DDraceNetwork - general

@jao's hairy kebab yo

ddos again?

08:16

or why i can't find ddnet servers

yes, still

09:12

You should still be able to connect, but it takes a while

LMAOOO

Cant we make a bot who mutes everyone for an hour who ask why servers are unplayable/ who starts talking about ddos?

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or a bot that writes "its ddos" everytie someone asks

"just add account system bro"

Any idea behind why all these ddoses? Who wants to spend their bandwidth ddosing teeworlds :S

Someone with no life

@n000b why don't make a bot to unable ddos instead

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11:24

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i have the fix

12:48

boolean ddos = false;

or ddnet servers could reroute all the inbound ddos traffic to the ip of @louis so he stops posting dumb spam

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go ahead my ip is 127.0.0.1

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@n000b why don't make a bot to unable ddos instead He's too dangerious to be kept alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9CDWCRubbc

Grk0ne

HellFly top 1 especial halloween epico

14:42

Grk0ne especial haloween epico

Nice London

14:47

Spaniard

@Newbie @n000b It's much cheaper to attack than to defend. So with 5 € / month you can easily take down 50 € / month worth of servers. Since we've had these attacks intermittently for many years now and have been unable to do anything about them, don't expect anything to change.

@deen Yea but I mean whats the point, they could just ddos some lowballer company and extort money, instead of just wasting bw

heyo anyone here who wanna test my map? its a brutal 2 player ddrace

Have any clue whom it might be?

"Some men just want to watch the world burn."

16:09

No clue

Thought about implementing some protection? Rerouting etc? At this point the extra lagg would be better than not being able to play at all ^^

16:10

Might not be targeting ddnet specifically? Just your host?

it is clearly a teeworlds attack

You can play btw, you just can't get serverinfo and connecting takes a bit longer

theyre trying to down my server too and all of the packets are things that only a tw server would reply to

Yea maybe, but hard to find nice servers with maps i havnt finished ^^

We get spoofed packets for both serverinfo and joins, so how could we tell whether they come from a real player or are spoofed?

16:12

Hm, actually we could see who contacted info.ddnet.tw and keep that as a whitelist

Unique handshakes with mass delay

u cant tell

16:12

thats the problem lol

Or cooldown might be the word for it

u have to just find a really optimized way to reply to all of them

we don't want to reply to all serverinfo requests since then someone can use us to do a reflection attack on other targets

and if they send more requests than the link can handle (they currently arent) then its literally unfixable

But they are sending teeworlds packages? Like someone literarily hate the game that much? Is there any new drace mod out trying to remove competition?

but yeah, we also have quite cheap servers, so their network link is overloaded atm

yes its gie3 / fstd / TKEN packets which are only for teeworlds servers and no

16:13

the network links are not overloaded with the traffic that shows on ddnet.tw/status i assume ?

16:13

noby@teeworlds:~$ vnstat -l
Monitoring eth0...    (press CTRL-C to stop)

   rx:    35.00 Mbit/s 67715 p/s          tx:    23.60 Mbit/s 29497 p/s

16:13

im getting this the last few days

16:14

nothing even close to affecting the link, but enough to lag an unmodified tw server enough to be unplayable

I think they are, it's probably more about the packet number than the bandwidth

with modifications it is playable

well, I can't ssh into the servers anymore, so that's why I think it's the network

ohh

16:14

rip

16:14

so it is more packets/sec than the display on ddnet.tw/status shows?

honestly don't know

16:15

that's all that reaches the server

16:16

maybe we have some misfiring iptables rule

ddos ddoser

it's probably a DoS attack, not distributed btw

16:17

just with spoofed ip addresses

16:17

also, we won't resort to any retaliation, especially illegal ones

Ddos ddoser xd

reroute to my ip ill tank

What's the point

one for the team

It would still being unavailable to join server then