DDraceNetwork - general

Ay boys

09:54

Any plans for steam release someday?

not really

Well it doesn't really hurt does it, in my personal experience it's hard to get friends into the game cos even downloading/installing it is non trivial.

you dont need to install anything

10:01

just download the client

You could see the "extraction" part as installing I thought but you're right.

thats trivial

It's really not for non tech savvy people, and whats worse is then having to locate the right .exe

everyone unpacked a zip somewhen

Yes but not everyone unpacked a .zip that contains a program and not some other files you can just open

10:05

Most of the times those people open a .zip is for a video file or penis enlargement pills ads that gave them a guide.pdf.exe cos they subscribed to spam

well if they know how to open steam they will know how to open programs in general

10:05

since steam is a program too

Yea but steam has an installer, a desktop icon and a start icon

so more complicated than opening ddnet

No more links to the same program so they have less trouble finding it

10:09

And non tech savvy people depend on those icons because it's one of the few things theyre familiar with

10:10

if you download the ddnet release you get 18 files at one glance with 7 of them being exes

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@jao I disagree. it's a lot easier to download the game on steam than it is to download and extract a zip

I've had people not wanting to download the game because the website looked to them as if they're downloading a virus, so that would also be a plus for steam

especially since many people already have steam installed

Exactly, and steam as a platform is something gamers in general are familiar with too.

why not release on steam :)

I think we delayed it for some time when we have a tutorial. which never happened

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=506147661

Steam Greenlight::DDraceNetwork

10:15

xD

10:16

yes I saw this yesterday and wondered

10:16

thats why I came to ask

10:16

(and my friends force me to play Teeworlds vanilla cos its on steam and it's a nightmare please take me out of here)

@heinrich5991 only if youre familiar with steam

@jao cmon, everyone uses steam

10:17

xd

nah xd

@jao most gamers use steam, so that's one group already covered

@jao you must realize how much knowledge lies in program execution and all the files related to them, steam doesn't even let you see the program, it simplifies everything down to "play" (edited)

yeah but if you have the knowledge to install steam u also have the knowledge to execute ddnet

related pull request: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/612

DDNet Tutorial by timakro · Pull Request #612 · ddnet/ddnet

Code reviews are very much appreciated! How it works When a client is started for the first time the following steps are happening. The player is asked for his language. A short explanation of DD...

ofc its easier to have it on steam if u use steam a lot anyways

10:20

but not like its ultra hard to use it rn

Is that the tut for the steam release?

before steam people were able to play games too

no, its the pull request for a ddnet tutorial, which was pretty much finished except for a map

Does the map run on local emulated server?

@jao no, executing steam is executing a downloaded executable. executing ddnet is knowing to unpack the zip and then executing an executable

and i think the reasoning was that ddnet should be more beginner friendly before it has a steam release

*executing the right executable

sadly that pull request kinda died over time

An UI/UX overhaul is really needed

there is no map

maybe someone making a video tutorial is good enough

10:22

xd

Noooo we dont want "good enough" xD

its very hard to make a good tutorial map

yea

cos level editing is limited

we dont have professional game designers

also, ddnet has too few short and easy maps

cuz current playerbase doesnt want that