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DDnetchile ( map : Multimap ) Blocking Poseidon @Moderator (edited)

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@Deleted User he was the owner of ddmax.

05:49

Almost never played ddnet i guess

anyone wanna go novice maps ?

Too bad that it seems that no technical addition could prevent serial griefers like Orochimaru from griefing as long as he wants to. (edited)

07:19

Sounds like the game is fundamentaly vulnerable to griefing and moderators institute can only help a little bit. (edited)

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name ban

@Moderator GER 2 - Novice Just2Easy map. Monter, twelve, Tyochi are blocking at finish (edited)

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a lot of games have griefer problems too tho

breaking the rules can be exciting, so i don't think that it will ever stop

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maybe we could shadowban people

They would notice that they can't touch anyone else pretty quick, no?

setting up fake servers with bots and cheaters for cheaters XD

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Any SA players willing to play through some novice maps?

today we lost a valuable asset

What did we lose?

saavik

Ah, yep a shame

Rip

context?

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#freeshocktsunami

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@Blade the map is using (time) penalty tiles

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Oh

you pay with race time and receive weapons/endless jumps etc.

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Aha.. Interesting, i'll check it out

i will pay 100000 minutes to ban noby

could we maybe talk about the lady saavik / welf situation and not just all silently take a side and react with emojis accordingly?

there is a situation?

yea those emotes are cringe af

i think the relevant conversation links are the following: https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/734089915163213945/754318250535288883 https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/716185814958211073/755533014481502348 (they are in map testing channels, so if you can't access them, go into the #📌info channel and follow the instructions there)

saavik is a better tester

im siding with saavik

yup welf is a dick

#teamsaavik

16:00

i need to make a meme. how do i make a meme

memeing like the cool kids @Im 'corneum

imagine

16:00

losing saavik

16:00

thanks to a clown

xd

saavik is a better tester

that is kinda what it feels like @Ryozuki. this discussion should not about who of them is the most popular, but thats kinda what it feels like

time to get banned

eh sentence duplication

16:02

the questions should be: 1. what is it that Welf did that caused this reaction? 2. is this reaction the sensible sensible?

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Yes

potat

the second question is much more subjective than the first one

Can you are rephrasing second question i are not understanding

indeed potat

2. was leaving the testing team the sensible reaction from lady saavic?

Thx

imagine

Yes

being in team

16:07

with a bully

16:07

and a clown

XD I am trying to be nice

would you wanna be in that team?

the questions should be: 1. what is it that Welf did that caused this reaction? 2. is this reaction the sensible sensible?

@Patiga 1) xD 2) XDDD

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i wanna go through the questions in order, i'll get to that

Ok

this was before Welf become tester again?

@Im 'corneum that is not really on the subject, you cant expect testers to invest more time into testing than they want to and if they have fun doing related stuff its something entirely different

Let's write NN to test maps

No Nut?

rip

Neural Network

16:11

But first variant I like more

heinrich will save welf from public critizism

16:14

the admin in the shadows

XD

To me this whole thing seems like saavik had a shitty day and welf made her day worse with unnecesairy shitty comments (edited)

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i didn't do unnecesairy shitty comments

Why?

"XDDDDD"

16:16

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/716185814958211073/755533014481502348 https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/734089915163213945/754318250535288883

I'm laughing btw

16:16

When see this smile

you are a team leader, held to a higher standard

@Ryozuki I recognize that wording, is @eNJi sharing my private chat?

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@heinrich5991 u said that to me when ukicked me from mods

ah, I just repeat myself

Deleted the "XD"s, it was wrong, i am sorry.

1 (from my point of view). Welf doesn't seem to have drastically different ideas about mapping. instead its rather about 2 occasions where Welf disagreed with her and didnt communicate that in a neutral conversation, but instead made it a bigger problem than it was

welf im on your side if you give multifat ready finally

its ready?

isnt it on rdy?

its ready u 5head

i chose a real bad moment to say this

16:19

im kinda retarded

wait XD

Yes

@Im 'corneum dont worry, we know

16:19

Problem with testing is that it's completely subjective

lets not start this debate rn

16:19

this is about another issue

16:20

(exept if it is somehow directly related)

16:20

*except

Basics map one star which I could've beat only with a pro in team xd (edited)

1 (from my point of view). Welf doesn't seem to have drastically different ideas about mapping. instead its rather about 2 occasions where Welf disagreed with her and didnt communicate that in a neutral conversation, but instead made it a bigger problem than it was

seems like this take isnt controversial?

dont assume what happened, i think it's more than just 2 occasions

People disagree about subjective stuff. Saavik didn't like being disagreed with as with most of the old guard, neither does Welf. Something had to give eventually

welf is like jao but worse

saavik is like the oldest tester i know rip

@ᶰ°Konͧsti wake up you gotta get worst rank

havent welf and saavik tested together or at the same time forever?

saavik was there before me and others were there before saavik afaik

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16:26

like 645654 and phacrum were testers, idk who else

Nice

might have been the first real testers as well.

16:27

idk abvout odlschool days but i guess they just released any map that looked okay for the admin

Map quality developed after some years and old maps weren't that good (in average). If they didn't release many maps, the servers would've been rather empty in the beginning. The choices from back then had their reasons, ofcoure it looks stupid from today's perspective ("why did they release these bad maps?"). (edited)

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wtf happened again

16:32

i just see drama again

saavik left cuz welf

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Saavik left because she is saavik

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16:34

she leaves every few month nothing new

i dont know if they had any private drama but the things welf said werent that agressive

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16:34

its just testing idk, when testing there is always heated discussions, and many different opinions

If you take anything seriously in this 2d game you must be kinda retarded

oh pls

16:34

ama u always like this

16:35

ur instagram pfp just makes it worse

ryozuki go die from corona

xd

@heinrich5991 can u dm @Ama ?

16:35

he is being mean to me

16:35

he has OG status

@Learath2 what happens if time overflows?

you get negative time

@ZimE on 32 bit it goes back to 0 afaik

probs to -max int 32

i dont know what datatype is time rn

2 (my take again): For me it seems like each situation could easily be defused. for example if any one of them wouldve ended the first discussion at https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/734089915163213945/754325051792162827 , everything wouldve been solved. both agreed that the map would be just as good either way and the mapper can decide, the end. either one couldve ended it. for me this sounds like it could be solved in a heartbeat, if they either quickly exchanged what annoyed them or by one of them just ending discussions once they get into the useless state. in my eyes something wayy less drastic than leaving the tester team should have solved this. this again feels like another time one of them blows their differences wayy out of proportion

Signed integer overflow is completely undefined

9,223,372,036,854,775,807

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16:37

he needs to get this time

16:37

if its a signed iny 64

16:37

int

it uses 32bit

isnt time float?

nah

it uses server ticks doesnt it

actually thats a startlineskip on every map

so 2^31 * 20 42 949 672 960

16:38

ms

29826 days if my calculation is correct

16:38

which possibly isnt

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/755829617415422153 this only obv applies if none of the 2 want to add different problems which we dont know about yet

got the same ryozuki

nice

16:39

how many minutes tho

81 years

hes already at 700 days

16:39

7000

yeah cuz it has time adder

lol the screenshots of saavik getting mad are just funny XD

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81 years

16:39

U

ME

16:40

cyberTroll

U

so i was right that she just got mad to get mad

cyberfarter

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yes yes you are right ama

@Ama send screenshot

now go back to ur insta

ryozuki go back to masturbating to saavik nudes

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i fap to anime girls not saavik (edited)

16:41

get ur facts

16:41

right

let's calm down

@murpi

@Patiga most testing discussions end like this, because it's mostly subjective, people like to defend their opinions

@ZimE

@cyberfighter

@ZimE

if you take me and ryozukis argument seriusly im sorry

xdddd

Welf should have defused this though, as he was the "responsible" one, the "Leader"

they dont know monkaS

@cyberfighter If you have nothing to contribute to the ongoing discussion, refrain from spamming random shit. Take it to #off-topic

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i didn't feel like repeating myself, so i used the "XD", sorry i am a human, too

most testing discussions end like this, because it's mostly subjective, people like to defend their opinions

well yes, i agree. thats also why im confused about why this one in particular end this way

every tester should be leader

16:43

and get fucked for releasing shit maps

ama for leader

16:43

you release quality maps

16:43

well known

i dont have time for this bullshit

@Animefan I have a feeling you didn't want to defuse this at all honestly

my maps are all over 5 years old

16:44

i would release something special now but i dont have time or motivation

send me all your unfinished maps

best maps

@Im 'corneum i have a lot of maps that are 3 seconds long then i scrap, u want?

Get back jao as leader or ban

@Im 'corneum can i send you my map

gib

let's talk about bad ama maps

Let's not

Man why u guys even give a shit wether the conversation was defused or not. Welfs father couldve not nutted in his mom and that wouldve defused the situation aswell. U guys could be productive and that would defuse ur nonproductivity rn

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ryozuki do you even have maps ?

yeah one solo

@Ama i remember declining a ryozuki map

and i dont like it

@Ama i have 2 https://ddnet.tw/mappers/Ryozuki/

well

5 year old too

16:45

kekw

Welf should have defused this though, as he was the "responsible" one, the "Leader"

i completely agree that that is the most obvious and easy solution. but honestly i believe anyone in the tester team should kinda take that kind of responsibility in those situations

It happened and welf should just apologize to saavik

16:46

And then everyone can go back to sucking dick

but urs is to short

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@Lady Saavik i am sorry for writing "XD" it was wrong and i was annoyed

ravie rn:

Uve sucked my dick and couldnt handle the size

Stop trashtalk

nice maps ryozuki

ty bb

bb

is there any way to append a game layer

@Ama see good tester, giving me tips on my second map ever created https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?p=14865#p14865

or copy/paste from one map to another

16:49

ama for leader

in my eyes this problem is kinda solved by itself if both are actually willing to let those things go @Lady Saavik how do you see it from your perspective?

@louis select it and load another map, it will be kept selected to place

what Ravie said

just make sure you're on the same layer

omg thanks

only works with 2 layers at a time tho

what happened to savik

17:04

lady

@Lady Saavik why

lol

also what did welf do

Welf is biggest simp

it's no simp september tho

Hi

hi

How can ı find player

18:26

U play DDrace

@40KiloFullKasŞakoMain u find me

Yay

18:28

@ZimE#4506

18:28

Now?

Someone explain why Saavik rq and why welfs fault

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hA?

Someone explain why Saavik rq and why welfs fault

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Someone explain why Saavik rq and why welfs fault

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Someone explain why Saavik rq and why welfs fault

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Someone explane me how to speak english

18:32

Oh

Someone explane me how to speak english

@40KiloFullKasŞakoMain use Google translate

Hmmm

18:33

@Ertee :D someone explane me how can ı download map in ddrace

If u want someone help, just ask SP | Someone (Zombietoad)

18:33

@Ertee :D someone explane me how can ı download map in ddrace

@40KiloFullKasŞakoMain join server

Hmmm

18:34

Nope

If u want someone help, just ask SP | Someone (Zombietoad)

@Ertee :D don't be like this, sp someone is a troll

@Animefan lies, i wouldnt ask you for help so you say that he is a troll

If welf was a girl u all would take his side

@Ertee :D don't be like this, sp someone is a troll

@Animefan Yeah good idea (edited)

@monster girl if welf was girl then he wouldnt be tester and he would be admin (edited)

@cyberfighter wtf xD

Lol true

One problem

18:43

I am girl

exceptions exist

what about that ?

19:01

@Moderator

what about it

500 000 min timer ?

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hes just really bad at the game

that a 347 days run

yeah im joking

dude

the map has parts where it adds to your time

he has to practice

so he just got time added a bunch due to the map and got 500000

some parts are really hard

okok

trolls

@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII in case someone needs a clickable link

wat

what a troll name

19:10

but u can click it

19:10

atleast me

heinrich is a large troll and must be banned

@ᶰ°Konͧsti why large and not huge

Ban fake Lola

or wide

konsti real lola

im real lola

lola changed name to konsti

im real noby

wait i want to say something too Welf sucks ass

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I am real konsti

who is the real slim shady?

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wait i want to say something too

> > > >

Welf sucks ass

@Silex

19:57

wait

19:57

are all silex maps crap?

19:58

oh yes they are

nope (edited)

No they arent

senpa

wat

xD

Silex is best mapper

omg

19:59

pls die

19:59

kappa

u

lola is best speedrunner

zeuz

Gordon just too bad for Silex maps kek

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xd

20:00

i think i finished more silex maps than u

20:00

@ᶰ°Konͧsti

doubt

wtf he makes good t0 maps

20:01

but all those annoying verification 16246.4642 solos make me angry

t0 maps gay

20:02

af

20:02

2p force

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+1

than best maps

t0 best team

maybe 4p

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gay

20:02

Teamforce is so dumb

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na

no

t0 maps are such funny with friends

LOL

20:03

friends

people are overusing teamforce

dude shut up

For no reason

friends

using 'gay' as an insult, that is dumb

nope

@gerdoe play with uzre friends in a team

in russia thats ok to kill gays

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If u want to play 2team do it

silex ye its so hetero

uzre?

@Silex gay is an insult as long the insulted feels offended

20:03

Ur gay Silex

nice typing

and "gay" is grave insult in russia tho

In germany too

xDDDd

@eNJi realest welf

Multimap best map

TPaul did good work (edited)

na t0 map too

20:05

novice t0map

all novice maps are t0

No

2 p force novice

best idea eu west lola

Ad and PeX are always in team 43

they suck

20:06

Never seen bigger nobos than them

So u nobo too

lola hugest nobo

lolamento

ur

weonby

Im pro

20:07

and noby

konsti is pro

na u notz

lola sucks

lola best

konsti > lola

lola = "bad"

Noby > Konsti

f3

20:07

noby bigger troll than konsti

Im im

why is welf

team 55 best team

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20:10

XD

why is qwerty

its christmas soon

bro

team 55 best team

@cyberfighter i like 55

+33

20:11

kappa

Yeah I need new christmas avatar

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team 64 is good

infinity sign

20:12

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I've added doors and water physics to waterpirate map in infNext Basically I've recreated WaterMOD with infection classes

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It's so easy with ddnet tune, door and switch tiles

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I am so glad I've ported infNext to ddnet codebase

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@Moderator Pimmelkopf and pumpumpum blocking on GER2 Kobra

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@Moderator Mario is blocking everyone* (edited)

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@MihaDragon что думаешь о том, что на замену мультимапе придёт #deleted-channel?

@Deleted User Что за Мультифэт?

alright @louis he is still being asshole

@deen can you change the Blocker map of brasil ? There is blmappepe and nobody plays in that map :/ In br we usually play blmap4

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мультифэт это мультимапа размера увеличенного

just go to multimap server @Koshac

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типа там 1 блок занимает 4ъ

22:01

yolo

@cyberfighter jajajajajaja chupala

@Lady Saavik i am sorry for writing "XD" it was wrong and i was annoyed

@Animefan I am tired of you saying sorry EVERY time you were rude to me

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XD

I don't think this should be talked publicly

why not

22:13

this should be talked publicly

Dying is natural

@Lady Saavik kocham cie

english only

murpi only english

follow ur mod rules

@murpi Cię

ban me

ur rly cocky lately

murpi is worst mod

22:14

after shawn

thanks

no lol

22:14

murpi is cool

Why should be? I think this problem it's between them and they should talk as grown people

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lol no

all mods are worst

u

cyberTroll

cybertroll

22:14

XD

U

Make cyberFighter mod teamlead (edited)

22:16

that will make me worst mod

Why should be? I think this problem it's between them and they should talk as grown people

@Pepe this shows how welf has become, or maybe he was even like this

22:16

i may hate ppl but i dont tell them to die, yet

22:16

xdd

My only comment to this is: this decision wasn't based only on the 2 situations in maps channels that happened last days

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Less work -> more free time

22:17

Only pros from going out of testers

?

What's not clear?

Only pros from going out of testers

22:18

this

22:18

ah

22:19

i get it now

22:19

xD

XD

pros

i was rly fixated in that pros meant high skilled

He became a sarcastic guy? Idk why you trying to imply with "this shows welf has become"

and not pros as good things

22:19

sarcastic

22:19

u mean telling someone to die

22:19

xd

XD

haha

im offended

it was just a joke

XDDDDDD

haha just a joke

22:20

ok mate

22:20

peace

u

No u

So you taking it as a threat?

multifat worst map

22:21

i just found out

Like he actually wanted her to die?

btw i talked many times with welf and he never showed that "sarcasm"

22:21

that i recall

And it would replace multimap sooner or later

wrong

22:21

novice =/= fun

nice pfp

ty

22:22

is me

!=

@eNJi who is it

Is better

me

i thought its wel

its him

welf

Than =/=