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Between 2020-09-25 00:00:00Z and 2020-09-26 00:00:00Z
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is there a map that you can train wallhammer?
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u can do wallhamer in any common part
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@l3ig0de first part of map Epix
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@Soreu any chance to mention map Epix 🀣
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It's just the one I remember easy wallhammer possibility in first part xd
12:35
my memory for map names sucks though
12:36
btw, weird how there's not a single wallhammer needed on [School] Hammer
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Big troll move monkalaugh
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purple panic 1-4 are the best maps to learn annoying drag tech (edited)
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@Soreu I mean maps that require to hammer through a 1 block wall
13:07
not that diagonal space thing
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2star DDRaceMaX maps is the best way to learn drag techniques. And that's because DDRaceMaX is the best way.
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I think we need new maps to teach drag techniques. E.g. a wallhammer after a few hooks (like in that one Purple Panic part) wont teach you wallhammer properly.
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@l3ig0de try the map Pale on ddmax
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If you want to train stuff, you might want to make your own map for it xD
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Fun fact: I cant play maps on my own LAN server, I literally can't catch my dummy. The ping drop from 70 to 0 is so freaky. I can only enjoy Gores on LAN feelsbadman I once stayed in germany for a bit and could not get used to the low ping haha.
13:18
tfw u play with lag ur whole tw career
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you could theoretically join your server using the regular internet tab instead of the LAN tab
13:19
then you don't have 0 ping
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Interesting.. well I recently figured that I can just use ddnet trashmap servers to get the same ping I'm used to πŸ˜…
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@murpi wat it doesn't work like that
nouis 3
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Yeah, thats an option aswell haha
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@l3ig0de I know, but it doesn't mean you can't change how you go thru the part to train specific thing
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yes it does work like that
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no ur still connecting to the same server?
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I don't know why but you won't have 0 ping
13:21
its the same for me
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@heinrich5991 can probably give more insight why
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oh on lan my ping is 5-10 consistent on internet its 5-20 tho
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So u got an insane low ping @all. Mine is 1-2 on LAN and otherwise ~ 25
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@murpi cl_showpred 1
13:40
Shows real ping
13:40
It doesnt make sense to have more ping connecting from internet tab btw
13:40
But tab ping is not accurate
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@Ryozuki after typing that command, where do I see the accurate ping then
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Top right
13:41
Under fps
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oh, ok thanks
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Ur now using a ryozuki feature, pls dont hate urself
13:42
monkalaugh
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I'll just type ping in the console every ms justatest
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@Ryozuki just to clarify, that's not the ping, but prediction that the client is doing based on how the ping has behaved in the last few seconds
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but it indicates how much delayed your actions are, so it's more useful than ping
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activate antiping for lagless gameplay (at the cost of some visual lag if u have high ping)
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not visual lag
15:54
just jumpiness
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is that not visual lag
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no
15:56
actually less visual lag because the other tees are now predicted
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u confuse lag and delay
15:57
antiping is good
15:57
as long as ur ping is relatively stable and under 250 then it helps alot (edited)
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what? there is literally zero visual lag without antiping everything looks normal except there is huge delay with high ping, with antiping everything appears to be (visually )lagging but there is no delay at all
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huh
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whats the difference between visual lag and visual delay
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acqwerty
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onby
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what is the average time to finish a map on ddnet all maps and ranks included?
16:58
my guess is 7minutes
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maybe less cause there's probably like 4000000 finishes on run_blue dragging it down
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i tried to take this into account
17:02
could be anything really
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Hm, there is a way to account for the insanely high numbers. It's called a truncated mean
17:03
But it's not easy to calculate as mysql doesnt have a method for it
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mmmh
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Ah I know how to hack around it
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learATH biggest hacker
poggers 4
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weonby
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Mh, the table is massive, you'll have to wait a bit πŸ˜„
17:13
I'll go have dinner
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@gdin watch out
justatest 2
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4640046 records there πŸ˜„
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o.O
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@Learath2 What are you having for dinner?
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Tomato salad, meatballs, rice
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Sounds quite healthy. What about the seasoning and/or sauce though?
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A turkish meatball needs no seasoning nor does the rice. We make all of the above quite flavourful though clever use of spices
17:28
For the salad I like to go simple while the tomatoes are so good. Just very good olive oil, lemon juice and a hint of grape vinegar
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Turkish meatball ?! I know the Danish know how to do them but never heard of Turkish style.
17:29
Simple salads are the best, finding the right balance is key.
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Swedes apparently got it from the turks. I'd guess the danes took it from the swedes
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Oh my bad, I meant Swedish meatballs actually, Hah!
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Hm, I should make swedish meatballs next week. Though it's not very easy to get a hold of lingonberries in italy
17:31
So I have to stick to just lingonberry jam
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I'm going to have to google this Turkish style. Also rice is quite interesting with that
17:31
When I picture meatballs, I think of gravy and potatoes
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Turkish rice derives it's flavour from a lot of butter and sometimes stock
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Oh damn nice!
17:32
Enjoy mate
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Enjoy'd already :D
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So you're living in Italy? Why do you mention lingonberries though, is that a good pairing with a the typical Swedish meal? I tried a Czech dish that incorporated some form of Cranberry jam on top of whipped cream and gravy. It was amazing.
17:38
well i hope cooking #questions are allowed here, because i believe @Learath2 can show us some dope recipes
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It's very off-topic here πŸ˜„
17:44
Lingonberries is the classic accompaniment to swedish meatballs, along with very quickly pickled cucumbers, mashed potatoes and gravy
bluekitty 2
17:49
@Im 'corneum if I don't trim the extremes the average is 1241.42 seconds
17:49
If the trimmed query ever ends I'll tell you the trimmed average
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hm so i overestimated the amount of short ranks πŸ˜„
monkaS 3
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@Im 'corneum if you discard the top and bottom 10% of ranks, it's 905.61seconds
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@Learath2 well idk what else i expected but its nice to know. thx
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i think bano had a 500000min rank on time shop πŸ˜„
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MariaDB [teeworlds]> SELECT Map, MAX(Time) AS maxT FROM record_race GROUP BY Map ORDER BY maxT DESC LIMIT 10; +--------------------+----------+ | Map | maxT | +--------------------+----------+ | Time Shop | 30000000 | | Care for your Time | 2587610 | | Binary | 144025 | | Nightmare | 139467 | | Sunny Side Up | 123704 | | Ravillion | 108921 | | Epix | 99610.6 | | Not Naufrage 4 | 97791.1 | | Arcade 2 | 97574.3 | | Lost 2 | 96248.1 | +--------------------+----------+ 10 rows in set (2.890 sec)
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epix
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epix best
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that lovely 30000000 @ Time Shop
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im suprised kobra isnt there
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I'm surprised Epix is there lol
18:18
I wonder how much of that one has something to do with me xD
18:19
@Blade ^ πŸ˜…
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MariaDB [teeworlds]> SELECT Map, AVG(Time) AS avgT FROM record_race GROUP BY Map ORDER BY avgT DESC LIMIT 10; +----------------+--------------------+ | Map | avgT | +----------------+--------------------+ | Time Shop | 1010183.2241607914 | | run_antibuguse | 35175.5365234375 | | Binary | 26043.32111899873 | | Generic World | 23130.4399469549 | | Springlobe 3 | 21792.124128753065 | | Adrenaline 4 | 16945.430541992188 | | 4u | 16262.344057829483 | | LichKing | 16259.538803998163 | | Airnade Ultra | 14488.277557373047 | | Striped Clouds | 13050.595547762785 | +----------------+--------------------+ 10 rows in set (2.893 sec)
18:20
If I sort by average time Epix is not there, so I'd guess a couple people with awful ranks caused that πŸ˜„
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@Learath2 that still sounds like I'm related with it, because Epix is my fist step when teaching someone from zero - it just has all the basics & lets me analize the way of thinking of the newbie. @Saiborg is my latest victim, but I have had ~8h runs on it with others xD (edited)
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Just you wait, after i master this game, i will be the one laughing when i take you to insane levels πŸ™‚ @Soreu
18:30
Also, yeah epix is great
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MariaDB [teeworlds]> SELECT Map, Name, Time FROM record_race WHERE Map="Epix" ORDER BY Time DESC LIMIT 10; +------+-----------------+---------+ | Map | Name | Time | +------+-----------------+---------+ | Epix | nameless tee | 99610.6 | | Epix | brainless tee | 99608.3 | | Epix | Narcizj | 44386.7 | | Epix | Hermezj | 44380.1 | | Epix | @string/name | 30439.5 | | Epix | @string/dummy | 30431.8 | | Epix | εƒη«θΏŸ | 27197.1 | | Epix | εƒη«θΏŸεˆ†θΊ« | 26985.7 | | Epix | xiaobu | 26285.1 | | Epix | ε°εΈƒηš„ε°εΌŸ | 26269.8 | +------+-----------------+---------+ 10 rows in set (0.045 sec)
18:31
These are the top10 worst times on Epix
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phew, im not in there πŸ˜…
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if somebody is a troll in FNG, what must i doing?
18:40
srry for my english xd
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troll @noby, he's FNG expert here (hah)
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sadfsadgasg
18:42
oh
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it depends what u define as trolling
18:43
if its disruptive enough then a mod will come ban
18:43
otherwise i guess votekicking is a good start
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he kill in wrong spikes
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ye i dont personally enforce that
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he kills*
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maybe just noob?
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some people do it on purpose because they think its funny
18:43
idk
18:43
he plays since a years
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dru
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xd
18:45
does it matter rly
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@noby what happens when killing using wrong spikes? negative points for the team?
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on my server its only negative points for the player
18:46
doesnt affect the teamscore (bcs trolls)
18:46
on ddnet server im not sure how its setup
18:46
but making it not affect team score there would be a good fix
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but in ddnet server this affect the team score
18:46
:c
18:46
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can we change that
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look the team score and the player scores
18:49
admins can change it in the console or in the autoexec.cfg or fng.cfg to 0
18:49
?
18:50
sv_team_score_false
18:50
src\game\variables_special.h
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?
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it can be changed by admin in the .cfg yes
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@Im 'corneum kek
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@murpi joining via internet/lan tab should result in the same ping
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@noby @Fulanito sv_team_score_false 0 ?
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yeah sounds good thx
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call a mod
20:50
or try to kick him
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@heinrich5991 This is via Internet Tab: https://i.imgur.com/ZbLK9Mt.png
22:49
and this via LAN tab: https://i.imgur.com/fNPtMoT.png
22:49
and the lag is quite noticable when joining via internet tab
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seems plausible to me. I remember my fritzbox was also routing me to the internet and then back when I connect to external ip address
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@murpi I stand corrected
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