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You wouldn't believe how much android devices contact google...

07:17

My dads iphone is completely silent on the network when not in use. My samsung calls home like every minute

They even contact google to check if the device is online. When I was in China my phone always thought it had no internet, since Google servers are all blocked

It's a little surprising to me that the iphone is so conservative with it's tracking

07:20

I honestly dont think it has much if any at all

I think that's one of the main selling points, that Apple protects your privacy

I wonder what phone government agencies with very strict rules get

@Learath2 I have total of 108702 trackers blocked since 29.12.2019, 10:00 untill now

07:21

^^

I doubt it'd be acceptable to jog around langley with an s9 reporting your location every minute

07:21

@Soreu a pihole?

@Learath2 See also the secret American military bases you can easily see on Strava's heatmap

AdGuard set as own VPN to block ads & trackers

@deen didn't that get those devices banned from military installations?

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07:23

Blocked Ads Blocked trackers Blocked threats Saved data

I was thinking of setting up a pihole on my vpn

07:24

Anyway, I'm wondering whether I should look into an iphone again

I get super-frustrated every time I try to fix something on iPhone

07:24

No real file system for once

It gets better after you jailbreak

Way too locked in, can't run your own applications

07:25

Yeah, but after jailbreak my banking apps will stop working

Oh yeah

07:26

If only I could have a nice stock android with all tracking disabled and google pay

07:26

As soon as you disable the boot protection thing to install vanilla android, google pay and most all banking apps just dont want to work

Yeah, I was thinking that if Apple made an Android phone that protects your privacy, I'd probably buy it

07:27

My current solution is just a custom DNS server on Android

It's kinda scary how much information google collects

07:28

It'd be nice if all this data collection could be regulated a bit but with the average politician being a 100 yo, it's unlikely they even understand the concept

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all when just chilling in discord without clicking a single link, and having only Spotify without ads in the bg

@deen do you run the dns server on the device?

07:31

@Soreu you have a xiaomi?

y

Heard those even call home all the way back to china

@Learath2 no, currently just NextDNS, so I'm not even running it myself

I have their smart light bulb, to turn it on thru WiFi the info goes to Chinese servers first, then back to the bulb xD

Oh, also I'm about to board my first flight since the world went to shit :D

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I always wanted to do some smart home stuff, but it's all so proprietary

I'm using xiaomi since it's just cheapest one with still decent features/quality

@Learath2 where are you flying? have a good trip

07:34

I'm actually in the office at work for the first time today since the middle of march

though some Chinese kids know when I'm back home with data going all the way though their servers first xd

I was considering wiring it up myself, but it's not exactly trivial to fit a relay where a light switch used to be and the light switch

07:34

@deen back to italy

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@deen was it actually needed that you go back in? Thought your job would be okay with you being remote

07:37

Airports feel so dead. I can't imagine the millions of dollars they are all wasting

Have a nice flight & chill at workplace I gotta start taking care of huge pile of overdue documents at my desk at work xd

That sounds very boring, have fun :D

not really required, but a new colleague starts today and I'm his mentor. So it's nice to meet him in person

Most of it is fixing mistakes of other ppl and so checking every single line xd

07:39

indeed boring af

Try to have fun anyway? :D

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07:41

call backup pls

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Even thinking of going thru all of it makes me wanna cry & laugh at the same time, but thankfully I'm closer to the second option

07:43

but for real, never every before got even half of what is laying there right now so I'm wondering what the hell has happened

Send half i'll do them

heartw

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so... till later

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2967 Create codeql-analysis.yml

Just want to try it out, not sure yet how large the benefit is for us: https://github.blog/2020-09-30-code-scanning-is-now-available/

Looks interesting. I wonder how it works with C/C++

Yeah, let's just enable and give it a try. We use Coverity at work, I imagine this to be similar

@deen well first of all I guess it couldn't figure out how to build our project :D

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@Learath2 Hey, i know someone who

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has his skins folder getting reset or smth ?

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he is on steam

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and for some reasons the skins just dont stay

If he is replacing skins in the data folder, those get deleted with updates

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If he is only adding skins, they shouldnt get reset

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Though in general all custom data should go in the config directory

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(which we'll start warning users about in the next patch)

he's only adding skins

One thing I'm not sure of is how steam manages the folders, maybe it is cleaning out extras on update

08:31

Ask him when they get reset, if it's on update it could be expected

08:31

He should add his skins to the config directory anyway

@Learath2 alright thanks!

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2968 Create codeql-analysis.yaml

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2967 Create codeql-analysis.yml

I always wanted to do some smart home stuff, but it's all so proprietary

the world needs an OpenWRT of the IOT that will free those proprietary devices @Learath2

11:02

I hope someone will make an open platform compatible with most chipsets used in modern "smart" home applicances

11:05

I've bought a Wi-Fi extender from Xiaomi once just to have a better range for my drone. Has to ~~sell my newborn baby~~ register at their website, install application that requires ALL the permissions possible just to tell this extender a W-Fi SSID and a password of my drone. And to do that I need to use webui on chinese site. To literally login into device in my own hands. Next time I've bought a Xiaomi router it was the same. There were even no web ui. So chinese servers UI store my router's SSH password to provide me access. Happily there was an OpenWRT so after gaining access I was able to reflash it.

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*to reflash it to OpenWRT and I've never need Xiaomi app or account. Thanks gods, privacy is not so much eroded yet in non-Chinese world and we have alternative manufacturers which don't need 24/7 access to devices in my home for them to work.

11:08

I'd better pay 20-30% more for non as sleeky-looking device than buy a device which will require me full access to my home network and my phone to gain access to a $10 dongle.

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*again

11:08

Sorry for mistakes. Trying my best not to edit my messages in this bridged channel

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Am in Italy, didn't get arrested at the border

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Problem with smart home stuff is that there usually is open source software that manages them, but they all communicate over proprietary apis. So the open source manager usually ends up a jumble of reverse engineered plugins to interact witb different things

Am in Italy, didn't get arrested at the border

nice

@Learath2 welcome back to the

justatest

EU funfact: Croatia is the only member country to not have a burgundy passport

@Deleted User "Wi-Fi extender from Xiaomi"

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WiFi extender makes more problems than it actually solves

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and Xiaomi... the only thing that's worse than Xiaomi are those unknown Chinese trash brands

13:02

why do people still buy these things...

13:02

if you want some cheap network device at home, go for TP-LINK

13:03

if you want something better but still quite cheap go for MikroTik or Ubiquiti

13:03

it's really that simple

I use TP-LINK's adapters, they work >)

Ubiquiti is pretty darn proprietary too

13:36

Something akin to a consumer cisco

yes, but it works at least without sending all your data to chinese servers

WiFi extender makes more problems than it actually solves

I've used it to get more range for my Ryzen Tello drone. And it's extended range 5x.

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I don't use extenders at home. If I had a problem I'd used something like mesh for that.

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by the way, i thought you were concerned about privacy issues - you were afraid of IME

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that makes sense actually, but then you go and buy some Xiaomi thing

But it's running OpenWRT now

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I mean the router

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and I use the extender literally in the fields only, it is connected to my drone Wi-Fi AP with no internet access (edited)

14:06

But I was very upset I have to install app to my phone to be able to login to my router and to reflash it.

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I've used virtual android on PC for that

nice

but still Xiaomi knows my phone number now and that it's connected with my router mac address

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though they don't have any other info

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But I didn't knew that I will have to do so much extra work to reflash that damn thing. I just knew it's possible to install OpenWRT there.

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Next time I would use flasher for that. Much less hassle. But I didn't had one atm.

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a hardware one

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And I didn't expected that WiFi extender to be that ~~sophisticated~~ overcomplicated.

what if it even doesn't have standalone SPI flash rom chip?

Come on, it's usual electronics. It has JTAG and also usual flash memory chips.

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One way or another it'd be easy to flash it.

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I mean it's not apple (yet).

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Well at least they don't have electronics designed for them.

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In contrast TP-Link router I've bought later is Chinese too. But it was very regular. Only web ui and fully open for anything.

if they make millions of these things, it's possible that it has only that black epoxide spot inside with everything integrated in it

Epoxide is not nice for nanometer-sized electronics that tend to be overheating.

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It'd died rather quickly.

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It's ok for calculators and such.

everything is OK if you want to keep price as low as possible

But nobody will buy a router with 1 month guarantee.

yes

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at least 2 years are needed

I've had 2 routers that worked for 10 years.

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Both were asus.

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I've fixed capacitors 4 times on each. Still working.

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No IC degradation at all.

4 capacitors dying in just 10 years doesn't sound so great

I think it's not only capacitors but something else. As first 5 years they worked with no problem.

sometimes it's hard to get good capacitors

So I've fixed both on 5, 7, 8, 9, 9, 10 mark.

I only had these problems with hardware from the 2000s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Capacitor plague

The capacitor plague was a problem related to a higher-than-expected failure rate of non-solid aluminium electrolytic capacitors, between 1999 and 2007, especially those from some Taiwanese manufacturers, due to faulty electrolyte composition that caused corrosion accompanied ...

Yeah I think my capacitors were getting worse.

aftewards no dead caps

and manufactorer used better ones

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they lasted 5 years which is nice

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mine lasted 1-2 but costed me like 0.2$ each

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also 20 minutes of labor too

now those routers are pretty useless anyway, right?

Yes, as I've bought a Xiaomi and TP-Link ones with better Wifi ac number

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I've loved those little routeres

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especially amber backlight on WL-500g

single antenna only unlike those modern monsters with 4 and more antennas

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Exactly my 2 precious routers (top two)

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found on the internets

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that looks like orange, but in fact is amber

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looked very warm

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also I think I will reuse their enclosure for something

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it's really nicely designed and RPi fits there or even 2 of them

WiFi module can be replaced

yeah!

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but I didn't bothered

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I am using wifi only for mobile

there are no modern WiFi cards with miniPCI (not PCIe) anyway

I think there are m2 ones

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which could be compatible with a mechanical convertor

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but you'd better to check that

what are those additional wires? serial console hack?

that's not my photo

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but that could be GPIO pins

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so maybe it's for serial

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or for IOT

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this router doesn't much different from RPi in it's core

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same chip I believe

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at least in RT-16

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at least it's ARM too and have linux and plenty of GPIO

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if you want to solder them

RPi has more powerful processor and much more RAM probably

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even the oldest one

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even not so old TP-LINKs have only 32 MB of RAM

you're right

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No, modern routeres have much more power and mem

yes they do

It is powered by Qualcomm Atheros QCA9558 @ 720 MHz chipset, 128 MB RAM and 8 MB flash.

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This is my current one

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it's dual core I believe

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Though I've thought it has 1 GB of RAM

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weird

sometimes it has even USB port, so that little flash storage can be extended (edited)

Never bought a router w/o USB in my life

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Used every one with USB hard disk as a home file storage

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and one router as a video monitoring system

it must be super slow as file server, or no?

it's much slower than SATA ofc

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but it doesn't makes a difference for achiving/backuping for example

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my home network is gigabit now and it's 1/6 of maximum theoretical SATA 3.0 speed

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which is very fast

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and dual core 720 Mhz CPU is more than enough for that

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and I use cheap old HDD's not SSD for a file storage, so HDD speed is right ~1 Gbps (edited)

your router has USB 3.x port?

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USB 2.0 with its theoretical 480 Mbps is quite slow for gigabit network

you're right it doesn't

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Xiaomi one had it

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I rarely use it for anything but backups though

there was an Asus router with 2.5" HDD drive bay inside

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maybe it had even native SATA

yeah

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I've wanted that

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Also Xiaomi Pro has internal SATA I believe

ARM SoC with native SATA is quite rare thing, so let's hope it doesn't use some slow USB2-to-SATA converter

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like many ARM boards out there with few exceptions

I think I've read an in-depth review of Xiaomi router Pro and there was no convertor

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but I am aware that usually there are USB2.0 convertors inside

I think the voting system to kick/ban someone should be changed. Atleast the kick voting. Since the people are spread out quite alot in the maps, a blocker/teamkiller or troll rarely gets kicked out. Imo there should be less votes required

then it will be easier to abuse

Then fun voting will be a bigger problem justatest

justatest

@Saiborg you should ping moderators here, if you need help

if auth system would/ introduced it would be easy to set a weight for an authed player to 2 and also track funvoters (edited)

authed players can force vote

if possible, tees that are close to the person being kicked can have 2x effect on the vote system or something.

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i agree that a blocker/teamkiller rarely gets kicked out - it is a problem (edited)

thats not a bad idea

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but would it be based on distance or time bcs i think there are some maps that loop back around on themselves

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Damn, been away too long

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17:46

Oh thank god I remembered that

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That would have been catastrophic

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I missed nvidia drivers on linux so much

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damn those bezels are small

I researched a lot before getting them

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They did kinda cheat though, there is a "bezel" on the panel itself, pixels that are not real pixels, just black

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