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Between 2020-02-22 00:00:00Z and 2020-02-23 00:00:00Z
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epic crash link xd
05:55
@jao
06:02
@Christa cool spam
06:16
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no
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it was an act of vigilance
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can we change OldschoolAdventure from 1* to 2* plz
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ezmap
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takes 1 hr xd
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bony troll
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Somebody wanna play?
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Hey, i have concerns on how DDnet handles privacy polices. Is there any form of terms and conditions i agreed to by using ddnet? Furthermore it is my right to request what data of me is saved by ddnet and for how long, could you please tell me that?
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Hey, i have concerns on how DDnet handles privacy polices. Is there any form of terms and conditions i agreed to by using ddnet? Furthermore it is my right to request what data of me is saved by ddnet and for how long, could you please tell me that?
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Saves your tit pics as far as i know troll
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if you refer to me, thats no drama
21:15
could i please have my data?
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we are not storing ur personal informations
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@ScReeNy read the code and u can know what it saves
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damn nexus rly wants everyone to just stfu and play happy family
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That connot be true
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lol why not
21:37
how would they even get your personal information
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you can get some through ip adresses right?
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i got ur foot size screeny 👀
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no not really
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"Personal data is any information relating to an individual, whether it relates to his or her private, professional or public life. It can be anything from a name, a photo, an email address, bank details, your posts on social networking websites, your medical information, or your computer’s IP address." EU GDPR
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oh u right
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@ScReeNy if u have atleast 10iq u can figure it
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we arent storing that
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well at least u store emails in the forums.
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forum doesn verify if they are true
21:45
u can fake it if u care that much
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i bet thats all legaly covered in the phpbb stuff
21:45
phpbb has a thing when u register
21:45
u accepted it
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Well i asked if there are any terms and conditions earlier
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but thats ddnet forum
21:45
not ddnet the gamr
21:45
game
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Also i am not sure weather u store IP's, which are definitly personal data.
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@ScReeNy we're storing your IP address for one or two days in the server logs, afterwards, they're deleted
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ips are stored in every server u visit
21:46
any web
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no, storing them permanently is probably against the law
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atleast thats the default on web servers
21:46
i dont think so
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why would that be against the law if the ips arent linked to anything
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isps store ur ip for atleast 6 months
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some people have permanent IP addresses
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in their logs
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yes, all the provisions in the gdpr are "except required for lawful operation" (edited)
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@heinrich5991 isnt it about tying ur ip to some personal data? if u know only the ip u dont know much anyway
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depends on whether the person's IP address is static
21:49
which is the case in some countries
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you can generate a list of random ips and it would be the same irrelevant thing
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@ScReeNy so whats the thing ur concerned about
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doesn't really matter, gdpr requires you to have a privacy policy
21:50
I just stated ddnet's
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the answer heinrich gave me earlier is pretty much what i wanted
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Does anyone want to talk with me about privacy polices concerning ddnet in private? (edited)
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i just want to know who you would sue if you had a problem with ddnet
22:11
deen?
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Well he is listed in the Licence for copyright.
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yes lets talk about privacy concerns
22:15
i am concerned my real name "louis" is being used in their discord server
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fight it in american court and get 2mil
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why did u change ur name back to louis
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felt like it
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I wonder
22:19
arent Chatlogs personal data?
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chatlogs are probably deleted
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Does Teehistorian have chat?
22:20
hey
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aren't leaderboard ranks personal data
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"louis" has a lot of ranks
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that was my first thought, but apparently no
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even if it was stored
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what about ip bans
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i think u dont realize when theres no account and when its literally linked to nothing
22:21
its completely irrelevant
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its not "personal data" when it doesnt belong to anyone..
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ip bans are legal
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but if it helps to indirectly identify somebody it still is
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what about donations
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i know why ddnet admins dont make account system or make $ ranks cause then they would have to do a shit ton of legal stuff
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i disagree
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even accounts wouldnt be personal data @louis
22:25
to answer seriously
22:25
u register ingame
22:25
or whatever
22:25
its just a token
22:25
its just an handle and a password
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oh i mean like emails would probs have to be used
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dont think so
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if u forgot password...
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does kog use emails?
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and u could also just horde big names
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if there was an account system it would probably have terms and conditions that say they get your personal data. and then they are legaly fine
22:26
and its your fault if you agree. like everywhere else
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admins could make big bucks but choose not to
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"It is important to be aware that information you hold may indirectly identify an individual and therefore could constitute personal data."ico
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lawsuit time
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I mean i pretty sure i could identify louis
22:27
with data of ddnet
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i know where he lives his nicknames etc
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where do i live
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st louis
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he doiesnt have ddnet data
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i live in paris
22:28
and my name is snail
22:28
can i lawsuit discord
22:28
they can identify me
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ive said my age, sex, location in ddnet char
22:28
and my full names n stuff
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discord has privacy polices
22:29
i almost doxed myself
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i know louis
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@MoonrocK the domain etc registered on me, so sue me. but generally if you have reasonable complaints, we listen
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@deen can we ban racist and vulgar names
22:30
and sexist and nazist
22:30
etc
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@deen i complain my main account is banned for questionable reasons
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However, one other thing im not sure about is weather ddnet would be in the duty to publicly write down which information are stored and for how long
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@MoonrocK are u corneum
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for legal reasons no
22:33
why did u ban
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cause hes banned
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@louis let's start by removjng the WTF: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10070
WTF emotion drives me crazy... (Page 1) — Development — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!
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i wanted to know who he was
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replace with LAG emoji
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i still use no u emoticons
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just remove stupid vulgar crap
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@snail yeah kog uses emails but qshar just has a tos generated from a template
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its jot hard
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@louis if u sue ddnet and u lose u probs have to pay ddnet legal fees
22:41
greenthing
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no u dont
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u just have to pay for lawyers
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thats what legal fees means
22:41
idiot
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if u lose i wonr have to pay to ddnet
22:41
wait what
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if u lose u have to pay legal fees
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wjat h saying
22:41
i will win
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to ddnet
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day 1 of remove vulgar language
22:42
vulgar lang is not ilegal
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i mean after GDPR §13.1&2 you have to tell us that, for example u save our ips for 2 days from. This aplpies from the moment u save data.
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its stupid to have it in a 2d tee game
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@ScReeNy ur using windows right? ur already leaked
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This is not about privacy concerns towards my identity, this is about ddnet having a lawful privacy policy for its own good.
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thats a bit useless
22:45
then
22:46
also
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so we need to add a message on every server join
22:46
in the loading screen
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ddnet would have to pay 4% of global revenue if it violates gdpr, but ddnet revenue is currently negative
22:47
checkmate lawyer
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so you would get money greenthing
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You could make a terms of use in download section or something
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what if you dont download it from ddnet.tw
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u can check the ddnet client sourcecode
22:47
u control everything the client sends to the server
22:47
since u can modify it
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then maybe u add it to licence.txt
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this is useless
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what if your client doesnt include licence.txt
22:48
u can join with any client on ddnet
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doesnt the teeworld client have license.txt
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we cant add a licence.txt to non ddnet clients
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thats true
22:49
Maybe you should not be storing data then
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in the chat when u join a serv link yo a link
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what if ddnet.tw is down
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There are cases in which you dont need the consent to store data listed in gdpr §6.1 b-f, however they dont apply to this.
22:58
Well i cant tell you how you do this, i just say by law u had to
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are you a lawyer
22:59
thats why i told you on what my statement is based, so you could try to understand it urself
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you need to be a lawyer to understand the law
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storing IP addresses for two days does not belong to data necessary to provide the service?
23:07
also, no one can sue for gdpr violations, you report them to the office responsible for them
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I guess u are referring to $6.1b and i understand on how u interpret it. However im not sure weather in our case a contract is made and if it is actually necessary.
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