DDraceNetwork - developer

(nvm graphics tools are broken too, unusable)

00:07

but there's a website https://compresspng.com

Compress PNG Images Online

PNG compression and optimization tool to compress PNG images into PNG-8 format with transparency support.

00:07

this is fucking useful (edited)

Isn't it the same as the graphics tools at downloads?

how come ddnet always crashes when i open it when a youtube video is playing in the focused tab

01:38

or when i alt tab to ddnet when playing a video

if u found a way to always crash ddnet u should run it with a debugger and find which part of the code is responsible (edited)

it just turns the screen black and either take a minute to finally be able to close or just crashes my computer

01:39

yes it always crashes

01:39

do i run it through visual studio debugger?

idk on windows

idk how to do it

if u compiled the client then that sounds right

01:40

if not then idk, maybe xd (edited)

@heinrich5991 that one is my fav

@louis ye visual studio debugger is fine

11:54

compile in vs and then run in debug mode from visual studio

@louis if it crashes your computer, I doubt a debugger will be of much use, it probably crashes deep in the kernel or some driver

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@Cellegen | HU there is nothing wrong with the 0.7 map editor... I had also no problems porting maps to 0.7... idk what you do wrong

Well the image scaling on 0.7 is not automatic tho, i needed to manually upscale the picture and reduce it's quality to optimize it

14:03

otherwise bugs will happen

idk what that image scaling is

14:04

where do images get scaled in editor

fe: i had 600x600 pixel ratio on the picture

14:04

and 0.7 completely ruins the render cuz it cannot render less than 1024x pictures properly

??

so fuck i've spend 5 hours fixing my fucking picture to 1024x1024 so that 0.7 can properly render it

1024 sounds like a good minimu size anyways in 2019

it is, but my problem is, that 0.7 does NOT have support for different scaling values

14:06

while it still can be compiled

14:06

(the image to the client)

14:06

nicely, ddnet does

ehm... sry to mention but teeworlds always required you to use 1024x1024 anyways...

yeah, thats a problem anyway

14:07

at least it should force scale ratios onto pictures to match with the editor

no its not, in earlier tw versions the editor just denied adding a image at lower resolution (edited)

i know that, and that is why i said that 0.7 does not have great support over different ratios

so you miss the check?

14:08

i checked both the picture and the client, and seems like it cannot render properly less than 1024x1024 pictures

yea because internal everything bases on that resolution

well fuck that solution

14:10

i hate 0.7 editor

14:10

completely

but your problem has nothing to do with the 0.7 editor itself

14:10

just a missing check, nothing else

just what kind of missing check?

14:12

toward the picture or the client itself?

and the 1024x1024 resolution comes from the game internals because a block aka "pixel" (tee size) is 64x64 and you have 256 blocks (view from entities), so graphics have to have the same size

i think u are talking about ddnet's mechanics

14:13

its already been fixed this problem

I'm not talking about ddshit, but vanilla (and ddnet uses the same as well)

not kinda

14:13

its seperate af

I think ddnet may have implemented a scaling mechanism to fix such issues, thats all

yes, finally you see it why i hate 0.7 editor

but basically teeworlds requires 1024x1024 images, thats not a secret

but fucking hell i've spent 5 hours to compile a FUCKING PICTURE.

you can't expect the vanilla game to implement mod things

just for this

14:14

0.7 bs

14:15

thats not

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a mod thing

14:15

its a usual mapping requirement

I believe even 0.6 hadn't had a scaling mechanism

to make life easier

just use 1024x1024 resolution, whats your problem?

yes cuz they haven't thought about autoscaling

why should they even care about it?

my fucking god cant you understand?

14:16

I HAVE SPENT 5 HOURS TO MAKE A 600X PICTURE ONTO A 1024X PICTURE SO IT CAN BE COMPILED

14:16

5 hours.

14:16

fucking hell.

just use gimp and resize your image. so hard?

yes, there are different ratios, the printing quality, the different color dimensions, RESOLUSION etc

yea

14:17

and whats the matter?

14:17

there are good tutorials outside to do so

i dont wanna make a 2mb map duh

you don't have to

omg show me master

no time

then fuck you and dont waste my time.

but you have google/bing/duckduckgo/whatever, just use it

can somebody tell this autistic kid that its related to ddnet and not any programming manner?

well, I only wanted you to understand that your problem isn't a problem.... you could have read that you need 1024x1024 resolution and you could find ways to resize it. vanilla could have implemented resizing, but you shouldn blame them for missing that feature....

please do me a favor and accept a challenge, im gonna send you an image and spend the last 5 hours to compile it with 0.7 without breaking its rendering

14:20

but boy, it wasnt just resolution

14:20

it was the compiling

yea, understood your point. you wanted to keep the size

AND make it fairly optimized

14:21

so it wont go up to 1MB or higher

14:21

since its PNG

yea, and?

that. was. fucking. hard to do manually.

14:22

who the fuck wastes so much time just so that one picture would work

14:22

and i dont wanna talk about the rest of them.

14:23

i see you dont have a problem with it, cuz you dont fucking know how to map correct?

I have my problems with people complaining about things that are no things if you never got used to mods like ddnet. do you get my point?

feels like im talking to myself tee_thinking

yea, maybe because I don't have enough time to discuss it properly right now

14:28

btw autistic kid, you said. I'm a few % autistic (for real, yes) but not a kid

so, 5 mins left. @Cellegen | HU I have a question: do you still have your 600x600 image?

14:42

ik you also have a 1024x1024 one now, but I'm asking for the smaller one

14:44

I'm asking because if I recall correctly either ddnet or 0.7 switched the png library, that could be your issue then

ddnet didn't

upscaling an image to nearly twice the resolution is never a good idea... it will always look shitty, especially on 4k displays. no matter whether the client does it or you do it manually