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How can i help with translation on the game?

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #2360 hook is not transparent for spec tee

Reported by louis on Discord:

@deen another bug, hook is still fully rendered if spec tee is specced on ground while hooking

it should be half transparent instead.

oh that makes sense

map sounds don't work in 0.7?

also since when was there a swear filter for /save justatest

justatest

justatest

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nope, they don't

06:45

there isn't

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06:50

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06:50

when i try "/save shit" or "/save fuck" it turns into 3 random words lol

lol

that means the save code already exists, i think

Oh that's a leak

07:19

I guess it's fine since the possibilities are still too many

well good luck figuring out the name associated to it

07:29

xd

IIRC the last time I used /save it simply informed that the passcode was already taken, though obviously not by who

07:32

so it was easier to just add like one character than remember 3 random words xd

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2361 Fix /spec hook

Fixes https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/2360

also fixed that u wouldnt see hook

08:14

if u connected and he was in spec

@Ryozuki syltoox reported a couple issues, apparently spectee doesnt care about teams and solo at all

08:27

Also funny consequence of us waiting for it to stop before killing off the character entity, the outlined spec tee can be seen moving around :D

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

dfd564e Forgot ddnet-saves.txt - def-

Also happens if you go on top of the head of a tee and spec

08:28

I think you should check that the character is not active before rendering spectee

nah, I think the server should only send the spectee if the tee is not there

08:33

and the client should only display the spectee if the server sends it

nah

08:35

it would make the code more complicated

08:35

there is a simple fix right now

08:35

@Learath2 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2361/commits/2922b4b6720a787d97f026bc085ea0903621dc5b

08:36

@Learath2 " syltoox reported a couple issues, apparently spectee doesnt care about teams and solo at all" what does this mean? u dont want to see spectee of other teams?

@Ryozuki can spectees even hook?

spectees can have a hook

08:37

ye

08:37

u can spec while hooking someone or the ground

spectee should care about showothers like any other tee, no? you probably shouldn't see spectees of teams that you don't see

ye

Why cant two names have the same save pw?

because the database column differentiating saves is only the PW

ChillerDragon: Probably to keep the queries simple

@Ryozuki got a map where /spec is active?

i just go to my server

08:39

idk one rn

08:40

also on ddnet u wont see the hook cuz its not fixed there

08:41

@Learath2 the code kinda takes into account otherteam

08:41

are u sure syltoox is not using a bot client troll

troll

@louis can you tell me a map with /spec enabled?

[11:24 AM] Syltoox: - If im in another team, I can still see other people in /spec
[11:24 AM] Syltoox: - Can see tee's outline which are in /spec in a solopart

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #2362 Disable 3 word default pws for saves?

They seem to not be received so well and cause confusion. @Zwelf Would it be possible to safely fix it so that we just get an error again and the team can choose a new code on their own?

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@heinrich5991 Springlobe 3

ty

i actually didnt know that i thought everyone uses 123 or asd as save password

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08:47

that's with showothers off, I wonder what's going on for him

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2359 Add 14.0 Simplified-Chinese translation; Edit few translation errors

08:50

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

6d11aee Add 14.0 Simplified-Chinese translation; Edit few translation errors - Nyte-BK201 b146b6f Merge #2359 - bors[bot]

is fng server open source?

https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/

Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod

FNG mod for teeworlds, that advances the original FNG idea by golden spikes and other features - Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod

@Ryozuki also, apparently the spectee is moving up and down slightly for some reason

@nori there are multiple open source versions of fng thats also why it was named openfng at some point i guess. But the currently most played onbgy fng is closed src

I've been encouraging @noby to move to the antibot blob like ddnet is using

uhm @Ryozuki I don't see the circle at all

?

09:15

make sure u are on a 14.0 server

Apparently I do, the background of lockdown just makes it impossible to see

09:19

might want to add a bright outline?

@Learath2 not moving

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zooooz

[ddnet-libs:pr-linux-sdl2] 1 new commit

daaf041 Add Linux SDL2 shared libs - def-

@Ryozuki

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how to reproduce

09:28

i dont see u there

09:28

i see u correctly

I just jumped high, hit spec and waited

09:28

it happens to Nooback too and I can see it

09:28

I built the latest master

@Learath2 u need to update server too

09:29

a master

09:29

it doesnt have the pr anyway

lol look at u

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idk why it bugs for u

09:29

it doesnt bug for me at all

09:29

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09:29

ur still here

maybe the new patch fixes that too unintentionally?

im not on new patch

or maybe my shitty internet is messing with it? but I don't see how, we don't evolve the spectee, so no prediction

idk

how could it be rendering at two different places for us?

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

2f3073c fix /spec hook - edg-l 2922b4b show spectee when player is inactive only - edg-l 1af1d56 Merge #2361 - bors[bot]

09:31

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #2360 hook is not transparent for spec tee

09:31

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #2360 hook is not transparent for spec tee

09:32

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2363 Change ID of SpecChar due to incompatible update

09:36

[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit

53db19b libSDL so name - def-

09:37

[ddnet-libs:pr-linux-sdl2] 1 new commit

87038aa Add Linux SDL2 shared libs - def-

09:43

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2364 Version 14.0.1

Waiting for #2363, #2358, #2356, #2331

Can you also wait for me to take a look at the spec char patch, I don't think we have to send all this extra state

oh, that would be even better

09:44

yeah

The theory I have is that going into spec puts the hook in a known state, so we shouldn't need to send it

09:48

but need to check

@Learath2 take into account endless hook and stuff

but still, when you go into spec your hook is cut off, in CCharacter::Pause

oh i guess

ah, issue with that is the hook is only cut off if you hook someone, not if you are hooking the ground

10:00

Well we can avoid sending it if we don't want to see the hooks of spec'd tees

10:01

otherwise it's going to have to be sent

we should sent it i think

We don't have to send hookedplayer though, atleast we can drop that

I also prefer not displaying it

10:13

idc about sending or not

Well if we don't want to display it we don't need to change the spec-char object

also true

also if we send the spec-char only when the character itself isn't being snapped we can save a couple edge cases

currently trying to work out a less hacky way of rendering the spec char

@heinrich5991 what is hacky about it right now?

can you advice me how to check the value of boolean which in the gamecontroller.h (public) and i'm in pickup.cpp

Ah, you know what fixes these? insert C++20 concepts praise here

10:19

@justabutterflier all entities have a pointer to the gameworld which has a pointer to the gameserver which has a pointer to the gamecontroller

10:19

I think there is even a convenience function GameServer()->m_pController

doesn't work :(

10:20

already tried this

"doesn't work" isn't helpful

10:20

what's the error?

ok wait

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

f935617 Change ID of SpecChar due to incompatible update - heinrich5991 ca498e9 Merge #2363 - bors[bot]

10:20

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2363 Change ID of SpecChar due to incompatible update

@deen can you give us a while to mess around with the spec-char stuff?

if this boolean declarated in gamecontroller.h, can i type something like this in pickup.cpp? GameServer()->m_pController->NeedtoHide = false;

Not if NeedtoHide is private

show us the error message that happens when you do this

NeedtoHide is public

show the error

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have you tried compiling it?

10:22

to make sure it's not only an IDE error

nope

10:22

ok, i'll try

(if it's an actual error, you need to #include <game/server/gamecontroller.h>

10:22

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10:22

xD

@Learath2 I saw you had a change to add a ddnet PKGBUILD to gentoo. Nothing happened with it?

yes, #include <game/server/gamecontroller.h>

@deen oh, just haven't used gentoo in a while because I've been testing out arch, I was going to migrate back when I'm in italy but that never happened

ok

10:24

for arch we are just missing 1 vote for the soft 10 vote boundary in AUR so that a Trusted User can pick up DDNet and make an official package

I can write the ebuild and submit it if you want, I maintain 2 ebuilds already

I think it would be nice, but your choice if you want to maintain it

are Trusted User active? would they release ddnet the same night?

10:26

feelsbadman

quickly, but same night would be hard, except if they're active ddnet players

feelsbadman

I know the best solution, Ryozuki should apply as Trusted User

is that an actual boundary? I thought TUs could pick up any package they use to put it into the repos

but i think ucannot be a trusted user and work on 1 package only xD

Not an actual boundary, but if a package has >= 10 the TU can decide on their own

is teeworlds an official package? maybe we can interest that guy

if it's < 10 votes, then the TU needs approval from 2 (or 3?) other TUs

or maybe the teeworlds guy hates ddnet

10:28

justatest

inb4 it's stitch

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

58d89b5 Added garry and updated D3thnn - gdin

maybe i actually have some chances

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10:30

but idk if i should take that responsability

hm should we be sending EXPLAYERFLAG_SPEC even when the tee hasn't paused yet?

our voting ring got us the tenth vote already

"voting ring" poggers

poggers

@heinrich5991 how about putting the information inside CNetObj_SpecChar inside a CNetObj_Character and passing that to the render functions? That should get rid of all the special cases inside the render functions themselves

doing something similar to that rn

10:33

I want to sue RenderTee directly though

10:33

*use

sue

10:34

justatest

oh wtf

10:35

I think I'm in the src/game/client/animstate.{cpp,h} for the first time

10:35

I saw it for the first time today aswell

luckily it has a function that I can use to not care about it anymore

10:35

CAnimState::GetIdle() (edited)

10:35

thanks matricks (probably)

I think we shouldn't display the hook either, first of all it's not really common to be hooked on while in spec, second it's not really useful information for anyone

10:40

third, no ugly spec-char-2

no one will ever see that

10:41

but yeah

we will

not really. it's only one line in network.py

10:41

it doesn't carry over to the structs

Oh yeah true

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

a8abc39 Make game less dependend on score backend - Zwelf df66d83 Merge #2356 - bors[bot]

10:46

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2356 Make game less dependend on score backend

ah, sweet array out of bounds in RenderPlayer

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #2365 Array out of bounds access in `CPlayers::RenderPlayer`

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/df66d83a04789b628d1526e9414ec9f4c231a7e8/src/game/client/components/ghost.cpp#L343 ClientID: -2 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/df66d83a04789b628d1526e9414ec9f4c231a7e8/src/game/client/components/players.cpp#L218 Access to array with index -2.

10:57

[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit

b62d0b0 Add libSDL2-2.0.so.0 for linux steam - def-

uhm, call me naive, but where are the bounds checks in the CGameClient::OnNewSnapshot function? @Learath2

11:08

e.g. in the if(Item.m_Type == NETOBJTYPE_CLIENTINFO) for int ClientID;

I don't think there are any

ouch

are there supposed to be any?

this might be an actual security vulnerability with bad impacts

11:09

it's a nice arbitrary write gadget in a convenient location

11:09

"kinda arbitrary"

well you can't write at an arbitrary location

I think IDs can only be 0-65535

hm, you can control IDs though yeah

probably in tw, too

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

7303316 Try to fix settingscommands - def-

there are a couple of pointers after the data, but you'd need an info leak to exploit that

11:12

but still a serious security vulnerability

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

50f55f5 Fix settingscommands - def-

Anything we use as an index, we should probably be clamping

[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit

7f29e5c Fix scrolling in settingscommands - def-

not only clamping but probably even dbg_assert

not dbg_assert here, it's network input

11:15

ignore or disconnect from server

ah yep, no need to let the server crash the client

11:15

disconnect sounds sane

justatest

vanilla 0.7 has a fix

11:21

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/commit/a3500d1c0288998eacb206b95e0b0ad4757d713f?w=1

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #2366 Array out of bounds access in `CGameClient::OnNewSnapshot`

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/df66d83a04789b628d1526e9414ec9f4c231a7e8/src/game/client/gameclient.cpp#L1151 ClientID is controlled by the server (0-65535) https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/df66d83a04789b628d1526e9414ec9f4c231a7e8/src/game/client/gameclient.cpp#L1157 ClientID is used to write server-controlled data pInfo->m_UseCustomColor. This could have security implications, couldn't find something quickly that doesn't need an info leak.

Apparently I do, the background of lockdown just makes it impossible to see

@Learath2 That's why some ppl wanted spectee visible on all backgrounds, preferably black & white dashed skin instead of "if the outline isn't visible in very dark areas, the nickname definitely will be." Useless vote for community aside...

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2367 Inform players when a different save code from the specified is used

Partially fixes #2362. Adding a command to check if a save code exists next (maybe /cansave [server] code or /saveexists [server] code).

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

cf77b56 Allow any update.json size - def- 38b95f6 Merge #2358 - bors[bot]

11:52

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2358 Allow any update.json size

11:57

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2368 Make spec character rendering a bit cleaner

@Learath2 here's my WIP PR, in case you want to take a look at it

11:58

will eat lunch now (I think you wanted more feedback between devs during the development of features?)

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

64d63bc Enable rpath on Linux for shipping SDL2 shared lib - def- bf09d18 Merge #2331 - bors[bot]

11:59

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2331 Enable rpath on Linux for shipping SDL2 shared lib

11:59

[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit

128bd74 nicer - def-

12:00

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

d09ec2c nicer - def-

@deen of so simple solution on the settings&commands I didn't even thought

also feedback from players not also from devs would be nice if something is changed affecting the users

12:19

much english sentence

12:19

s/also/only

@ChillerDragon like vote in #announcements ? :p

idk would be a good start votes and discussions discord seems to be the place where players hang out

there was such a vote in #announcements, for spec tee skin

maybe also the github issue could be linked so cursious players can easily find out where to find the details

12:37

thats nice

5:59 PM] Learath2: We are looking to display players in /spec and testing out 4 different looks. https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2309#issuecomment-647612108

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Let us know which one you like the most

Show /spec tees with a dashed skin by edg-l · Pull Request #2309 · ...

Adds the option cl_show_spec_tee Don't merge until @Ekidoxx confirms it: Wait a bit before merging the visible-spec, I will play around more with the skin. I.e. whiteish border around tha...

ok cool awesome

12:38

so thats execatly what i suggested but i didnt see it because i stopped using discord

There is however an issue, we presented 4 options, there was clear consensus for one of them, so we went with a 5th option

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2368 done @Learath2 @Ryozuki

Make spec character rendering a bit cleaner by heinrich5991 · Pull ...

12:59

I tested it and looked fine™

looks good

13:00

didnt test it tho

13:01

now we have 3 passes greenthing

greenthing

greenthing

@Learath2 Kinda sad end-result though

14:03

...yet I'm not much surprised xd

Atleast we have the feature in, the way it's rendered can always be changed

yup

I think the 4th option would be the only way that renders equally well in all backgrounds

The longer the feature will be in there, the more ideas to improve it will arise, so

14:04

that was the plan xd

greenthing

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or colorbody and it's inverse

why not 2 if people want it

but colorbody + inverse would require code I think

the way I intended the skin was for the full opacity image to be the default

I don't think it needs any transparency either, it's already mostly transparent

if you take for example 30% of that it's not very visible

14:07

I mean that it wasn't supposed to be more transparent than the image itself

14:07

I can make a fully visible one to be better adjustable

the one with feet was good idk why it wasnt used (edited)

14:13

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14:13

this one

because feet look messy and the body outline can be done cleaner

messy feet > no feet but ok

nothing > messy anything

14:17

a circle perfectly represents a tee and speced tees don't need to walk anywhere so why would they have feet

heh

its not like they take off their feet and put it in their pockets when they spec

but the circle is not a tee, it shows the lack of a tee

maybe they do take out their feet when going to spec? you never know

they for sure hide their hands, since most ppl don't even realise tees have actual hands xd

this should work better with the adjustable transparency in game

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its not like they take off their feet and put it in their pockets when they spec

@louis lmao

the earlier one was at 40% which was already adjusted to look best in game

ain't it 100% for same team, and custom-set by showothers alpha for other teams?

the transparency of the skin is connected to the showothers alpha slider, I didn't know that before

I thought that got changed, maybe it was just part of conversation and not actual code change

well having it connected is inconvenient

@Learath2 is the skin gonna be replaced with this new opaque one?

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14:54

Or use this

what does "manual %3d:%02d" mean? (edited)

14:57

"manual" scares me woah

Rather than what does, you should ask what it stands for / where it is used, since it's from translations files

How to close lan server if no terminal created and not knowing Rcon on Linux??

but looks like that part is not translated in like half of the languages

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@ᶰ°Konͧsti pkill -f DDNet ?

Thx

15:01

But

15:01

I cant join lan server

15:01

Not even per localhost

because u just closed it

no

kek

Before already

15:01

And now again

maybe u are banned

U

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troll

bruh

how are u launching it

15:02

there needs to be an autoexec.cfg or autoexec_server.cfg

IK

15:03

EVERYTHING THERE

@ᶰ°Konͧsti Do you even see it in lan tab?

Yes

what happens when u try to join

"You are banned" xd

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The same thing like on noby fng

15:03

Like

15:03

nothing

kek

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kek

4

kek

4

kek

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15:03

Connecting forever

danAmazing

15:04

ask the admin for unban then

feelsamazingman

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It's just a plain roulette guess, but maybe your router blocks the port or UDP (?) packets, even though you can see it in lan

15:06

@ᶰ°Konͧsti any errors in the terminal maybe?

if he connects to localhost then it should never even go thru the router

well, yea, but we're talking about Konsti, so... xd

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troll

so, im waiting xd

Its the DDNet 14 server Which is bugged

15:10

I opened old server and no problems

15:10

Im not that retarded so no u

oh the new version comes with konsti protection

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peperage

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ban

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kek

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damn @noby

Clearly The biggest troll

15:18

How about fixing DDNet server 14

fix yourself kek

kek

(sry bro)

15:22

what the "wait before try for" heck

when you can't connect to server and have to wait x seconds before trying again IIRC

ah ok

15:25

it will be more informative

guuuys... where the hell is code for, let's say this https://ddnet.tw/ranks/novice/ page? I'm quite sure it's not anywhere in https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web (or I'm dumb) but I neither see it anywhere in https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts ... what am I missing?

@Soreu you're not stupid

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ddnet-web is only for the static part

15:35

The ranks pages are created here: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/master/servers/scripts/ranks.py

ddnet/ddnet-scripts

The magic scripts that make DDNet run. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet-scripts development by creating an account on GitHub.

15:35

But I wouldn't recomment you to change anything in there

I know

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;D

15:36

Tried to undestand the code like 20 times in last umm... 5 years? Never was good idea xD

if you can find a nice mockup of where best to show the release time I can add it

15:36

This code is super-unclean

i could rework it with https://www.yattag.org/

Yattag - Generate HTML with Python

Python library for generating HTML or XML in a pythonic way. Pure python alternative to template engines.

15:36

it would look super pythonic

15:36

greenthing

more importantly, I think we should split up the ranks pages, but I'm not sure how to best do that

First of all, I guess there are still several static pages generated by dynamic code, since that's what I found out... long ago, and doubt it'd change

because at the moment the ranks pages get slow on even modern mobile devices

u need pagination

15:37

i guess

the settings & commands page sometimes hangs my phone too xD

that wold be an easy fix

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I wasn't sure whether to paginate or put each map's rank into a separate page

There are better solutions, and more user-friendly, but the ones I know of require quite the rewrite of page... page made with code I can't even understand, not mentioning testing it locally somehow

15:38

but since we're on it...

15:39

Let's say I'd like to test ddnet-web locally...

https://uniqueclan.net/maps

ddnet-web is easy to test locally. just need jekyll and some jekyll plugins and run "jekyll serve"

aside from ofc needing XAMPP or whatever to be able to run php code, how to have the ddnet-scripts part working or.. idk

15:40

except for the php bit

XAMPP

cammostripes

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windows

cammostripes

but well, generate jekyll to dir read by XAMPP seems like... possible... solution...

@deen any idea why i cant join DDNet server 14 on lan?

nono, jekyll brings its own web server

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no need for xampp

15:41

@ᶰ°Konͧsti with vanilla client?

with DDNet 14

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xD

eeeh

15:41

i know we have a bug in vanilla antispoofing

Well, have to test it then, but I'm still quite sure it won't even run index.php since I'm on windows

i always wondered how far would u accept a web change

15:42

i guess not much

show me a mockup first

http://v2.ddnet.tw/WIP/ xD

15:42

damn, still running <3

or explain what you want to change, before you change everything and have it not accepted :/

i also mean the backend

and btw, that v2 is literally a mockup that I wouldn't prefer today, it can be done way cleaner & nicer xd

would be fine for me, as long as it's as performant as the old one and readable

the performant part is hard here, since current page is nearly "bare" which could be interrupted even by relatively simple framework

15:45

@Ryozuki btw, kinda missing the old times of doing remake with you :D

well yeah

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #2369 Switching from editor to desktop and back makes the mouse disappear

Cøke: new editor bug, when you are in the editor, switch to the desktop and switch back to the editor the mouse is gone and you can't do anything anymore. that means you have to delete everything mapped that is not saved... so before you go to the desktop it is best to save and close the editor

I can't reproduce. Can anyone confirm? Is this with fullscreen on Windows?

i know way more now tho

15:46

but ye its hard to go against dynamic content thats statically generated every x mins

15:46

a ugly aproach that works

it has constant load on the server independent of how many people access it, which is great

idk how perfomant caching is against that

@ᶰ°Konͧsti Some firewall problem? I can't reproduce it with Linux and Win64

also ddnet.tw has only 2gb or ram xd

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which is plenty

well if u use file based caching like here yes

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #2370 DDNet 14 client can't join DDNet-Server on LAN?

ᶰ°Konͧsti: @deen any idea why i cant join DDNet server 14 on lan?

I can't reproduce on Linux and with Win64 in wine. Anyone can?

it keeps me connecting forever

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that 2GB of ram should be far more than enough

maybe its windows stuff

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oh but ur on linux

ofc

r u sure ur using legit client

U

15:50

its ddnet 14 from page

ah from page

15:50

i never use that

15:51

well ur right 2gb is enough

15:51

root@ryozuki ~ # free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           3850         561        1442          97        1846        2911
Swap:          1023         292         731

my server with several websites xd

several

ingame console says connecting, sending info and thats it

@ᶰ°Konͧsti ddnet hates u

u

15:55

Ryozoozki

Someone else here can confirm that joining LAN server with DDNet 14 (client + server) doesn't work?

im on Ms Linux rn

montana linux?

microsoft linux kek

kek

ban

@deen on Windows 10 it works normal

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2371 Update Swedish translations

16:24

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2368 Make spec character rendering a bit cleaner

16:24

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

8c095b2 Make spec character rendering a bit cleaner - heinrich5991 97c7525 Merge #2368 - bors[bot]

update failed. check logs... is "check logs" must be like "you should check logs"?

[10:56 AM] deen: Someone else here can confirm that joining LAN server with DDNet 14 (client + server) doesn't work? @deen i tried on osx and it doesnt work for me either

16:32

it is also not the client because i tried with old lclient too

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2372 Fix out of bounds access in RenderPlayer (fixes #2365)

16:34

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2373 Fix out of bounds access in OnNewSnapshot (fixes #2366)

I tried on osx and it works just fine for me

Ye couldnt join with 12.9

16:42

So DDNet 14 server bugged

yes i think it rules out firewall issues since 1. its lan server and 2. it works fine with old ddnet server on lan on this same computer

16:43

i was testing ddnet 10.62 server on lan a couple hrs ago

Joining via localhost also not working

tahts what i always do

xd

16:44

Im too lazy

16:44

kek

bind f9 "connect 127.0.0.1:8303"

16:44

same

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

d6ba786 Update Swedish translations - sven 35cb666 Merge #2371 - bors[bot]

16:45

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2371 Update Swedish translations

atleast the latest version works completely fine for me

downloaded from ddnet.tw?

did a git reset, removed my build folder, built the server and the client, launch server, connect

oh

16:46

i didnt try that

troll

1

master stablest thing in the whole world

lmao

@deen k, got it working with mixing XAMPP & Jekyll build directory (damn windows). But now... is there a chance to also generate the pages from ddnet-scripts? :f

absolutely not

though so, not mentioning I wouldn't even guess which script to use xd

17:41

k

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2374 Restore old /save behavior

Fixes #2362, supersedes #2367 I didn't change the /save message. There are already two different: "Use '/load %s' on %s to continue" and Use '/load %s' to continue. I think it would be better to add a NetMessage, this could also solve the problem of saving which team members were in the team.

I guess this can't be used to cheat anything?

Only if an instant rehook is necessary. Might be useful for rehooking an edge hook (but you still have to aim).

Guys i'm making a trainning server but right now my "bots-dummies" are showed in server-browser and i dont wanna do that bcoz i know is banneable so.. someone can help me?

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #2375 jump sound when /showall 1 enabled

i realized that you hear the jump and doublejump sound of players that are far away from ur snapradius when you enabled showall 1 (and being in /pause?) Also, independently from that i think, you can hear the jumpsound of players in soloparts (when ur at the same place without being in pause ofc)

@deen https://ddnet.tw/news/ if you click on the newest one, 2020-06-24 » DDNet 14.0 the browser tries to download file ddnet-14.0 instead of opening the news page. My guess is that the permalink is missing / at the very end

@Learath2 common translate for 1.14+, but the problem is that i cannot translate "Connect Dummy" and "Disconnect Dummy" with the fact that this version (and somehow the older ones too) won't come with those two, or if there's one, then all of them combined. Please look up for what might cause this to happen. (edited)

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@Learath2 how can i filter by head branch, i cant figure out what the correct one is

@jao yeah I had the same issue

19:40

I guess prs have a a branch name in them that you can use, but just random refs idk

19:40

I was thinking of checking whether a ref is a branch and using that

@Soreu nah, that's a problem with file endings for directories. works fine in nginx

https://ddnet.tw/news/ddnet7-server-0.9/ works though, while https://ddnet.tw/news/ddnet-14.0 doesn't

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

96aa5bb Fix ddnet-14.0 news link (thanks to Soreu) - def-

oops, you're right

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

d169bb1 Restore old /save behavior - Zwelf 0d887e8 Explain why the randomly generated save code is used - Zwelf 00eb204 Merge #2374 - bors[bot]

19:49

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #2362 Disable 3 word default pws for saves?

19:49

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2374 Restore old /save behavior

Hello

20:00

Guys i sorry for disturb

20:00

But now i found my faker

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

431d824 Revert "Fix wrong usage of bitwise-or which is resulting in an always true" - def-

Somebody knows who giving master bans?

20:00

I heard its noby

20:00

I will thank for help

someone in teeworlds?

20:01

what master bans?

ye

20:01

someone

20:01

and still faking

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while 2 weeks

20:02

I can share screenshot

20:02

If need

I don't understand. What's a master ban?

i know about master bans

20:02

from status/tw

ah, those have nothing to do with ddnet

20:03

they are about banning servers from mastersrv

20:03

because the servers are doing something bad, like misreporting player number

20:03

this also has nothing to do with banning players

but there have alternative vac ban kind?

20:04

Like ban for ip or id of motherboard

Even if there was such things, both are easy to avoid

20:05

@deen Am I right with the feeling that theme switcher isn't just plain script, since the href="/css-halloween.css" actually points to /css/css-empty.css ? :F

not sure if it has been reported yet but if someone specs while being dragged they are invisible

@Ryozuki did you already fix it to show dashed skin when the tee actually disappears, or not yet? xD

its fixed

Soo, there no bans

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Only for ip from 1 server?

no

20:13

yes

Flux_2020-06-25_22-09-15.demo

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Yes or nope?

@Soreu it's implemented in nginx

uhh

no global id bans

20:13

yes, each server has their own ip bans

20:14

https://hookrace.net/blog/theme-switcher-nginx/

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2376 Add instructions for translation stats

20:15

yeey, you mentioned me on Your blog

global id, how it works?

not with teeworlds/ddnet

20:17

in other games the client gets it from the os and sends it to the server

20:17

then the server bans you

On example people can be banned on all ddnet servers?

ddnet needs global ban system

20:18

but doesnt have, no

20:20

and yeah that type of hardware ban system would be impossible in an open source game like this i think

the biggest reason those kinds of ban systems work is that there is a cost of getting banned

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it's either financial or time

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get banned on league and there goes your account you played for years on, get banned on CoD and there goes 40$

also i think those two games dont let u just edit the client to make it send a different id

get banned in dota, there goes ur 2k$

20:22

justatest

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2367 Inform players when a different save code from the specified is used

@noby well you could

wouldnt u have to dissect how the network protocol works and edit packets as theyre sent out

you assign the player a unique id, he gets banned, he needs a new id,

oh

for which he'll have to pay, or lose all progress

how do u associate the id with the player tho

you could do it like the older games like diablo2 where you don't care who uses the key

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or you could do it the newer way like nintendo

20:25

they now ship certificates signed by nintendo with their cartridges, which you can use to prove you own the game and go online

20:25

they can also revoke certificates, so you get banned with a game cartridge, it's never going online again

"lose all progress" is more of an incentive for some gametypes than others

3ds encrypts the roms

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yet i played on a 3ds emulator

The DRM stuff is a lost cause, it's always getting broken

if ur a nameless tee who just wants to aimbot on servers that dont even keep track of anything then that wont really discourage u

but they can with a 100% certainty prevent you from going online with it

noby

2

@noby exactly, so you don't have to pay for a key, nor is there any lost time in getting banned, thus we can't have good bans

not as good as that kindof hardware ban yeah

20:28

but ip (range) bans are still pretty effective when theres anti vpn

hardware bans don't work and have never worked

not close to 100% but still pretty good

the hardware is yours, the OS is yours, you get to show the game whatever you want

lol, true

microsoft has been doing a sort of HWID for a while, call them up tell them you need to reactivate your key and they won't ask any questions

20:29

even they know they can't rely on it

20:30

The perfect banning system exists, and it's asking for a national id card

lol

koreans have been doing it for 2 decades now, works fine for them

if u dont mind losing over half the players sure

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2377 ddnet-saves.txt: Also parse correctly when saving on other country

phone numbers are also used pretty commonly

20:31

steam did it for csgo and prime matchmaking

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well valve not steam

20:32

Anyway, you need a unique identifier and it should be something that's not easy to get

i guess it goes back to the whole idea that theres always a tradeoff between convienence and security

20:32

also privacy in this case

I think croatian eOI cards have an anonymous certificate aswell

20:33

a remnant of a failed online voting scheme

that doesnt sound like a good idea

I don't think it's possible to have online voting

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I think we discussed this before, but to give someone the right to vote, you need to know who they are, and when you give them the "ballot" there is nothing to stop you from marking it per each person

20:35

I wouldn't want the government to know how I vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkH2r-sNjQs relevant

oh the red shirt guy

@Learath2 you want to review my changes so I can release 14.0.1?

oh sure

Feels like I should include the 3 remaining fixes at least

20:38

thanks!

red shirt guy :D

Yeah, I watched a few of his videos and never noticed that he's always wearing red shirts

this chat parsing is like incredibly fragile

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

53971f4 ddnet-saves.txt: Also parse correctly when saving on other country - def- 516f3b0 Merge #2377 - bors[bot]

20:49

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2377 ddnet-saves.txt: Also parse correctly when saving on other country

yeah, sorry about that

20:50

as Zwelf said, a net msg would be cleaner

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #2366 Array out of bounds access in `CGameClient::OnNewSnapshot`

20:55

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

e03066c Fix out of bounds access in OnNewSnapshot (fixes #2366) - def- f925822 Add instructions for translation stats - def- 9fb6fa7 Merge #2373 #2376 - bors[bot]

20:55

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2376 Add instructions for translation stats

20:55

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2373 Fix out of bounds access in OnNewSnapshot (fixes #2366)

I didn't read everything these 2 days, but you guys know that //spec midair is a thing now?

I donated to DDnet

How do I get my name to appear on donars list

xd

@TwItCh just wait, deen checks it regularly and updates the website

@n000b How does he know which name to put on based on my email ? Since it's not related :

Forum account? Dunno normally it isn't a problem

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #2365 Array out of bounds access in `CPlayers::RenderPlayer`

22:02

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

80931b6 Fix out of bounds access in RenderPlayer (fixes #2365) - def- b4472d7 Merge #2372 - bors[bot]

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2372 Fix out of bounds access in RenderPlayer (fixes #2365)

22:03

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2364 Version 14.0.1

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[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

d907ec3 Version 14.0.1 - def-

@n000b yeah, fixed in 14.0.1, to be released in a few min

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@TwItCh thanks for the donation

22:09

Normally I know the name because people write it in their paypal message, but you didn't

[ddnet-web:master] 2 new commits

d266a4d Version 14.0.1 - def- 667eb4e Add donation by ImJustANobody - def-

@deen Can you add JustANobody please

he had added already...

Thank you I see ❤️

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