

read what ?

Those script that yells at you to join a team

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oh, so you like ddnet? name all the tees

Uhh-uhh-uhhhhh-..

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@louis DO A KICKFLIP

@burk set sv_register 1 in server config, forward port 8303 udp on your router, run DDNet-Server. Alternatively try out https://trashmap.ddnet.tw/

@Nice🌙 unbanned

weird

sash fan on block

DDNet GER1 - novice (Perma) 19_ Blocking and annoying beginners. @Moderator

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Hybarybayba

I play fng IP:

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94.16.119.249:1205

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1x1

I play teeworlds in real life

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66.95.15.48.35.785.564.54548.:59485.1545.::55955

ok so this has been happening to me on some maps for a while now, if I spec/walk over some parts of some maps my game freezes and a black screen follows, I lost many runs because of this, can someone tell me how to fix this?

@JMarcell same problem with my old laptop

same as louis?

troll

What it wideo

16:46

Video

16:46

Heh

@JMarcell gfx_opengl_major 1 might help. it seems to be a problem with the Intel GPU driver on Windows. You can try downloading the latest one from Intel website

finishing all novice maps gives u 420 points now

poggers

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17:02

justatest

troll

17:03

all novice maps from now $decline

@deen gfx opengl major 1 fixed it, thanks deen

@JMarcell if u get the crash again with gl 1.x tell us xd

@Deleted User can we detect intel gpu from opengl and then default to gfx_opengl_major 1? (only on Windows) (edited)

17:20

it doesn't seem to solve the problem 100%, but at least makes it better

well we should be able to detect intels yes, the opengl vendor string should contain something with "Intel"

nice

17:22

I guess we don't know the exact driver version affected

yeah hard to say, im really wondering if its actually the driver that came with the windows update

17:22

bcs it came so sudden, and only in version 15.x, while we already had the new renderer way before

yeah, that would explain it

17:23

we don't have a bug open at intel/microsoft yet?

well louis tried a newer version and didnt seem to have problems with it(except other issues unrelated to crashes) if im not mistaken

17:24

so maybe they are aware and just dont care, or microsoft doesnt want so many updates, i dunno xD

so microsoft just needs to update the intel driver

could be infinite reasons

yeah, ms updates rarely, but we should still make sure that they are even planning to update the intel driver in the next cycle

well we can say, we tried asan, and didnt find a memory leak inside our code, so yes, we should do it

Could you try that? I'm not so familiar with this topic

well appearently you can only feedback in the feedback app that is available in the windows os?, atleast thats the only thing i found

maybe microsoft doesnt care about opengl, they have directx

yeah, but in 2020?

searching anything intel related is a pain in the ass i see

i just know that nextcloud had issues with the same intel GPUs we had trouble with

@Moderator 165.227.139.80:8309 mithrandir doing it as always

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hi, where can i ask to delete my time from a certain map?

17:55

i doubt there's bot command to do so

deen?

dang i just noticed there are more chats should have put it in questions

@murpi i saw you typing and wanted to give you the chance to finish

I actually stopped typing after I saw you typing lmao

but anyway: We don't delete times from maps. Why would you want that?

cuz I didnt finish that

But we don't have accounts, so it's expected

well it's expected for all maps under brutal and so on, and i never had a problem with that... but well im not sure how to phrase it

We could move the rank to another name I guess, but it's manual work

nah, then dont bother

we cant do it

17:59

way too much effort to verify

18:00

and way too many ranks

18:00

we dont even know if u are real

should have gotten name without UTF-8 charset, this way I could have avoided that i guess, tho thanks for answer guess i gotta beat it on my own one day

18:01

@jao actually im a cat typing for a dead person

Accounts one day

gotta keep the body in refrigerator, so the gov money comes in

18:01

@Learath2 they could only implement that after wiping entire database clean

Accounts one day

@Learath2

Kappa

Kappa

God I wish they would let me do a wipe

just make sure to get rid of any possible backups

Even with all the benefits of accounts I have not yet convinced a single person that a wipe is acceptable

We can just make accounts for future ranks and allow multiple people to have same nick name, similar to Discord's number after the name

dont do wipe

18:03

its history

i want to be jao#1

ddnet 2.0 when

the brazil can be jao#2

coughs history belongs to museum

i want to be Learath#2

I think I got one person to agree to a “legacy ranks” sort of solution during one of those 5 hour accounts debates

not konsti

Obviously not konsti, the guy would play with the old ddrace client if it was still working

i rly dont want to lose my progress, reminds me of good old times

@murpi since we're at ddnet 15.1 already, call it ddnet 2000 instead

damn 15.1 that's kinda far like 6 updates

well we are 15 cuz we jump really easy

An account system would be great, force it on us and ignore the vocal minority. poggers

poggers

ye minority

@Nice🌙 there is RUS2 - BLOCKER too

@Skeith I don’t have the time to host a propaganda campaign for it and not everyone against one argues with bad arguments. It would take quite some time to get enough people on my side to do such a thing (edited)

But making an account system like in Discord would have no real complaints I think

We can just make accounts for future ranks and allow multiple people to have same nick name, similar to Discord's number after the name

why not just like this?

@Learath2 are U an Austrian by chance?

i did it like this on fng save server too

Auto-assign a new account when someone joins the game. People who don't like accounts can just create a new one every time they play

@deen it would kinda be of no use. Old ranks would need to be archived somehow for it to have any meaning

but then you need to transfer the old names to new accounts

We had this discussion for years. Imagine if we did this 4 years ago, then most players today would have most of their gameplay under their account

18:09

Extrapolate to the future. Doing it now would also be good seen from 4 years in the future

@Overlord no justatest

justatest

assuming this will live long

18:10

monkalaugh

18:10

i remember when deen wanted to close this

if its integrated into the client

@Learath2 for me legacy ranks would do the job tbh

Dw I’ll be here for a long time

just keep legacy points on old names with no account

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18:11

and reset

18:11

justatest

reset everything? (edited)

tbh it wouldnt even need a reset

18:12

just keep as it is

18:12

but add accounts

18:12

people can still play as they do now

18:12

obviously if u want to start stacking points on ur account its like if it was reset

yes

but u dont lose anything per se

Actually that’s a great idea I haven’t thought about

u just start collecting points on ur account

add accounts is a terrible idea, can you imagine how many people would steal names and then the original player couldn't get their name back O_o

Bragging rights is a great incentive to make people use accounts

i dont want to finish some maps again

18:13

painful days

@Blade just allow same name

@Blade We'd do it like Discord, where it wouldn't matter

how did kog do it

u have a unique account name and a "nickname" that can be changed for ingame stuff

And we can even do moderated servers after we have enough people with accounts

But explain if someone made an account called Aoe, then Aoe could never use his name again?

u can name urself aoe on discord

18:13

yet he can use aoe aswell

Area of effect

and yes accounts would actually allow to moderate such people

18:14

impersonating maliciously

will u implement ur own captcha?

though account would require some sort of registration, because if it simply got unique code per client (like timeoutcode) then #1 people would share that or not who knows #2 new pc/system would require U to somehow know 12 symbols code

xdd

Problem with this kind of naming is that you need to know the number after Aoe to know if it’s the real Aoe

18:14

So it’s really reliant on the friendlist

Do you mean accounts like the KoG system? because every time i join their servers my clan says >>FAKE<< feelsbadman

feelsbadman

@Blade how can we know U're not a dog impersonating a human being?

18:15

~~sincererly cat

Overlord:

18:15

Since when did you get here

since i got banned few times in the past

I have a feeling some trolling is gonna ensue

but most relevant people have an account where we know its them for real. like if i write a admin on discord someone stole my name then i just get it back or what

18:17

which player in the top500 doesnt have either a forum or discord account

Imagine all the extra work the admins will get greenthing

greenthing

There is no name stealing with the proposed system

18:17

You can both use the same name

he means that being popular is equal to having an account

then whats the account for xd

Only one of you will have the points

lol

ok dont add it

Yeah see. It always ends up like this :D

inb4 ddnet wants our emails and birthdays

I hate this godforsaken feature so much

and pronouns

18:19

im a zie

even if it had no immediate purpose

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(which is not the case)

18:19

its always better to have names and points tied to an account

18:19

rather than in the wild

tbh i dont think so. has faking ever been a real problem?

It feels like you are developing some nerve agent for hitler in ww2 whenever you work on it

its not about faking at all

People despise you :P

its about being able to ban u

18:20

no more free speech

18:20

BASED

I actually had a fight with a guy who was using my name

18:20

he rekt me in a 1v1 so he is now the real blade feelsbadman

feelsbadman

Blade Jr

cuz u pick a rly common name

18:20

look sen pa'

18:20

no one fakes him

they can already nameban

@Ryozuki look no one fakes u vvCrayonPeek

vvCrayonPeek

GWjiangLoveHeart

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but how do you know if this is the real sen pa' @Ryozuki justatest

justatest

How about a verified checkmark for special snowflakes that can't share their name?

if nameban works as i think it's not good thing at all, just look how many letter combinations there are cough "Scat GoreHentai" 8 points

what

that if U nameban for example somone named "a" nobody can use that anymore

18:22

unless nameban works like config ban

We can give people that we know for certain who they are a sign, like youtube, twitter, instagram all do

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pornhub too

yeee

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^

I think it's silly but it might be what's needed to make this proposal politically acceptable

do i know i exist myself?

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i will consult to plato

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if my existance is real

Philosophers "tell me why"

You better consult Descartes instead

also i saw that on newer ddnet versions U implemented colours for mods, could have done same thing for these verified people

bring back rainbow colour tees

18:25

good times

make soloservers not lagg

We should add admin rooms where we can get powerups

@Overlord why u say U

u

@Ryozuki in the past out of respect, now out of habit

@Im 'corneum antiping should make it perfect, any issues you can report

respect?

lmao wat

it looks more like passive agressive

xdd

xdd

XD

U are to blame

yea to the speaker, welp it's up to U how YOU interpret it

On solo servers with antiping you should never experience any lag

u rly trhink antiping makes solo perfect?

ps the second one was agressive

oh my god

Should being the operative word here

@Im 'corneum it makes it perfect if your internet connection is consistent

on LAN servers U should never experience lags, they're equally as good

yeah it isnt

I have tried playing on CHN and there it's horrible with packet loss, packets getting swapped etc

Ah, yes packet loss and unordered delivery really does mess it up

any way to fix that please?

packet loss messes everything up doesnt it

but honsetly I don't consider solo a priority for DDNet, it's mostly about cooperative multiplayer. and any way to play locally would allow cheating

@deen perhaps you should contact amazon support if your packets are getting swapped

Well can't predict the unpredictable

huh? i have played on china multiple times, recently even nearly finishing baby aim, and my connection is not considered good, U sure anti ping on version 9.1 is not superior to 15.1?

deen doesnt care about solo people

18:27

solo life matter

@deen teehistorian could allow it

it really depends, sometimes I have a stable connection to CHN, sometimes 20% packet loss

But ofc teehistorian won't stop people that TAS :d

@deen a question that i wanted to raise in a long time, why are chinese servers censored ('fuck' 'shit')

@Learath2 yeah, but then someone can just copy the teehistorian file and someone else can submit it

so chinese overlords dont ban the server

take pikachu_1 back

so lags are your only real anticheat

18:28

well done

@Overlord required by law there apparently. we don't host the servers ourselves and I don't want to risk getting the Chinese guys who host the servers into trouble

18:30

@Im 'corneum some games allow the client to just determine the physics locally. but those are trivially cheatable

understandable, it's not like they speak english there either way aside from few people

@Overlord gotta keep the organs in their respective bodies justatest

justatest

Besides, I am not really sure of what is allowed/acceptable in china. It's really hard for us to judge from thousands of kilometers away

justatest

@Ryozuki now all of china knows U're here

U

UwU

18:31

350$ penalty

weird

@deen and there is no way to secure that only ddnet clients could use this feature?

no

i just wann aplay some tw again goddamnit

Then do it

u dont have fiber yet?

i dont think they take my demos and put the rank in

18:32

nah

germany 1st world country btw

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We could probably make it very difficult for our usual botter crowd but a sufficiently advanced attacker can always bypass these

btw. as im one of those who support account propaganda, if I for example wanted to change my name, so people wont finish maps for me(etc.) is that even if I have required points I can't because it would require me to notify everyone i know manually to say "hi this is my new name please re add me to this already small and crippled circle of friends"...

a countrly crippled by burocracy

lol

18:33

spain same

18:33

but we all got fiber

You don't want to undermine bureucracy. If it goes too fast you get people abusing the system

81% of the Spanish population has Internet coverage at more than 100 Mbps

18:34

lmao

18:34

the only good thing about spain

im that 19 %

18:34

T_T

U guys get internet?

Internet should be considered an essential utility and supplied by the government

18:36

Private companies have no incentive to supply internet to small villages

please not yet, I dont want skynet to come this soon

we should have millions of satellites on orbit and internet should be available worldwide

Subsidies only make them deploy 56k dialup and say they invested

thats my vision of future

my vision of the future is that i can actually try out some of the games i have on steam lmao

@Ryozuki well Elon and his questionable ethics is already on this project

xd

@Moderator GER1 Novice Kobra Player: Bulbasour finished map and is now ruining for other people with rocket launcher

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all systems connected to internet should be considered vulnerable, also it wouldnt be first time satelite got hacked

banks are also on the internet

both banks, and atms do have security issues

bulbasour massive noob how can he block?xd

You don't connect everything to the internet lmao

shooting down people while hooking to the roof @Blade

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even a noob can do that

ah yes

18:38

beautiful

i doubt u connect the satellite control to the public internet

18:38

or smth like that

ha he got banned

18:38

so satisfying

maybe they have a private intranet

thank you so much @deen

encrypted

18:39

the problem is people

18:39

they always leak

I don't even think that kind of control is exposed over a vpn. Usually that kind of critical infrastructure is intranet only

they can encyript all they want but i got a light up keyboard and vendetta mask.

@Learath2 as somone who spent my entire life, trying to avoid putting how do i say it... "delicate information" on the internet, i was required by law multiple times to allow gov. companies ( like i call them ) to use all that

You need to be physically at a satellite control station to control the satellite (edited)

this makes me want to watch mr robot again

18:39

hackerman

18:39

aPES_Hacker

well as we can learn from the past examples, even intranets are not safe if U're exploiting human stupidity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSuAgw8Lc1Y @Ryozuki

Internet Historian

Greentext Short: OP is the world's greatest hacker.

@Learath2 is it ilegal to have ur own company with astronauts and go there? i dont think space is owned by anyone right now

18:40

the moon is free real estate too

I think all the major govts signed some treaty about space

we could literally move the moon

it's not so easy to get out of earth, on top of our immediate space being filled by space debris. Tho they're creating companies to clean it up

nasa already moves asteroids

18:41

xddd

And to launch from anywhere you need permission from the local govt

ddnet moon

fly to the moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3y8AIEX_dU best youtube channel

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

How to Move the Sun: Stellar Engines

launch from arctica, problem solved

18:42

launch from non territorial waters

Or don't tell anyone and just launch from your house

yeah

18:42

once u are in space

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no laws

After you get to space I think you are legally safe

gho to a asteroid

18:43

and make ur bar

Tho they might shoot you down

with ur laws

18:43

lmao

Or just get a piece of land (prefferably island) call for independence, buy astounding amounts of sand, thus having more space, in time people will flock in and U will have a country, and thus can launch into space

i love how this went from accounts to space laws

isn't it same thing?

monkalaugh

@Overlord countries don't let these micro nations exist

a country to exist needs to be recognized by others

An italian guy tried once and the italian navy invaded it within a week

singapore does exist tho and it's no longer so small i think they "grew" 30% of new land

So let's launch a micro satellite with DDNet-Server running on it

poggers

also i think for many years, that oil extraction platform was considered a country

There is one near the UK tho that the royal navy is leaving alone. An old oil rig

yea that one

Micronation of sealand

Lets go

just infiltrate some goverment or private company, work with them on satelites, integrate ddnet servers into it, and thus once something's already up there nobody will bother touching it

so i can pull an epstein loli island if i make the island my own country? epic

whats the point of having ddnet-server in a satellite (edited)

@deen connecting to ddnet with a satellite dish :P

so i can pull an epstein loli island if i make the island my own country? epic

@Im 'corneum didnt he make his own island

Every planet needs a ddnet server think about the aliens who would play

ah

@Ryozuki so U can connect to it forever, on that one international server, but only during certain hours Ur ping will be viable

xd

I don't think you can put microsatellites in a stationary orbit

Stonks

geostationary

18:47

https://spacenews.com/geo-smallsats-emerging-as-a-best-of-both-worlds-approach/

GEO smallsats emerging as a best-of-both-worlds approach - SpaceNews

When Swedish broadband service provider Ovzon began shopping around for a small communications satellite that would work in geostationary orbit, the designs that satellite manufacturers trotted out weren’t exactly “small.”

@deen why not?

adjusts tinfoil just do what bill gates does, and microchip everyone with their own ddnet server (edited)

oh well, maybe just the ones I looked at

europe is working on it https://www.esa.int/Applications/Telecommunications_Integrated_Applications/Small_Geostationary_Satellite_SGEO

Small Geostationary Satellite (SGEO)

SmallGEO is a telecommunications satellite platform capable of accommodating a wide range of commercial payloads and missions, from TV broadcasting to multimedia applications, internet access and mobile or fixed services in a wide range of frequency bands.

yeah just put tune_zone 1 gravity 0 until its at the right spot

europe is working secretly on time machines, and i got this info from verified source

18:48

they will be going... back in time

i think having a time machine is a paradox itself

dr who good series btw

18:48

must watch

Time machine is a paradox btw

btw

As long as you can only go to the future, time machines don't really break rules :P

depends on how we percieve the world, because if every action/choice is it's standalone world and it's all forever changing then that would simply change again

ok lets hear the shit yall heard in some yt videos

if only i could go ... back in time 2... to tell my mother to not sit me on that chair so i would drop 20 times in a row and have this brain damage now

Going backwards can be ill defined depending on the nature of time which we don't really understand

As for backward time travel, it is possible to find solutions in general relativity that allow for it, such as a rotating black hole.

18:50

apparently going forward in time is way harder

It's trivial to go to the future

Forward time travel, outside the usual sense of the perception of time, is an extensively observed phenomenon and well-understood within the framework of special relativity and general relativity. However, making one body advance or delay more than a few milliseconds compared to another body is not feasible with current technology.

(edited)

actually there's time machine to travel to the future, and that's freezing oneself

As long as you only consider your own perspective :P

well then sleeping is time travel

isnt it?

Just need to freeze yourself or knock yourself out with propofol

is deep sleep feasible?

18:51

i think u age regardless

18:52

or cold sleep

if i go to sleep at 22 and wake up at 10, not only i have no memories, i couldnt interact with world either so that's some sort of time travel

whathever the name

If you actually want to disappear for everyone else, yeah it's a tad complicated

18:52

@Ryozuki well cold enough and no interactions happen between atoms

18:53

Too cold and you become some odd goo, so don't go too far

i dont think we can achieve 0 kelvin

i think fallet is actually trying to preserve himself by becomming mostly alcohol to travel into the future

or can we

can we even observe absoulte zero temperature?

Well it'd require all atoms to be completely still. Which I doubt is possible at all

only if u want to travel infinitly

They did however go veeery close in some experiment using lasers to cancel out the movement of a bunch of atoms, very interesting stuff

also if we traveled into the future, we would also have to equip our time machine with teleportation machine, because everything's moving forward, and if we jump too far we will be left in the void

The bunch all melded into a weird hyperatom

The average temperature of the universe today is approximately 2.73 kelvins (−270.42 °C; −454.76 °F), based on measurements of cosmic microwave background radiation.

18:55

poggers

cosmic microwave... so we're all being heated adjusts more tinfoil

The current world record was set in 1999 at 100 picokelvins (pK), or 0.0000000001 of a kelvin, by cooling the nuclear spins in a piece of rhodium metal.

18:56

thats quite the record

Whats is this

We are talking about ddnet, no worries

they unconsiously write my physics theorem that im turning in next tuesday

yes

then again, why are we?

any actions taken by a time traveler or by an object that travels back in time were part of history all along, and therefore it is impossible for the time traveler to "change" history in any way.

18:58

BASED

just read hpmor

18:59

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Methods_of_Rationality

Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality

Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality (HPMOR) is a Harry Potter fan fiction by Eliezer Yudkowsky. It adapts the story of Harry Potter by attempting to explain wizardry through the scientific method. It was published as a serial from 28 February 2010 through to 14 March 2...

http://www.hpmor.com/

Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality

Petunia married a professor, and Harry grew up reading science and science fiction.

and its semisequel, significant digits

ill read it

then again, if U move to the past with a time machine, do U effectively erase Urself from the present?

several people are typing

There are many ways to define time travel, not all of which are allowed by physics as we understand it. But fiction explores a whoole lot of them

maybe not as related but i also like a lot https://www.multivax.com/last_question.html

The Last Question -- Isaac Asimov

Isaac Asimov's Last Question

I love that story by asimov

ye

I'll read it, thank

let there be light

@Learath2 tho physics are incomplete as of yet, so there's still hope in my lifetime to achieve.... cat girls

@Rocket elon said he is working on it, fingers crossed

that's Asimov "foundation" book?

Omg fake overlord

inb4 ÓverŁórd

lmao

19:01

@Learath2 see ur accounts would make this too

19:01

kek

19:01

ragouis

I'm okay with single name per account if you are okay with your names getting sniped by Konsti

make accounts only for people who donate, 5$ per acount get 5k$ from Konsti, delete accounts

19:03

should have been a lawyer ehhh

INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER aPES3_HyperReee

aPES3_HyperReee

Konsti seems to have a lot of capital, he would probably snatch the top100 players easily

19:04

PoW for an account. You need to spend a day to create one. That would slow him down

i dont think he has especially much money. i think hes dumb enough to spend it on ddnet

nah

19:04

u dont simply donate 500€

@Learath2 20 ip 20 pcs

I bet he is the son of a saudi oil baron or sth

you know konsti isnt the sanest person

19:05

i could donate couple of thousand €. but i wont bcs im not fucking crazy

The easiest solution is one phone number one account

no thank you

Or even better one national id number one account

ah, we're in /s territory already

please send a dna sample

i would if its in the form of fecies

Well it wasn't /s. I am very convinced the only way people behave on the internet is asking for an id number

there is ppl who actually sent dna samples

Anonymity brings out the worst in people

@Learath2 Really? Konsti is using his real name

people spew racist stuff from their facebook accounts with real names

racism isnt the worst in people

@heinrich5991 because there are no consequences. We could have a one strike policy

19:07

You can always create a new facebook it doesn't require a phone number or a form of unique identifier

SPOILER

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justatest

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hm. interesting. I wouldn't call it the anonymity that is the problem, pseudonymity with fixed identities would be fine, too, no?

Oh yeah I don't care whether you show your real name or not

19:09

Any given fake id must be somehow tied to a real person if you want to enforce anything

19:09

Even if I don't as the service provider get to know the real person

well, a service-specific identifier by a government would suffice

19:09

yep

19:09

still, no from me

i would never give a game my id

19:09

xd

@Ryozuki not yet*

Sadge

Ofc, no one would. It's still the only way to enforce any action on anyone

19:10

Cheaters run rampant in every game because you don't stand to lose anything

btw phone numbers wouldnt work either, as there are multiple services providing free fake number to recieve a text msg with code and so on, they change the numbers every 1-2 months

Do steroids in the olympics and you risk never competing again. Use an engine in a chess tournament and you never play in a FICS match again

but you could say it's not a solution if the honest people won't join

learath wants to make 1984 real

19:11

justatest

19:11

just so ppl dont cheat in a game

@Ryozuki it's already real?

in great britain it is

little did U know, but they take all logs from chat, then inspect it through AI to profile U

19:12

they probably know more about U than U do Urself

time to use an end-to-end-encrypted messenger, which discord isn't

@Overlord well the idea with phone numbers is to make it harder for the layperson. There are ways to identify these fake numbers too. So it's not very easy for the crafty either

U

why do yoU capitalize yoUr Us

@louis out of spite

@Ryozuki a one time govt generated token doesn't breach privacy at all

little did U know, but they take all logs from chat, then inspect it through AI to profile U

@Overlord u can still yet prevent that

19:13

u can also fake ur persona

19:13

there is a addon that clicks on ads while blocking them

19:13

it builds a fake profile

19:13

messes with their data too

19:13

https://adnauseam.io/

AdNauseam - Clicking Ads So You Don't Have To

A browser extension that clicks on every blocked ad to fight advertising surveillance.

Discord is probably making bank from all the metadata their maybe millions of users give them

well it's obvious we're all the product

its sad we cant switch to a more privacy oriented discord-like app

19:15

cuz the masses use this

19:15

companies always win

Anyway requiring a unique id is hardly creating 1984 imho. The only thing I'd ever be worried about is giving governments an easy way to force companies to breach privacy

07sucks

06good

well we can

19:15

993893a5e1521e517b0629f7cd6563c5e947cbe69779f4f0e0d7551492680cdc

19:15

it's in sha256

dood

read the msg and from there we go deeper

ill run a server with 4k gpus and get ur id

19:16

if i know where ur from

19:16

i can narrow it down more

@Ryozuki I wouldn't be surprised if govts would pay billions to keep discord popular. There is no way you compete with that kind of money

well how do U know facebook got popular when lots of sites looked and worked same back then?

19:16

ever heard about hitbox tv?

19:16

it's all money and lobbying

Especially since the average member of the public doesn't give two shits if google collects information about them

why would they? it's like in matrix, if they collect information Ur life is easier, and thus U're supposedly happier

No public to support your privacy oriented chat app, no companies to support it, no govt to support it. There is no way you win, it's rigged

not everyones a pedo like you learath

now imagine trying to take care of Ur metadata, get new atleast software MAC adresses every time U visit a site and so on

@Im 'corneum see that's defamation

signal is doing fine. whatsapp is e2e-encrypted

19:19

I use signal with real people

well depending where the app is being developed if it's using encryption gov agencies cant breach, then U as a creator are being targeted, to make a backdoor for it

https://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/ BASED

BASED

r/StallmanWasRight

it also already happend in the merican history in the past

Whatsapp is e2e encrypted because facebook is somewhy taking a stance. They probably didn't get a large enough bribe or threat.

@heinrich5991 now make people use signal, och they wont of convenience, and if too many people move to it, it wont be safe anymore

Also facebook already having a net worth larger than some countries helps give them some leverage

@Overlord I communicate fine via signal, whatsapp. I steer most of my communication away from telegram, it's working for me

I use whatsapp with friends because whatsapp is what's popular in turkey

well guess im the safest one here, as i dont communicate...

"Youtube will start to demand ID / credit cards information from European users."

I honestly would have to become an outcast if messenger was what was commonplace in turkey

justatest

as i dont have anyone to communicate with

19:21

@Ryozuki switch to duckduckgo, and watch it in their browser if that happens

19:21

the only thing U lose is comment section

i know my ways

19:21

BASED

@Ryozuki enslaving people, taking their IDs and registering with it?

yes

damn im proud

Someone had a really nice website that anonymizes youtube with clientside js. Though without the algorithm fingerprinting me, I find it hard to browse youtube (edited)

bro just browse in incognito mode. whats the problem

@Learath2 thing is popular masses dont want privacy at all, remember how people before 90s constantly said stuff like "i cant say it via phone" and were called crazy and so on?

bro just read books who needs too browse (edited)

@Learath2 then for example snowden in america exposed it all to light that indeed they're all being spied upon by their own gov. but people wouldnt care less

@Overlord i wasnt born in the 90 monkalaugh

monkalaugh

Well I'm not old enough to know about the 90s either :D

@Ryozuki me niether, but im time traveller

Ah

poggers

Snowden is a traitor bro. Get ur facts straight

@Learath2 then for example snowden in america exposed it all to light that indeed they're all being spied upon by their own gov. but people wouldnt care less

@Overlord worst, americans support jailing snowden and also assange

19:24

the joke

19:24

feelsbadman

i just needed theoretical knowledge to fix my time machine, after polish punks destroyed it, because "U PARK UNDER MY POST SOVIET BLOCK?"

@noby team snowden or team murica

team noby

whatd snowden do again

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19:25

weebs out

didnt he expose the cia or something

nsa

poggers

U should ask what he didn't do and he didnt serve his country properly

louis mod :o

He sold american secrets to putin ofc

justatest

i have snowden book

19:26

but i didnt read it yet

19:26

monkalaugh

how do U know it wasn't censored already?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Record_(autobiography)

Permanent Record (autobiography)

Permanent Record is a 2019 autobiography by Edward Snowden, whose revelations sparked a global debate about surveillance. It was published on September 17, 2019 (Constitution Day), by Metropolitan Books, an imprint of Henry Holt and Company. The book describes Snowden's childh...

19:26

this one

I read a large part of the leaked stuff. The NSAs capabilities were really far beyond what I'd imagined

that's my problem with universities how do U know they teach U properly on med uni and dont just push false information for medicine companies?

justatest

snwoden kinda gives me deen irl vibes

yeah

19:27

he looks like deen

19:27

or deen looks like him

Or they are the same

@Moderator neutron 194.67.208.6:8327

1

its all comming together now

Jk

Inb4 deen is snowdens new id

19:27

inb4 deen left the server

nice U'all have exposed him on such a vulnerable platform clap clap

19:28

shame on U people

U

U

is that aggressive one? (edited)

its always aggressive

Barack Obama, Welcome to DDraceNetwork's Discord! Please make sure to read #welcome. Have a great time here happy

happy

troll

19:29

gg

19:29

end of convo

19:29

signed

19:29

ryozuki

yea and i forgot my question that i wanted to put somewhere, guess it was meant to never be answered

Yeah enough of this off-topic talk here. I need to go make food before I starve

imagine joining this dc and seeing ppl discuss time travel, cold zero temperatures and then surveilance

19:30

BASED

if i saw that on another discord i would post some anti rewddit science cringe vojak memes

я руский

We smart people, Ryo

Омг

well, I found solution to my inital problem: #1 gain trust, become an admin, delete 'my' time #2 hack an admin or database, and delete that time

@Overlord have u heard the konsti way

U mean buy people out?

have a friend host and sponsor a server for ddnet

sorry but with the currency we earn in my country it would take me years to bribe a bus driver

@Overlord where u from?

where punks from post soviet blocks destroy time machines aka Troland (edited)

Huh, isn't the polish zloty fixed to the value of the euro?

I from Kazahstan (Kz)

Yeah apparently not, interesting

trollet

lmao it's falling more than ever

19:35

soon 1€ will equal 1 slave (edited)

thats a cheap slave. nice

well we adhere by old slavery contracts, so U gotta provide food, shelter and all else

1€ == 9.56 turkish liras. Just a couple months ago it was 6sth. So I know a thing or two about fucked economies

19:37

Oh it's 9.82 today, it's almost as volatile as bitcoin

ach bonjour, how's dictatorship? We're heading same way

So glad I'm from a stable country with an islamic dictator at the steering wheel.

Oh my god

tbh atleast U have carpets on walls

19:39

meanwhile i have mold

19:39

feelsbadman

To hide the mold

but again, if U're somehow earning money remotely in dolans, then U're top10% of Ur country with USA's lowest salary

19:40

if only i could be successful hentai artist ehh

I'm living in Italy for now, so if I start working as a starbucks barista, I would be in the top10% back in turkey

but U have cost of living like an italian, so it doesnt work

19:41

U have to live in Ur 17th world country and earn currency of 2nd one

Well even with the cost of living here I can save money, which would be worth a fortune when I get back

19:42

Tho I don't intend to ever go back. Who would want to go back to a failing economy under a dictator?

Im cooming kyle

justatest

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lol are those weekends

That looks fairly stable actually

fridays and saturdays

@Learath2 as somone who thinks about moving out every now and then, how did U settle for a specific country, because the more i dig in, into any of them, they're all bad in the end

@Learath2 do u have italian id card?

19:46

here u have to wait 10-15 years

19:46

to get one

19:46

u get a temporary id card tho

@Overlord I didn't choose yet where I want to live. I'm studying in italy for now. I'd probably prefer to live a bit more to the north. Netherlands maybe

north is the best

not a good choice if you don't like drowning

19:47

i like cold

19:47

summers here are hell

@heinrich5991 live short, before the geo depression gets U

U

Ü

i was just looking up a old classmate on stea and i saw he has 7.1 hours on ddnet the last 2 days that such a weird feeling idk if im gonna contanct hima bout it

they use that as a smiley on the german subreddit

19:48

yo. you played this game. did you know I have over 10000 hours in this game?

i make my irl friends play ddnet feelsamazingman

feelsamazingman

xd

0.6 one love

i make my irl friends in my head

@Learath2 just saying netherlands as a place to live . Hmmm why is that XD

justatest

10k hours only?

sounds weird should have rephrased that

@Ryozuki I could get an italian id if I wanted but it's just soooo much hassle

netherlands beat belgium and germany by a large margin

@murpi you sheep?

isme

2

In what do they beat belgium and germany ?

but that's probably only if U're native (atleast that's the feeling i have got)

19:49

in quality of life

i think quality of life depends on yourself really . the more money you earn for less work is the better quality of life

belgium looks like umm how do U say it, shithole, meanwhile germany is hard to judge as whole, because compared to size of netherlands it should be judged by region like koln/bavaria

i would go to Estonia i guess

@Ama their perfect english, beautiful cities and decently nice population (atleast for a northern country) is what draws me to the netherlands

https://e-resident.gov.ee/

What is e-Residency | How to Start an EU Company Online

E-Residency, powered by the Republic of Estonia, enables entrepreneurs to start a trusted location-independent EU company online.

yes, U can communicate in english at most places, and it's way cleaner than belgium (DAMN U BELGIUM)

they are modernized

@Learath2 so its not the hookers and drugs ?

But netherlands never won a wc

e-modernized

19:51

https://e-estonia.com/solutions/e-identity/e-residency/

19:52

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overlord i dont like bavaria

Well it's nice that the country provides people freedom. But I don't really need either in my life

most annoying place in germany

@Learath2 im joking i know that in italy its quite easy to get drugs

19:52

@Learath2 as i always get offered drugs when im on vacation in italy

@Learath2 regulated drugs and prostitution simply bring more money to the state

@Ama https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/oct/11/spain-becomes-cannabis-hub-as-criminals-fill-tourism-void

Spain becomes cannabis hub as criminals fill tourism void

With high profit margins and low risk of long jail time, the Spanish region is now the marijuana capital of Europe, police warn

19:53

BASED

here where i live, i can choose between 5 hookers just 1km away from my home, probably same with drugs

here cheap weed

thing is hookers get untaxed money, while they get healthcare and so on, from unemployment

It's odd, they always offer drugs to people that aren't looking for them. Italians are bad salespeople

Lol

i mean weed is cheap everywhere when you get it from the source and not thru 20 middleman

BASED

true businesman ama

like you

PES4_BusinessMan

weed pyramid scheme

@Ryozuki but i would probably go to barcelona and join a smokers club for 20 euro XD

XD

tho as many times i have been to netherlands i never went for weed, it's better to spend 30€ for all U can eat restaurant

who need fre| e hac|ks

19:55

trollet

Oh I also had some of the best food I ever had in netherlands, only rivaled by japan

30euro if you can go 9euro chinese wok

if you read this you are a nobo

@Learath2 are U son of some turkish dictator, where U get all that money from for travelling

I love my food, so countries with bad food are just a no go

you lox

@Overlord I deal hardcore drugs

Learath Erdogan justatest

justatest

there is a catalan restaurant i love here

och so U're constantly on a trip @Learath2

BASED

nigga can travel even in corona times

i mean if you fly for cheap its not expensive to fly everywhere

19:57

i mean in europe you can fly for 1 euro to mallorca

@Overlord who gave u the n pass

19:57

justatest

Flying inside europe is dirt cheap

@Ryozuki always had, but if im to point out, then egyptians

i mean in europe you can fly for 1 euro to mallorca

@Ama i think thats only for germans

19:57

germans invaded mallorca

19:58

its insane

@Ryozuki also some N**** still owes me money here in Troland

20-25€ flights to london from italy

i mean you can pay 10 euros for any flight in europe

I would honestly go to london for a bowl of ramen, that's how cheap it can get sometimes

yea? and where can i find cheaper places than the one im already in? lithuania? Ukraine?

20€

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19:58

lmao

19:58

thats true

no matter where I travel its gonna be expensive

but its cuz coronavirus

Cheaper living is tough

19:59

Eastern europe is really as cheap as it gets

i mean wizzair standard price is 10 euro

Atleast if you want to stay in/close to europe

19:59

Otherwise, head to india

fuck india they shit in the streets

yeah

i would rather live in some other asian country than india, like vietnam, philiphines, thailand

also covid hits rly hard india

somewhere dirt cheap

Don't be racist, india has great food I hear

20:00

I want to go before it all burns down in a civil war

I have aimbot in real life

yea, no. if U live in a country with population over 1.3B then U're gonna have bad time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBFbQsCeO_w @Learath2

śāradā prasād cs

Timelapse of open defecation along Mumbai local train tracks

one guy shits on streets, everyone loses their mind

20:01

atleast he didnt ask for bob and vagene

its not 1 guy

1 community*

its a timelapse of people going to shit there

believe it or not im pretty sure even in "civilized" countries people without home shit on street

Other asian countries suffer from not having any job opportunities

i heard a story where a toilet was installed somewhere in india and the people used it as a shrine lmao

@Ama then it's regarded as open air toilet

Or having very highly skilled worker requirements

we used to have toilet outside home for ages

20:03

@Learath2 japan's logic: To work here U need to have high qualifications... Omg he has high qualifications i feel threatened let's not employ him

since i live never had to face that but its still normal in poland to have a hole in the ground XD

@Ama my father who's just in his 50's had to use toilet outside for many years

20:03

also it's not open air obviously

20:03

but it's simply outside like in shrek

i know in poland its also normal to have that but not if you have money XD

I would try my luck in japan but their working hours are just insane. The only way I could live there is if I worked freelance

@Ama choose one: 1. poland 2. money

20:05

@Learath2 basic idea is to live in japan and sell hentai in america

20:05

i mean work remotely*

That would work

20:05

Tho tough luck getting a japanese work visa

@Overlord have a family that is not braindead and you have money in poland

yea that would be my plan but im somewhat scared of japanese law system (police with 99.9% convict rate and so on)

Try another eu country and save yourself some despair :P

@Ama im actually better off in poland, never did i have to worry about electricity, heated water and so on, I also have been lucky enough to travel around europe a bit like denmark, netherlands, czech, belgium and germany but now that im hitting 21 and if i were to get a job then lmao have fun

20:07

@Learath2 switzerland is great, everything's expensive, but everyone ears a lot so it evens out, but then again it's better to be poor in rich country, than poor in poor one

no

I couldn't ever afford to live in switzerland

where are you from @Overlord

@Ama Proland

i would always choose being poor in a poor country than in a rich country

Like even with triple what I spend in italy, switzerland would be out of budget

im also from poland so i know what im talking about XD

I couldn't afford to eat mcdonalds every day in switzerland

@Learath2 mcdonalds is expensive af for a fastfood (just like kfc)

if your family doesnt need you to earn 2000zl a month in shit job to survive

20:10

you can just earn thru the internet with a little knowledge

Inb4 @Ama is the nigerian prince that has been mailing me

i mean even now facebook marketplace is just full with noobs that dont know anything and you can earn huge amout of money from that

there's difference between earning, and doing the job U want to do. I could settle just fine for something like 2400 after taxes.

aliexpress has 3-7 day delivery in europe

20:11

and you can sell lots of stuff with easy profit

20:12

2400 its shit if you live in a city like krakow where 2000zl for a flat is minimum

bro it's not about temporary profit U make selling fake nikes on the street market it's about long term income and stability

20:13

ofc in any country U can get rich to the point of a russina oligarch, even on ukraine

aliexpress products are fake nikes ?

the thing is what U're willing to invest

20:13

so U buy aliexpress prodcuts and sell them on OLX or other kind of wish?

20:13

that's just scamming people in my opinion, being a middle man that adds nothing of value

Well it is a job

wtf so supermarkets are a scam ?

well it's very easy, if they have no competitor and there's no gov. set maximum price on product then yes they can very easily be

Being a middleman is definitely not being a scammer :P You import the product and make it available easier and sooner to the end customer

i live in a place where 4 markets converge so I can actually choose from which one I want to buy my products

I would pay an extra euro or two to get my item in 3 days instead of 3 weeks

@Learath2 I studied bodypillows market, and the middle men add themselfs a large margin ofc it's not a product in demand, and if somone only knows one language, he has no other choice but to buy from middleman

20:16

more like 5-10€ + transportation fees

20:16

ofc im talking about pillows market

I'd probably be okay up to 10% of the product value being a markup

20:16

After that it is kinda scammy

10%???

20:17

wtf

@Learath2 i am talking about dropshipping. so if they find the product and know coupons to use they would get the item cheaper and in 3 days but people dont even know aliexpress has warehouses in europe

now put 2 middle men there and each adds his own 10% also @Ama my aunt, does exactly what U do/say to do

Though, if you are not willing to buy, you can always get it from aliexpress in 3 weeks. Depends on how much your time is worth to you

@Learath2 well after spending time on CHN servers, i learend that aliexpress also adds quite a margin

Dropshipping leads to some of the shittiest products on the market in 2020. It's hardly a scam but the products are absolute garbage

@Learath2 but it was already too late for me but knowing chinese could save me 10-15$ even with shipping to europe

i mean most companys do add a margin or they wouldnt be profitable

bluekitty

@Overlord well the guy who speaks chinese is selling his chinese knowledge to you at 10-15€

@Learath2 im talking about xiaomi redmi earbuds that cost 10euro on aliexpress

20:19

and are absolutly worth the price and in all shops go for 20 euros up to 40 euros

I never really bought one of those chinese earpods, so can't really say anyhing about their quality

sony wh1000xm4 cost 350$ from sony, meanwhile 1599pln if U want to buy it in a shop

20:20

that's 200 pln of profit for shop (transport deducted)

That's probably the govt taxing the import and sale

soon it will be no profit as usd is climbing XD

is usd climbing or pln falling

Oh and the retail shops cost of paying rent/employees

yes, they do, they also have products on site most of the time, but buying physically U void Ur 14 day return guarantee

20:21

also fighting these shops like "media markt" for either repair or return of money is very tedious

ok im off as internet debates never lead to something usefull when 1 party is just trying to find something to say back to you in any shape or form

monkalaugh

my problem is, countries no longer produce things on their own, china is just massive hub for everyone, so since local products are gone so should be local middlemen

@Ama that sums up any internet discussion very well

just implement those accounts already

20:23

been waiting over 6 years

20:23

or actualy 6 years who knows

20:24

and before i go too, it all started with banks no longer having the currency's equivalent in gold

20:24

otherwise 1€ could be as good as 1pln depending on gold reserves

20:26

damn im too bitter :l

https://just.site.com.com.com

20:49

XD

20:49

trollet

Please get rid of red. He is afking in a spot that kills everyone

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@Moderator

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21:36

enjoy it

GWjiangoNoice

poggers

@visitOP beatiful pfp!

21:46

I changed too

21:47

These guys behind me don't need christmas hats

21:47

troll

someone can give me zikkie or lordmilord discord?

@Shyzo

yes

Why was my message deleted?

22:56

It doesn't make sense

why wouldnt it?

Because i tagged zikkie

22:59

And zikkie got a notification anyways (thats how discord works), so removing it, just causes more confusion

just bow Ur head to the overlords and trot along with Ur life, the same way i will do

Ok

Why was my message deleted?

@Animefan karma

@Cristian is my karma balanced now?

yes

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