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Between 2019-10-26 00:00:00Z and 2019-10-27 00:00:00Z
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play bigteam maps but in 2p team
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some fng?
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@Ryozuki 🀑
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@Learath2 I expect admins to negotiate with DDoSers instead of sit away and do nothing. Some admins disrespect people and then all this shit DDoS happens
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:45:40Z
there is nothing to negotiate
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there is nothing to negotiate
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:46:08Z
there is an option to buy a firewall from servercompass tho :p
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it wont work
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:46:20Z
it does work
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:46:29Z
lol
09:46
did u even tested it?
09:46
for me it worked fine πŸ™‚
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you are not ddnet
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:47:00Z
i think bombay had also positive results
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bombay is also not ddnet
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:47:27Z
well they get a ton of ddos too
09:47
block is famous for ddos (edited)
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some vanilla people are jelly due to ddnet being more famous too 🀑
09:48
but ddnet already has a firewall
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i heard learath rant about it
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:48:59Z
@Sarah1471 its not like there are people who admit they are ddosing ddnet and want something
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and if they want something is to get rcon
09:49
xdd
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:49:31Z
or ddnet to disappear
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i think its the same result :p
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:49:43Z
lol
09:50
wasnt there this sp someone rcon meme?
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there are lot of sp someone memes
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:50:16Z
xd tru
09:50
literally first meme on meme thread xd
09:52
good meme
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ouch
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 09:52:59Z
xd
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@ChillerDragon Yeah there are prople who admit they are DDoSing. I told jao a week ago before all this happens
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 10:05:56Z
wow i ddos too
10:06
give me 200 euro and ill stop
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pm vali or anyone whos ddosing and politely ask if he can stop ddos, good luck
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 10:06:13Z
everybody can claim that hehe
10:06
do you have a proof and a reason why they are doing it?
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im dos
10:07
i am ddosbox
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@ChillerDragon Its no a lie. I even told Deen what they want and deen refused to talk with them. Remember I told all this to deen and jao one week before DDoS happens
10:07
@ChillerDragon because jao banned a guy
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 10:08:17Z
oh yea bans sokk :/
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xd u dumb or what
10:35
My friend disconnected after playing some 1* novice
10:35
Too hard
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My friend did 3* Mod firsttry
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nice dummy
10:46
justatest
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@Sarah1471 you dont seem to quite grasp that a person who ddoses an open source game, developed by volunteers, hosted by donations, isn't exactly the kind of person that wants to "negoatiate"
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imagine doing what the ddoser wants
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Not like we know who is ddoaing either, but all the usual suspects just say. "Why would I ddos? πŸ€£πŸ˜‚"
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will surely hold people back from ddosing to force us to do stuff 🀑
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if you do this once, it’s like an invitation for everyone else to ddos
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🀑send nudes or i dont stop ddos 🀑
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we send pics of you 🀑
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@jao put 🀑 in ur status
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look at nobys status
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@jao click on ur image
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bottom left
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"edit custom status"
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nitro nobo
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^
11:07
banhammer all nitro nobos
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Besides not like their demands are meetable
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:nou:
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is vali really ddosing because he was banned here? he was unbanned weeks ago
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One camp would just say "Shutdown ddnet" the other one I dont even know why he keeps ddosing
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Vali is the perfect example of a chaotic evil dnd character
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i think it’s more likely that it’s not vali
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and the guy is talking bs
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Imagine being mad at a store owner for a shooting that happens at their store
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all bow to Sarah1471
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Dont have a store when u cant handle shootings
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u have to negotiate with the shooter
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Π‘ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚Π° 2019-10-26 11:25:19Z
There is information when they still fix DDnet Rus?
11:25
The problem is to save a schoolboy from some dudoser?
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oh ye according to my dms with this guy it’s not vali
11:26
and i dont even see how im involved with it lol
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:26:07Z
why would there be any info about ddos attack? its obv
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Π‘ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚Π° 2019-10-26 11:26:57Z
those. about DDnet Rus players can be forgotten or what? a week the server no longer works stably .. wild lags.
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@Π‘ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚Π° it’s ddos
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:27:22Z
also jao, if a ddoser dms you, then probably is going to be your responsibility to solve it
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how do u give eta about when the ddoser will stop?
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@jao Its Sash not vali
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Π‘ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚Π° 2019-10-26 11:27:46Z
What is protection? you are not familiar
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@Sarah1471 i dont even know that guy
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:28:08Z
also i wonder if he wants more than just ddos
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@jao I just PMed you one week ago about him! Did you forget ?
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@Π‘ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚Π° proper protection costs a lot money, ddnet is no business
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@Sarah1471 yes
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:28:58Z
sarah do you know him or whats the deal m8
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Π‘ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚Π° 2019-10-26 11:29:18Z
@jao oh.. okay
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@Cellegen | HU Yes I know him. He think that have been baned unfairly. And promised to release a open source bot and DDoS on teeworlds to make all players quit game
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:30:14Z
@jao ddnet is no business for what reasons? it certain is since its running at any cost
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@Cellegen | HU The reason for banning him its that used a moderator nickname
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@Cellegen | HU we arent making money (edited)
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:30:47Z
so you guys probably wont pay more for yourselfs but rather for others who might not deserve it
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well i mean yes jao
11:31
but as a group there might be a way to save money and get support on the internet
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we are talking about a lot money here
11:31
not a few euros
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:31:58Z
but nobody is doing that since it doesnt worth it?
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ye like over 200 euros i get it
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How much exactly? Jao
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:32:28Z
especially for the main GER server
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alone
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i don’t know exact numbers
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you can google it
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Classic
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So u never tried
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:33:03Z
how many servers are there exactly?
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ye because im not spending big money to try something?
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U dont have to spend ans money
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@Cellegen | HU 7
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so many ignorance packed into a chat
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But u r supposed to gather Information for the community
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:34:02Z
and each server costs a lot more than 1000€ / server
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probably
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As "super cool" Administration
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:34:23Z
with all support it could get?
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i want to include upgrades on it
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u can see server costs on ddnet.tw
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how was sash banned unfairly hes a toxic botter kid
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and ddoser too if what u say is true
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if he used a mod name then he is banned fairly
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yeah and he faked mods but
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he fking botted
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blatantly
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:35:16Z
abusing
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550 euros for 1 one year isnt much, jao
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many times
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that guy is probably a skid
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well, remove probably
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🀑
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Imagine how many ppl would gift money for working Servers
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@Ryozuki well he uses ath client so ofc
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550 euros is a lot to me xd
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do you rly think we havent talked this before?
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a good ddos protection costs like 500€ PER MONTH
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theres no guarantee that a commercial ddos protection like that would even work for teeworlds
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the netcode must be fixed too
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and we must keep vanilla compat due to some ppl
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its important
11:36
many players use vani client
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@noby Ok he banned fairly. But is it worth to ban someone for using a mod nick that cause nobody can play on servers ?
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:37:12Z
@jao remember when i said about supporting ddnet with advertizement? wouldnt be worth it with Unity's advertizing system? even tho mobile apps has the upper hand, it might get a few supports with it
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no i dont care about namefaking
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bro use some logic
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that guy would ddos at any opportunity
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but he was botting many times on fng and i assume ddrace too
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no matter what
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eyo can anyone help me test my new brutal map?
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no point in discussing that
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so he was banned fairly for that
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@Sarah1471 it’s never worth it to do what a ddoser wants because that will enable them to do more threats since they know it worked once
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:37:45Z
thats my first project i wanna do with my friends in 2 months jao
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@noby All I say its that its not worth to ban him even if its fair. We cant play tee for around one week! This way the DDoSer wins because he achieve his goal to decrease tee players
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He doesnt want rcon or any power
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we have many of his ips
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A sentence from a guy who knows basic Python - i love the ddnet Administration so damn much... πŸ₯°
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we can report him to the police
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sadly that wount work out onby
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:39:12Z
or have a conversation bout it
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@noby He doesnt have any static IP. all his IP are dynamics
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Go in with that - and ddnet will be dead in less than 2 years
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i know but all of his ips are within the same /15 range
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dynamic ips can be traced
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and even if it doesnt directly lead to the ddos being stopped
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its still worth a try lol
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:39:58Z
@Lunamy i already think that this community wont bring any new things to my eyes so whats the point saying that
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@noby Yes but it wont work either because as far as I know he is using VPN all the time
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no he isnt
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he just has dyn ip
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"nordvpn" skid 🀑
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and if he was using vpn then the vpn provider could be subpoenaed right
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:40:35Z
nordvpn kek
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@Cellegen | HU the Administration fucked that up - many ppl had many ideas But i know jao from instagib, he was always blinded
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So it doesnt matter
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jao played insta? lol
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@Lunamy iluminate us please
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:41:09Z
xd
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who are you even
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:41:13Z
or didnt care cuz he doesnt care doing that
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:41:16Z
much wow ontopic insta talk pls
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@noby Ok go report him to police or whatever. But make a deal with him to let us play. Or eother find another solution... We are dedicated players who cant play for a week!
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tell us your advanced wisdom
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ive never seen ur name before
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so many nonames today
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@jao sun.BoOhMi πŸ₯°
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:41:51Z
oh think i saw that once
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maybe once
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@Sarah1471 no deal, also ddnet doesnt owe you anything, you are not paying to play
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:42:02Z
saw wut
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U r always blinded
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@Sarah1471 its not my problem, i say that anyone who has servers affected by his ddos should report him and his ips to the police as a general principle even knowing that nothing will probably coe of it
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And trashtalking
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so you will have to go find another game or whathever
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:42:24Z
dont be rude jao has no eyes ofc he is blind he is a fokin sekeleton (edited)
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"Saw it once" u play with and against me
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spooky
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πŸ’€
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:42:44Z
@noby well yes but actually no for... reasons
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U couldnt realize that ur clanleader was a botter @jao
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All true πŸ₯°
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jao in what clan
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:42:59Z
big ban
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:43:06Z
Chilli.*
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:43:14Z
big ban(g)
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I never said this in public, bcs i didnt care
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@noby Ok as you wish... We could solve the issue so much easier...
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But all u say is a Lie, jao
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this chat right now
kek 2
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🀑
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:43:30Z
f3
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:43:35Z
kek i started it
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:43:46Z
Im sure @Lunamy was a faithful friend of @jao o.O
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:43:52Z
see its fun when im around
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He was my fan
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@Sarah1471 so ur solution is to let this botter ddoser ki just get his way indefinitely? xd
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i dont think thats really solving anything
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Im very famous in instagib - he knows me for 100%
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Trashtalking child
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:44:34Z
we should finally rewrite ddnet servers in bash its more stable against ddos troll
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:44:36Z
how would that be solving anything
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Find a solution for the ddos
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there is no solution
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And stop dick around, jao
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delete ddnet so no more ddos
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get it on ur head
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U GUYS DIDNT EVEN TRY
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u know shit about what ddnet tries
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@noby Its simple. We let him play and also let 3k players also play daily. We ban him and prevent 3k or even more players to play
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I know that they talk much, and do less
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Like jao
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@Sarah1471 are u sash xdd
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:45:35Z
-ddos: no solution - need money -money: no solution - we dont have konsti feelsbadman
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or why defend him
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 11:45:48Z
servercompass ddos protection is not too expensive
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MANY PPL WOULD GIFT MONEY
11:45
for decent servers
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:46:00Z
but not here
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Me included
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@noby no. I defend him because he is a close friend to me who live in my city. He learned me how to play
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u know hes a cheater right
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But the Administration didnt even ask for that
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Where jao now?
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The lying child
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:46:29Z
jao rq cuz im talking
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the Administration sounds so funny, reminds me like u talking about trump or smth
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@noby True but he never cheated on FNG. He use his own bot in DDrace only
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he always uses his cheat client on the ddnet fng servers
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with the high flags being sent to indicate something is enabled (zoom, lua etc)
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Π‘ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚Π° 2019-10-26 11:47:06Z
ddnet
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gg
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i dont believe it
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last time i banned him on rus fng he had like 75%acc
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cmon
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@noby these 2 weeks yes true because he wanted to bother players on FNG. Go look at history 1 month ago or more to see if he used any bot on FNG
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:47:52Z
and ddnet does not care having protection against bots which is a main abusement wtf
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Yo justaguy
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@noby he doesnt even like to play fng. He only play DDrace
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Yo Bummi
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ok so this guy is such a botter that even his close friends admit hes cheating on fng
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i stand by my decision to ban him
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:48:25Z
f3
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@noby okay okay good
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In fact ive no fuckin idea why a so Hardcore blinded Person like jao is admin
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He has for real no idea who bots, and who doesnt
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:48:59Z
he earned it with proofs.
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NOT EVEN CLOSE
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@Sarah1471 is it good
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He trusted one of the biggest instagib Bots in history
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But alright
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@Lunamy who
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was the bot
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Hill aka Hilltop
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oh i guess that was before my time
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Old Name Razer
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:49:56Z
look luna, i do hate jao but at the same time respect him cuz he always has reasons for an argument
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@noby for real no! I dont know why you dont understand! We dont have the money to buy powerful links. We have two options. One ban and one ignore. I can give promise that he will never play on FNG anymore
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if he stays away from fng i dont really care either way
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happy
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Onby what i trying to say
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:50:33Z
promise never solved anything here for 6 years
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why now
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This guy has simply no idea, what hes doing
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I know him
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@noby Thats great. We ignore one boter on DDrace but we can also let other 3k players enjoy the game
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yah i know i agree that ddnet should be more proactive in terms of trying to find ways to catch cheaters
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sure lol
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:51:10Z
like a brother or an asshole?
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And trying to fix server
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But instead
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We have this retarded Hammer feature now
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They didnt even ask the active community
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@Lunamy whats ur proof on hill botting
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:51:52Z
well its new and interesting i would say
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Caught on server with old nicks
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:52:04Z
but still not enough improvement
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Once with new nicks
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does he sitll play
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id like to see him play on my server
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see if it detects him
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He only uses bot for hard enemies
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i mean he was rly famous and respected if he was established as a botter it would have been known aswell wouldnt it (edited)
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He has a bot with dynamic aim assistance, noby
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Randomized to hit
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meaning what?
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oh
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well yeah alot of bots work like that
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they randomize the angle / actual position it places the mouse
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For a scrub like jao
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as well as the positions it chooses going to and from the correct angle
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U will never know
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but i mean, all this can be detected..
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Onby we caught him
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:54:11Z
so its not generally programmed but has certain randomations?
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But ppl dont care
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i know but i wanna test my system xd
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i care
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if theres a laser cheat that isnt caught i wanna fix it
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I know u care
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But normal players do not, kids do not
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Administration doesnt
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:55:11Z
@noby well using fake inputs as moving a tee does detect it?
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how is ur insta shit related to ddnet tho
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@Cellegen | HU idk what u mean by generally programmed, there are various places in standard aimbot code to introduce randomness to make it harder to detect
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and idk what u mean by fake inputs either
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Snail because of jao
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anything u send to a client for a bot to see, a normal player would see too
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so u have to be careful with that
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He was a blinded instagib player
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:56:03Z
i ment automize
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And i admin now
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:56:06Z
sorry
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that is not a word xd
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i still dont see how its related tbh
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:56:20Z
automatize?
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justatest
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fck
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automate?
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if he was playing insta as a player
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:56:39Z
yes that
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what are u trying to automate tho
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Snail, tbh, i dont think that u do care enough
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U dont eben play
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and didnt care about the community / just wanted to play
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And u dont speedrun against bots
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U cant feel the same as i do
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and again how is that related
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ur just personally attacking everyone 1 by 1
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i dont see where ur trying to get
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:57:17Z
movement / input for mouse and keyboard which are hard af in a game like this
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Im saying, that jao is a bad admin
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ik its hard theres so many diferent types of bots, thats why u have to collect lots of real player data and compare their inputs vs boted inputs
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:57:42Z
like the ai based bot posted on #dev
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and try to find patterns that show up often in bot data and rarely in human data
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:57:54Z
but with advanced movements
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Spectated him a lot time bashing or trolling other players
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then make the servers look for those patterns
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Even if they had good ideas
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:59:29Z
well we shall teach the bot how to use hook precisely and how to do swings at the right time with a calculated path from A to B and backwards
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wdym by hook precisely
11:59
other tees? the map?
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 11:59:46Z
both
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Once there was a guy with a rlly good idea on a ddrace server with jao. Jao just said corrected every of his words, just because no one can punish him. He didnt even Listen to this guy
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As admin
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Even as mod
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U have to listen
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i have like 15 different systems for trying to catch hookbots that aim and hook on other tees
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0 for hooking on map
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lol
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:00:16Z
it needs a decision when to hook hookables or tees
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And not making ur own fun of missing eng skills
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if u want someting done in a open source software, do it yourself
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well it would be possible to detect either i think
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:00:38Z
yes
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Whats the point of overcorrection without any answer?
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jao's hairy kebab 2019-10-26 12:00:59Z
jao = jew f3
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the same types of patterns u check for to detect tee hookbot, like unnatural angle acceleration or inhuman reflex as shown by delay or things like this
12:01
could work for any aim based bot i think
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:02:34Z
having detection for inhuman movements which are having exact acceralation and time should do for hookbotting on maps
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or something similar to that
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like a perfect 90 degree swing to get exact acceralation
12:04
🀑
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:04:22Z
you like clowns dontcha
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its this chat
12:04
it reminds me of them
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everytime
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:04:41Z
nice
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what is the significance of 90° swing lol
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celleclown
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:celleclown:
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does anybody has problems with ddnet race servers?
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ye
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What is wrong with them?
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ddos
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anyone wanna test my map?
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guess thats a no
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xd
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sure
12:10
what type of map is it?
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ddrace brutal
12:11
[7:02 AM] Cellegen: having detection for inhuman movements which are having exact acceralation and time should do for hookbotting on maps [7:02 AM] Cellegen: or something similar to that [7:03 AM] Cellegen: like a perfect 90 degree swing to get exact acceralation @Cellegen | HU
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not necessarily
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notice no 90° anything
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no centered hooks
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@limepraysher go on
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:12:07Z
not centered but randomized
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@noby Its hard to detect bots, specially those with bad ping and pocket loss. Even if detect then it can easily get bypassed by newer bots and this will lead to infinite loop.
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my bot doesnt randomize on purpose but it scans the whole tee surface and hooks at the nearest point which ends up making it look pretty random when u compare it vs perfect center angle hooks
12:12
and yeah
12:12
its an arms race
12:12
better detect => better bots => repeat x∞
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:13:33Z
there will be a limitation through math questions
12:13
and i believe that every bot can be replicated through geomatry
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:14:29Z
i'll explain it on a video relatively later on
12:15
but i need further resources to prove my points as bots can be stopped with the same technice as bot created
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eh @Sarah1471 is kinda right, theres no 100% solution to stopping bots
12:15
u can try and u can get almost all of them
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but itll never be perfect
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either way its better than doing nothing
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:16:26Z
well if computers cant predict the most complex bots, then humans will do for them
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no, humans are even less reliable
12:16
think of a triggerbot
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u literaly cant tell by watching the player, whether u can see cursor pos or not
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cus of how the bot works
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so u have to analyze sequences of their shots and try to pick out things that seem suspicious
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:17:14Z
i did not research triggerbots entirely but i dont think humans can detect it whatsoever
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like are they always pulling the trigger the same tick they mouseover their enemy?
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:17:28Z
so you might have points on those
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aaaah well i cant answer that
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plus its so much easier to develop a bot rather than developing anti-bot. A bot can be made in less than week and can easily improve itself in hours to bypass anti-bot scripts. But it will take ages to detect how it bypassed anti-cheat
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a bot can be made in 15min wtf a week
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@noby i meant a full feature bot
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ofc it will always be harder to make antibot than bot
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:18:31Z
(with a few resources that you can look on the internet)
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what does that mean xd
12:18
full feature?
12:18
each bot does a different specific thing no
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:18:46Z
everything at once?
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@noby yeah. Sash bot has a feature than can laser itself through more than 7 blocks of freeze with a grenade
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how do u laser urself with a grenade
12:19
xd
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Marcel/<BµmM>#5978
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and i mean ok but thats a specific type of bot
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he gets speed and then use laser to unfreeze
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:19:44Z
wat
12:20
freezejump + laser is pretty much randomized
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but the way it moves its mouse during the auto unfreeze thing
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dude whats wrong with discord devs lmao
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is probably not too hard to detect
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plus a feature that finish solo maps by records. but it doesnt work well if ping differs so much
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click on your name left in the corner a few times
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replaybot is probably way harder to detect
12:20
than the unfreeze thing
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:21:30Z
it should have inhuman predictions
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ive never even tried to detect this
12:21
no, replaybot is hard because everything it does is human inputs
12:22
afaik the only way is to hope theyre careless about it and try the same replay multiple times
12:22
or share their replays
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:22:43Z
well we shall detect the time record itself as a possibility for finishing the map with this limitation
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i think, people record individual parts of a map separately
12:23
then replay it in segments
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so the final time might be different
12:23
but the sequences of moves during each part would be the same
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Lol this shittroll troll troll troll
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:23:56Z
but its still client based... or not since AI can predict that too
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u dont get it
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xd
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:24:15Z
or be programmed to do the same as replay bot
12:24
without detecting the client
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replaybot is way harder to detect than anything else ive talked about
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Somebody call an IT expert
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:24:38Z
justatest
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detecting the client itself only works for old common botclients and isnt relevant to 90% of the new stuff
12:25
since all they have to do is just change the version number lol
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:25:10Z
so older versions are vulnerable for botting
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u have to make a good guess from analyzing all the inputs they send
12:25
and i mean
12:26
there are some versions of ddnet where people added bots and redistributed them, and theyre are so old that noone uses them, so if u see someone with those versions today
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theyre probably using the bot version
12:26
thats why version number/client detect is a thing
12:26
but it isnt relevant for any of the clients made in the last few years so
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:26:28Z
but didnt implement it on ddnet
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no they finally did add version number kick to ddnet
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:26:44Z
cool
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shi t like baumalein client wont work on ddnet anymore thanks to that
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there is only one simple way to stop all bots and it work with 100% precision but I dont share it lol
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:26:59Z
bruh
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you dont share it bcs u know its retarded
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:27:35Z
you wont get ddos if there's no server to join on
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banning botters in real life
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:27:40Z
big brain
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remember ur talking to the same twat who defends the person whos ddosing ddnet in revenge for getting banned for botting on ddnet
12:28
not much logic there thonkery
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:28:40Z
logic can have multiple meanings
12:28
troll troll troll
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@noby Sash told me how to block all the bots with 100% precision lol
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sash is a stupid allthehaxx noob
12:29
and i bet hes talking shit
12:30
imagine being too stupid to get away with botting on DDNET
12:30
they barely care at all
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@noby nah he is a pro C++ and 80x86 virus analyser in a company
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:30:33Z
aka indian scammer
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wtf is 80x86 lmao
12:30
yeah i know asm
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80x86=6880 quick maths
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and knowing it doesnt automatically make u not stupid or give u common sense
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:31:28Z
what is common sense
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he keeps rejoining the same servers with the same name and the same bot client and keeps getting banned for the same shit
12:31
how fucking stupid can u be
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:31:44Z
kek
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@Sarah1471 u big trolltroll
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@noby ok no worries
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im 80% sure this guy is sash himself
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12:33
@Sarah1471 wats ur tw name?
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:34:33Z
somebody explain common sense
12:34
i wanna educate myself but i cant
12:34
lol
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dont you have common sense
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:35:11Z
sometimes
12:35
when im not drunk
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just randomly join a chat and post this emoji 🀑
12:35
this is the common sense
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why cant this sash idiot 80x86 himself a name changer? @Sarah1471
12:36
or at least cover up his obvious bot client
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if he knows c++ and he still uses the ath version thats instadetected then thats pretty sad
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@noby Sash response : I have more than 10 nicks with different client and IP. I only use Sash with IR IP and ATH client
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sash response
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:37:24Z
useless
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xD
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his other personality speaking
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:37:51Z
AND ath client dont forget that one boi
12:37
its important
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then why does he keep returning to the nick/client he gets instabanned with
12:38
if he has 9 others
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@noby BTW is all of this really important ? the most important thing for us its to take tee servers to normal state
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:38:31Z
cuz its useless
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btw
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@Sarah1471 tell us ur tw name or i’ll consider u as sash
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no its not important, i dont care about ddrace, i just find it funny that u keep defending someone whos so constantly stupid
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@jao are gore part of ddnet?
12:39
kog is separate
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@Deleted User kog isnt
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:39:19Z
oh oh jao detective tee_thinking
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if u mean that
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@jao Or maybe you want to ban me in tee lol ?
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:/
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ban u for what?
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@noby IDK
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I would play more gore if I could use ath
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i will ban u here if u don’t tell me who you are
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ath sucks
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@noby u
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:40:03Z
just send jao nudes to ban urself lol
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@Deleted User read my status
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wait wtf when were statuses a thing
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@noby read mine
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can i get a status?
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@noby Read jao qoute for the reason you asked me πŸ˜„
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u dont have
12:40
and lol
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I do
12:40
Online
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@Sarah1471 because ur being sketchy and ur probably sash
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Smh
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:41:04Z
@jao so youre just gonna ban this guy for pretending personality, disrespectful conversation or something else?
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mobile actually
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@noby My nick its Mahshid but I dont play much
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i would ban him for ddosing and shitting this place up
12:41
@Cellegen | HU
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wht do u play?
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:41:55Z
im glad you didnt ban me for the last reason justatest
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Btw why kog don't allow ath? (edited)
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@Sarah1471 so u dont play much but you complain that we β€ždedicated players β€ž cant play due to ddos?
12:42
how does that align
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https://discord.gg/Vrx633 @Deleted User ask qshar on kog dc
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Eww
12:42
I won't join a gay Discord
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@jao Why not ?
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probably because its a cheat client idk
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Then why ddnet allows it
12:42
πŸ€”
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@Sarah1471 because if u don’t play anyways u have no reason to complain (edited)
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because ddnet doenst care about cheating lol xd
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:43:00Z
justatest
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Time to start cheating in ddnet
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@jao Yes I do. Im on holidays for 8 days and Tee its the only game I play
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Road to 20k points
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:43:23Z
and get urself banned
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because ddnet doenst care about cheating lol xd
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:44:08Z
ddnet doesnt, mods are
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I could just do races with bot at 4am and in empty server
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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yeah probably lol
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:45:08Z
which is going on a database where we can catch prove that youre botting
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thats what happens when noone cares enough to try to make any system to auto flag possible cheat users
12:45
for admin review or otherwise
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What will u see in db
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:45:38Z
too much effort noby
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That I made a map on average time?
12:45
justatest hi syltoox
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idk it depends on the server
12:45
my servers save info about every shot and hook made there
12:46
some info about their mouse movements/ delays/distances
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^ ?
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so i can plug that info into scripts that tell me who might be botting
12:46
if the server didnt recognize it automatically
12:46
but on ddnet idk lol
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:46:45Z
not at all
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look at the fucking admins
12:46
3 clown emojis at once
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:47:00Z
i mean the ones that are custom
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[7:44 AM] BOTDDNet: πŸ“€ Sarah1471#5192 just left the server mmm rq
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12:47
look at the fucking clowns 3 admin emojis at once*
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:47:33Z
nice
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cellegen wtf
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:48:03Z
what
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justatest gay joke
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:48:30Z
idc im used to it
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@noby can I call u bony?
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boner troll
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:49:21Z
bnoy
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jao how are you doing with that dmer
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:51:05Z
the ddoser
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i banned him
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:51:46Z
no conversation or anything?
12:51
just ban?
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ddosers always say the same ripoff joker themed shit
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there is no point in talking to such people
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:52:25Z
friended ryo lmao
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we live society
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@Cellegen | HU why u even consider sending me a friend request
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:52:56Z
missclick
12:53
i wanted to block ya
12:53
🀑
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:53:30Z
greenthing
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vali rn
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:53:38Z
kek
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@gdin so we friends now
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me pls
12:54
feelsbadman
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clowngang
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:54:31Z
nice im suppose to be leader
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CClownNetwork
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:54:49Z
lmao CCnet
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@noby nice anti-zooz status
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:55:10Z
monkaS
12:55
no
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noby is biggest troll because he bans only tho
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no
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i do more than just ban
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:55:50Z
also made detwction bot cuz hes lazy af greenthing
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bring back emojis into ddnet so we can clown there
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you ban zomos
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the server can watch every player at once with 0 ping
12:56
i can watch 1 player at a time, when im on, with 120 ping
12:56
so automated system is better xd
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:56:43Z
just zoz it
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how zooz ppnet: spec your dummy and dummy copy and zooz thats it troll
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:57:23Z
only zooz
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:58:54Z
ddnet dc dont have pepeclown feelsbadman
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celleGen Z
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troll
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 12:59:16Z
wat
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search on goge
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 13:00:28Z
collagen peptides
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wtf is that
13:01
second search: collage xD
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Hey y'all - Are the ger servers down atm?:)
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 13:03:03Z
no its up
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-26 13:03:37Z
you might not see it cuz of ddos, directly connect to the servers
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@Duck why u smile
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haha was put a smile trynna be polite haha
13:06
ah I see
13:06
How do u directly connect?
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What about moving ddnet to 0.7
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-26 13:16:17Z
DDNet port to TW 0.7. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet7 development by creating an account on GitHub.
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dominate all the versions
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if I can ever ssh into ger, i'll get it working πŸ˜›
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okay GER should be fine now
13:50
If you can't connect, go to ddnet.tw
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i can see sash's next account coming in anytime soon
14:30
but i really cringed when he said pro c++ and 80x86 virus analyser in a company lol
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@nexusrf 🀑
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heyo
16:45
anyone wanna test my brutal map with me?
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why inst milk available in brazilian servers?
16:55
doenst work in chile and usa also
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haha i got a status
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@jao milk not on ddnet usa?
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ye ddos broke the release
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can anyone help me test my brutal map?
17:47
ip is 84.36.65.222:8505
17:47
if u want
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Ddos inc
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rip me
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Why does this game have so many ddosrers
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what did u say?
17:52
i couldnt read in time
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same
17:52
something with pepe
17:52
xD
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wrong discord greenthing
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ok
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@noby btw 80x86 is an actual thing
18:14
and x86
18:14
not 80x86
18:16
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no not sure
18:16
just never heard anyone call it that
18:16
oh
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Cant vote the new map "milk" on south african servers,can anyone please help?
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ddos broke rls?
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Mb allow bots, so all have equal top5 chances
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only works if everyone has every bot
20:35
so send them
20:40
DDNet ranked became like women athletics with transgender (edited)
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or any sport without doping tests
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I would allow doping too Interesting to see how far human body can go
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ye thats what i think too. but the best ones are doing it anyway so what we have now is actually how far it can get i guess
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they probably pay so they dont check
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Don’t think so
21:33
Only in Tour de France
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i seen a video some time ago. said that pro bikers are in danger while asleep because their heart rate goes down so much. there was once some guy who had to get up at night and train so he wont die in his sleep. he did anyway
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DDNet GER down?
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@Im 'corneum shit happens
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@Rilla no Spam Ctrl + r With some luck a shitserver will appear
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Can you amybe send me an IP so i dont have to refresh?
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No, but mb u find IPs on DDNet.tw
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Or use ddnet client, which doesn't need the master servers to show ddnet servers
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I do but my friend and I can not findn any GER server
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is it updated ddnet client ? (edited)
22:55
yez
22:55
yes
23:01
okay fixed
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Felix | legEnder 2019-10-26 23:21:17Z
Hey, the DDNet Tab in the client doesn't display any servers (even after refresh spam) and I don't have any flags displayed in the "Countries" sub-menu. Using the "Internet" tab i can however finde SOME DDNet servers. Also tried deleting the config folder/reinstalling. ty for ur help
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