DDraceNetwork - general

el EX 2019-10-27 00:13:40Z

Np

wtf needs every new map a uroboros/aled part

00:18

its fucking annoying tryhard shit

ye

00:18

shitest invetion

its ok to have it in 2-5 maps

00:19

but its nearly in every new map

00:19

its always the same shit hammer

00:20

there is nothing new or creative in uroboros/aled

00:22

i dont have the time and energy to tryhard that shit

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What’s uroboros/aled @<BµmM>

00:25

@Ryozuki explain pls

00:25

Gay hammer through 1tile freeze?

cant connect to my local hosted server, firewall is configured to allow it

00:26

anyone got an idea

@el EX yes rhat is it

ye that shit 1tile freeze hammer

F3

Ppl did it years ago Why it becomes popular now?

boring

cuz people think they are cool when they overuse it in every part

They found a trick to make it more consistence

Is jao still Tester?

Ofc

Now we know why so much shit is released

Lol

Classic peter principal

Better blame the mappers then (edited)

Google it

I think the quality of released maps was never this high

00:32

So go play ddmax if you prefer that more

Ok

00:33

Wanna play? Need Mate for KitKat 1

I dont have a pc or laptop monkaS

00:34

#useless mod

U mod?

00:35

Oh

It seems i am for 1,3 y now

Thought u r nooby

Hehe cant disagree with that either i guess

1,3years. U count months?

No i count days

I applied as admin once

00:37

They didn’t want me

admin

Lmao admin

oh why i dont see the devloper channel anymore

maybe you have "hide muted channels on"

nibba

@Felix | legEnder your client might have trouble overwriting the ddnet-info.json file in config_directory

08:19

try deleting the existing ddnet-info.json file

Hello

@jao

09:58

delete pls

09:59

milk map

There are no ger solo servers

make one dum dum

Good idea

Lol

"WARNING: Master server is not responding, switching master"

@Moderator who just funbanned me

10:42

just to let u know i have demo

10:44

Nice, talk to an admin about it and not make drama

im doing it right now, thanks

Lmao

Hello dear community Teeworlds heartw

done

11:36

xd

fixed

wait what

11:42

this map is released

11:42

??

11:43

where is #announcements message

@Gwendal there was an message

well no ?

11:45

or it got deleted ?

Oh i see it only in #map-releases

11:46

So yeah they forgot

most likely

Not really important but

release was broken

11:49

we dont post it manually

Makes sense

added the announcement message

@deen didnt work sadly, as i said i already deleted the whole folder before

Anyone knows how to put transparent background to white background in paint please ?

use gimp :p

15:23

or paint.net

^

15:28

or krita

Okkkk

gimp is the perfect choise to edit pictures either professionally or hobby wise. Krita can be a full drawing / scetching / animating program but not an editing one. And paint.net.... who the fuck are you

paint.net is good for such stuff

paint 3d

draw ur pixels with python

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idk for me paint.net's tools just makes it harder to edit

16:39

in python wtf

cellegen will do it in unity

will do what? compiling? absolutely

16:44

16:44

once i get my pc back from repairing

16:45

i'll start doing it eventually (during free time)

cellegen will do it in http (edited)

I wish I could draw

Gimp is perfect for that!

17:25

And easy

stop faking people

17:26

whis u bastard

Vali and me just switched the name holyfuck

17:27

cry more

nice

so why u ddosing troll

17:29

i dont ddos feelsbadman

sad pepe noises

u r even more cancerous person than konsti and cellegen, u r not selfaware how dumb and cringe u act @Deleted User

17:30

i mean, idk how old u r

17:30

maybe u r just young

@Jesus Christ lmao calm down whats wrong with you xD

oh wow thats so nice of u feelsamazingman

17:30

is that normal?

always when im here

sorry i used u as example cellegen, but u fit well (edited)

kind of but not like konsti tho

17:31

i dont act like a nazi justatest

17:32

i hope i wont be banned for that

17:32

fv

but only if i say in front of jao that "konsti has a point of trolling german people" monkaS

oh

ye jao does not like konsti at all

17:33

for fair reasons

^^

17:34

he wont like me too feelsbadman

if you dont talk shit like me, then you will be fine greenthing

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ur not a gangster

no im the paradise

the truth is u r rly annoying person, whis, and u annoy everyone whenever u talking ur bullshit with overused pepe emoji and shit

whistroll

just dont read our messages

17:35

like, i dont hate u personally, u just annoying kid

@plsplsplslol huge troll

why u change ur name to fluffiexD

just block me so u cant read my messages?!

17:36

big troll

u trol

U

ok maybe i kind hate u

jesus, dont ya think im more annoying tbh?

no

u are not even the real dashie fcking faker

idgaf if a **** hate me

@Cellegen | HU u maybe sometimes talk nonsense, but u atleast try to act smart

17:37

this dude is pure idiot

xD

17:37

lmao

17:37

childish

alright i can argue xd

17:38

im not smart at all with having conversations cuz im not socially prepared for "society"

17:38

so maybe youre right

lul im a little introvert

wait why the fuck am i arguing bout that

u a disgrace please, i beg you, change your pic

ill save this

8

ofc im stupid look at me and you'll see pure stupidness

1

17:41

@ScReeNy me? yeah i should change this shit picture of mine

yours is beautiful

meh

its funny

but its made by the kog kommunity

poor picture missing completely

17:43

where jao says "im gonna say the f word" feelsbadman

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i'll save this one too https://i.imgur.com/Sfmkh2i.png

Gwendal where my 2€

what is record for most players online

730

wow abcqwerty smart

u

Didn’t Starkiller finish Memento Mori?

ye with bot

Lul Ban him for 2 months Otherwise ppl won’t fear botting and continue less obvious Only delete the botted rank is not enough

But less obvious bots are easier to detect

the guy who botted it is perma banned

@jao did u remove rank?

20:18

nvm obvoiusly did

ofc

did n9 finish it legit

No

is that rank deleted?

No

he did tho

He’s doing it smarter

20:19

Who finished for starkiller?

20:19

Men of steel?

lol whos perma banned

20:20

ah syltox

I would ban cc too

yes

+ delete ranks

yes

yes pls

not becaus ehe bots but to troll him

I don’t get why changing your name is enough to avoid a lifeban

xd

20:22

because you cant ban every name and there is no account system

Everyone knows his new name

20:22

When he gets above 1000 points just reset

yes but when he moves on and on he gets 3 names banned

Then just delete ranks

cant we just have client side anticheat

its not easy because of teamranks

Change botters rank to nameless tee

but then its kinda wrong

just have client side anticheat

20:24

you have to be playing on ddnet client to rank

Oh right Then just delete So ppl won’t play again with the botter Tactical lifeban

BTW I dont understand why people care so much for rank on such a game like teeworlds

i mean..

20:25

you're wrong

well imagine on your favourite singleplayergame, somone would delete your furthest savefile or whatever

20:26

nobody cares except you

deleting legit ranks is meh

no if its syltoox rank :d (edited)

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yeah, deleting sytoox's legit ranks is fire

just fkin ban them

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20:28

i dont understand

20:28

oh hes cheating, let's just remove the cheat ranks

20:28

that doesnt' dissuade them at all from cheating again

20:29

??? I don't know why everyone is trying to just come up with these magical "solutions" to botting, just ban them the right way

@jao what would you say how good your punishment is, how many of the botters did it again. actually wonder

20:29

i think sytoox is really the exception

ye even u did it again

but not since the second time. i know you wont believe that tho

i guess its close to as fair as it gets with what we got

thats what i think too. especially if a player bottet like 1% of all his finishes, and only for a short period of time (edited)

bruh so

20:33

i commit 1 murder as a doctor, but i save 500 people

After all we have to accept the fact of botting in open source games and we cant do much for it. More than half of players have used or using a bot. Ban its not really a good solution

therefore i shouldn't be punished

20:34

that's what you're saying

the first bans were too lenient tho

no.

20:34

i never said dont punish them

that's literally what you were saying

20:34

yeah

20:34

punish so little

aha

okay we're gonna fine you 5 bucks only cause you saved 500 people

cant argue with someone like you

btw dont compare real life to a game, its just dumb

yeah cause i'm right

20:34

you can make analogies to anything

20:34

no

your comparison isnt even relevant

it's like the botter is a doctor right?

killing people isnt equal to botting in a game

the botter is a doctor, wow he saved 500 people but murdered one person

20:35

we're just gonna take away his knife he used for murdering

20:35

smaller punishment cause he still saved a lot of people

20:35

it's literally that

20:35

you guys are making the bans so marginally small

20:35

that it doesn't even affect anything

20:35

that's why you still have bots

and how is botting like killing someone

they're both negative?

so much in common

20:35

xd

i don't understand what you're saying. analogies don't have to be congruent situations

you act like we have a big amount of players botting. but as i see it almost nobody does it

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botting doesnt actively hurt anyone

yes it does

20:36

it discourages people from playing

ok im done

because why should i try to make a good rank if some bot is just going to top it effortessly

you can reverse a botted rank, you cant reverse a murder. right now there are no botted ranks online. so what

20:37

you werent hurt

@louis Go ahead and download a bot if you think you will have more fun. You wont! Its just a game! And a open source game. Ranks are not real or in-game money! Ignore them and have fun

okay sorry, it's not a murder, it's just an injury

20:38

sorry for that tiny inconsistency in an analogy that really just bothered you and had no difference anyways because you can't see what i'm trying to say in the big picture (edited)

20:38

@mohsen7s haha ignorance is bliss

scrap that weird analogy. a bottet rank destroys your rank for a period of time only. if you suspect a rank to be botted just contact jao. if you would have been nice to him he might look it up for you. but i doubt he'd do it now

ye if you actually know people who bot, send me a dm with proper evidence

noby is a bot

and dont report people because they are "too good to be true" pls

@louis You can't ban all of them cuz only few player are really against cheating and care about it

you guys are going to be dealing with botters for the rest of your life because you're too scared to perma ban people

yeah let me know how u perma ban someone on a game with no account

20:41

considering most of ppl have dynamic ips nowaday

20:41

s

Release download link for replay bot

even if you permaban people you will always have to deal with botters

@louis If we ban bots we lose over 50% of players. Do you know only a few have official DDNET client ?

how many botters were banned in the last 3 months? who still bots in 2019???

I do

ban))

But no one know

ban him

there are definitely people botting, just like in every game

20:42

but its also a minority

20:42

ppl complaining about botters are clueless ones randomly claiming shit

20:42

and making assumptions

do you check ranks that have no real proof tho?

what do u mean

ranks that just are a bit fishy

sometimes

is it hard to look up?

well

You don't have less bot Im'corneum. They are able to do it discreetly

u can only detect it if he makes a mistake obviously

20:44

since its a manual work

fucking shitass game no anticheat

stop being stupid

20:44

even csgo has bots

20:44

and its developed by a billion dollar company

xD

at least they do something about them

there is nothing you can do against replay bots

They don't care about it

u nobo louis

yes u can

20:45

just make client side anticheat

20:45

make people not able to play on sketchyass clients

Disable ranks poggers

replay bots are hard. one lagg and your cover is blown. trust me @plsplsplslol

how do u make client side anticheat in an open source game

as long as we are open source

20:45

thats not possible

yeah exactly

20:45

just dont go open source (edited)

lol maybe

ye and then youre complaining about no new features

@Im 'corneum just dont lag ahaha

because people cant contribute

20:46

which one is more important to you?

not open soruce to the average person..

20:46

you can still have people help

the 5 people who bot or the qol features you use every day?

true... idk how good a replay bot could bypass if i had better internet. but i defenetly couldnt savely use it

Then eveybody with a good connection is able to use a replaybot ?

you cant have random people help

20:46

they could just leak it

20:46

lol

That's nice restriction

Im still interested to know why somebody would care for rank on teeworlds! If you want to be No.1 run your own server and dont let anybody play there except you. [kidding]

not random people

20:47

i mean there's well known people who contribute to the code

20:47

it's just just random people

Implement replaybot in the next DDNet client

and how can u 100% trust them?

20:47

u never interacted with them

? if the code is released just interrogate

lol

or like remove sketchy people

@mohsen7s where do you draw the line? at what size of game should we start caring? other games call it WORLD RECORD. we dont, but they are

wait how do you do it with the client ids

definitely sounds like a good solution

just make everyone play only on ddnet client id, won't that work

20:48

or something similar

you seem to know exactly what youre talking about

if the code is leaked its over

20:48

whats the point of "interrogating" (edited)

even i have a client that can change the ID

Ban corneum

just change the token or whatever used to identify the client

20:48

?

20:48

if it's leaked then you make it no longer work

that would require people to always update their client

20:49

and u would need to react fast

@Im 'corneum I mean on a game like SA-MP or maybe a RolePlay game which involves money, city, car then maybe but botting in ddnet doesn't hurt anybody! Lets say we will remove top ranks, what do we do with ranks between 10 to 1000. Do we have to check every single record !?

I too late to fight against them Just play with them #releasereplaybot

i really dont know what you mean

jao but the updates will have to be every time someone leaks

@mohsen7s botting "hurts"playeers aiming for the competitive speedrunning aspect of the game

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20:51

but once again its so minor

20:51

its always the same shit ppl crying because someone is "too good to be legit" but as soon as u ask a botted rank/map to be shown u get nothing

in bigger games people would bot to get in the top10. in tw if you bot you wanna go for rank1 or rank2 if you dont want to be in #records

20:52

so you have to check less

and ye

20:52

in the end

20:52

when the guy bots just to finish maps and wants to get unnoticed

20:52

as shitty as it is, it doesnt hurt other players at all

yes it does

Hum ? Why we should play for points if everyone can only use bot to get more points ?

it pushes the rank of everyone else down

Then remove points

exactly (edited)

why do u care about other ppl

who cares about his rank if its below top20

no

20:54

we're not talking about ranks, we're talking points

do u only play to brag about having more points than the other guy?

20:54

lol

20:54

poitns are a personal achievement

if a botter bots to like 10k points, he's hurting all those hundreds below him

@snail I do agree with you for FNG, Football, Zombie, or any mod but I cant understand why would players care for aiming speedruning in DDRace

@mohsen7s what

Points are useless if you don't compare to each other

points give you a place of where you're standing

what do u think "Race" in "DDRace" stands for @mohsen7s

more points give you a better feeling that you put time into the game to be good

20:55

okay? everything can be said to be useless if you don't compare it to anything else

@snail Do you enjoy the finishing a map or you enjoy for your rank ?

both..

20:55

people enjoy both

20:55

dude

i actually dont give a damn about finishing

20:55

i care way more for high ranks

different people different goals lol

yeah

@louis wanna buy some points, so u feel better? 100 Points = 3,99€

i like the points not the rankpoints

not funny didnt laugh

But like you said, we can't do anything with it. We need to deal with bots, but that's normal to "cry" when you can't even play in a server with legit players

yeah but thats not the case here

20:57

so stop being bitchy

lmaoo shut up snail what do you even do on the staff team

ohhh

Ohhhh

xD

(obviously not fixing the botting problem)

I have a suggestion. Limit Insane and Brutal servers to have only official DDNet client. I dont think anybody care for ranks on novice and moderate maps

no lol

bruh if you do it for insane and brutal why not for all

easier maps are also rly nice to speedrun

20:58

its way more precise

You can't do it, there are too much player without DDnet client

them make them play on ddnet client

20:59

what do they need some other junk client for

20:59

vanilla sucks

20:59

ath is hacks

20:59

?? idk any others (edited)

And I agree with snail, it's more funny to speedrun a short easy map to get perfect move

you cant force ppl to use only ddnet client

You can't force them to move on DDnet (edited)

yeah u can

21:00

say no client, no play

21:00

easy

and lose 50% playerbase xd

50% is exaggeration

On a small community, that's stupid

bruh

@louis Personally I dont use DDNet but I dont also use bots. I would quit ddnet or will play somewhere else if such restriction applies

people aren't gonn quit the game just cause they have to play ddnet

21:01

except you

I'm not sure

on what is that statement based

21:02

ur internal poll with urselfd

21:02

?

people would only quit if they're using bots on their other client

21:02

what do other clients have to offer except bots

21:02

that isn't easily integrated into ddnet client

@louis Do you know people can cheat and bot in closed-source games too ?

many kog players were playing on ath, without bots ofc, and after qshar started banning it they werent happy with it

allthehaxx literally has haxx in the name

21:03

@mohsen7s ok?

ath has a stealth mode

i knew that

ye, but there is stealthmode and also a version without a single bot

You'll be surprised to see how many players on vanilla client play on DDnet and don't even know DDnet client

if they arent happy that means they are using cheats that you cant use with stealth mode on

lmao

21:03

nobody does that

how would u benefit on using aimbot and shit on gores

literally nobody past 100 points

21:04

bruh you can write scripts to do 1 block gores

@louis Its not possible to force people to use DDNet client while DDNET its open source

playing ddnet sucks on vanilla

21:04

u have no antiping

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That's why there are so many beginners who can't even hammerhit you on popular maps

they just suck

there is no proper way of enforcing a client restriction in a optn source client

21:50

every client can disguise as ddnet client