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Between 2020-08-12 00:00:00Z and 2020-08-13 00:00:00Z
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yun gu 3 easier
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Definitely Not Me. 2020-08-12 05:51:40Z
???????
05:51
05:51
what's this
05:52
@noby
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master server attack (edited)
05:57
use DDNet tab / KoG tab
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use DDNet tab but whats the second one murpi?
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06:43
korunkaThonk
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teamsaves during the ddos will be added manually
08:17
wait a few hours
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kk ty
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@BlueMeww oh, that's weird. Can you send me map name, player names
08:34
ok, all old saves can't be loaded, we will fix, let me create an issue and ask Zwelf
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Wooddivision V
08:41
BlueMeww, Elit3N0ob
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 08:41:26Z
Why couldnt Zwelf just let the saves the way they were
08:41
Only tons of bugs happened with his changes
08:41
+u cant swap weak and strong which is the worst change
08:42
u cant anymore ?
08:42
ban
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fallback
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unnecessary change if you ask me
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just let the save the way they were 1 year ago xdd
08:43
already lost 2 save cuz i tought i save as smth like "save4" but instread it was "/load boogie woogie" or idk
08:43
08:43
that xd
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 08:45:46Z
gonna steal it now
08:45
konstitroll
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 08:46:03Z
give back weak and strong swap feelsbadman
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thas an old save
08:47
and yea
08:47
give back swap
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti The old way had huge problems which could lead to server crashes or worse things
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti the changes are for the good, u couldnt understand why tho
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I think Zwelf said he'd work on restoring the old behavior for loads
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can we use save load atm?
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no, buggy
09:05
see #announcements
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You can save, but not load
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Reproducing the old behaviour in a safe way is kinda tricky
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for load?
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For save
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ah yea
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We need some way to essentially "pause" the gameworld for the saving team, but since we actually don't have distinct gameworlds per team, it's not really easy
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 09:08:01Z
But the change that made it is literally called "save weak and strong hook"
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Oh, the weak/strong thing I disagree with aswell, we should just roll it back until someone comes up with an alternative
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no, can't
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I was talking about the random passwords
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that commit isn't standing on its own
09:09
the weak/strong thing cannot be fixed by rolling back the commit Konsti mentioned
09:09
but Zwelf is working on another fix for that IIRC
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 09:11:13Z
Imagine putting so much work into a free 2008 2d game
greenthing 1
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imagine nagging people who work on this free 2008 2d game
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2020-08-12 09:14:19Z
/save was a fix for weak and strong , wasnt it?
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@Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance wym?
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2020-08-12 09:17:00Z
Wasnt it created to pause the run and to swap strong too?
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Nah, it was created for long maps iirc
09:17
but that was a side-effect people used and we should either restore it or find an alternative
10:11
...
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@Anime.pdf #announcements
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 10:39:34Z
Ger2 under attack
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2020-08-12 10:40:08Z
🛡
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is there a way to find out which /save number i uses yesterday during ddos ?
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@Volvicc we create a file called ddnet-saves.txt
13:02
If you were using a recent enough client
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yeah i did thank you, but it says "unable to load savegame : data corrupted"
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#announcements
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literally 5 post above
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Oh haha sorry didnt read it.. Anyway ty guys
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ddnet-saves.txt is inferior to the add your save code as a friend in the browser way
14:27
Time to ignore people with questionskek
14:28
Rule 1: before you ask the question can you not answer it yourself by a little digging.
14:28
But i understand people are lazy (so am i) and ask directlu
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That's not rule one YEP
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For me it ispepeH
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Why its not showing right time?
16:18
Its like our finish in team isnt there
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We had a bit of trouble with teamranks, they should be fixed later
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^ what happened to the ranks and stuff not working?
16:31
or whats wrong xD
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2020-08-12 16:35:53Z
Theres nothing new happening to ranks
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rank yes
16:36
not teamrank
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me and elitenoob finished grandma in team but our teamrank hasnt updated
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I'm guessing this server wasn't restarted after the teamrank fix
16:43
can you do a /info ?
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well we did this timer this morning
16:44
i tought it would fix with time
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if it was in the morning there was an issue with teamranks
16:45
the bug was fixed but we might have missed a couple teamranks while fixing the db, give it some time
16:45
9 am
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why cant i check normal rank tho
16:55
it just says nothing instead of normally giving me my rank or saying no rank
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@stompie i opened a bug for this
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❤️
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The ranks are being stored locally though and I will apply them later
17:51
Yeah, confirmed that some servers are still running the old versions, I will wait until they all restart to fix the team ranks
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 18:00:51Z
i mean it was clear that this map was cheatable but can we please not add tiles that didnt exist yet when the map has been created? wtf Doesnt fit so much
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"we"
18:02
tee_thinkingtee_thinkingtee_thinkingtee_thinkingtee_thinkingtee_thinking
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he just wants toi cheat
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i think those tiles are perfect for these fixes. i think the fix on ghoul has normal unhook which arent designed and its unsatisfying
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tiles are fine because they make konsti angry
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2020-08-12 18:17:33Z
Kill tiles are ddmaxn't
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i guess it's about new ht
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 18:21:55Z
@jao not like i didnt already fixed dozens of maps
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 18:22:12Z
u dumb (NOT) (edited)
18:22
There are literally forum topics where i showed chots i didnt do
18:22
Only reported
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wtf
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When DD on Steam?
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yesterday
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My personalised client lost cuz Tw update (renamed DD file by Erte troll)
18:43
@Ryozuki wait wait... Really?
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no, im trolling you
18:43
justatest
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Dont troll
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 19:28:39Z
@jao im apologizing again
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konsti back feelsamazingman
feelsamazingman 3
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@jao when do you fix Push it, i'm getting asked about the map
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when ddnet.tw isnt down anymore
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 19:41:14Z
DDNet.tw works for me
19:46
i shouldnt have said that
19:47
its the 2nd time he got banned within 2 days (edited)
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 19:47:40Z
I made a Screenshot
19:47
kek
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 19:58:41Z
19:58
noby bot confirmed
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omg bot??
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Noby bot
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justatest
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Why is multimap changed again?
22:27
This is wrong on so many levels
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what changed
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It's a piece of art and one of the oldest of its kind. Do you even have the permission of the mapper?
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They added some solo tiles
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Why start with one change in multimap now all of the sudden?
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There were tons of requests for map fixes
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And admins gave me clear rules on that
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oh ik what ur talking about
22:29
its not there on chile tho
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So this is now ignored for this one case or what?
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its in the tele 3 box right
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The lab
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why did they add solo tiles
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I can only imagine blocking as reason
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whats the lab
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Labyrinth
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yeah its not there on chile
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but i remember seeing it on another ddnet server
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It has been there already last week
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Then it got deleted again
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And now it's back again
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This is ridiculous
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@deen what do you have to say about it this time? (edited)
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lol why is multimap so famous
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multimap best map
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(for nubs)
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 22:42:26Z
multimap best map
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kamillentee suggested deen the multimap only server and also to add these solotiles because huge trolls were blocking poor nobos. They dont change the gameplay because they are optional but they help nobos and take work away from mods that have to be called when Someone is blocking. Ik that ur friend Jesus Christ told u to start this discussion. The only rule for old maps is not the change the gameplay. Startlineskips, fullcuts and big bugs can be fixed and should be so. What kind of a tee u are to block nobos on the most famous novice map? Go to brutal server and block there
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Tell me examples of other changes of that old maps then
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just turn collisions off
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This has never been a thing and just cause u claim it's for special reasons doesn't mean it's this way. This truth is that it has been acted differently towards this until now
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@ScReeNy please use other arguments than "it hasn't been changed in a long time"
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@ScReeNy also drop the "what do you have to say about it this time?"
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Well u dont know the backstory
22:52
I have talked with deen about this already
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yea who made the change
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti it would be nice if you could drop the "it hasn't been changed in a long time", too, in your arguments IMO
22:55
not seen here though
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 22:55:58Z
@ᶰ°Konͧsti it would be nice if you could drop the "it hasn't been changed in a long time", too, in your arguments IMO
@heinrich5991 ???
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Where did i say
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not seen here though = not seen in this argument of yours
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I claimed it's a peace of art, you wouldn't change art cause it's not modern anymore, wouldn you?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 22:56:54Z
dude
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just wanted to make you aware of this argument when it's being used to argue a point you don't agree with
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 22:57:04Z
There is a server called Laws multimap server
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They made an afk room and changed one part significant that was random
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Its the most famous multimap server ive ever seen, 90k finishes and always full
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Law has stolen countless maps without mappers agreeing. Even when they disagree he doesn't delete them (edited)
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 22:58:37Z
And in the past there were a lot multimaps that were slightly changed which were famous. The multimap were using isnt even the original multimap from 2010
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And old maps get changed, Pipou fixed a lot of oldschool maps that has fullcuts or startlineskips, i also fixed some. In all DDNet history changes were made to (old) maps as long they dont change the gameplay or give an advantage or disadvantage to existing ranks
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Well but those were times with different rules
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:02:52Z
the rules didnt change
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Dont change gameplay is the only rule
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U just said sth else
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ddmax maps are fixed too ^^
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:04:10Z
Ddmax maps are trash
troll 2
23:04
Multimap is legend
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At least ddmax doesn't has Startline skips
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:04:34Z
kek
23:04
A lot of ddmax maps had/have
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Cause they had competent map testing team
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:04:52Z
lol
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lol
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:04:56Z
now ur trolling
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Talking bout 0s ing
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who tested for ddmax?
23:05
Tsin, Anqel and me
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:05:29Z
Ddmax maptesting: look for design/be friends with Tsin=rls
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Anqel was online today kek
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Closed start has proven to be pretty reliable, even years later
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:06:19Z
I cheated like 30 ddmax maps
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Minimum
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Most of them got fixed years later
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U 0sed 30 ddmax ok
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whats 0s
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startskip?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:07:17Z
No normally i waited for a legit looking time until @snail deleted them all in one
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konsti big choter
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:07:54Z
I just forgot to touch startline and wanted finish
troll 3
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Well I just meant that the ddmax maps we have atm are pretty secure compared to the other Servertypes
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:08:08Z
no lol
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Definitely
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:08:16Z
not
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:08:31Z
Ddmax are often very open maps or cheaty stuff
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I have like tons of mods etc
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:08:48Z
We can go through all ddmax maps and ill tell u if it was cheatable any time
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90% of ddmax just have extra room with start
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show me how to cheat @ᶰ°Konͧsti
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I have a list with all (edited)
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:09:29Z
10% of ddmax are still 46 maps
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show me
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especially the ones that havent been fixed
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:09:44Z
37*
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Don't nail me on some numbers
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:10:03Z
Im talking about maps that were cheatable at any time
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Ok me not
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:10:20Z
Pretty sure screeny doesnt know all because nobody can reach my cheat knowledge
konstitroll 1
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But why does this even matter atm
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Weren't we talking about multimap
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XDDFf
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Ahhaha
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U have no idea bro
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can u show me where the solo is
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:10:50Z
u funny
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ban screeny choter
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:10:59Z
u dont know a percent of what i know
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I can destroy everything
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XD
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send screenshot of solo part
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:11:33Z
u were even stealing my cheats xD
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And u mine
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trolls
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:11:52Z
fake news
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trolld
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wtf
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:12:06Z
Good change
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Ugly as well
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whats the change
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what are those x blocka
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Solo tiles
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wtf
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ohh were people blocking in the maze
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lol
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:12:49Z
Screeny only wants to block poor nobos
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isnt it still blockable
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I don't block
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idk lets try
banouis 3
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they manage to make tiles uglier than the ones in the original map what is this dumb shit
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It's not even like multimap is heavily played on ddnet
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:13:39Z
Imagine crying over 3 tiles in a 2010 map
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where is the unsolo tile
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:13:45Z
Its on chile
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Well konsti
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You the one crying about some noobs getting blocked
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:14:11Z
because i care about nobos
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@ScReeNy yea, sounds something nice to have fixed
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:14:17Z
I even play with them
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They go team
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And gg
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:14:25Z
Nobos dont go team
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Wtf
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does that actually affect the gameplay
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:14:32Z
no
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to add the solo tile
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Not speedruns
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:14:42Z
They are optional
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not speedruns but?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:15:02Z
it affects blockers
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Eventuelly they can
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:15:08Z
Like jesus christ or ZombieTroll
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Gameplay gonna be different
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Noobs won't be able to follow each other after one went sol
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is this block possible
23:15
GWbruhTrolled
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u mean if they dont have /showothers?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:16:03Z
nobos are not too dumb to find the way
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Well the client option
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But it's a different experience
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:16:24Z
And i think in vanilla u see other tees anyway
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No idea
23:16
isnt this block possible too
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:17:15Z
pretty sure u can hit them away
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they hook ground tho
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:17:38Z
Wont be enough
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what if they block the tele
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yes i think if u hook ground hold right and spam hammer u can block
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if theres four tees in there
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They have a point
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critical troll thinking
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would they even be able to use the tele
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:18:32Z
u cant block teles
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yes
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u get into tees
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:18:41Z
u can tele 64 tees in one block
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dumb noby
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no bee
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would they be able to get out
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yes
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:18:57Z
yss
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noby
23:19
get a dummy
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I doubt it
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get in a wall
23:19
team one then let the other one fall then team the other one
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No setup there
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and u can get out
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wat
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Idk what he means
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u clip into ur fucking dummy
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troll
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wdym team
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:21:09Z
get 4 tees in a block and it will be a magnet
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Is that ur unique knowledge that nobody has? (edited)
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:22:00Z
no
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lmfao
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Thats not a cheat physics
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lol what
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Still dont understand cyber
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it only works if u find a way to use /team after starting race
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So not
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i guess lol
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Plot twist
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Konsti is ddosing and forced admins change multimal
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Timing is fitting
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stop it ddosti
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I think him being silent is proof enoug
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Gn8 everyone
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bam
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2020-08-12 23:38:46Z
ddosing is for idiots
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