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Between 2020-08-20 00:00:00Z and 2020-08-21 00:00:00Z

@Ryozuki I dont understand what to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZnF17TgEQ

Teeworlds - How to map a DDRACE map. - Part 1

00:11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKuv4nn3nIo

Teeworlds - How to map a DDRACE map. - Part 2

00:11

im 2 lazy to explain by text

00:11

and im gonna go sleep

00:11

2 am here

@Moderator i saved my game on junglerabies and misspelled my save and now i dont know it. can you do anything about it?

go to ur folder @JeFf u will se a file named ddnet-saves.txt or smth like that

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Check your save file in your folder, I forgot the name of it

k

@shiv

00:13

@CaerulusX middle mouse to move camera, space to show the tiles

00:13

follow the video

00:14

i also linked u a forum post

00:14

with lot of info

this game is amazing bros

yes

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heartw

xde

damn whats going on over 3500 finishes on learntoplay since steam release

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CHN4

justatest

i for one welcome our new overlords (edited)

imagine once these asian trolls get better than any European player and start making good but impossible maps justatest

justatest

justatest

justatest

justatest

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justatest

and the whole top 5 will be 1.☐☐☐☐☐ 2.☐☐ 3.☐☐☐ 4.☐☐☐ 5.☐☐☐☐☐

easy fix, learn chinese then you can decipher the boxes

Any good maps to learn and practice speedfly?

just fly?

which one?

any one

06:12

maybe 1

06:12

if you want just a straight path to the heavens, lots of maps have that at the beginning

what?

06:13

I tried pasting text in chat

06:13

But is just sended the text in chat

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06:14

go on empty server

I know

06:14

I wanted to type /map NUT_short_race6

06:15

But the "NUT_short_race6" part just got sended into chat

06:15

weird

yea

06:15

I know the problem pretty annoying

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Just type by hand

06:15

Its ddmax map

I know how to vote

xd

you dont need to type out th3e whole map. /map ntshrt6 should be enought#

Just type by hand

@ᶰ°Konͧsti

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06:16

no?

I dont want to find a map, /map is easier for me

thats under oldschool

He want speedfly

06:16

Not fly

I'll try this one

yeah buts thats a map where you can practice speedfly

06:16

if he just wants a straight line

06:16

then idk

On just fly?

06:16

Nah

I dont know how to speedfly yet

This nut map is good and on Koule 17 u can also try speedfly

06:17

With dummy its easy

06:17

Use deepfly

Skychase is the only right answer to go teach someone speedfly

Thank you

Left of the start is a huge open area

omg I just did 0.5 seconds of speedfly for the first time in my life

06:30

But I still dont understand when do I release the hook

06:31

Can someone explain please?

even i dont understand it

06:31

at some point u just feel it

Can you even speedfly with dummy? (edited)

06:37

I think my dummy is hitting to slow, idk

ye u can

I can start speedfly, but lose all the speed very fast

u need to use deepfly bind

?

to control the hammers timing manually

06:41

vote "just deepfly" map on an empty server

what's deepfly bind?

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06:42

the dummy will hammer everytime u left click

THANK YOU

06:44

Did speedfly first try

Is there a bind to quickly swap between these two mods? @snail (edited)

yeah u can make one

how (edited)

06:46

Can I bind binds?

u can make specific txt files for each bind and bind these

06:47

but i think the easiest way is just to use 3 different keys

06:47

1 for normal hammerfly (which u wont use anymore once u have enough dummy experience)

06:47

1 for deepfly

06:47

and 1 to remove deepfly

06:47

(bind z "bind mouse1 "+fire"")

https://i.imgur.com/A0tvbRV.png

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06:47

But can I bind them on 1 button?

06:48

So I can toggle between

u wanna rotate through?

yes

thats gonna be ultra confusing

Do I need to understand everything?

hm

06:49

u probably can through specific txt tiles

06:49

but im not sure how

06:49

@Im 'corneum didnt u do something similar

06:49

@ᶰ°Konͧsti

@ChillerDragon also bind pro I think

You can just bind binds iirc

I already did that (edited)

You want one key to rotate?

Yes

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Oh cmon I was typing it out, on a phone even :D

which config?

07:05

settings_ddnet.cfg

07:05

?

07:06

Or do I need to create a new file?

These would be two new files

Can I get a link so I can just copy everything?

X is normally dummy toggle so you might want a different key

07:08

@plsplsplslol gib link

rip i already closed it

07:12

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2537

I created these 2 files

07:15

what now?

exec "Deep Fly On.cfg"

07:16

then press x whenever you want to switch

Can i put it in settings_ddnet.cfg

07:17

I dont want to type it everytime I open the game

you only have to type it once

Thank you all so much

07:18

heartw

kek

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multimap is not friendly for big team 0 of noobs

they are stuck again at the next part

anyone can tell me how to do the hammer corner jumps?

hammer hook and jump at the same time

do i let go of the hook when i have them in the corner?

Can I just show you?

07:56

in game?

justatest

@Drago just try, when the tee is in the corner, you rehook and hammer at the same time and jump

i can sometimes do it but its very inconsistent

08:04

yea if you could sho me it would be great

@Moderator Kiz Fury afk blocking on multimap https://i.imgur.com/ahvNLeX.png

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You will get The Feeling for it Very fast If you do it a Couple of Times (: @Drago

we cant kick him everyone presses f4

noby ban him

people told me he already did it multiple times

08:11

even after kicking

welp accidentally close game again

08:16

is there any map mad for practicing this?

you have it in so many maps

newbee has a good place for it

is there a way to make it so my dummy hooks instead of hammer in hammerfly

i guess ill wait when newbee has less ppl

@Drago might as well try to play [School] Hammer, other than that this move is used in many maps its rare where you dont have to use it on novice maps at least

08:18

You can also connect dummy by pressing esc and top left, then join a team with /team 1-59 (edited)

-55?

what do teams do?

make it so you can only see who's on that team

Other players cant disturb your gameplay

oh perfect

you are only playing with people in that team

08:19

You can only join a team before startline btw

school hammer has some hard places tbh

yeah

@deen give me pro discord role so they can ask me stuff (:

newbee has good parts

@deen i agree with brokekdx, i think its good idea to make new channel smth like "questions/help" since there so much newcommers? im sure most of them just scared/shy whatever it called to ask it in general chat

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oh i think i got it feelsamazingman

feelsamazingman

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FeelsOkayMan

08:42

Also "lfg" (looking for group) might be useful.

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done

Lfg insane 400iq. Channels for different regions? China, usa, Germany? Or too much then idk

chinese players wont come here

09:22

and i prefer not

ye, make wechat ddnet server

u better be prepared

no need to separate germany usa etc

09:22

it would divide the community

09:22

@Lumpy ◐ω◑ they wont come, they have the great firewall

add asian chararacters

I guess a separate channel for different languages wouldn't hurt

actually dont

09:23

kinda funny seeing an army of boxes on chn servers

@daria that will be fixed soon

no need

09:23

just distinguish by the number of boxes

chinese players wont come here

@Ryozuki 50 cent army

09:24

kinda funny seeing an army of boxes on chn servers

@daria doesnt that mean your system / the software is missing the fonts required to view the characters?

no, we download all fonts we use

teeworlds uses its own font, so no

i remember seeing webpages full of blank squares until i downloaded the fonts

09:24

turns out it was just japanese

09:24

this was like years ago though

09:24

win xp / vista

fonts are downloaded with the client i believe

they are

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sendhelp

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gagagaga

u guys

hello

fairWave

heyho twitch guy feelsamazingman

feelsamazingman

fairLove

I'm having a blast with the game so far, so I figured it's time to take a peak under the hood so to speak

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heartw

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kek

Welcome to the community!

welcome

09:38

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welcome to DDraceNetwork, we have nouis and jao

nouis

09:38

tee_thinking

also zombie troll and konsti the ra_ist

thank you for having me, any tips for where to find better filters on difficulties of maps?

sylbot

banhammer

yah, and sylbot too xd

@LoopHule maps are divided by novice, moderate, brutal, insane, each category is divided by stars, from 1 to 5, 1 being easiest (edited)

nobyisthebiggesttroll

thank you for having me, any tips for where to find better filters on difficulties of maps?

just look on server type, average time of map finish and how much stars it have (edited)

you can go to a novice server and vote a random unfinished map, put 1 in the reason and it will only be 1 star maps

poggers

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There is also solo maps

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thanks that makes it easier to grasp

Dummy maps are also solo, but usually really hard

@Ryozuki i didnt know that lmao

lol

For now just do novice

also with regards to dummies, it is primarily a way to re-try a section or get yourself unstuck in case there's only two people on a map?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu-nvldx8Sk

DDNet Tutorial - Basic Guide for New Players

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nouis guide

Dummy is like a second player

cool

nouis

But you are the second player

does /practise work now?

With dummy you can solo complete almost any map if there are no players

*/practice?

yes

with /practice /r teleports you to the last safe spot if you are frozen

09:43

I think

ahh, so if I "disconnect" while on the dummy do I resume where it was?

I never used it

09:43

no

you should do /save <code>

If you are in a team in any map you can type /save to continue later

ahh okay

and also need to being in team

it doesnt work in /team 0

@LoopHule did you setup all dummy related keybinds?

09:45

you can find them in the controls menu

I have not, I will look over them shortly though for sure

ahh, so if I "disconnect" while on the dummy do I resume where it was?

@LoopHule yeah cause this quote made me confused. You can toggle between your main tee and your dummy tee at all times

09:46

ah nevermind, I just read it wrong

okay yeah that's what I was asking and realize now I phrased my question wrong

oh lol

dummy has its own disconnect button

the check box for fat skins does not change hitbox, just visuals right?

Exactly

Can anyone tell if the Korean server is ok for locals? @TsFreddie maybe you know? I see it sometimes having packet loss, but maybe that's only to Europe, then it would be fine

I don't actually know.

@LoopHule hey, watched the beginning of your stream, do you play escape from tarkov?

I do, and love it

wow me too, i didn't meet people who plays eft and ddrace

two my favorite games

can't say I have ever streamed it, although I probably have a few hundred hours in it now

i also got that game

10:12

but i play to much dota 2

dota

justatest

justatest

what country are you in Lumpy?

russia

dang, sadly I don't think we could get games in with the ping limit that was added

monkaS

yeah :c my buddies don't play that much anymore

10:14

monkaS

@Ryozuki wat

nouis

10:15

@Ryozuki wat

@Lumpy ◐ω◑ nothing rly xD

nouis

nouis

nouis

@louis nice video, you really should have used a key display though

yeah the video was well done, straight to the point on core features which was nice

@deen I've asked around and people from Korea doesn't seem to have any connection issues.

yeah

10:20

but the game has much more

10:20

poggers

You can learn something new even after years playing

@LoopHule the true key at the beginning is mastering the hook, u should be able to stay in air hooking for 1 hour

10:21

in brutal maps u will most of the time not touch ground

I've been playing for so long and only now started learning speedfly (edited)

what ryo xd

justatest

1 hour hooking justatest

justatest

@<BµmM> but its true

Lol easy

10:21

I can do that np

its not xf

@<BµmM> u and me would be able to stay in air hooking im sure

10:21

1 hour

Yes it is

yes

don't give me that face lumpy, we're all hookers here and we like it

poggers

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justatest

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but which brutal map do you mean xd

Put me in a box with freeze I'll do it

@Ryozuki what if u need to go pee?

@<BµmM> i mean, look at some brutal hard t0 maps

10:22

u are most of time hh or doing things in air

10:22

ground is a rare thing

10:22

i dont mean edge hook maps

ye okay xd

justatest

sounds like a fun challenge, I do plan on scoping out the harder difficulties tomorrow.. err.. today

well maybe 1 hour is a bit tro much

10:23

but 5 mins

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or 2

10:23

it would mean u can be normally

10:23

without effort

10:23

in air

i remember i learned that ur feet change color if you use double jump only like 1 year after started playing

at least 5

10:24

2 minutes is not enough (edited)

lumpy i learned that after 3 years xddd

what

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and then, u will reach a point were u can climb up a 1 tile unfreeze with hookable on sides

@<BµmM>

justatest

|x| |x| |x|

For me it was one of the first things I saw when started playing (edited)

Go play Gores, there you will for real rarely touch ground kek

kek

true

gores insane

gores suck

10:25

not fun

no u

soreu is a traitor

10:25

from ddnet to gores

what is KoG?

i always go beyond my mouse pad then i play gores

its like a big network like ddnet

king of gores

From toxicity to friendly place

but focuses on 1 type of map

I play gores sometimes. But they are only fun for the first 10-15 minutes (edited)

and I'm back playing more DDRace due to noobs being around

@LoopHule https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP505w3P0tM

Teeworlds - RingOfGores - Top1 - nealson T'nP, Roco and .:Mivv + Ne...

10:26

look gores!

10:26

its easy!

@legser4 That depends on the ppl you play with, like everything

u basically just use hook

It takes some thousand hours of practice to move this precisely with the hook

i actually improved my gores skills while playing on kog, its good for ddrace too (edited)

there are easy maps too, you only scaring ppl away @Ryozuki

troll

noby largest troll

@Ryozuki Vid of one of hardest maps, yay, so demotivating... or the other way around - go try getting as good

well kog is just hook and knowing how to save ppl

10:27

ddnet is more

kogsux

Kog is not easy (edited)

ddnet is stronghold

this kog guys just super pros

You still can't deny the fact, that skill from any other game mode are helpful in DDRace

@LoopHule https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuQHjuMk6eE this is what a hard map looks like in ddnet

Ghoul insane ★★★✰✰ - Kicker & Vendetta - TOP 1 ( Teeworlds , DDNet ...

yeah, solo/race helps a lot in improving ddnet skill

not to mention the fact that almost any filler part in maps is usually gores (edited)

@Ryozuki stop spamming

where is the spam

10:28

its just a video

10:28

chillout dude

DDracer can be a good kog player

Filler part*

Kog player won't be a good ddrace player from the start

Neither the other way around

cool good to know, and challenge doesn't scare me, it's knowing that a teammate is afraid that scares me

on both map types you need different skillset

better yet, a teammate is getting discouraged*

though knowing one helps learning the other

10:30

@LoopHule Best feeling if teammate leaves in middle of map...

@Soreu its better than he throws you on a kill tile

that first video makes so much more sense on the preview hook for the player stunned rather than the player shooting the hook

10:32

oh man yeah that would be rough having someone leave mid map

gores is boring af

Fun is very subjective, stop being judgmental

10:35

Some people enjoy the very tight gores. It's not for everyone

that is nuts, and yeah I don't know a single person (outside of this discord) that has the willpower to spend time beating gores fairLul

fairLul

3 days of playing and already ddrace ultra, nice poggers

poggers

10:37

@jao gores is just too hard for you lol

lol

botting is fun for some too but i can judge that too

10:38

@Lexin not easy server greenthing

greenthing

I don't even...

@Learath2 yea

Yes, all gores players are masochists, when they aren't playing gores they read macbeth while cutting their wrists

I know what you feel even without that message

@LoopHule i believe you havent seen a "kill tile" yet, they reset you to the start of the map. Some mappers are sadist enough to put these in the middle/close to the end of the map justatest

justatest

imagine running/falling into them

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wrong, I haven't read macbeth

who hasnt failed after 110 mins in a map

10:40

a experience you need

me

lmao

Kill tiles are the leading cause of people quitting ddnet. You just want to never touch it again after failing a 180min run on a stupid kill tile

A calm and slow playstyle is pretty much needed

yes having fun tryharding and failing at the end of a map is the experience we here for, thats the fun of it

cant fail 110min in if u never make it that far wesmart

wesmart

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200iq

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A calm and slow playstyle is pretty much needed

@Jenbak thats if ur not speedrunning

I would rather complete the maps first and then try speedrunning if I feel confident enough

10:41

Which I doubt I will be

I wonder if there are any emerging korean speedrunners gunning for our r1s yet

koreans are more good at things like sc2

10:42

micro management

10:42

ddnet is nothing like that

cope

also lately

10:42

a koreans arent winning

havent seen brokecdx on chinese/koreans srv recently, guess hes scared

dota 2 has no koreans too

inb4 perfect edge jumps

oh here we go, valve games again

whats wrong with it

10:43

dota has the biggest esports prize

10:43

im sure some korean was attracted

10:43

yet didnt made it through

@Learath2 they gonna edge killtiles like other ppl do freeze justatest

justatest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpLdBU2XLLY

Teeworlds - Adrenaline 4 fail

lol

4

10:44

250min

10:44

fail

ah

10:44

xD

10:44

press a?

hey guys I was wondering if it's possible to make like a GPS for the new player so they can see how they should play to pass the map, I just see people kinda trying to walk in the wall for 15 min straight and try to hook it

where is 2oo

saw him on gores a couple of times

@-ZurkyzTV- There is a client called ATH that has pathfinding using A*, though it doesn't work great for ddrace maps it works pretty great for gores

noath

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10:46

Maybe we could look into implementing something similar

don't let noby see that

10:46

2late

!!!

no please

I see what you mean that's not based on a player replay, what if you put two cp and you see the ghost of a player doing the part endlessly till he reach the next cp

I was thinking of letting people upload ghosts so that you can follow the rank 1 ghost for solo and race

10:49

but that doesn't really help with ddrace

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if ur going to start pulling features from ath maybe start with the translator

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use ddnet tab

Any reason why my friends ddnet looks like this even after reinstall?

@NovaShock is there any chance that you don't have a GPU?

@Lexin are the kill tiles often depicted as spikes or something else?

yes

@NovaShock is that the steam version?

Kill tiles are the leading cause of people quitting ddnet. You just want to never touch it again after failing a 180min run on a stupid kill tile

the main reason I don't play DDRace that it is all about a frustration. I don't have so much dopamine to overcome never ending series of fails

(edited)

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Have seen this with a couple very old integrated gpus on laptops

and so far you are correct, I have not had the honor of rage induced kill tile yet (edited)

novice maps dont have spikes usually

u can still fail

@Deleted User if you stick to easier maps you'll likely never encounter a 180 minute fail

@Learath2 im asking now and yes its through steam

or a griefer

@heinrich5991 a guy had that too, it doesnt matter that its steam

10:51

@heinrich5991 he fixed it reinstalling drivers

10:51

idk if its the same

was just wondereing whether it was a missing unpack for the zip

I've tried love message map yesterday. I think it's the easiest map possible

@heinrich5991 data missing usually looks much different though

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I could do it solo easily, but griefers made this way harder (edited)

10:52

There were some nice players, there were griefers, and players which just try to do just anything with a passing by tee (me)

@LoopHule welcome kek

kek

kek

kek

10:52

It was an honour to pkay with you yesterday

good helper

thank you

fairLove

it was very fun playing with you and others as well

@Deleted User if people are griefing (blocking?) u should ping a mod so they will be kicked

everyone I have come across has been quite welcoming which is nice to see

@noby I could yes. But I just wanted to see how is it going in regular way

We are trying to cover as many servers as we can but with the sudden burst of players (and servers) it's not easy to have staff on every server anymore

And absense of hook protection didn't helped

there is /team

does any DDRace servers even have a hook prot?

@LoopHule that is probably because everyone sees the fact that the community need more people

what is hook prot

I would like to pass a griefer by turning hp on rather than calling someone

i mean if u /team 1 and /lock then noone can hook u unless theyre in ur team

@Learath2 the weird thing is teeworlds always worked for her and then randomly it just started to look like that one day

@NovaShock reinstall drivers

10:55

gpu ones

@noby oh... is that supposed to be such complex?

alright ill tell

I've seen DDRace servers where just f4 worked

Might be easier to first try the client on the website on the off chance that it is some missing data folder

f4?

its not complex

hook protection by itself isnt a full solution anyway because u can block people without hooking them

@Learath2 it happend before the steam release thats why we tried again today cause of the steam version

by just standing in the way on purpose/hammering etc

Ah

hmmm... maybe it was a fng server?

10:56

or a infClass one?

@noby on infclass pressing f3 or f4 enables hook protection that prevents from getting hooked

@NovaShock yeah a gpu issue definitely then, she should give reinstalling drivers a try

my fng server has hookblock protection but it doesnt work in the way u think

10:56

ohh

I will definitely be playing more maps later today and trying to rope in some more of my friends

feelsamazingman

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I wonder if we could do hook protection, it'd be rather odd and I wonder if people could abuse it

hook prot also disables collision and hammer knockback

no pls

ask @ᶰ°Konͧsti

10:57

to see if its cheatable

definitely abusable

We definitely can't do disable collision and disable knockback, that's definitely abusable

10:57

tees being unhookable idk, maybe could be done

it's just player to player collision

u will just make it more confusing for players

but doesnt stop u from blocking

just call a moderator

@Deleted User tees being inside eachother is a baaad baad idea

disabled collision is abusable

it really feels like calling for a teacher in a class

or vote kick them

wont do that for sure

just join a ream

?????

He is talking about blocker map and you guys are talking about ddnet

maybe @DDNet will ping moderators on vote with "Block!" reeason?

Snitches don't get stitches here

why wouldnt u call a moderator when someone is blocking

will join now since I've learned that I can (edited)

Snitching is encouraged

learath, it sounds like if you disabled any of one of the three, all three should be disabled at the same time (edited)

for things like blocking yeah

nobody will say anything to u

He was on block server haah

troll

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in fact

10:59

u will be helping people

10:59

blockers here are despised

10:59

the pest

Playing copy love boz

noone likes people who block on purpose lol

is voting work if ~80% players are afk?

it tries to ignore afks

join team

im not sure how long the delay is

I was wondering whether we should give block more love or if it'd just attract too much ddos

true team does fix that from what I understand

@ipoopi https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/745960020721664021

it would probably attract more attacks but if ur going to do this then enabling auto client kick on block would be great lol

(which is very little)

cus right now those servers are just where people use and spread bots

stop doing these links, it doesnt work on mobile for me

@Deleted User ddnet server count only active players (edited)

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@ipoopi huh, odd, does work for me even on mobile

Banned for 10 minutes (Blacklisted by DNSLB) (edited)

why is it working on my phone?

@Jenbak VPNs are not allowed, if you are using a personal one I can whitelist it

discord on nokia 3110

Ah ok. Im using NordVPN so

maybe it's the OS your phone is on, because each OS has different features implemented

will diable it when playing I guess

11:01

will help with connection as well proablby

@gerdoe it definetely has role override, yeah?

i dont have an option to open in discord

@Jenbak Sorry, I'd love to let people use VPNs too but it just leads to some people being very annoying

@Learath2 what about a f1 password for people who need vpn?

you should check default applications list, You've accidentaly checked "open in chrome and never ask me again" I think (edited)

ive added this on fng and it seems to work pretty well

ye too lazy for now

@Deleted User about votes, or what?

@noby an f1 password would get leaked almost instantly, but we could maybe do accounts

i thought it would too

11:03

and ive told like 10 people the password

11:03

and afaik it hasnt been leaked yet lol

@gerdoe about everything. 3310 is a Chuck Norris of mobile app platforms

ahh xd

it can bypass anything

idk maybe something like ddnet it would

@noby I mean we've had entire rcon passwords leak, I'm sure a measly vpn bypass would get leaked instantly

11:03

too many moving parts in ddnet

(once you've disassembled the firmware and embedded a discord client into it)

troll

1

true ..

11:04

rip

11:04

would be cool tho

11:04

or maybe if there was a way to give everyone their own password

Yep, I'll think about it

then if it gets leaked u can just disable theirs + know who leaked it

@Learath2 imagine LDAP for rcon

11:05

for centralized auth

Imagine just having accounts

11:06

It's been on the roadmap for like 5 years now

how would it work

inot client has account system support o.o (edited)

accounts?

troll

(here we go again :D)

feelsamazingman

1

lol

2

xd

oh no

I've been looking at decentralised solutions for a while, but if we give up on that, I can get you one in about 15-20 minutes

Auth services could be decentralized and supplemental like Auth services in IRC are

auth in irc is centralize

11:08

d

It's not, cause whole IRC is federated

It is

every net chooses it's own services

11:09

or not to have any

IRC isn't really federated either

11:09

can't chat from one network to another

11:09

unlike say e.g. email

You as an irc client, can't authenticate another client. Nor can another network authenticate a client

ok, decentralized then

11:10

cause every net installs it's own auth services

11:10

like nickservice, channelservice etc

but you authenticate with a central authority belonging to the server "nickserv" in freenode

11:10

Q in quakenet

so there could be a SaaS with open code that could be used as self-hosted too

you can't authenticate with your gmail, or facebook account

11:11

or anything but a freenode account

@Learath2 I was net coordinator of some small IRC networks, I know how it is working (edited)

so it's centralized, the auth

oh by the way, apparently Twitch did not have a category for DDrace two days ago when I first streamed it, but there was one yesterday when I launched the stream

You could used teeworlds

thanks to me

yes

2

11:12

it appeared in twitch

11:12

i did the dirty work

nice, thank you

@Ryozuki what did you do

what did you have to do? I looked around and didn't see a way

I have some vague plans on doing some tw/DDnet services

register on giant bomb add a wiki entry with ddracenetwork and some infos

fairLove

1

11:12

its also on youtube now

Anyway, I wanted a configuration where clients would have an identity that they can use to authenticate against any server or client

Cause once I've implemented stats system and auth system on my server I could make it publicly available so other server owners could use it

11:13

and it will be opensource and separated from tw/ddnet code cause it is using econ

11:13

there are many solutions already I know, but no SaaS for that

11:13

for less experienced server owners

I like the idea of no collision anywhere in the map troll

troll

shotgun1

shotgun2

troll

4

troll

6

troll

4

ghosty

Asymmetric cryptography satisfies this requirement but it's not trivial to get it into a format that's easy to use by users that don't care for recovery codes that are 30 words long

if this will be widely used then users will certanly care for recovery

We could probably devise a plan if we could all just sit and discuss options for an hour or so

a plan for what exactly

nouis

11:19

nouis plan

extremenouis

3

nouis

@noby an account system

My plan was to implement services and then announce it

so anyone could join and test them (edited)

wouldnt it work like the existing servers that already have accounts with /login and /register

I want something everyone can use, not just some ddnet specific account system. That's trivial to implement anyway

me omw to claim cors name

@Learath2 how about rcon logins?

@Learath2 sinse I am migrating from 0.7 codebase to ddnet one I want to make it compatible.

Ah, I just remembered how all of these discussions end. The old guard will come along and complain about ranks being lost

like how we staff log in but it would log u as a player korunkaThonk

korunkaThonk

stats system will rely on econ only and will use papertrail as log engine

11:24

auth system will have a tiny SDK apparently: a small lib for ddnet and tw

That's why we don't have an account system, not because I never figured it out. It's because the old guard will make you want to poke your own eyes out before wanting to implement any change that upsets them.

@Learath2 it's for modders. Anyone could just apply a diff and copy one lib before compiling.

ohh yeah the teerace auth system

delete all ranks except my grandpa r1 and we are ok troll

troll

where everyone gets their own auth key

using the /map in the game chat, is there a way to get specifically solo or dummy maps? or would I have to look elsewhere for good options?

Also I could make binary builds ofc

@LoopHule to use /map you need to know the name of the map. I don't see how it's very useful in finding maps

11:26

You can vote for a solo server from "Call Vote" menu and then browse the entire collection

ahh okay

Pro-tip: If you put the number of stars you want in the reason before calling "Random map" it'll give you a random map with the requested difficulty

ahh sweet, thank you

i played this game for 8+ years and didnt know that

+

@Lwai Yeah we are not the best at advertising these things

just look at the source code

same lol

lol

lol

1

just look at the source code

just go to the factory to see what this food is made of troll

troll

my pineapple made in factory lmao lol

lol

yep

11:32

a PineAppleFactory one (edited)

11:33

which inherits from a TrirdWorldCountrySoil ofc (edited)

idk if this smile crying, laughing or raging lol

lol

yes

3

11:34

it is

11:36

oh come on, yes, you're right: it is crying, laughing or raging smile

11:37

made to be universal all-in-one solution for emotions that's hard to discriminate (edited)

Explaining jokes is a bad bad idea

yep

yep, but I've waited for those

to dissapear and transform to lol

lol

s (edited)

lol

6

11:38

but it didn't happened (edited)

@LoopHule if you want to train your movement i would recommend you to play on the race server, these maps are usually very short and not faily and you can try improving your time each time u race it:D

11:45

race server is for solo play aswell, you wont need a mate

good to know

11:46

is random an actual feature or is every map selected by name?

wym an actual feature?

what do you mean exactly? you can vote each map individually, but if you dont want to bother looking through the map listings you can just vote a random one and play it.

Oh hey @LoopHule :D you found the discord

I did, first link I found was old but the second one worked well. Nevermind on the random map question, I will just roll with what's picked

11:51

thank you for passing my stream link around earlier @maggi323 fairLove

fairLove

ᘛ⁐ᕐᐷ

koreans already playing moderate justatest

justatest

really?

@Lexin can you tell if the server is ok for them?

@deen https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/745950220071862272

asked one player, he said its very good (edited)

Ok in a week they will already be in the top5

no

12:08

that's me

who

i gave up but will try again tomorrow

justatest

3

seems like DDNet just made Teeworlds an asia game feelsamazingman

feelsamazingman

lol

troll

2

yes'

hey

happy

heartw

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im a jugando

Spanish pro

I guess we are reaching the peak just like these last days, so close to 1k (edited)

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not even weekend justatest

justatest

I just hope some of these new people will stick around

Pls more europeans

ddrace is probably the best mode to start from on teeworlds

need 128 pl server for chn

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4

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justatest

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feelsamazingman

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catJAM

oof

banhammer

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bantw

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banhammer

3

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@Learath2 maybe now is the right time to implement the accounts and don't bother how the old gaurd reacts. Atleast i wouldn't care, but that is probably because i dont have ranks pepeH

pepeH

(edited)

2

2

5

What will happen with my /points if accounts get implemented (edited)

13:38

and my time on maps and other stuff

anti nick faking solution btw

13:40

just will appear to the your account lmao @legser4

@Learath2 ever considered to make /rankold and /rank. So people from before now can still showoff and people who start today can actually have an account

yes

13:41

But all that staff needs to be transfered from my nickname to my account

@n000b no offense, but thats really stupid

Ikr

13:42

But having no accounts is also really stupid (edited)

+1 for implement account for DDNET

CatJam

nouis

5

I'd like an accound on DDNET

13:43

But implemeting it will be really weaird and there a lot of questions

not weird but hard

Im getting reminded of "Everybody Edits" now whwn playing this

cuz it cause all database copying

13:43

in new database with another arch (edited)

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poggers

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Everything must transfered

13:44

But how do they know that someone with my name is actually my nickname

13:45

I'm also sure there are people with identical nicknames

13:45

Which one of them should take all data?

they can save old db and hook it with steam

13:45

or with their acc system

im the real cyberfighter since im a troll

cybertroll

13:45

appeared

13:45

hey

nooon (edited)

why do you think they will make nickname based db?

13:46

login-pass

13:46

and nickname will be as non-relevant thing

./login noby biggesttroll

idk

13:47

If it gets implemented I have no idea how to get proof of who is who

discord

13:47

and also they can save old ranks

13:48

and new will be account based (edited)

13:48

btw, idk too greenthing

greenthing

@n000b That's the only feasible option anyway, keep an old ladder and a new ladder

make a seasonal leaderboard where you need accounts maybe

That might make it more palatable to the old guard

i dont think accounts are super necessary for just points

14:04

maybe we could create accounts for top5 plays?

cmon we had this discussion a ton of times (edited)

just make seasonal leaderboard which shows the best speed players in the past 3 months and require accounts so if someone

s then u can ban their account

idk if anyone would mind that

14:06

there just way too many maps for it no?

maybe it could be based on all the new maps in the 3 months so ppl dont just grind top5 on old maps they already know

Stfu

14:12

Accounts are shit

14:12

and useless

1

why are they shit and useless

ur all fcking nonames, dont tell me you care about being faked

ok so explain why they're shit and useless

why wouldnt they

i love when people fake me on ddnet cus then i get free points

nobyisthebiggesttroll

2

14:12

feelsamazingman

feelsamazingman

1

@ᶰ°Konͧsti yea accounts are shitty

troll

nobyisthebiggesttroll

its not like u can make someones stats worse on ddnet

well if u cant explain your point of view then why should we listen to u

we explained it 12347i9193478times already

you're the one who want to change something that was discussed in 7 years and there were reasons

ok so what were the reasons

14:14

i wasnt there

14:14

i just wanna know

No need to warm up this discussion again and again

u wont tell me?

14:14

i honestly dont know the arguments and wasnt there

@noby I saw SP | Someone did fake noby acc

@louis https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/745966595527934022

banhammer

banhammer

what's old guard @heinrich5991

people like @ᶰ°Konͧsti

u are lying louis

oh

u had this discussion on 24.6

i was there during one argument @ScReeNy but all everyone said was "accounts shit" without any reason

14:15

other than "its hard to transfer"

The most players are old guards

which wasn't what i was talking about

your idea doesnt need accounts either

well it doesnt hurt to implement for botters

maybe make a vote

the only reason i hear why we should have accounts is faking other players

@louis and there's a couple of other priorities rn, steam and proper support for asian languages

botters wil just keep making more accounts lol

There are like 3 people that are famous and actually care about being faked

ye im not trying to push for accounts im saying its not a bad idea

@noby great, easy way to filter out botted top5

But all the people that say accounts pretend faking players are nonames

is it tho?

why care about botted ranks, there are tons illegal ranks and if they get reportet nothing happens

@noby people with few points having top5? easy lead to investigate

not like that would change

that or just people making smurf accounts because they want to play hidden

well if theres illegals ranks ofc they should be fixed

14:17

idk how admins handle it

they dont

xd

lifeban botter with ip ban

1

except its by me

^

Making accounts is like getting rid of cash

they should do that

it should be exponential time ban not insta lifeban

@<BµmM> wait until you learn about dnynamic IPs

account's login can be non-equal to nickname, isnt it

then it's just a day-long ban

14:18

@gerdoe yes

they tell u its for safety and against criminals but in the end its just stupid control and players get lifebanned for some shit they wrote in the chat

dynamic ip makes it harder but if u save ips u can begin to guess what ranges someone is going to have

and ranks will show with login

and implement rangebans if normal ipbans dont work

thats illegal tho

also obviously this shouldnt be used for people who are obnoxious in chat

14:18

eh is it

@noby why shouldn't IP bans be used for people who can't behave in chat?

Because its dumb

just mute

i dont believe in that

Only sjw do that

mute exists

by eu privacy law it is

srv mute

@noby fine, I guess we have different opinions there

heinrich would ban anyone with an other opinion than his

@ScReeNy can u show me the law that actually says a game server cant store player ips for a bit of time to help protect against cheaters?

also nouis when someone said n-word and mod banned him from map: brownbear

brownbear

i know gdpr exists but i also heard there are exceptions to it

@ᶰ°Konͧsti obviously not, otherwise you ouldn't be on this discord server

jk

for a bit time yes, but it wasnt long

eh imo u could ban someone who is repeatedly obnoxious but not f or just a 1-time thing

1

stop saying stupid stuff @ᶰ°Konͧsti

He just pretends always its about how u say it but actually it is what u say

i think ddnet saves 3 days

@heinrich5991 yes i think we have a different opinion about this, i only use lifeban for people who ruin the game or cheat

14:20

where does it say 3 days is the limit?

14:20

(the law, not ddnet policy)

@noby I wasn't talking about lifebans there, just bans

ah

14:20

i meant life/ range

14:21

i still think chat should be dealt with by mute not ban tho

but exponentially longer bans for people who can't behave is fine by me, too

why do u need mods to enforce chat language

14:21

Community can deal that on their own

thonk

i mean if someone is just flooding chat constantly with WWWWWWW and hiding the left half of ur screen

because I don't like people getting insulted, e.g. for being new

it seems fair to mute them

GDPR is very tricky, I doubt any of us here can completely understand all it's implications. I thiiiink (using that very loosely) as long as we don't associate it with personally identifying information, we are in the clear.

ye

Who insults for being new

14:22

Only blockers would do thaz

@ᶰ°Konͧsti there are people who do that

rude people

blockers

not just blockrs

trolls

people who take the game too seriously /are selfish to help new players

u cant assume the whole community is just like u konsti

yeah, trolls

no trolls have a kodex

14:23

Bullying poor nobos isnt

contex/durex imo

no trolls have a kodex

14:24

Nice end of conversation

i just played a 3* novice map with edgejumps in the filter

justatest

3

Btw why there are so many new chinese server lol

for chinese players

cuz so many chinese players appeared

edge jumps meaning

Was playing learntoplay on CHN big lag but big fun

u have to land on the edge of freeze tile?

Yes

how is that novice

14:26

wtf

cuz some DDRace nobos like noby have a tool for it

14:26

nobyisthebiggesttroll

no proof

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qDyT9Ev9fqvIsoLUsXLMKAYaXQs9gjRqt5HOgtuL5RM/edit?usp=sharing

novice rerate thing

Sheet1 Map Name,Current Rating,Revised Rating,Rerated By,Notes: Tsunami Orion Sunny Side Up LearnToPlay Geneque WTF Diamond Mine Bullets Camouflage Cartoon Goo! Hoo! Icebreaker Introduction Kobra Kobra 2 Kobra 3 Kobra 4 Planet Mars Planet Venus Tiny Tandem Ice Water Little Fo...

14:27

someone rerate all novices

what is that?

a list of all novices

u should add the rate atm

its currrent rating

I see

14:31

I cant write words xd

it says u did

14:36

also plz add notes

14:36

explanations of rerating

im waiting for the moment when all ddnet's servers will be full and another players will go to xpanic or 0.7 feelsamazingman

feelsamazingman

feelsamazingman

feelsamazingman

xpanic sucks

u

14:37

but yes

theres nothing you can learn from xpanic

current xpanic hardcoded peace of shit based on ddnet9

except for binding commands

14:38

lol

14:38

bind mouse1 "+fire; say /upgr handle"

lmao, we have cmd /upgr handle <amount>

14:41

also /upgr <stat> <amount>

xpanic = mafia city

14:46

troll

@Moderator afk block map 176.9.114.238:8302

1

14:48

name DragenmanHD

You all failed there, wasn't really him lol

someone rerate all novices

@louis always the easy way to ask, not to accomplish

@heinrich5991 I got ddrace from steam. I copied the data folder from that to the ddnet-maps directory.

yes ping @heinrich5991 for no fucking reason

Wait, what?

cellegen stfu

lol

1

14:51

wtf

wtf?

Ignore cellegen, he is special

troll

5

@NeoVizard dont mind him

Aight

‍♂️

Ignore cellegen, he is special

kek

14:52

all i did was ping @heinrich5991 , why the hate?

cellegay

@NeoVizard what is it you were having a problem with?

Getting this in the log when I try to run the server from ddnet-maps: [sql]: failed to open wordlistheinrich replied to me yesterday so I pinged him (edited)

@NeoVizard pinging me is fine, especially so if I answered you once already

heartw

2

14:55

can you post the whole log?

14:55

to e.g. https://paste.mozilla.org/

https://paste.mozilla.org/BruX2aqE

u need the wordlist file i think

14:58

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/data/wordlist.txt

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - ddnet/ddnet

It's in the data folder tho

@NeoVizard that's not the complete log

14:59

it doesn't show the added paths

14:59

those come before "[server]: starting..."

tru

That was the entire autoexec_server.log

hmmmm

Hang on I moved wordlist.txt out to the same directory as the server exe and it worked

okay

tee_thinking

but it doesn't do this when I run it from the ddrace directory. Is there some path I need to set for the wordlist in some config? (edited)

u mean steam ddrace or downloaded?

steam

they dont have sql enabled i think

we now have sql everywhere

:o

just not mysql everywhere

15:02

sqlite as fallback

15:02

@NeoVizard does a console open when you open the server?

Yup

ah, but it immediately closes because the server goes down?

Yes

but you managed to start it somehow. can you give us a screenshot from the beginning of the log in the console?

15:03

on a successful start

Sure thing

15:05

https://paste.mozilla.org/V7OhV1m0

that's the log in the console?

This is the autoexec_server.log but yeah I think it's the same thing

there are probably a few more messages in the beginning in the console

15:06

I'm looking for these

You're right stuff from the beginning part is missing (in the log file) (edited)

15:08

https://paste.mozilla.org/OBCXndnh

Odd that it doesn't complain about not finding a data dir

try adding add_path $DATADIR to your storage.cfg

15:13

between $USERDIR and $CURRENTDIR

15:13

@NeoVizard

Yes! added that path and moved the wordlist back to the data directory. The server is up

15:19

[2020-08-20 20:48:03][storage]: added path '$USERDIR' ('C:\Users\nprab\AppData\Roaming/Teeworlds')
[2020-08-20 20:48:03][storage]: added path '$DATADIR' ('data')
[2020-08-20 20:48:03][storage]: added path '$CURRENTDIR' ('C:\Users\nprab\Downloads\games\ddnet-maps')

nice

15:21

I added it so that it won't be a problem in the future: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-maps/commit/c3ac25211199b633ae42a3d84681224e0a583050

Add $DATADIR to storage.cfg · ddnet/ddnet-maps@c3ac252

Would have helped NeoVizard#0488 on Discord.

15:21

thanks for helping us find that @NeoVizard

feelsamazingman

2

yes you the real mvt @NeoVizard

poggers

is it hard to make multi-envelopes for quads? (just asking)

15:35

with old map support

@ScReeNy about the illegal rank deleting. Lately we removed a lot of ranks

15:44

"lot"

15:45

If you tell one of the moderators. We can verify the ranks and we can tell the admins to delete it since they didn't have the time to verify ranks.

15:46

Didn't/don't

i even did a startline skip with admin and they didnt fix nor deleted cheated r1

Cause admin did benefit from it too kek

kek

(edited)

15:48

I got no idea. I think there are things more important then this. So they can't spend time on this. It would be better if you just fixed the maps instead of cheating them

15:48

Then you solve the problem instead of creating ones

okay give me access to maps and i fix justatest

justatest

The problem with this is i am pretty sure you ruined your reputation already and they won't trust you pepeH

pepeH

feelsbadman

2

im just too passionate about ddnet..

Wow @ScReeNy

what

1

once you find the start line skip do you use dummy to cross the start when the rest is at finish and then you disconnect the dummy?

hi, which map is better for beginners ?

thats part of it

go perma novice

thanks

@eujax definetly stay in perma novice for a while until you think you are good enough for higher rated novice maps. when you've reached that point you can also try to play some 1star dummy or 1star solo maps (edited)

avoid old looking maps cuz theyre often misrated and not fun

16:03

i dont think there are any ones like that on perma novice

@murpi is ok noobaltime undlock bot map

I still don't understund what you want, even if you type it here.

ger2 ddos?

yes

2

is ok noobaltime undlock bot map

1

Yea

fuck

@deen can you guys delete one of my creation post on Steam? "After a short wait of 5 years" was the name (edited)

I don't understand you @Cellegen | HU

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16:25

that

can't you delete it yourself?

16:26

go to your profile, then click on artwork and delete it there

i can't cuz it seems like i have no interaction with them

16:26

.-.

16:26

i can report myself tho

what?

kek

16:27

nvm i did it

lol

wait, you guys cannot delete posts?

16:28

monkaS

zombietoad

im sure deen can but why should he if you can do it yourself

16:28

wait wtf

16:29

it's still there

16:29

even if i deleted one of them

probably takes awhile to update since you can't click on it anymore

there is no second picture anymore

16:29

idk what's going to happen

patience

i just finished work

16:30

i would fucking kill myself on the bed to feel good when sleeping

I was told to join this while I was live

16:38

So uh hi

hi

pog

Hi

kek

feelsamazingman

Welcome!

hi

@ratuple Thanks for the donation!

what

3

PepeClap

6

heartw

1

Can requests be posted here? I request a skin of the ogre of Oldshivermountain.

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lmaoo

17:26

Etzalla reichds!!!

Runna von meim Grundstügg ihr Haiderasozialen!

20€ and i make u a skin of that

ur always free to create skins :)

@ScReeNy it's probably not the best picture of the ogre

I just started to watch Haiders playing the Drachengame irl and its super funny

17:27

Im a level 1 Haider now

17:27

Im gonna visit the Drachenschanze

konsti u untermensch

1

ahahahhaa nice xD

17:28

Konsti, schau das Besuchsvideo vom Oreider. Der war Klasse.

17:29

If I make a skin of the ogre, will it be added to the official skin database if it's good enough so anyone can add it to their client?

no

i dont think xx

a pity

Especially since DDNet is going to license their skins

17:30

Doubt the Ogre will give

license skins

17:30

what

You can still make skins, but they will never be added to the official ddnet version if it's copyrighted content

the ogre is not copyrighted, and there are many good caricatures with his nest hairdo to which he has even less copyright.

you can also add the skins to the database I think, but the steam version of ddnet will never come with these skins

17:34

if you want more precise information regarding the licensing and copyrighted material, you probably should ask deen

@murpi Does DDNet have to pay for the game to appear on Steam? Does Steam host the client files or do you have to host them yourselves?

yeah, defintely ask deen these questions

he probably signed an NDA xD

I can't answer these, sorry

it's okay. the ogre is not copyrighted.

i would question if it hits ddnet standards tho

Has steam always been so incredible trash? its down all the time..

@ScReeNy no

17:54

its weird for steam to be down

17:55

https://steamstat.us/

Displays status of Steam client, Steam store, Steam community, Dota 2, TF2 and CSGO

17:55

smth big must be happening

every time i check community tab it dies

17:55

lets go epic store

SOMEONE READ THE DDOS STEAM MESSAGE

Anyone here playing on 100%volume? I don't think so. Maybe 50% volume default?

im always at minimuim volume

Volume 2 here

100%

if you rape your ears its still rape @plsplsplslol

only when someone /earrape

17:59

whats your computer volume outside of teeworlds

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18:00

This should be default blob.png

i could make some pony artwork if you want?

I want

doing a pony ddnet logo was on my list anyway

Anyone know what salami is?

@ScReeNy iraq lobster pony

@Croat its persian way to say hi

oh ok

18:03

thanks

no, DDNet dont have to pay for being on Steam

Konsti has to pay for being on ddnet

u

18:19

i paid chile when i was banned

Chilli (edited)

enji is the largest troll

nobyless tee

i am the nobiest

no i

Gonna call ww police on you and he will confiscate all your kids

justatest

alucoHi

@ScReeNy you got another furry here!

alucoSIP

19:03

I just started playing, i'm playing in a learning map, didn't know what to expect from this tbh but it looks very fun

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19:03

it is!

Is there a channel for find people to play with or do i just request here in general

And u are missing the best part yet: there are a lot of pony skins!

Welcome @Kaarel

Yeah i'm... not interested in those lol

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Cheers

alucoL

ahah

U can just ask people in-game too. If you spot somebody nice with similar skill - go ahead and ask

19:05

Also some people were using the steam group stuff

play fng xd

I never use steam groups

19:06

Might aswell change server

Most of the times you will find people to play with on the server.

Yes, you can just search for a server with nice people, but of course you can also ask here, but i think ingame you have better chances :)

Well idk if you guys ever VC here but, i can do that too

you missed tournament

19:15

we had 7-10 ppl in voice

I meant for playing and stuff

19:19

ANyway

so, sometimes we have couples of players that playing with vc

Aight

ddweeb

ddweed

weed

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19:35

nouis

DDon't

DDuck

♂️ DDstick finger in my ass♂️ (edited)

GWslippyPeepoW

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justatest

justatest

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Yeah

petition to rename deen to DDeen

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ddnet = deen deen net

ddeennet

massive bomb mod play rn on us server

:O

19:46

Bomb best mod

19:46

Ghost cool too

are the servers being ddos?

@garry

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No it's probably a lot of concurrent players

no its definitely ddos

19:47

it seems to have stopped from that screenshot

19:48

but 20min ago big attacks

surprisedpikachu

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Deen ding net

19:48

Ding ding

Yeah SA servers completely down

Ddosnet

DDnet not updating on steam?

i think deen has to push it seperately on steam as well

rip

@ratuple Thanks for the donation!

@deen Thanks for contributing to a great game that has been a great part of my childhood^^

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Interesting

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mac sucks

You cant do sv_map on lan server?

yes u can

how then xd

what dosnt work

it has to be in ur maps/ folder

ur map must be in ur maps folder

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20:25

I cant do commant

20:25

command

Lmao

20:25

u need to login to f2

oh xd

2

20:26

sry

justatest

Im dumb

XD

Can you team with a single person so you can only collide with that player?

-/team 1-59

Ah i see

-/lock to lock it

20:44

-/invite to invite players to the team

when you invite they can join even if locked

pepesweat

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Hm

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Yeah no one accepts alucoSad

alucoSad

you didnt invite me

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qDyT9Ev9fqvIsoLUsXLMKAYaXQs9gjRqt5HOgtuL5RM/edit#gid=0

Novices Map Name,Current Rating,Revised Rating,Rerated By,Notes: Tsunami,1,2,Konsti,slightly complex parts, usage of weapons Orion,5,5,louis Sunny Side Up,3 LearnToPlay,2,3,louis,difficult ceiling shuffles at start, many drag parts, usage of weapons Geneque,4 WTF,4 Diamond Mi...

20:57

if u ever play a novice map with nobos and see its way too hard for its star rating, maybe try filling it out here

20:57

if theres ever a decision to do mass rerates maybe we could compile a list as a community

could the solo part at the start of the map "Introduction" be removed? its not trivial to get out of it, many new players get lost there. this way it doesn't really fit the Novice (perma) group

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idk if u can just remove stuff from maps unless its buggy

21:19

just take it out of novice perma

21:19

i agree its wayy too hard

since it doesn't affect the gameplay of the map itself, i think it could be edited

21:20

same would go for the map candyland

21:20

solos at the start of a novice perma maps arent really acceptable imo

21:21

ah, same goes for "Basics"

21:21

why does goldmine even have a solo at the start? it serves no purpose

21:21

(going through the perma list rn)

sry xd

f3 add tangerine and linear to perma novice

@<BµmM> would be okay with having the solo removed?

ofc

no change maps

xd

nice :)

but i dont think we can change stuff like that

not sure, since ddnet is currently peaking in popularity and the perma basics maps are the ones most newbies will join first

@plsplsplslol tangerine and linear are almost solo maps

21:28

Inure should be the next release

21:29

since it's super easy and teaches a lot

yeah its supposed to be even easier than other novice maps

@plsplsplslol join me

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flw

Anyone knows Just2Easy? There's a spot where i just get softblocked all the time

pecat

21:49

Where

I'll send a screenshot when i get there

jsut2easy not learn2play

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No way to get him from there

22:14

And i guess it's easy to happen for new players

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Actually its possible

22:26

With movehook

22:27

Or with freezehook

Kobra and multimap should be removed from novice perma servers

u

22:27

multimap shouldnt

Or with freezehook

@ᶰ°Konͧsti 2player in a team

HMM

in team0 you can hammer from below

multimap is the perfect novice map

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Not when you’re completely new first time joining server

There are even perma novice servers

Impossible to figure it out without some sort of experienced player

22:28

Especially later parts

There are reasons why multimap is so famous

22:29

It is fine as first map

22:29

nobos dont care that much about finishing

22:29

They have fun

No konsti, when i see how people are starting, and what movement they got, multimap is definitely not the best starting map

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And yes, it's not about finishing, but not getting further for more than 10 mins directly at the beginning makes them rq

I’ve seen many USA players quit over the past few days because they can’t figure out some of the parts

tbh even learntoplay is too hard for them

there is no part on multimap where u cant get help by better players (edited)

damn this discord is hella active

We can just all agree, that we didn't think of so easy maps before steam release, so we don't have perfect newbie maps

people playing kobra learntoplay and sunnyside up

22:31

im bored already

22:31

i want to see more activ server

Multimap isnt an easy map but its the perfect and cult novice map

i want to see more activ server

@xanax This will happen in a few days, when nobos are getting better and understand the server system

i hope

22:32

its sucking the life out of mer

22:32

help

22:32

i already played 200 hours on my hentai acc and 2 hrs on my main acc

22:33

dude god bless steam for making cheap ass games

Multimap isnt an easy map but its the perfect and cult novice map

@ᶰ°Konͧsti But before ddnet on steam, most people started on other gamemodes and maps than ddrace, so they got used to the controls before getting on multimap by accident

29 cents for hentay

Does the steam version hide vanilla servers?

no

22:34

But it searches for novice

so yes

you will get on a novice server when you first start the game yes

Most older players started DDrace after getting mechanics from other gamemodes

22:35

Multimap is a great map for people like that

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22:35

But for players who don’t know how to hook and hammer it’s a bit frustrating

2

22:35

People who just got the game and don’t even get the concept yet

its not

I remember playing the regular game modes such as ctf on ctf5 for an entire year before finding the server filters

I played it with super beginners even before steam release and they just had fun

We can ask people like @LoopHule how it is to start with ddnet, cause he is playing for 3 days straight and is in this discord

They had fun because they had an experienced player who showed them what to do

I played it with super beginners even before steam release and they just had fun

@ᶰ°Konͧsti but idk about the majority

People who just got the game and don’t even get the concept yet

@daria I don't agree with this quote

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Thats the point of multimap yes

22:39

its perfect for nobos to play with a good player

We could also maybe make broadcasts in a few days with the request to fill out a form on ddnet.tw that asks, what the most enjoyable maps were, how much the person played, and text fields so they can say what they liked, and what they would improve

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@ᶰ°Konͧsti speaking of USA in particular, there aren’t enough experienced players for each team to go around, and also our servers are very diverse with English and Spanish speakers

22:41

Hard to communicate and walk them through it a lot of the time

except for the fact we simply have way to many trolls which would skew the results

a novice tournament in 2-3weeks would be funny

worst time after 2 hours wins

xD

And even showing examples, players don’t understand because a lot of them are braindead monkaplushie

monkaplushie

22:42

Idk about Germany/other servers though so I won’t speak for those

They cant even read

yes

22:44

send help to USUA

22:44

too many newbies

22:44

also release easy maps like

22:45

the novices in testing

Americans are idiots

I think anyone that has a grasp on 2D platformers can very much get the hang of it in less than an hour of play

22:45

At least i did idk

22:46

Can't talk for everyone i guess

Charles, you are 1 out of hundreds

so much better than EVERYONE else i've seen those last days

Well i just got good at super mario i guess

Yes, thats defintely true. I had about 4 or 5 people who learned surprisingly fast because they've played platformers before

nobos dont even move the mouse while hooking

@maggi323 I created a highlight of the first run I completed where I was actually taking point with my friends in solving the map on Sunny Side Up. It was a perfect map for newbies with half of a brain

Well i just got good at super mario i guess

@Kaarel i also played many platformers and am always surprised how people can't do stuff, but when it's like your first platformer or smth it can be really tricky

@Ryozuki USA players can’t figure out how to switch weapons

I see

@maggi323 I created a highlight of the first run I completed where I was actually taking point with my friends in solving the map on Sunny Side Up. It was a perfect map for newbies with half of a brain

@LoopHule Nice, link? I also think that sunny side up is maybe the best newbie map we have atm (edited)

I also remember playing stuff from newgrounds like 2D shooting games, that was fun

22:49

I think Soldat was making a comeback on steam

22:49

I tried that one but not my cup of tea

I threw it in #showroom

ty

oh sup loophule

fairWave

@LoopHule you will be the savior of usa servers

fairWut

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You figured out how to hook things in that vod

22:53

Better than half of usa

also his first stream shows the thinking process of how the controls work really well, even though you have to consider, that he is better than most people (edited)

thing is new players who get used to the mechanics can start teaching completely new players the basic mechanics, which is nice

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nobies

Why no noby emote

W', the void where the grapple goes diagonal through blocks? Or just the stun blocks in general?

Just how to click the right mouse button

lol

Ohh yeah haha

bony

23:01

@daria we do have noby emote: troll

troll

Honestly when I have been playing I keep thinking, what about just hopping into a team.. but the chaos of everyone helping and accidentally getting in the way is too much fun for me

yeah it really is

Loophole will finish heartcore II with dummy in 1 month

Honestly when I have been playing I keep thinking, what about just hopping into a team.. but the chaos of everyone helping and accidentally getting in the way is too much fun for me

@LoopHule That's why even the pros have so much fun on the novice servers atm

it can be annoying at times, so when i wanna make a good time ill join a team

Loophole will finish heartcore II with dummy in 1 month

@ᶰ°Konͧsti loophule and charles, the prodigies

@LoopHule btw you should check out Aoe on youtube, he is probably the most famous teeworlds player

23:03

almost 3k subscribers, but inactive recently, i heard rumors hes gonna make a new pros play soon tho monkaS

monkaS

Aoe is random nobody

no u

u

23:03

nobody nobody yt channel is the real shit

u

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23:04

sub to my channel troll

troll

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I'll keep that in mind, welp I have to go prep for some stuff tonight feel free to @ me with questions I will get back to them. Have a good one guys fairWave

fairWave

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I did

I'll keep that in mind, welp I have to go prep for some stuff tonight feel free to @ me with questions I will get back to them. Have a good one guys :fairWave:

@LoopHule good luck on your dice rolls!

I am not the one who needs luck fairEvil

fairEvil

23:06

It's the poor saps in my coliseum

anyways have fun

@ᶰ°Konͧsti dont promote bots here kek

kek

@noby then dont create them kek

kek

why not

only a trol would do that

no

Oh wait

it was a fun coding project

23:11

not trolling

only a trol would do that

@ᶰ°Konͧsti onby a troll would do that*

lmao

23:11

im not a trolll

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nobyisthebiggesttroll

because a very large size troll made this site not show up properly on safari

23:13

because he knew i use safari

23:13

and wanted to me look like atroll

no

23:15

Its just

23:15

Trolls cant see

23:15

nobyisthebiggesttroll

-.-

@noby mac user FeelsCross

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