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b0fc553 M Unbalanced - ddnet-maps

Great I bugs I can't reproduce again

Hm after a map change no netmsg ever makes it out of CNetServer

Oh, hm on a map load the server seems to forget that this is a sixup client

09:57

That was a bitch to debug...

10:01

@deen I really don't have any access to linux to test it on there, it works for me on windows

10:01

on macOS*

10:02

I can try windows on a friends laptop

brew seems to have broken something about libogg

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Hm not brews fault for once

10:21

@heinrich5991 we seem to include things without their directory prefix, but opusfile itself seems to include it using the directory, <ogg/ogg.h>

10:21

which is not in our include path

might need to add that to the include paths necessary for opusfile

PC_OGG_INCLUDEDIR would need to be added

10:26

I'm not quite sure how to get that though

10:27

I could probably figure that one out, I don't know where the include paths necessary for opusfile go

hm no, we already include OGG_INCLUDE_DIRS, OPUSFILE_INCLUDE_DIRS and OPUS_INCLUDE_DIRS

Or can I just add PC_OGG_INCLUDEDIR to OGG_INCLUDE_DIRS?

apparently OGG_INCLUDE_DIRS doesn't seem to work

OGG_INCLUDE_DIRS is the ogg directory within the actual includedir

perhaps you need to change the file that is looked for to ogg/ogg.h

10:29

if that's the correct include path for the ogg library

Oh we don't use ogg ourselves?

don't think so

ah but it still seems to work on linux

10:30

wouldn't ogg/ogg.h break linux then?

where do you have the #include <ogg/ogg.h>?

it is opusfile.h i think, i had same problem when compiling new ddnet on new osx

 In file included from /Users/runner/runners/2.263.0/work/ddnet/ddnet/src/engine/client/sound.cpp:20:
/usr/local/Cellar/opusfile/0.11_1/include/opus/opusfile.h:109:11: fatal error: 'ogg/ogg.h' file not found
# include <ogg/ogg.h>

no, ogg/ogg.h seems to be the correct include path

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it just happens to lie in the default path on linux

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so we didn't notice

ogg/ogg.h works

10:36

I wonder why it used to work before

perhaps the include directory got there in some other way?

Learath2

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2268 Fix macOS CI

10:40

Learath2

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2269 Mark unused tunes as such

These are only used in the client for prediction.

10:41

fokkonaut

[ddnet/ddnet7] Pull request closed: #101 Fix format without reason

10:41

fokkonaut

[ddnet7:master] 2 new commits

5f3d957 Fix format without reason - ChillerDragon 5ec9e4f Merge pull request #101 from ChillerDragon/pr_fix_reason_format - fokkonaut

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

676deae Fix macOS CI - Learath2 eed3e78 Mark unused tunes as such - Learath2 ac0a6fa Merge #2268 #2269 - bors[bot]

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bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2269 Mark unused tunes as such

11:46

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2268 Fix macOS CI

hey dev i need help with vanilla server dm me fast for help

Dont help him he asked me too, he tries to scam iF city accounts

yes yes why u lie?

just for the way he asks

12:51

i know he is a 12y kid

xD

@WhiteKitty then why did you delete the video you sent me where you can clearly see your server name is the same as if citys?

xDDD

also you wrote something like "hi help me i download 0.6.5 and change mod name now it dont start"

why u scam chillerdragon srv

? XD

? xD

12:52

He is a friend of mine

oh no and is reason for scam srv

?

did u add in ur srv (C) ?

12:53

no

i asked him to use the map. Then I made a mod for 0.7, his is 0.6

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He is okay with this

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Other players too

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Other accounta

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No scam here

im not sure

ask him

12:53

xd

then why u have my acc already if im not register?

Because you wanted me to port it over

12:54

xD

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15:58

lets go trending on github :D

Was there some way now to tell ddnet clients that the server is a ddnet server apart from setting gametype?

yes

Can you point me at something?

GameInfoEx, e.g.

e.g.? Is there more?

that's probably the correct thing for what you're asking

@heinrich5991 Could you give a guess at which clear entities the client would load on conflicting gametype and GameInfoEx? i.e. when do those packages arrive relative to the client loading the clear entities image

it always prefers the stuff from GameInfoEx

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gametype is used as a fallback to GameInfoEx

Is GameInfoEx sent when serverinfo is sent or just when you join?

GameInfoEx is sent in the snapshot

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so only after you connected

I suppose the client loads clear entities before the first snapshot though

I don't know how it works exactly

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I'd guess it loads all entities

Nope I checked that, it doesn't switch clear entities when this Info.m_EntitiesXXX variable updates (edited)

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Maybe I'll add this to the client, that it loads all entities and displays the right one according to the current game info. Would be useful for my servers

are you sure about this?

16:25

the code looks like it can change the image dynamically

16:25

some entities take precedence over other

16:26

DDNet > DDRace > Race > BW > FNG > Vanilla

2

Hmm it does, doesn't match with my testing

Nooo we have commits which don't build, annoying when doing bisects

yea :/

@timakro I just bisected the 0.7 comp

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and the build failed in fake_server only, so it was easy to fix by only building DDNet-Server DDNet targets

or git bisect skip

that's worse

yeah, but if the failing change doesn't build that won't help

yeah i just tried DDNet and it didn't build

that basically doesn't reduce the amount of commits, unfortunately

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git bisect skip

what are you bisecting?

it's the thing you need when something doesn't build ^^

well, you could quickly fix the build, squash the fix

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and reapply it wheneverit fails again

This weird entities loading behaviour I mentioned above, very specific

ok, my bisect showed your name too

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2256#issuecomment-645485906

0.7 Compatibility layer by Learath2 · Pull Request #2256 · ddnet/dd...

This turned out much uglier then expected but I just don't have it in me to scrap this again. This "mostly" works, what remains is: Map Conversions Whispers Serverinfo

Why am I "coauthor", were you actually able to cherry-pick a commit @Learath2 ?

Well you actually wrote it, I just installed it

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Thought you should get credit for it

I wasn't even able to cherry-pick your rcon fix

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Yey :)

Why is it always things that are impossible to reproduce for me?

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Hm, I guess if it was reproducible for me it wouldn't be there to begin with

@deen What does it say when you try to connect

nothing

Is it just stuck connecting?

yes

Anything in the console?

[2020-06-17 18:54:53][client]: connecting to '192.168.0.2:8303'
[2020-06-17 18:54:53][host lookup]: host='192.168.0.2' port=8303 3

I'm absolutely lost

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I guess I'll just have to figure out how to do x11 forwarding

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and how to get x11 even working on new macOS

@Learath2 you can just use twping to reproduce

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no need for x11

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./twping ger.ddnet.tw to reproduce

(dd_pr_07)[learath2@l2mbp] ~/D/C/d/build $ ./twping ger.ddnet.tw
57730.5 ms

from linux I m ean

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GCC 10.1.0

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and nice ping btw

It seems to have some precision issue, my ping is 57ms normally

How is 0.7 support gonna working

0.7 players can connect to regular 0.6 servers

ah yep, twping indeed doesn't work

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should be a smaller binary to debug too

@deen when ddnet on steam pepesweat

@deen :O And the only problems might be Prediction problems like with hooktrough on vanilla?

yesterday

Isn't it possible to publish ddnet on steam?

We are still greenlit

greenlight doesnt exist anymore afaik

My client bisect just lead me to this commit

commit 2b1df782d3254227af5e2c3614cdad26ccb5bcde
Author: Dennis Felsing <dennis@felsin9.de>
Date:   Tue Jul 24 08:03:02 2018 +0200

    Version 11.3

 src/game/version.h | 6 +++---
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

When I realized that I added this version check on the serverside myself 2 months ago and even joked in this channel about how bad this hack is

https://github.com/unique-clan/unique-race/commit/71f60c965187fb46e37af0dd074281b39cbac7d0#diff-25bcc1bcfab43c7e0957ca2fa89fe34fR1505

Hack to show projectiles on old DDNet clients · unique-clan/unique-...

@snail but u can release

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cut it was accepted before

@snail yeah but being greenlit I think we are still allowed to release

iirc

Release it :(

@Trafalgar Law it'd be a waste without a tutorial

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Twping seems to send out it's request and get a response, but doesn't even recognize it

But tbh teeworlds(0.7) players are most from steam

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ddnet would become more players then now

the response even seems reasonable, I wonder why twping dies

a friend of mine saw teeworlds in "recent releases" or some shit on steam

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the other day

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it was highlighted to him

Maybe its time to add a tutorial :D

DDNet probably can't retain the new players without a tutorial

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teeworlds is simple enough

Teeworlds is based on ddrace/zcatch

What's most important about the tutorial is a good mapper willing to map it out

There is also no tutorial

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0.7 has non dm players xd

I'm okay with making all the required code stuff

And I mean ddnet is also simple

yes i agree tutorial would be good

Maybe you can't start with ddnet as your first gametype

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I didn't

And what would you suggest for your first gametype?

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And IMO ddnet is not a gametype :p

DDNet is a little too tough for a first introduction, you really need someone to teach you

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I tested this on a couple friends, they all had absolutely no idea how we did most things

I even think it gets harder to get into the game because the players are better now. I started with deathmatch on ctf5 and won a lot of games but today with that level of skill I'd loos every game

even when shown

Yea true, tried also with friends :D

one of my friends actually picked up ddnet very quickly and it was the first thing i showed him

@deen Ah, recvmmsg strikes again

so we should rls on steam anyway

How did this even work before?

but tutorial would help a lot because i had to show them how to do things. players who just come upon the game on steam would have no idea how to play

like the throws are second nature to us, we don't even notice that having weak changes the throw quite a lot actually

I mean how would you start with a tutorial xd There are many gametypes.. Atm you will thrown into the cold water :X

I coded some tutorial stuff ages ago and I thought about the map. There are a ton of decisions that go into making a starter map, I guess you'd need a starter to help you in the design process because most of us already forgot where you are when you never played the game before

Were we just getting lucky that compilers were noticing that pData could always point to the buffer of the recvunpacker?

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How though...

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recvmmsg has it's completely separate buffer, nothing should ever be ending up in the recvunpackers buffer

I mean you can do a basic map where you get all informations how the game works

@deen well twping should have been broken on linux since you first introduced recvmmsg

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not only twping but the client too

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I guess it was some weird optimisation beyond my comprehension

Tutorial= /map Basics

Nvm, I'm the dimwit that broke it

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still no idea wtf kinda optimisation clang is doing that makes it work

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again, stupid, no recvmmsg on macOS

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god

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I should have asked for brain cells for my birthday

xd

17:51

Learath take a break pepesweat

Learath2

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2270 Consider time_freq()

The timer ticks way faster on macOS leading to some insane pings :D

@deen I think you can actually test now, sorry for wasting your time...

no problem, you're spending way more time than I am

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I guess we could release on steam, but a rudimentary tutorial would help. otherwise we'll end up with most new players being confused

the tutorial pull request is only missing a map iirc

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if anyone is up for that challenge that would be amazing :)

@Patiga do you mean that thing i wrote years ago?

uh probably

heh, probably more work fixing the conflicts than rewriting the thing

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(please just leave it closed)

@deen Maybe do a announcement for a concept for a tutorial :D

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I think not everyone looks into github or in this channel

everyone should tho

ChillerNoob

:D

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github is such a nice hangout place

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btw btw @law have you liked https://github.com/topics/teeworlds already? So we can get teeworlds trending on github :D

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bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2270 Consider time_freq()

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bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

88780cb Consider time_freq() - Learath2 1ccce4a Merge #2270 - bors[bot]

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bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2247 Thread safe SQL interaction

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[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

b3d2220 Update credits - def-

Huh, I forgot we even had credits

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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

7063d13 Frontpage video - def-

i try to update them occasionally

Hello dear developers of best game in the world! I sorry for disturbing you are from your's work or smth else. But i have question to you are

its 1 am

23:39

but, u shouldnt ask to ask, just ask

oh thanks ^^

23:44

So, who giving master bans to other peoples?