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@coonrad

01:02

@conrad

hola

td bien?

si

someone help me? My ddrace when nothing starts, it stays on a black screen and closes the game

04:22

I'm from Brazil

son todos putos la re contra de sus madres

puta tu mamá

anda a laburar

help pls

morning

heyo

Congratulations to acqwerty (USA)

Is the new oldschool map actually old ? Kinda confused about a new release on oldschool lol

fix DDnet plw

07:20

Pls

07:23

someone help me? My ddrace when nothing starts, it stays on a black screen and closes the game

@Deleted User @deen @Learath2 seems like some players had the same problem, as me

@☠BlackWolf☠ can you share some information about the system

K

Did an older version work?

Im losing ranks btw

07:23

Ye

07:24

I had no problems with old versions

What version worked?

Like

07:24

Hmm lemme see

You can download versions from ddnet.tw/downloads

I think 14's vrsn

07:25

Idk

I need the exact version sry

Do u want me to download an old version

07:25

?

Also share information about what GPU and what windows version u have

07:26

That would be nice

ok brb

If you test older version

Wich one?

07:28

14.7.1?

That works?

I have to race, wait

Just test it xd

07:28

Np

Seems like its workin no

Did you do some windows updates, maybe they broke it?

Yes

For some reason since like 1 week many ppl have problems.. But not before

I had some w10 updates

Can you still share the name of your GPU, you might find it in the task manager

07:38

07:38

smth like this

this

07:39

look

so also one of the new intels

07:41

well you can install the newest driver here: https://downloadmirror.intel.com/29913/a08/igfx_win10_100.8873.exe

07:42

if you cant install it you need to follow this: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-Yoga-Series-Notebooks/Update-to-Latest-Intel-Graphics-Driver/m-p/4457633?page=1#4457786

Update to Latest Intel Graphics Driver-English Community

07:42

it explains how to update

@Deleted User

07:58

Intel High-Definition (HD) Graphics Driver - Ice Lake

07:58

This one?

@☠BlackWolf☠ what do u mean

thats my laptop

08:07

rn

08:07

c:

@☠BlackWolf☠ just do what the 2nd link said, after you downloaded the first link

08:09

the link you posted doesnt show anything

Click it

08:09

:d

i'd suggest you use the driver form intel

08:09

not from HP

ok c:

08:31

Moments before disaster

@☠BlackWolf☠ got it working? or anything unclear? you can always ask ^^

@Deleted User idk if I install it gud D:

08:42

It says

08:42

Intel(R) UHD Graphics

cant u install anyway, like they describe in: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-Yoga-Series-Notebooks/Update-to-Latest-Intel-Graphics-Driver/m-p/4457633?page=1#4457786

Update to Latest Intel Graphics Driver-English Community

:(

08:43

I did it

08:43

step b step

and it asked you to restart you pc and stuff?

Ye

and still doesnt work?

Ye

08:44

Doesn't change any I think

just to be clear, you downloaded the first link, then did the stuff in the second link it overwrote the current driver and you are now on the new driver?

Ye I did that

08:45

But im nut sure im my pc still running the old driver

08:45

if*

check in the device manager

Intel(R) UHD Graphics

but no numbers?

It is the same?

08:47

no

08:47

No numbers

ye

08:48

this

08:48

look

08:48

27.20.100.8873

yeah that sounds right

08:49

30/9/2020

08:49

D:

that sounds strange, but possible, the intel website says 10/7/2020 xD

imma

08:50

try

08:50

to ddrace

08:50

som

08:50

brb

did u got the black screen fast?

08:51

(with old driver)

No

09:04

It takes hours sometimes

ok, i heard from alot that back in times 2 was broken, but just report back if everything works

thx for testing it^^ (edited)

ok, i heard from alot that back in times 2 was broken, but just report back if everything works

thx for testing it^^

@Deleted User np, im in this map rn

09:10

Where can I get some good weapon skins?

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@Moderator orgy fight multimap ger1

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yo i got a few questions what is a blocker or block map what is blmap/fokkernauts playground how to ninjadash thru the freeze without katana thanks yall i keep joining these maps and idfk what to do

Blocking is the act of preventing someone from playing, usually by throwing them in freeze. Blocker is a person who blocks. Block maps are where you are supposed to block, blocking is not allowed on normal DDNet servers. Report blockers on the discord.

14:50

Blmap is a rather popular block map. fokkonaut's playground is @fokkonaut's server, it has 128 player support and is where he tests out many things. Not quite sure what one does there but I think it has small minigames and stuff

14:51

You cant ninjadash thru freeze without getting frozen whether you have katana(ninja) or not

yes you can go thru freeze tile with ninja

Wait, really? I thought we fixed that like years ago

still works, need to be about 4 blocks away from the freeze (edited)

14:57

https://i.gyazo.com/bb4e2dac6ff9db2fb99647e49fed3771.mp4

there are some maps that have parts involving this

dude are there any servers that are not parkour'

15:08

?

@Aoe what happens if you are not at the correct distance?

15:10

@Xyon4 what are you looking for?

@Xyon4 search for fng

@Learath2 you will be frozen

@Learath2 ninja is kinda above the rules for "not skipping tiles"

@heinrich5991 but it seems to be inconsistent when you get to skip and when not

you get to skip when no intermediate position of the ninja hits the freeze tile

15:18

(that's retelling the current code, not saying what it should be)

Oh that sounds awful

15:20

So we only check for tile collision on specific points on the line, that's why you need to sit kinda 4 blocks away, to get the freeze tile between 2 of these points

yes

@Xyon4 yes there are PvP servers and other minigames, you can see all of them by going to the Internet tab in the Browser and typing in "DDRace" in the exclude bar, like so:

15:41

(This will exclude Block servers which are technically not parkour btw)

tysm

yes you can go thru freeze tile with ninja

@Aoe I thought everyone knew that, I used to do some gores maps where you literally get ninja to go through around 10 tiles or something

@Learath2 tysm

multimap

is there some bots for ddrace>

16:44

like so i could play versus them on lan

old chat is 10x better

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@Smetanolub no. You can ask pros for ghost files

@Smetanolub headshot has an fng ai server

imagine ruining vision with new chat

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It's not distracting, as for me. And takes even less screen space @ano ) (edited)

I had cl_showchat 2 enabled in both obviously, otherwise it's smaller

Is it make chat fully visible ?

yes

Yeah, it looks kinda huge when opened

17:27

From the screenshot, but actually it's not

17:28

I think quite a lot players will change their mind if try it ingame, if they're afraid about that

can you adjust the size yourself?

No

i think it would be better if it was 1 big rectangle for chat

1 big rectangle IS destractive actually

0.7 chat looks good

17:29

play 0.7

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@Moderator please ban george

17:37

Been killing everyone

0.7 chat looks good

@Souly oof chat is so bad in 0.7

18:25

Even I couldn't defend it

whaaaaaaat

18:26

no

18:26

it looks good

18:26

font is much easier to read

18:27

and that chat box is not that terrible

yeh, repeat it during meat-on-meat fng match nobo

well if you have chat box open it is fine

18:46

But the text itself is pretty hard to read on brighter maps

@Smetanolub no. You can ask pros for ghost files

@deen i am pro lol

19:17

i can play versus ghosts?

19:17

how?

i think it would be better if it was 1 big rectangle for chat

I kinda second that

19:49

that could be useful for tables for example

1 rectangle takes the maximum amount of space it can get, which becomes distractive af

19:59

but I'm not sure. Maybe will make some screenshots with 1 rect for you (edited)

yeah it will be transparent and i think the rectangles all being different widths makes it weird

the rectangles all being different widths makes it weird

It makes it take less screen space

20:00

especially for the short (1-3 word) messages

i thint it will be fine because the rectangle is transparent

huge rectangle might be eh

20:05

actually it might be good

wat

20:10

why isnt the All: highlited too

20:10

highlighted

it looks good with the shorter text box

why is the text going out of the box?

'cause I just drawn a rectangle fast somehow with constant XLength (edited)

@Nice🌙 just hook over the tele and let them fall in the speedup

20:14

@Nice🌙 what map?

no u

20:19

heres whaat i was thinking if its just a huge box

20:19

maybe rounded corners too

yes

@louis looks neat

20:20

like this

I'd add some margin at the light-gray area above the input

20:21

the way two areas separate make their margins look visually slimmier than they're

~~CLineInput nightmare~~

though I am sure they're even. But it feels like it needs ~2px more space between areas

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I am not sure which color. Lightgray as upper one I think

20:22

or fully separate, yes

idk

wait

20:23

some ppl think oblique isnt a cow ?

20:23

what kind of retard would think that

oblique does

Giraffe

@Deleted User @louis @plsplsplslol now imagine playing with that (edited)

yeah it looks fine for playing

@louis does box appear only on chat handle?

20:26

@plsplsplslol ~half of screen width

why would ppl change smth that's already good

20:26

meh

transparency could be fixed

20:27

or lowered

i can suggest more transparent back or smaller chatbox width

well im not the person coding it

20:29

full box or per-message boxes are both an improvement from the last one imo

20:29

imo if u dont have chat open it should have a fixed width box if its just a full box (edited)

20:30

if its a per-message box it'll look better when new chats pop up / fade away

and will not take any unnecessary screen space

senpa worst ddrace player

meh, full box is better in some cases tho

20:32

btw i feel like the chat here can be moved down

20:32

u dont need so much space below it

can someone give me a game.png template? (like with the borders for each thing etc)

@gu https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=2431

thank you kind sir that makes good client

@everyone can s1 please make me a bluekitty skin but with teentaction hair?

like this one

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@Moderator

22:55

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22:56

blocker

Let's talk about why people leave TW for years

22:58

The reason for me, as well as my ex-teammate and I'm pretty sure for every other player that leaves TW for a long time is maps

22:58

I'll explain

22:59

When you first start playing TW you don't care much about what map you gonna play. You just join a server with most players and play with them

23:00

The map on those servers is 100% something long enough, fairly faily, big enough for t0 and so on, doesn't matter

23:01

So you play it, you like it, you gain skill

23:02

And now you start to play maps on your own. With dummy or with real teammate if you have one. You just randomly pick a map by calling "random map unfinished by vote caller" and play it. If you don't like the map from the start already you just vote for another one (edited)

23:02

Everything is cool, you get points, play, have fun, improve skill... UNTIL

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23:05

There is not enough maps anymore. So you was playing novice, voting for random maps, skipping maps you don't like (probably total shitmaps) and finish fun maps

23:07

Now, when you finished, let's say 60% of the novice maps there is no more to play

23:07

Other 40% is divided by half. 20% is total shit that nobody wants ever play

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23:08

And the other 20, or even less, is just maps you personally don't like

23:09

Sorry, There is also 10% more normal, good maps

23:09

Which you cannot dicover, because there is 5 times more bad maps

DUDE

23:10

stfu pls

ok

So you go on moderate, solo and dummy and shit you know

Yes, you do, but thats a little bit later @JMarcell (edited)

The overall idea that you didn't let me tell you is that we need an extra server category for all the shitmaps, which are not fun to play. So when you choose to play here you know what you're going for (edited)

обьективно такие мапы не выбрать вот и всё

23:20

when you play with friends all maps are fun

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Koule

u nobo thhen

Skillz

it was fun for me

How

friends>

Yeah ok

23:21

I played skillz in a call with a friends and it wasnt fun

marcell=cellphone from mars?

Not funny

i ask

23:21

not joking

Imo most old players left cause of the toxicity some other player has in the community, not because we lack of good maps

It’s my name

@Pepe yes

Irl

I agree with smetanolub, most maps are fun if you play with friends and you chilling

Most

@JMarcell condolences

Ofc, there are shit maps on ddnet, some old ones that people still like and usually play, but they have its pros and cons

idc i love thats maps which ppl call shit

23:23

like stereotype

Those are good xd

yeah

23:23

i like it

Why remove maps just because you think they are bad, I think every map that is online has a right to be there

Right now we don't lack of good maps, there are plenty of them with different approach for the players and different styles

23:24

Well, I'm not saying they should be removed, but everyone has their own opinion about shit maps on ddnet

Yes, but there are a lot of shit maps in the same pool

I see you are still missing about 800 maps, I think there is something playable at @Дядя Женя

I want to move them from that pool

23:25

@Cøke yes, there is. But I don't know what

23:26

(A lot of brutals btw, didn't finish them yet) (edited)

23:28

I would suggest adding an optional voting after the player has finished a map. From 1 to 10 how fun was it to play. But in that case admins should store player's IPs

1 am discussions greenthing

8pm boi

2:30. Why not

go sleep

No u

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23:30

Well everyone has their own opinion about a map, so I think that rating them it's not very helpful

That's why not just one person should rate them

Well, actually we have a testing team and it's open to any person who wants to help for the future maps

23:32

So we can improve and learn from our mistakes made in the past

23:32

So if you want to help, go ahead greenthing

There could be rating system on website, but it's too complicated to open it and rate maps, cuz you don't want to

would be shit

I said it's not helpful, not that I don't want to xd

23:34

It's up to the admins

people would rate every map harder than it is

23:40

too gain more points

23:40

and downrate every hard map

That is not about points facepalm

rate = points

rate = how fun it is to play this map

stars = points

So if we would have at least 30-50 rates for each map you could choose a good map to play much easier