DDraceNetwork - general

@Ryozuki wow they cared about that?

who cared about that ?

@ƒirewave what do you mean with .exec?

You can use it to toggle deepfly on/off with 1 key

luel

people who play with clantags on justatest

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pls dont funvote people

12:46

its against the rules

@ƒirewave how to toggle deep fly with 1 key?

undeepfly

74 bytes

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deepfly

105 bytes

12:58

i got it to work by creating those 2 configs

12:59

(bind one of them on the key '5', then you can toggle)

What app do I use to open them? @Patiga

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=6775

13:02

Read this @isaac

13:02

There is everything u need

OK ty

Use blocnote

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ok

I am offended

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Speckneck

@Patiga with what do i open that?

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16:01

totally wrong design on whole map

daily complain

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no troll

16:15

what he posted isn't helpful at all

u need good connection for stacked map?

somewhat

bruh

what map is it @Дядя Женя

steff I beginning

is this ddmax

@Schetella u should bind it in f1 with bind m exec deepfly.cfg

16:41

That is enough

16:42

When pressed m you bind undeepfly to m and activate that script and this works visaversa. Place those 2 files in the folder "data" btw.

noby-ception

@Xusep was faking me and stole my kill

u

im not home wtf

yeah

suxep

it was from 15-20min ago or so when uwere home

idk what u talking about

17:30

17:32

this noby fake

ban him f3

ok if u say so feelsamazingman

he left already

17:33

[12:29 PM] Xusep ryozuki sucks: im not home wtf which makes sense

12:29 PM

17:34

where do u live

usa

aahh kk (edited)

hence 120ping to my own server lol

xd

HMM

18:05

ddos again?

pls dont release maps that i cant finish cuz bad pc

bad router

18:10

sry gotta play on 2g

18:13

@jao

disagree

that was already a thing in the testing section of the map, they simply ignored the complaints

just set 0 points

18:16

and nobody would care

18:16

would be fair

agree

nobody cares for your points anyway bumm (edited)

i mean the map looks funny

release servers for every country then do it troll

points are tied to map difficulty

nah

18:17

xddd

just because you can't play it, it doesn't mean no one else should

for some people its 5* insane and for others its simple as kobra

18:18

how is that fair

we don't live in a perfect world

some people lag when playing teeworlds or disconnect at 80% of a map, how is that fair?

18:18

deal with it

i cant even do the first 3 hammer

e.g. edgejump maps are also a lot easier if you have a good keyboard

yeah

there are almost 2k maps, im sure you can find another map to paly

there are things you cant fix (lags, people raging...) but you can fix this simple

@Lexin there are people that want to farm points

too bad

actually i dont care about the points

18:20

its just unfair

@jao so you want to encourage people to buy the perfect set-up?

the people that farm points have others finish maps for them anyways

the last time i cared about points is years ago

18:20

xdd

so they can just add this to their list of fake finishes

thats such a stupid view

it's reality

then you could also just set the points to 0 if thats the reality

every map should be possible for everyone, if you are good enough

or provide everybody a free finish

points are tied to map difficulty

and this map cant be rated in a fair way

this map is special

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you cant compare it to others

isn't there a map like this already? why didnt you rage about that one

people did

there were many people raging

"many"

no map can be rated in a fair way if you think we dont live in a perfect world (edited)

"the world is not perfect", shouldnt you at least try to bring it near to it?

i think just copy fly released only cuz vasten was hi leute gll friend

feels like youre just too lazy to do sth tbh

18:23

@<BµmM> XD

actually deen himself said he doesnt like it

Do points even matter at this point?

yes

They hardly reflect anything

18:24

A team 0 finish of stronghold 3 is worth nothing, yet it gets the same points as a team finish with only 2 people

18:24

That's hardly fair either

[1:23 PM] Freezestyler: "the world is not perfect", shouldnt you at least try to bring it near to it? this is the same attitude ddnet has towards any kind of automated antibot system as well lol

its fair because everybody could play in team 0 lol

"cant be perfect so why try"

The points are just broken, I think they should be fixed as a whole

ye

Which would require a reset of points, which would just get me killed right here

but then start with stacked

18:26

u can reset the points

18:26

i dont care

my deepfly is broken, cuz i often have a bad port to the srv.. so i cant speedrun some maps. where my rank 1's

i just want to have it fair

its same bs argument

free rank1 for everyone on maps where you need deepfly

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just delete deepfly again since its stupid anyway

impossible

wouldnt people just use old client if they wanted to deep fly

The ddrace way is bugs = features

sure you could if you tried

ok

18:27

new idea

Well removing deepfly is indeed possible, but it'd break more then you imagine

let the map have 3 stairs but 0 points?

eg.?

ooh nvm

go ahead, no1 stopping u from innovation @Freezy

no points are tied to map difficulty

i suppose it is serverside afterall

@noby y

so everyone can see"oh this is 3 stars hard" (edited)

but then itd be unfair if people already have ranks made with deep fly

we really cant touch physics without breaking ranks

new idea: you stop caring and let others have fun

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ok

18:28

can i finish that map on lan server

18:29

send u the demo

18:29

and then u will give me my rank?

i can finish for you bummy ❤

no

isnt it possible to tune physics by ±0.01 and do that and they wouldnt know but itd give u a slight edge

ok thanks lexin

maybe if people would go along with a reset we can get in a couple dozen physics changes

ah wait

18:29

maybe i can finish it from my parents home

10€

xd

I think there are less people than you think against a points reset @Learath2

@<BµmM> that was one of the ideas we had with teehistorian, to allow people to play on other servers and submit teehistorian files

and then people would bitch about those physics being changed @Learath2

@<BµmM> unlike demos teehistorian files are complete, they are enough to play back the entire run

there was already enough drama with one slight rocket bug fix lol

oh

imagine fixing some other stuff

People tried to have heinrich shot in the streets for fixing that one teleporter bug

xddd

teleporters are still plenty buggy

yeah we reverted the patch because it was giving us headaches every day

xd

Before anything we should probably make teleporters deterministic

can't you fake randomize them

Well not that easy, I thought so aswell, but how would we seed the randomness

18:35

the client needs to know of every teleportation on the map to keep track of where we are in the random stream

0_o

18:36

where is there randomness in tw gameplay (edited)

yep, teleporters are random

wdym

there can be multiple tele destinations

ohh then it randomly picks

18:36

huh i didnt know that lol

isnt it on multimap lol

@<BµmM> i can finish for u if u dont hate me anymore bluekitty

it's used on a lot maps

i noticed only in multimap

Controller->m_TeleOuts[z-1][(!Num)?Num:rand() % Num];

ryo finish for me with 10000:00.00 time troll

[1:34 PM] Learath2: Well not that easy, I thought so aswell, but how would we seed the randomness it already calls srand at startup for binding ports no? isnt this enough or am i missing something lol

@noby well rand is used for other things, and the client still doesnt know how far in the random stream we are

why does it need to know, isnt teleportation handled serverside

18:40

or u mean for prediction

yes but we can't predict it without

ahh

18:40

right xd

besides teehistorian files don't save some kind of teleportation event

ah yes

18:41

ofc

nor do we save the seed

where else is rand used?

18:41

well does it save positions

Cant you use server time as seed everytime

18:42

Maybe even with 15 seconds rounding

18:42

So it will be predictable

@noby laser tele, spawn points, mysql code

i thought spawnpoints were calculated based on other tee positions

actually mysql might be using the mysql rand

18:42

anyway, all kinds of tele use rand()

@noby yes +

@Дядя Женя yeah we were thinking of sth like the tick

@Learath2 nice idea

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@Learath2 tick may be calculated wrong ThinkSweat

because of ping and smth

Nope tick isn't calculated

18:45

Tick is sent by the server

Ok, do what u r doing

thank

Everything I can say that making something random just not random but depend on some kins of formula of something predictable like time is best idea

18:46

Good luck

18:47

You're welcome

tldr

ezy is a big troll

stop troll

u

noby is the biggest troll

how does deepfly work again i forgot

put +toggle cl_dummy_hammer 1 0 on mouse1

dum +toggle part that i forgot

god fuck chicken pie 2