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Between 2019-08-30 00:00:00Z and 2019-08-31 00:00:00Z

why you guys dont suuport 0.7 version of teeworld? a lot of steam players can see the servers .

Because lack of development. It takes a lot of time and nobody is willingly to do it. Besides there are also people who dont even want to become 0.7

0.7 succ

reasons?

that's just hate for hates sake :P

it looks ugliewr overall

11:13

have u seen the chat?

11:13

it looks like 2000

11:13

and skins are way worse

It's mostly that we just don't have enough developers to port all of this, and advocate for mods to the vanilla people (who've been very unreceptive in the past)

im happy we dont have enoughthen

We can patch up all the issues we have with UI

I have ported current DDNet Server to 0.7

(for the record I also much prefer the old look)

Me too Learath, but you get pretty used to it tbh

I'd rather not get used to bad design decisions

some parts of the looks look really good

11:17

what bad decisions?

fokkonaut, do you have commits somewhere for your port to 0.7?

11:18

Like the chat that looks like nyan cat puked all over it

@Learath2 I have put everything in one commit, and the rest (small fixes) in seperates

11:18

I manually took things from the DDNet source

11:18

And somehow connected everything

11:20

So things like layers, command, rcon and that stuff works, also map settings work and yea

11:21

if ddnet is willing to port to 0.7, i will of course share it with you. At the moment it is in my private mod repo, but I can give you access to it

we not willing so dont worry

Hmm, the most difficult part is probably the client stuff though

11:22

with all the changes in the ui code

Yea, thats true

11:23

Lets take the old UI :p

11:23

I would actually welcome that

11:25

Learath, in theory you can check my server on 0.7, just type my name and you will find it.

11:26

check dm learath

I'm having internet troubles at home, I can't really play tw, I can barely connect to irc

oof, thats bad...

70kbps

Bad internet for an developer damm that sucks

good news they'll fix it in 3 days

11:58

bad news it's 3 business days

11:58

even worse news, tomorrow is saturday....

Why not keep the current UI and port only the server and network protocol to 0.7? Sounds like a good compromise to me

13:02

Especially since fokkonaut already started

13:04

as long as the ingame physics stay the same I'd be open to run a few 0.7 servers first and then switch over once they prove themselves

dont count me in

Count me in instead :p

@deen we would need the skin system tho

i don't care much about skins, sounds ok

Yea, but it is needed

13:32

There is no way around it

its quite a bit of work to port them, maybe a script would be needed, or make 0.7 users default skin

13:38

would be nice to have something like a proxy, or overlaying API that just transforms 0.6 and 0.7 net code to a central one

@Deleted User I would heavily disagree with not using 0.7 skins

and where do i say to not use them?

What did they do to skins?

14:15

@Deleted User @heinrich5991 once talked of such a proxy, I doubt he ever made it though

skins are more flexible, u can choose the eyes, feets and decoration independently

14:18

its quite nice indeed, would like to see that in the client some day

I'm sure we can handle that

only problem is

14:22

e.g. greyfox has decoration and it would be neede to redesigned

14:22

without decoration and the decoration seperatly

oh the decoration on the tee?

yeah

hmm that's troubling, we could probably get a script to do a lot of the work, but fixing the decorations will require some artist work

i mean for now u could just make it without removing decoration, but would be nice to have the freedom to select it

or we give a shit about skins and only support new ones

ye lets remove all the work till today just for a update that provides nothing useful at all

15:06

brownbear

people can port their skins?

15:14

Just because you hate vanilla

I dont see skins as a blocker. Its not that ddnet doesnt work without skins. And artitsts like Whis are still active and for sure willing to recreate some skins.

is it possible to specify a storage.cfg file via command line parameters when starting the server? I couldn't find any info about cli parameters...

storage.cfg is the one thing with truly fixed path

16:00

There are only 2 paths it'll try, one is the cwd

16:00

the next is if there is an absolute path to the executable in argv[0] it'll strip the executable name and look in the same directory as the executable

ty for the info it could be quite usefull for a docker container to have the file in another directory than the executable, because then i could put it in a volume and not in the container...

16:14

may i try to implement that and create a pull request? or is it not wanted, to be dynamic

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