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Between 2019-10-14 00:00:00Z and 2019-10-15 00:00:00Z
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-14 10:14:55Z
@louis i recommend different settings for different gametypes
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i love when fucking retards join the server im on, on my own, doing a race, and fucking call vote and change map, why are people so retarded
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Congratulations @Matrose l_I
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why is there not a feture to disable map vote if u and ur dummy are on a server by yourself
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because you could easily abuse that
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well there has to be some way coz its fucking retarded
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enlighten us
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Thats why you get a save bind
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true, even so u may not be quick enough
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votes rarely are faster than 5 seconds
12:05
Should be enough to press the save button
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well mine was done in 1 second
12:36
40 minutes down the drain
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@El BobLex did u not have veto
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@jao let votes atleast last 5sec if not everyone press f3?
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annoying for normal use
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Who uses votes so much that it turns annoying?
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everyone who uses random map vote to find a map to play
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ye dont do that
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Hmm, but then everyone presses f3?
13:11
Oh
13:12
Well there should become a complex algorithm to decide how long votes should lasttroll
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if he really played for 40mins he should have had veto anyways
13:15
so idk if this is really as big as a problem
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could you make a bot that always votes f4 and then you join all emty servers on a shitmap and wait till you get veto on every server
13:43
oh guys who is wetfish
13:44
like i know they have a lot of servers and i went to their site but it's just a blog. does the owner just like teeworlds?
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the site + most of the servers belong to rachel
13:45
a few are mine
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when does veto kick in?
13:54
and how many people are required to be on the server?
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no people requirement
13:58
you only need more then 20 mins on the map
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cellegay
15:00
troll
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-14 15:00:42Z
option for blocking map votes should be automaticly toggled if you are on the server, like if there is only less than 2 in general
15:01
or more likely with complicated solutions tho it would be nice tho
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cellegen i can never understand what u mean
GWcmeisterPeepoEZ 1
f3 5
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-14 16:25:23Z
bruh only retard wouldn't understand me, cuz im intellectual in a next level lmfao
16:25
kek 📘
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i think he means like
16:36
if ur on the server
16:37
there should be an option to make map votes impossible
16:37
idk
16:37
i don't speak the language of the gods
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You can actually do it like kog does
16:55
Kinda interesting
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how does kog do it?
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They got a vote don't change map. Because on gores jt happens to be that when a big team fails they vote for new map. But if dont change map is voted (not sure how it works) you first have to vote change maps. And i guess this vote is harder to get passed. Not sure how it works and i think it is confusing people without proper explaination.
17:03
@qshar i summon you to explain. I dont play gores so i am not surepepeH
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that’s nice for full servers
17:04
but if you’re alone on a server it’s ultra abusable
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that's the point
17:04
i think
17:05
we are talking about being alone on the server
17:05
how would you abuse it if you were alone
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vote it and block the server?
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what do you mean "block"
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Hmm true, this doesn't solve the problem when the server is empty
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not allow people to change map for no reason
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that's the point though
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And if you join 20 servers
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"for no reason"
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the dude was complaining because a few people would get on and change the map while he was still voting
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People cant change map anywhere
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no n000b i don't think that's how gores works
17:06
i think like
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yes, but you can use this to troll too
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And bassicly whole ddnet is blocked
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if you vote to change map you have to wait a bit before changing map
17:07
you can't immediately go like ddnet
17:07
you vote to change map but there's like a delay i think
17:07
idk
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@jao okay don't make the vote more difficult but when you add this you need 2 votes only once and people got actually time to save
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wdym by only once
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Because i also faced the same problem a few times. Also for speedrun it is annoying
17:09
Well
17:09
You only have to vote change map once until you vote don't change map.
17:10
So if people wanna do a lot of votes. Random unfinished. Then they only need to vote 1 time change map first (if someone has voted don't change map).
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don’t see how that would not be abusable
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the actual system works fine
17:47
no need change it
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ChillerDragon 2019-10-14 17:49:57Z
says biggest funvoter troll
greenthing 1
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have to agree, works fine, in worst case you gotta bann the bot with 4 other people, but loosing 20 min of progress sucks
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will teeworlds ever be reworked
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@n000b yes, you get it all right
20:28
this is how it works in KoG
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-14 20:28:45Z
i guess letting the vote forced by default (off) when theres more than 2 people around should do the trick
20:29
but as well you alone cannot vote by this standard
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thats bad tho?
20:29
ppl could just camp servers with 2 ppl
20:29
to troll or some shit
20:29
make every map multimap and just camp it
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-14 20:30:28Z
i dont think map changing abusement can be stopped, but rather slowly making people forget about it
20:31
unless
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The vote "don't change the map" increases the vote delay to 6-10 minutes. At anytime any player can vote "change map" option that will bring all back. So even when you are alone on the server, you can easily vote
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-14 20:31:54Z
oh wait
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and when this option has been voted, you have to vote "twice" to change the map: 1. change the map vote, 2. The map vote itself
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-14 20:32:48Z
with the afk ban, bot detector and the changing map vote solution, this wouldnt be abuseable anymore
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RQ. ping me in case of questions
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@qshar unmute
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-14 20:33:28Z
twice
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Cellegen | HU 2019-10-14 20:33:59Z
well it makes it still abuseable for a large group of people tho
20:34
for example all blockmark members
20:35
they just join, change map, accept it and make people's race gone
20:35
BUT IDEALLY there is a little weirder way to prevent that
20:35
autosaving?
20:35
idk
20:37
tbh if that abusement does not get to be cannon on every platform of ddnet, then we shouldnt care about it
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can some mod come to Logics and spec Coke for a minute?
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@Rune what he doin
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nevermind, he was afk on a trigger that activated a laser
21:27
it's fixed
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