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is trashmap down? getting timeouts when creating server

12:17

nor join any on the list

Ddos

wtf did u rly change rifle -> laser and laser -> shotgun?

12:39

whats wrong with u

shotgun was never named laser lol

ah ye my bad, shotgun didnt change

12:50

just rifle -> laser

It was a 0.7 change and @ChillerDragon applied it to ddnet

why

12:53

just why

idl

12:53

k

it just confuses everyone

why is it so bad for you?

12:54

No

people were used to it, it was like that since forever

12:54

why change it after 1000 years

@fokkonaut hes jsut complaining for the sake of it

12:54

leave it be

ok

^

he even complained with wrong facts

12:54

kinda shows how far he would go just to whine

snail toxic

aight

there was no reason for that change

12:54

now i have to redo 20 binds or what

u have to redo 1 bind lol

12:54

uff such work

jao was saying it was dumb a month ago, everything was ok, now i complain about it its just trashtalking

12:55

ok

12:55

fair enough

you dont know my bind scripts

typical ddnet admins

unplayable

12:56

typical toxic players greenthing

oh, it was changed in user-visible ways?

for me it makes sense

my binds are server cmds

as a new player u expect laser to be a laser

12:57

not a rifle

why not allow both

ye i guess that would be better

oh, but it's an rcon command, so it's not that bad

there are no new players

I'd also go for laser instead of rifle first

@Jesus Christ’s Life matter!

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #2032 Restore rcon `rifle` compatibility shim

Two more lines to keep backward compatibility.

wtf snail

13:10

as an old player you expect it to be rifle

13:10

there are far more old players

13:10

so which one has a bigger impact tee_thinking

cleaning up unexpected quirks also has its benefits

@jao ye as i agreed keeping both is better

13:16

but clearly laser is more intuitive

13:16

than "rifle"

13:18

also "there are more old players so it should stay that way" is a bad approach imo

13:18

just because we've been used to something flawed and accommodated to it doesnt mean it should stay that way forever

13:19

(but i agree unnecessarily forcing ppl to change their habits is also bad if we can keep old ways while introducing a better one)

rifle makes no sense tbh

13:19

a rifle fires lot of bullets

13:19

this is just a laser

that was the plan for laser at first, thats why there are unused rifle bullets

@snail you can do such breaking changes on major version changes (like 0.6 -> 0.7) i dont see how it’s flawed it’s just a different name

well in that case its more about being counter intuitive

13:23

than a real flaw

13:23

still "clunky"

13:23

to have a laser named rifle

the real flaw is that sv_pausable is named sv_pauseable

lmao

If people get used to the rifle name now it makes it less annoying when updating to 0.7

14:01

If this is a real problem then it should be fixed in the upstream

in vanilla it's not exposed to the user

It should still be consistent

14:05

And names of sound files could be exposed to power users

wtff who calls the blue laser a rifle

15:30

the shotgun is shotgun and laser is laser

wtf who calls the sytoox a cha

waiting for the war between rocket and grenade

gun-pistol

lol

@deen how do you build curl for mac?

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/master/ddnet-lib-update.sh#L212

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thanks

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #2032 Restore rcon `rifle` compatibility shim

17:06

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

fe1cf90 Restore rcon rifle compatibility shim - heinrich5991 693b085 Merge #2032 - bors[bot]

Hi i found a bug with animations

21:39

when you use penalty tiles the animation doesnt change

21:42

so it is not tied to the gametime

21:43

like it says it does

21:43

when you hit synchronize