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Between 2020-10-22 00:00:00Z and 2020-10-23 00:00:00Z
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When checking your profile to find a map to finish next you want to know: 1. How many points you gonna get 2. Time needed to finish 3. Is this map possible with dummy (optional) And the topic one: 4. How hard is this map in reality It is not secret that stars/points quite often lie about the real map's difficulty. I assume that's why you added "finishers" column. But the problem with "finishers" column is that hardest maps, released 10 years ago can be finished 3 times more then ne...
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@louis because I can't reproduce the issue and so I can't fix it
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So probably the stopping doesn't work, only seems to affect Windows or some?
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moved to ! Blazin0001 2020-10-22 06:18:15Z
there is so many egypt people playing teeworlds in the last week soo.. me and my friend want from the devs do server for egypt people (edited)
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@moved to ! Blazin0001 what do you mean by "many"? I thought the same about Turkey, Persian, Costa Rica, Colombia, but those servers are mostly empty now
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moved to ! Blazin0001 2020-10-22 06:19:57Z
imm.. im not know that english well
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i think that im spell wrong
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many is like so ppl
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how is connection from Egypt to Turkey server?
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moved to ! Blazin0001 2020-10-22 06:21:39Z
idk but we in egypt some servers pings are 200 to 350 or high
06:22
but some servers are good too
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@AbdoZX17 tell me lets talk to admin to make egypt servers
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bec, the ping and there are so many ppl playing teeworlds
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and they egyptions
06:23
i think i spelled right
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Are the Egyptian players new players on Steam?
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moved to ! Blazin0001 2020-10-22 06:27:27Z
no
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not all
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there's some ppl new and the other not
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Please try ping to Turkey and check if it's good enough. I honestly don't see so many players from Egypt to warrant a new server
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moved to ! Blazin0001 2020-10-22 06:30:05Z
ok
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thanks for reading
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i will see
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8 new players on Steam in 1 week for example
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@deen updated antibot
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does ddnet fast download also work for vanilla clients?
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does anyone have a fast download implementation in a mod that is not ddnet? because i cant seem to get it to work, for me it always hangs at a specific point if its not the LAN server but a normal server...
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i still dont have it in my mod
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https://github.com/fokkonaut/F-DDrace/commit/218184f0c5d3d97382e04456c21006dacb10df07 this was my latest try, but it didnt work out, hangs relatively fast and is stuck then
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00cc876 Add Savalic to testers - def-
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No need to put it on GitHub to ask for a role @Deleted User
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@Pepe i did nothing 😅
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@fokkonaut ofc, that’s the point of fastdl
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You should add dbg msgs to either side, see why it slows back down
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@louis auto demo on?
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have u checked the demo where the laser thing didnt render?
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if it also didnt render in the demo
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ill have to find it
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the only thing i can imagine is that the server sends some negative gameticks
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nah it shows
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ok
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connected the dummy or smth?
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@Learath2 as i read this code, it only sends some packets ahead, not many at every request, like in 0.7
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is that correct?
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if yes, how can it even work?
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when u shoot too many lasers it hides the players and the HUD XD
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too many entities I guess
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but why does it hide the HUD XD
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i will ubsan it just to be safe
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shows nothing, still strange that the HUD is gone xD
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Yeah, would be good to find out why
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I know that parts of the UI are missing if the snapshot lacks certain netobjs
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(from my custom server impl)
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these probably couldn't get in anymore due to having too many entities
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possible, strange tho that it blocks the FPS rendering
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hm true
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@fokkonaut it employs a trick. The old client requests whatever chunk it receives +1
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So it gets 15 chunks, requests 15, gets 15....
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sometimes antiping is bugged and thinks players didnt touch a collisiion tile when in fact they can
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fix is to turn antiping off and on
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I think this is expected, antiping is basically like the server locally, but some things it can't get updates on
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and it might miss that you touched a tile
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As requested by Cøke !screenshot-20201022@165820

Checklist

  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no phy...
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As far as i can see this was only a problem in demo recorder, which activly seeks snapshots and does Tick() calls during the rendering
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07ca9b7 Killmessages should reset screen - Jupeyy 3a3ab29 Merge #3170 - bors[bot]
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64c7f2b Allow zooming in further in Editor - def- d9f0820 Merge #3169 - bors[bot]
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 15:25:49Z
can we get points for finishing solo parts pls? :)
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also how to configure chat padding?
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3397869 Show option to disable system messages in settings - def- 9832829 Merge #3157 - bors[bot]
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2020-10-22 15:27:03Z
in chat.h
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1081a68 Put CLineReader on stack so we can't forget to delete it - def- c203d78 Free allocated data - def- 2ba4d5d Merge #3136 - bors[bot]
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 15:45:51Z
Everything is in the title. That would be cool I guess, because it's kind of achievement for player. Wouldn't even be spam with 5000 pts rate. More for the topic: there should be so...
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add the discord bot to ddnet so it will be shown here and it will be ez to find a link (edited)
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#3169 should be also about chat, particles, shot effects, shouldn't it?
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As requested by Cøke Checklist Tested the change ingame Provided screenshots if it is a visual change Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options Written a unit test if ...
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#3170 *
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As far as i can see this was only a problem in demo recorder, which activly seeks snapshots and does Tick() calls during the rendering
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how to add discord bot to ddnet
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@jao transfer the repo
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but i wouldnt add that feature
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5k is nothing
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I don't have 5k points yet I think ^^
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you have 5k?
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5k points would be cool
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well u dont play
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like announcements
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or when top10points changes
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kog has that and its cool imo
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kog has 5 players
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ddnet is different
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top10 points doesnt change often id think
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5k points is ez if u play the correct maps
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and 5k is a lot
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ye still takes time
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its not
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:16:47Z
5k is a lot
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u have 7k greenthing if its so easy to get points u should have more by this time
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:17:01Z
it takes a lot of time if it's your new account. If it's not - even more
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someone would need 277 stronghold finishers per day to rack up 5k daily
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i have 7k cuz i dont actively play much anymore
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if i got a partner i would reach 20k ez
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:17:30Z
sure sure
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+ most points in 1 day was 500 wasnt it
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imagine thinking 5k is something
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u need ur mom to tell u did good?
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@Ryozuki hey. stop it
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ok ur annoying to talk to :)
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ah yes
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moderate me mr hidden admin
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I'm discord mod now
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check my roles
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:18:17Z
ban him
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i know
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cuz ur a crybaby
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annoying af
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:18:28Z
ban
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no one likes super politically correct ppl
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:18:54Z
no one likes @Ryozuki ban him
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:18:58Z
oof
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i like ryo
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who r u again?
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:19:03Z
he is my hentai mate
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I can imagine he is a bit frustrated since he lives in the middle of coronacountry
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:19:47Z
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hardest part ngnl
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Chillernobo
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chiller down
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i like ryo and i dont like the 5k points idea
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:20:45Z
so
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I can imagine he is a bit frustrated since he lives in the middle of coronacountry
@n000b if u mean me no, im not frustrated cuz corona lmao
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:21:03Z
2000 points per month is maximum now
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:21:53Z
ay i have 5k points
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$points Ryozuki
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:21:57Z
:party:
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@jao bot abuse
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:22:05Z
$points ChillerDragon
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There is no reason old players can decide if 5k points idea it's good or not, this idea is meant to be for the new players, which are learning and maybe the get some motivation to keep playing
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:22:09Z
omg fix bot
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CONGRATS CHILLER
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:22:12Z
still doesnt work
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YOU MADE IT
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TO 5K POINTS
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what bot abuse
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:22:21Z
ty
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time to spam bot announcements to 5k with names that heinrich will dislike
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lol
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:22:39Z
oof
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imagine wasting ur time for 1 message
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:22:53Z
it took u 3 years to get 5k
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gl
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whats motivating on a one message?
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:23:02Z
bouis
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@louis the most point in 1 day idea and such achievements are great but
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yeah, everyone had 20k points back in 2015
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That maybe you made your goal? It's the same thing as the ddnet birthday player xd
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:23:44Z
i want a congratulations email with images and confetti for finishing Kobra 2
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u can kinda cheese points in 1 day by /save /load
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i made 5k points, time to ditch the game
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@eNJi ur mom is proud
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in the end ppl are just gonna spam finishes with the same name
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to beat it
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it would work with accounts
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10k might work
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cant really spam that
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:24:39Z
oof
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congrats ur reddit post got 5k upvotes poggers
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and its an actual achievement
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:24:57Z
until it isnt anymore
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cuz maps get rlsd
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it still requires a lot time
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:25:21Z
so 5k is nothing and 10k is a lot ?
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quick maffs
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5k msg is stupid, steam achievements would work the best
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achievement unlocked: not using n word as a name
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poggers
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Not everyone use steam xd
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tbh idk why not 5k it still takes time
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new players do
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:26:45Z
u r so smart
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become a dev
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:26:48Z
not everyone collects points
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and you want this for new ppl
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so
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wheres the problem?
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99% of new ppl are not even here
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:27:11Z
true
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cuz there are no new ppl
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so sad
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they are in china
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:27:23Z
the reason why its sarcasm: you'll need accounts, ok?
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:27:40Z
CHINA!
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It's just pointless when there is a topic like this, some agree, some others don't, and we get to nothing
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not like doing this makes "progress"
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this is superifical
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superficial
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:28:36Z
progress?
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im just here to shittlak
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omg typo
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i doubt ppl will grind for 5k on some dumb or racist name just to get the discord message deleted, it takes hours to do that and doubt ppl would waste their time to troll like thaat since there's much more efficient ways of trolling lmao
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2020-10-22 16:28:51Z
learn to write
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:28:54Z
oof
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are we supposed to discuss something relevant to the game on this discord?
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:29:22Z
@louis it takes months
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:29:26Z
"discord"
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:29:32Z
at least weeks for pro players with new acc
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nah u can do it in a few weeks tbh
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:29:48Z
do not forget the minorities u rassist prick @eNJi
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:29:50Z
if you're real pro
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you can do it in few days (edited)
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:29:55Z
and playing every day
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:30:02Z
u fkn white male straight discord user @eNJi
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eh like 2hr/day ez in 3 weeks
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excuse me chiller, im pink
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2020-10-22 16:30:20Z
zie ChillerDragon
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ChillerDragon tell me ur pronouns
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:30:27Z
ur not
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2020-10-22 16:30:28Z
kek
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:30:33Z
im a dragon
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my tee is pink so am i
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:30:49Z
queer dragon
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and im black
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new name?
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:30:57Z
and a woman
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2020-10-22 16:30:58Z
thats not the pronoun syntax
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QueerDragon
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:31:07Z
how does the syntax work?
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2020-10-22 16:31:10Z
its like
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he/him
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:31:25Z
thats so binary
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2020-10-22 16:31:28Z
ye
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its racist against hex
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:31:38Z
nerd
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imagine
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muting me on discord
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for some reason
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:31:48Z
what is happening
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heinrich rly is obsessed
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:31:59Z
@heinrich5991 what do these messages mean?
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the bot disagreess with him lmao
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it means I'm trying to mute Ryozuki
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:32:14Z
oof
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rude heinrich
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dont censor gender speech
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thats not cool in 2020
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he wants to mute me for what
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time to protest
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ur rly obsessed
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get a hobby heinrich
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:32:55Z
#freeryo
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say no to muting and masks
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:33:19Z
ur pfp
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is a fish lmao
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but its offensive to heinrich
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thats why he wants to mute me
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Fishozuki
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without a explanation
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xD
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:33:39Z
Fishozuki lmao
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[quakenet] heinrich5991 BOT 2020-10-22 16:33:49Z
ChillerDragon: I'm muting him for being rude earlier. sorry, took some time ot prepare the muting
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:33:55Z
xd
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[quakenet] heinrich5991 BOT 2020-10-22 16:33:56Z
I thought it was nicer than instant kick/ban
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You really think there is no explanation? Xd
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haha being rude
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mute for being rude?
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we are in kindergarten
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:34:25Z
how can i take away ur abaility to mute because ur mute was rude heinrich5991 ?
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did he call somebody a c word? (edited)
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:34:43Z
oooo the c word
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:34:47Z
finally good mod
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:34:48Z
rq
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:34:53Z
rj
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ty chiller
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almost got insta banned
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@Ryozuki hi
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:35:09Z
snail did 9 / 11
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@Ryozuki
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can u still write
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@snail im on vc
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heinrich doesnt know how to use discord
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:35:38Z
quality mute
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and he got mod
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:35:46Z
he is new mod to be fair
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@eNJi im here
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:35:51Z
so remove the dev role off him (edited)
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dev roles adds nothing
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are u envy?
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hi snail
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hi snail
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:36:23Z
so why u r able to chat
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heinrich is dming me
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:36:25Z
hi snail
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:36:40Z
learn to type u fkin dislexic
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guys if you want a msg for 5k points DM @snail
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:37:01Z
where can i buy 5k points?
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@Ryozuki hi?
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omg
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ddnetshop.tw
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i was trying the role
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sorry.
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I banned Ryozuki for now since he couldn't behave while we were trying to mute
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:37:40Z
oof
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:37:42Z
nub muter
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:37:48Z
@snail open #developer settings, choose "Muted" role and take away right to send messages. Go to other roles and set it to "neutral" (middle setting)
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i banned ryo cuz he wasnt muted when i have him mute role? xD
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:38:06Z
#freeryo
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wtf
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[quakenet] heinrich5991 BOT 2020-10-22 16:38:35Z
ChillerDragon: take mod discussions elsewhere or I'll mute you…
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:38:50Z
oof
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[quakenet] heinrich5991 BOT 2020-10-22 16:38:51Z
it cannot be the case that we can't ban people creating a bad atmosphere
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:38:59Z
do not discuss staff decisions
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@Дядя Женя i aint doing that on every single channel of this discord
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do not discuss atmosphere
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:39:33Z
never doubt admins decisions
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wtf the discord mod role color is too good
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snail look i am streaming
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:40:16Z
btw why did everyone ignore my great feature suggestion of adding points to soloparts?
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:40:36Z
what do you mean?
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:40:50Z
to recivie points for finishing the solo part
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on a map
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like the noob filter
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:40:58Z
lol why?
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why is a discord mod above mods, i feel offended
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:41:03Z
cuz some are hard
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:41:16Z
just don't make these parts hard
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it's supposed to block the noobs
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discord mods being above mods is making bad atmosphere
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Дядя Женя 2020-10-22 16:42:51Z
you should feel guilty for liking Ryozuki#2188
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2020-10-22 16:47:16Z
dont be rude or heinrich will mute u
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ryo is nice
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@gerdoe is the screenmapping there inside the snapshot/tick stuff too? or just inside the render function
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try writing in here
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+ most points in 1 day was 500 wasnt it
@louis who?
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syltoox with bot
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2000 points per month is maximum now
@Дядя Женя cuz nobody tryhards, i remember that milk made over 3k in 1 month 2015...
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what about starkiller
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You could easily do thousands of points in a day, by nearly finishing all maps and then collecting saves and finishing them all in one day
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the client antiping is really sensitive with tunings isnt it, added 2 tunings to my fng server and now the client thinks it has a gun for some reason
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You cant just add tunings
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you are not allowed to send tunings to a client that doesnt have those too
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otherwise client will invalidate the packet on unpacking and just drop it
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that can lead to mispredictions or other tuning failures
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And of course its order dependent
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you should remove discordbot from webhook notifications
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@heinrich5991
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ah, i think I found out how
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arent other repos excluded too?
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like django
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yeah, I deactivated it on the ddnet-discordbot repo now
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@fokkonaut well, then the client shall drop it, but not assume a gun for no reason
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true, no idea about that
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-10-22 17:41:07Z
@heinrich5991 ???? XD unban ryozoozki wtf
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Or ban Konsti as well justatest
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-10-22 17:41:38Z
ban U
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trade konsti for ryozoozki
Utrollet 1
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-10-22 17:42:34Z
Undeserved ban
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He didnt evade mute
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u just didnt get mute work
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Not his fault
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yes trade konsti for ryo greenthing
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ddnet card game when
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+ most points in 1 day was 500 wasnt it
@louis i did 2k points in some hours
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i remember some admin checking the database and it was 500 in 24 hrs
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I noticed players often play with dummy because they can't find a partner quickly. Should we provide a way to pair up players automatically? I'm honestly not sure it's a good idea, but just wanted to throw it out there. Maybe automatically select servers where you have low ping, select difficulty (Novice 3-5 stars) and check if it should be a map you haven't finished yet. Then you'd automatically get paired up with another player looking for a partner, fitting your profile, on a server fit...
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This sounds actually really interesting. I am curious how it is going to be tho. Maybe it sounds better then it works
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matchmaking
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in teeworlds
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clan + name overlap here
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red team 3rd place
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oh it can get worse
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