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Between 2019-11-25 00:00:00Z and 2019-11-26 00:00:00Z
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@Learath2 i think the best way to learn to code is to make programs to solve your most basic issues
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for example i started making programs to do my homework
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i never rly finished a programming book
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and i only tried to start reading a c++ book
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books are old fashioned
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internet is ur best friend
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:24:48Z
Oh, so you are a skiddy? copypastemaster?
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:25:04Z
Can you even a hashmap without std::list?
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I bet you'd even use std::map directly
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i made my own double linked list in C its nothing complicated
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tbh im avoiding c++ totally lately
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i enjoy C lot more
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skiddo
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books are overrated
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you want to implement a hashmap? go to wikipedia to know how they work, then program it
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no need to spend 50€ on a shit book
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:27:48Z
50M? 50 Million what?
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what are u talking about
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:28:17Z
Oh, stupid terminal can't do euro signs
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i never said 50M
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fix ur shit terminal
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:28:25Z
Who pays for books anyways?
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:28:33Z
lol lea drunk?
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:28:55Z
A book is the only proper way to learn C or you end up like the dimwits I see every day over in ##C that ask stupid ass questions
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:29:13Z
a += a++; help, why is my code not work?
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didnt know u were that old fashioned
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expected more from you
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:30:25Z
If you are learning C, you learn from a book. If you want to learn whatever newfangled language you want, go ahead and learn it from whatever indian youtuber you want to learn from
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:30:50Z
i cant even afford a book sir
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I MEAN M'LADY
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i never watched a indian yt i never read a c book
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u are rly closed minded my god
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:31:14Z
The nature of undefined behaviour makes C a venus flytrap for beginners that know no better
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I've spent dozens of hours helping people who refuse to read a book and just bang their heads against C for hours
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well you havent met me then
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:32:08Z
Exceptions don't change the rule
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or maybe u are rly into ur own circlejerk of book ppl
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:32:31Z
Besides, I don't know if you pass rigor anyway.
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not open to other ways
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i dont know if you pass rigor
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definitly
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:32:58Z
@Ryozuki no offense but I literally spend atleast 2-3 hours a day helping people with their C problems
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lol no offense not my problem ur mad about helping ppl 3 hours a day
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like i would care
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:33:28Z
I've seen more of a sample size then you is my point
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:33:32Z
well that's somewhat helpful for them, but not about your healthiness
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sure ur own circlejerk
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:33:40Z
You keep telling me i'm close minded. I've seen more then you
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nah ur rly close minded
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:34:42Z
Fine @Ryozuki drown in your ego instead of accepting that maybe I know a little more then you given I spend so much time actually teaching people the language
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i think ur the one with lot of ego here boy
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me myself and i is the only correct here - learath
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eat ur fcking ego
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:35:19Z
i agree, ryo just makes his statement for a reason
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and we see it exactly here
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:35:28Z
I justify my claims, with atleast statistical evidence. You just swear like a child
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yeah statistical circlejerk
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:35:38Z
Your evidence is yourself
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yeah i evidence ur bullshit
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thanks
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:36:01Z
Sorry but 1 person is not of statistical significance, even if it's someone as GRANDIOSE as you
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who is the one who thinks is grandiose here? hmm?
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:36:19Z
monkaS im sorry did i hear myself in that?
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maybe ushould go to sleep
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:36:53Z
I'm not the one pointlessly insulting the other party in an argument
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yeah ur point is reduced to that
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poor child
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:37:19Z
well between me and ryo, im trying to be kind especially for understanding purposes
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what are ut alking about cellegen
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:37:55Z
he did involve me as grandiose
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nobody talked about you
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:38:05Z
who else would he mention then?
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:38:14Z
bye
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:38:40Z
My point is very simple. I've seen a lot of people learning C. I actually spend time teaching C. I'm yet to see someone learn proper C without resorting to a book.
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Your point seems to be that I'm in a cult of some sort?
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I don't get which part of me knowing more about the semantics of learning C offends you so much. Given my argument solely stems from the fact that I've seen more people
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:40:47Z
so you say that the only way to learn C properly is to buy or rent a book, read it all the way and understand all of it? does not the internet evolved into a platform with every information gathered in one place aka google?
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i think u can learn just as well from the electronic version of the same books (.pdf)
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:42:02Z
Ofc you can use a pdf. Another way to put what I'm saying is that, there is a huge lack of resources, especially quality ones w.r.t. C
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:42:35Z
yeah, people will be on their goal who takes time and pressure on themselfs
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:42:57Z
You can learn some kind of C from tutorials. But most of them are riddled with errors and even if you go off of resources that are correct, it's likely you will run into undefined behaviour
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Which is not trivial to diagnose at all, as you'd know if you'd seen some of the examples in that article on the llvm blog or maybe even experienced yourself
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:44:24Z
i mean not all tutorials stand for one meaning, different ones exist for a reason, you just need to find which one is for you to start
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:44:31Z
But I digress, I'm talking to a wall because @Ryozuki just skipped town after calling me a child
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:44:50Z
he always does greenthing
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🧱 a wall so funny
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you can learn about ub without the need of a fcking book
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:46:43Z
@Cellegen I'd agree for any other language out there. With C and C++ it is just very tricky to get right. There is a popular tutorial series by Zed Shaw e.g. Learn C The Hard Way
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your the one with the big fat ego to think ur way of learning is the only proper
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:47:00Z
The guys tutorial is full of issues that he refuses to fix.
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but you have always been like this
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x thing is the only good one
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countless times
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no point in arguing
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:47:38Z
I already acknowledged that exceptions do exist @Ryozuki you claim to have learned C fine.
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:47:56Z
i mean i wont discuss people who recommend things people want
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idk whats wrong with that
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:48:10Z
I'm just saying it's not the experience many people have with learning C
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:48:14Z
maybe the flex but besides that
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i didnt make this just with C
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with all the languages
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its my way of doing things
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and it works rly well for me
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:48:47Z
With any other language, just go ahead and learn however you want, I wouldn't even argue
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All the more power to you @Ryozuki
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:49:25Z
ryo, what advices would you recommend?
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idk apparently im the exception here u should do whathever
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im rly bad at explaining myself so good luck
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Cellegen | HU 2019-11-25 00:49:51Z
thx for the advice (edited)
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[quakenet] Learath2 BOT 2019-11-25 00:51:24Z
You are especially mean today
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@jao for the record, I'm not drunk
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hi , how can i insert failed_sql into database?
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Just run the file as sql
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@Learath2 ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 2840 in file: 'failed_sql.sql': You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near '%s_race(Map, Name, Timestamp, Time, Server, cp1, cp2, cp3, cp4, cp5, cp6, cp7, c' at line 1
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Hmm, do you not have a prefix configured?
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Anyways, the %s needs replacing with the prefix
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ooh, we don't add the prefix in the file anymore I guess
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Yeah, but actually we could do that
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@Learath2 thanks , i replaced %s to record and now it working.
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[quakenet] asdasd BOT 2019-11-25 18:38:53Z
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