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Between 2020-01-09 00:00:00Z and 2020-01-10 00:00:00Z
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yo i got a question
03:38
bcs of the ddnet ts3
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i got banned before like 2 years ago idk
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reason: "you know why"
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i think 2y is enaugh ban maybe a bit more maybe a bit more light idk but loooong time
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so if some one would ask some whone who could ask some one who can unban me would be great
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ty
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❤️
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the ts3 is dead but idk ask whoever runs the serv
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laxa runs it
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:14:29Z
Cha: what do you mean by its dead ? Its been up and running since many years and some people are still coming
09:15
Bambikiller: its not your judgement to make. I have no idea what you did, but since I banned many people, I dont have people complaining about other's people behavior. I dont wanna make the police and deal with people issue. A banlife is a banlife, next time, think about your actions before actually doing them.
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:18:41Z
Another solution to not having to deal with peoples issue is giving them a bit of freedom 🙂
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:19:11Z
They are free to create their own channel and stuff on my teamspeak and go and leave as they want, isnt it enough ?
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They also have the freedom to switch to any channel and private message anyone
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This second part is actually what got some people banned, because they were switching to other channel to annoy people
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Or some other leaked some private pictures of others
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:20:09Z
Well seems like you spend some time dealing with bans
09:20
Leaks will find other ways
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:20:28Z
Yes, and I dont want deal with that
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:20:38Z
Yea then why do it :p
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:20:58Z
<ChillerDragon> Leaks will find other ways // this comments say it all. Because it will have other ways, it should stay unpunished ?
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:21:13Z
Hm
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:21:25Z
It really makes me angry to read such bullshit
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:21:27Z
Punishment is wrong anyways
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:21:43Z
I dont wanna have this conversation anyway, leads to nothing
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:21:44Z
It should be censored imo
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:21:52Z
you cant censor Internet
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:22:04Z
Punishment leads to anger and revenge in my opinion
09:22
You can’t ban the internet either
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:22:46Z
Yeah, but on my Teamspeak I can choose who to ban or not, thats the current topic
09:23
people have freedom, if they dont deserve it or dont follow the guidelines of the teamspeak, they are ban. Period.
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end of discution
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:23:11Z
:/
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:23:44Z
People not respecting the freedom of others should pay the consequences. Thats my opinion.
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:24:01Z
I see
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And who decides who has to pay the consequences?
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The person who does not want to deal with the details?
09:25
Imagine I filed a complaint with faked screenshots a dramatic story and a friend proofing it. Would you ban?
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:26:21Z
Yeah, thats a biased opinion but I tried to quickly analyze "every complaint" that was made. Most people complained about people switching to other channels. Its pretty easy to analyze with the logs.
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If I couldnt decide who was wrong or not in mood to deal with that, I just ignores it
09:26
but yeah, thats biased, I am not a judge or anything
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:27:22Z
Ok no but that sounds good 🙂
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Your „I do not want to deal with it“ scared me a bit
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But checking logs and ignoring on missing evidence sounds great ❤️
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I guess you do a good job there. Was just my weekly attempt in the war of bans.
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BTW isn’t it possible to rate limit channel hopping? Or even rate limit it for specific persons instead of banning.
09:31
Banning always feels like fighting the result of the problem not the actual problem.
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:31:27Z
it doesnt fix the problem. I dont wanna loose time finding the configuration for that then
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:31:46Z
Why wouldn’t it fix it?
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[quakenet] laxa BOT 2020-01-09 09:31:57Z
You can still switch channels
09:32
and I dont think teamspeak offer such feature anyway
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 09:32:17Z
But after a few times too slow to be annoying
09:32
Hmm :/
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https://paste.pr0.tips/Yp?c review my attempt at writing more c++ish code
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pls @heinrich5991 &&|| @deen
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 12:12:23Z
pstd ❤️
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Oh rip line numbers :/
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@Learath2 is FILE and fprintf c++? :p
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Not really, but those are only for debugging, they also triggered the elitist people in ##c++
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 12:17:46Z
😄
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Seriously, I thought ##C was unfriendly but that C++ channel...
12:19
if you aren't using smart pointers, 50 templates and boost, they just don't help at all
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 13:02:01Z
c++ sucks
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smart pointers can be nice
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that was @Learath2, not ChillerDragon
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But in this case, it'd be a lot of work
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@Learath2 I think this is a level of C++ where I can't really say much
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m_LastID is thread-unsafe and misnamed (it's the next id)
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you don't seem to like the = nullptr; initialization inside the class, do you? ^^
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Yeah, I hacked lastid in to let me draw the graph, I should get it threadsafe
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@heinrich5991 oh, I'm just not used to it
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I should definitely initialize like that
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can't you just use the node's addr as the ID?
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in C++, I think you'd not deal with function pointers but rather accept a template parameter for the function so that you can call it with lambdas
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I should also read up on std::function
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I don't think the nodes address would work with graphviz
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why not? I thought it can be an arbitrary string
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Well "-" didn't work too well in labels when I used -1 as null
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example dot input ply
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plz
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Eh, I can't really generate it anymore
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but I had l-1 as a node
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I am looking forward to write a script that will automatically take input from a file and declare the nodes and edges, and produce a graph that can be visualized in any visualization software. I t...
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sounds like you can use pointers as names
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the hyphen was probably the problem
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but stuff without hyphen should work without quotes I guess
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I see
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@Learath2 what r u working on?
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Getting used to c++17
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And learning katakana
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Im working a lot with golang
14:29
Good compiled language for backend
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Hi , i replaced https://update4.ddnet.tw/%s with my link and created update.json in my host with new version , but client does not read the update.json , when i launch DDNet client it says DDNet 12.8.1 is out! ( i changed the last version ) and when i press Update it says update failed. whats wrong?
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Bambikiller: its not your judgement to make. I have no idea what you did, but since I banned many people, I dont have people complaining about other's people behavior. I dont wanna make the police and deal with people issue. A banlife is a banlife, next time, think about your actions before actually doing them.
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Wtf are these words
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The reason I was banned is so dump
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:06:33Z
well do you know the reason they give it to you?
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I got banned bcs I chilled there and player who don't like me they go to a admin they know who ban me for no reason
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"you know why"
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Fuck ddnet admins I know 2 now and both of them really bad admins
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:07:48Z
i wonder if it's a new admin or it's from before 2 years
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well you can share your confidence here so those admins can be settled
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or mods i don't really know
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I hope good admin will see and make bad admin leave fucking ddnet
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I mean what ddnet got of those useless shit
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:09:31Z
then don't say it to jao troll
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the ts is not regulated by ddnet admins
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its laxas own personal ts and jhe was kind enough to let us use it
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But I am here to find a ts admin
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he answered
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hes the admin of his own ts and decides what happens on it
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:10:18Z
you can go to #off-topic for any manner tbh, here are just development reports and related stuff
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He is stupid af
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see it as a branded ddnet ts not an official one ran by us
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Laxa is fucking dumb
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whatever u say thats not helping ur case and wont get u unbanned lol
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:11:16Z
sounds like an old guy got accepted as mod
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also i personally would trust his judgement
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But I can make her mad
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Maybe she try now ask admin here to ban me xs
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:12:04Z
alright, one question since i dont have anything to argue, what can you offer as an example for your ban appeal?
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to get unbanned
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I got banned bcs player don't like me and go to admin they know to ban me I remember that and than cunt owner like laxa came and think they are right with it
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That's stupid
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For real
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:13:05Z
when was it? when you got banned
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2y ago maybe
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u got banned for leaking personal pictures
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Wtf
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?
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:14:02Z
so you did not abuse any manner of bug, not swear any higher role staff and not harm the server in any way
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hmm seems like 2 years without these reasons arent suppose to be this long
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No wtf haha no Haram
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:14:35Z
wait
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i see
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personal data sharing is really a crime i guess
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Uhh it's not blmap
GWlulurdWaitWhat 1
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Cellegen | HU 2020-01-09 15:15:15Z
especially if everybody can be harmed by this and targeted by anyboidy
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I think
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Ddnet and bw not same shit sorry for your bad arguments
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@Bambikiller lol if you speak wirh this kind of language i would have banned you too on my teamspeak. Why would i want people with a bad additude hanging around and ruining the mood. (edited)
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@n000b bcs sutch bad supporters like you exist i mean wtf is the problem i ask nicely and a bad supporter come so i get a bit harder and every one who portect the bad support is also not a good supporter ???? if you protect trash it wont get better here
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@n000b why no real supporter come to help me and the other supporter get a good communication ? or to help to solve problems
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someone already told u why uwere banned
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next dumb boy come
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yes just keep insulting everyone im sure that will earn u an unban
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go read all of the chat @noby and pls tell the same to all supporters here before they talk lioke this
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i did read
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for real if you read all
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you know its stupid
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why you like stupid shit why help them ???
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go help me
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tell them they are wrong
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you are a mod
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not a dick sucker
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wtf
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go support me maybe
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why (edited)
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if you read all
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you know they are wrong
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so ?
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how should i know theyre wrong
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bcs you told me
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that you read everything
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you liar ?
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wtf
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i mean no one serious can come here
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what do u think i failed to read that proves u right
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@Bambikiller tbh, you behave in such a way that if it'd be my decision, you would be banned for life also here (edited)
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ban me show me you all bad supporters
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no one is here to help me
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i ask for help you all go shoot me
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wtf
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You came here to ask for being unbanned, and after getting response that you won't be unbanned, you insult everyone
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dumb support
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why do u think u are owed help
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i tell you reasons
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including DDNet that has nothing to do with it
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you write me here
18:49
should we go pm
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Not worth even responding to You.
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or you wana show your stupidness here ?
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how is he the one being stupid
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noby for real shut up u r stupid aswell and a liar
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tell me you read all
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ahh
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suka
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i did read all
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i just think ur wrong
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what is the reason i am banned
18:50
i told you
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[9:13 AM] snail: u got banned for leaking personal pictures
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did U read?
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Congratulations for being added to my blocked users list, not worth wasting both the time and nerves
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haha
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noby i dont care you are bombay blmap admin of fucking BW servers
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i talk aboute ts3
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you know what ts3 mean ?
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team speak 3
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i dont care about block lol
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i hear now 5 times in 10h i am banned on v3royal map haha what that matter
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you talk aboute block
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yes
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ts3 server dead who tf cares
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lickout give me this ban bcs i send 1 ppl his fat face xd
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[12:52 PM] Bambikiller: you talk aboute block u
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calm down man
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you talk aboute lickout his ban @noby
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this isnt bombay discord
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you talk aboute blmap
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@jao tell that @noby
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im telling you
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no... im talking about what snail said, which has nothing to do with blmap
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lol jao
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this noby telling me i got bombay ban hahahaha
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lol
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stop responding then
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haha you exactly telling aboute my ban on bombay server from lickout
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jao you stop maybe
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i laugh aboute you
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they start talking aboute
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ok bye mate
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my ban there
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cya
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@jao you banned that idiot?
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Good job. One less
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 19:27:59Z
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Bois ipv420 with ips up to 999.999.999.999 xD
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I love how these movies always have some semi relatable elements and then they change it in a hilarious way
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It’s like tech comedy
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background is always falling binary
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with the "Attacking Firewall" green progress bar
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and they type non stop without watching screen
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ChillerDragon 2020-01-09 19:33:45Z
I wonder if it is made on purpose or people actually don’t know it better in the movie industry
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I mean I get that matrix style stuff looks cool but all the code snippets would look the same way if they were slightly less random
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i think its on purpose to look cool
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some movies have actual code if theres like a coder on the directing team
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but they usually dont hire a coder just for one scene
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it’s on purpose because it doesn’t matter
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it’s fast sequences and shit
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u cant notice it unless you pause
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