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i upload to github so you can see.

how i upload? xd i get error 403

00:19

everything works normal expect it closes when i click the texture button i tried to add

am i not allowed to upload to ddnet github or so? (edited)

04:05

xd

04:07

the crasj error is Exception thrown: read access violation. "this" was "0x10" (edited)

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

9b24b72 A milk - ddnet-maps

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1951 Texture change option from ATH

Hi, I am not good at coding. I tried to add the Texture change option from AllTheHaxx Client (https://github.com/AllTheHaxx/AllTheHaxx) to DDNet. When i click on the Texture button i added i get the error : Ausgelöste Ausnahme: Lesezugriffsverletzung "this" war "0x10". Exception thrown: read access violation. this was 0x10 Sorry i am bad in coding and just copied.

oh ok worked

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1857 Add cl_show_quads 2 to show all quads in entities

08:30

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1910 [DON'T SUBMIT] Super hacky image embedder (makes maps compatible to 0.7)

[ddnet:master] 4 new commits

5b514e5 repair the problem that class selector appear when demo playing - sirius1242 aaddc49 recovert the if-else block - sirius1242 926414c remove the redundant line - sirius1242 4717b21 Merge #1934 - bors[bot]

08:42

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1934 repair the problem that class selector appear when demo playing

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #1800 Array bounds warning

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1952 Remove for loop in camera

I don't know if this makes it faster, probably not even noticable, but i like it more this way.

I was planning on also adding smart zoom

12:06

and also a feature i thought would be cool

depenidn on speedß

a team zoom

?

it zooms out depending how far each meember is

12:06

and the camera is centered

ah

based on players

12:06

if one player is too far then its ignored

depending on speed would also be usefull

1

12:07

u want too see far if u fall down a big part for example

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to *

12:07

omf why i always put random amount of 'o's in my tooo's

by team zoom i mean

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team spec

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you spec a whole team

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the camera smartly shows all players

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if they arent too far

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by zooming and centering based on all player positions

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yy sounds good

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

2bf76aa remove for loop in camera - Ryozuki c3e4bbc Merge #1952 - bors[bot]

12:27

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1952 Remove for loop in camera

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1953 Fix crash when switch (un)deep number is 0

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1953 Fix crash when switch (un)deep number is 0

15:43

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

f66dc75 Fix crash when switch (un)deep number is 0 - 12pm 45cfebc Merge #1953 - bors[bot]

@Learath2 idea: if you rework teams, remove the team identifier completely. you join by saying who you want to join or saying that you want to create a new team

@heinrich5991 I can do that, after you take a look at my commit and help me address the concern i have with the performance hit of creating a new world

blurb

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21:49

I have a negative time budget right now

@heinrich5991 getting rid of the team identifier is a good idea though

21:52

Just a /teamcreate and a /join

how do you choose the team to join then

21:54

(team from someone else)

@jao you do /join <the person you want to join>

then you can’t have a quick team bind if you play dummy maps anymore

uhm yeah that is true

why not?

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/teamcreate;/join <mainname>

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dummy switch in between

then youre forced to play with that name

well, rn you're doomed if you try to join a team which is already occupied

22:08

hm

and you also need a seperate dummy team bind

22:09

what about making /team with no argument put u in the first empty team

I see no reason to keep team ids

22:10

we can have something like a team password or so, but exposing the raw team ID to the players seems like no use

22:10

e.g. you could do /teampw abcdef or so

but its simple and easy to use

nah

22:11

it's awkward and exposes weird server details to the user

how is it awkward

why do we display a weird number with each team?

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why are we only allowed to pick between team 0 to 63?

22:12

because it was the easiest implementation

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I feel like you cling to it right now instead of trying to improve it(?)

22:13

e.g. the thing I proposed is strictly better, no? "11:10 PM] heinrich5991: e.g. you could do /teampw abcdef or so"

i dont think its weird

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same as how team blue and red in vanilla isnt weird

it's not team 0 and team 1 ^^

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that's how it's implemented

How about arbitrary team identifiers?

ye but having ddrace teams named after colors would be way too confusing

22:14

because too many options

A hashmap lookup is O(1)

or as we'd implement it in teeworlds, O(n^2) is still fine

@heinrich5991 I'm not shying away from stl in this fork

next big thing would be "team UI" but that's already doing to much to be viable right now

22:15

*too much to

I don't think I'll touch the client for 0,7 ever

why

I might try see if I can get the protocol changes into the client we have now

22:15

If I don't really see it working out, I don't really feel like developing an entire new client

22:16

I'd have to revert thousands of lines of UI changes to begin with

22:16

@heinrich5991 team ui?

22:17

like something to manage the players in your team and stuff? Sounds unnecessary to me tbh

no

22:17

you go to the menu and see all the teams and click on the one you want to join or an empty one to join a new one

why do we have to make everything complicated? /team <number> is fine

with learath2's hashmap, that continues to work to satisfy the users whose workflow has been broken (edited)

For someone saying we have to migrate to 0.7 to get new players, you are clinging onto a rather unintuitive way to join teams

22:19

New players won't know about the /team command, but an UI is usable by anyone

we don't have to have shitty UI

Yeah a hashmap should work, then we can keep the /team command and use it to create teams and add a new /join command to join the player you want to join

22:20

@heinrich5991 If you ever get out of your negative timebudget, help me figure out the cheapest way to populate new CGameWorlds without lagging the server

consider caching what it does on initialization and just create them on the fly afterwards

I was thinking of having a reference world from which I'd deep copy

yes

before deciding the command names we should maybe change the vanilla client side command /team

No way oy changes that for us

oy isnt deciding alone

next big thing: remove all chat commands, because they're ugly

remove teeworlds

(not gonna happen as well, but would be nice)

@Learath2 the client does a deep copy like that for the prediction btw, and it seemed to be quite fast

I love chat commands

hm okay

gives games that authentic feeling and nostalgia

22:26

too polished and it feels insincere

eyewheel literally sends "say" messages

xD

22:28

timeout aswell

timeout is bad, but that's the only implementation deen could go with back then I guess

22:28

when ddnet client wasn't as ubiquoutous

Now, with 0.7, we can make timeout better from the beginning. We cant change it for 0.6 anymore, as mods based on ddnet will probably wont update to this

I'd love to get some very big networking changes done, but it's so much work

yes

22:30

focus on the essential – otherwise it'll never get done

22:30

like all my projects

like proper session resumption

yes

or encryption

my answer to this would be "just use quic" these days

eh I can't get the networking changes in 0.7 anyway, vanilla ppl refuse to break compatibility

it's probably the perfect match for it

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*teeworlds

quick unrelated question, @heinrich5991 do you ever cook?

built-in encryption, session resumption, reliable and with an extension unreliable questsions

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yes

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but I'm not good at it

22:31

*messages

22:31

not questiosn

as a proper german, would you fry or boil your bratwursts?

boil

22:32

xd

I don't know english verbs

joke

in a pan

boil = kochen

yes, but fry = braten?

ja

22:32

fry is better

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you wouldnt boil it i guess

ok, then bratwurst literally means frying sausage @Learath2

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think about it

true

22:33

Kochwurst

lol

now that I used half an hour of my negative time budget, I'll go to sleep I guess

good night

night @heinrich5991

お休みなさい

22:35

it even survived the IRC bridge

oyasuminasai indeed

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