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Between 2019-07-19 00:00:00Z and 2019-07-20 00:00:00Z
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 01:12:16Z
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Hookfly on novice
01:12
easy / tricky
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?
01:14
a novice player won’t be able to pull it off
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 01:15:56Z
So I should think about the server players
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not 100% sure
01:20
mark it as not sure for now ig
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this kind of hookfly is super easy with dummy copy
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@Im 'corneum your pfp
04:28
majestically
04:29
is beautiful
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@jao u just hammer one up then the other hooks him to tp
06:44
u dont even need hookfly
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@Дядя Женя deepfly + dummycopy
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 08:26:04Z
@Дядя Женя should've made it when u started playing atleast you would git gud with that justatest
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Any other useful dummy binds? Deeply, dummycopy, dummyswitch...
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 09:24:57Z
resetonswitch and after the update there will be cl_dummy_restore_weapon to always keep hammer after hammerfly @isaac
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Toggle reset on switch?
09:33
Also on mouse one or nah (edited)
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 09:34:19Z
i manually turn on reset on switch if i need it for example for bette rhookfly
09:35
Thanks
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 09:38:16Z
@Brokecdx- @Im 'corneum hammer off here
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@ChillerDragon reset on switch omg, i might actually start playing with dummy if that works
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 10:07:18Z
ya thats usefull
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@Дядя Женя deepfly bind makes the dummy recast his hook (edited)
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 10:07:39Z
Yes. Not sure if its useful (edited)
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 10:55:04Z
@everyone
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 10:56:52Z
1. Make a solid rules about which technics counts as tricky for dummy and which are not 2. Make a different solid rules for each server about which technic counts as tricky 3. NO RULES!
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10:57
you just pinged 2k people
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it didnt ping me tho
10:57
@jao why?
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stupid jesus
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he ateveryone
10:57
didn’t you see
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 10:57:39Z
@Jesus Christ u r not human
10:57
thats why
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u
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I think u should tell if a map is tricky considering if it's novice or moderate etc
10:58
so 2
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 10:58:54Z
What Im doing now: Im comparing difficulty of the map to how difficult it becomes when you play with dummy
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@jao why can he @ everyone?
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 10:59:08Z
But I could make a solid rules about it
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He cant, jaos trolling
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 10:59:29Z
@Learath2 thats a joke lol
10:59
yoba_troll
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 11:00:29Z
@eryneone
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:00:39Z
Is that tricky for novice
11:00
how do you think
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 11:00:44Z
no
11:00
cant fail
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:01:03Z
why can't
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 11:01:08Z
there is unfreeze
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:01:13Z
yes
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for novice yes
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:01:19Z
But they needs to switch
11:01
fast
11:01
and aim
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 11:01:23Z
you can only fail in bigger teams
11:01
bru
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for an average player no (edited)
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 11:01:37Z
its one of the easiest novicee parts out there
11:01
did u ever play the planet maps?
11:01
they are hard
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@jao isn't this like one of the easiest dummy things to do?
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 11:01:57Z
yes it is
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Not for novice players
11:02
lol
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@Learath2 you have to switch and react
11:02
that’s not easy for novice people
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actually idk which way this part goes
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it's hard even with a real duo for them
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if it's going right it's easy
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I think everything that involves timing is hard for novice players
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I guess
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timing and reactions
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 11:03:33Z
real duo always harder than dummy @Gwendal
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I'm pretty horrible with dummy but I don't really have a problem with these
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nah Chiller xd
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you are not a novice player tho
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I guess
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:05:51Z
this map is 100% tricky for novice btw
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 11:06:04Z
no
11:06
well maybe
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 11:06:26Z
does the dragge dhave to press a and d?
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:06:28Z
even Im failing this omg
11:06
I try to not hold
11:06
its much harder without holding
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An untrucky map for novice are maps like purple panic
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:06:45Z
but possible
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@Дядя Женя you should ask yourself who this list is for
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:06:58Z
yes, Im doing so
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Where there is no reaction and things
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like, do actual novice players even play with dummy?
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:07:21Z
@Gwendal also easy dragparts easy for novice
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not sure if that’s a thing
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:07:36Z
I...
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:07:43Z
Don't know, I played with dummy
11:07
I believe
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:08:00Z
Can't remember clearly my skill level
11:08
but I was finishing novices
11:08
and some was kinda hard for me
11:08
So yes
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k then I think this list should take map difficulty into account
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:09:14Z
I will make some solid rules (list of technics) that counts as tricky
11:09
for each server
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otherwise it won’t be helpful for novice players at all
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:09:41Z
Will take an average
11:09
Or little bit under-average skill level
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stuff that’s easy for an average player won’t be easy for a novice
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:10:07Z
2-3* novice 2-3* mod players etc
11:10
because the player who really wants to know can he finish with dummy and how hard is that
11:10
its a player who didnt finish this map yet
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and wants to do it
11:10
so its his skill level map
11:11
Mod/brutal player who wants to finish novices if he didn't yet just may play everything except for impossible
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novice player does not care about possibility of brutal maps
11:12
so the opposite
11:12
now I need list of technics and it names
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for novice anything that doesn’t require reacting
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:14:18Z
And i still can not finish this drag on novice
11:15
@jao why not? Just not so fast-reacting. for example hold tee under freeze to undreeze him
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then switch
11:15
and hook wall
11:15
its kinda easy (edited)
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that requires reacting
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:15:38Z
but how hard is it for novice
11:15
and how fast you should be
11:15
we need some noobs
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well it’s case by case in reality ofc
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:15:53Z
for testing it on them
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you can’t make such general rules
11:16
maps are too complex
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:18:01Z
I can't finish this drapart....
11:18
on novice...
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 11:22:58Z
Evgesha I'm noob justatest
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@Дядя Женя i did
11:24
But it sucks
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:25:46Z
this 3 star novice makes me cry
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 11:25:58Z
ez drag
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@Дядя Женя 1 : it's better to know if you can do maps ( tricks what you need to do is the most important thing to let's try with dummy). We don't care if it's novice or moderate, we need a good rate for all player, if you start to consider if the map is novice, moderate, it 'l lbe too confusing (edited)
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:29:48Z
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dat novice
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now it wants me to test if this even possible
11:30
not hard/easy
11:30
ok, it is
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@ƒirewave I made a difficulty level before, but jao said thats suck and told me to make "Easy/Hard/Impossible" gradation
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"deepfly bind makes the dummy recast his hook "Yes. Not sure if its useful" combined with deepfly bind you can make your dummy shoot you with laser without falling
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:33:08Z
wooooow
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Okay, but do you consider it which mod is it ? Novice, Moderate ? Or you look at tricks that you need
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:33:58Z
I have comments
11:34
you always can read it if map is tricky
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@ƒirewave so what good would the rating be for novice players if you don’t consider the server type
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:34:18Z
and somewhat understand what's hard about this map
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@ƒirewave it would be literally unusable for novice players because easy could mean anything
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:35:20Z
Good news is >> novice maps don't have such hard parts as mod/brutal do
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so the "tricky" for novice almost always will mean "Easy for brutal player"
11:36
I mean there aren't lot variety of technics with dummy on novice
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Hum right but it will be so much confusing jao i guess
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:37:25Z
why?
11:37
Just read a comment for novice map. It says "Hammer Hit"
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And you like: "Ok, I'll go for it" (edited)
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Then if you do that, all player need to know if on novice he can do easy/hard then on moderate the same then the same on brutal. That create too much different rate for only 1 player
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I speak about rate per mod
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:41:11Z
Just wait a little
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I will make list of technics counts as tricky for each serv
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Any good image hostings?
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I don't understand your question
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@ƒirewave why would it be confusing if it’s consistent (edited)
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@Дядя Женя discord cdn troll
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Okay then I wait to see how it 'll be zzzz (edited)
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@ƒirewave is it confusing for you that 1-5* on novice mean something else than 1-5* on moderate?
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When you start teewolrds is it i guess
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:51:55Z
@jao discord is actually ok for hosting xD
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rly.
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 11:55:54Z
this game is so rp
11:58
@Дядя Женя Cavity gay map but dummy possible
11:58
Moderate
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 11:59:39Z
Im making rules rn
11:59
Need to post it before accepting new reports
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Dont mix it with the srv type
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12:20
Just say if its easy/tricky to do
12:21
On novice almost eberything is easy with dummy, dont just add tricky there, unless you have an ACTUAL tricky part in there
12:21
What is a pro player supposed to read into the list if there is a novice map which says „tricky“ or impossible
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then maybe you need another rating for braindead stuff
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 12:51:03Z
What is a pro player supposed to read into the list if there is a novice map which says „tricky“ or impossible
comment
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but you can’t have comments if it’s on ddnet.tw
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 12:52:00Z
why not
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its called .class:hover { } (edited)
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@Дядя Женя because you only get 10 by 20 pixels of space next to the map. (edited)
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 12:53:02Z
you can't make onhover message?
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I cant indeedtroll
12:54
Dont even know how to python
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 12:54:22Z
python shit
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Woulde be possible tho
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 12:54:37Z
omg
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Takes more effort, dont know if they like it
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 12:54:44Z
what's so hard about that
12:55
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Onhover ^^^
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But someone needs to put some extra effort in it. I dont know if they want that. Ask the developers i guess.
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 12:58:04Z
it's web-developers problem if they can't make simple onhover message
12:58
good reason to learn)
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No, it is about the extra time they need to invest
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As long as people dont get paid you cant expect them to do what you like
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 12:59:29Z
What about time I will spend on making database for them
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lol simple onhover
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wtf
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Just ask them instead of this discussion lol
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:00:16Z
.tablerow3:hover { /* two lines of css */ }
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I will not
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Im busy making DB
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Lol it is your project so if you want an on hover thingy ask it otherwise it wont be there.
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@Дядя Женя ur shit
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"calls using excell making a db"
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troll
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:03:46Z
you want to call this "list"? (edited)
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or table maybe 🤔
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ye its a list
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@Дядя Женя too complex
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you should make it so that comments aren’t needed
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:10:50Z
impossible
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Or I can mark technics needed for finish
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ddnet web sucks anyway
13:11
good old 2009 look
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:12:14Z
@jao whats complex about it
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Im trying to make "easy" marks for maps, that must have no problem for players, whos able to complete the map itself
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and "tricky" for technics required, that may cause problems for players of this skill level
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So you should have no problem playing "Easy" map with dummy if you know that you're skilled enough to finish that map
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and if you finished everything from "Easy" section, you may want to complete Tricky ones. So you can read onhover message and check if its ok for you
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For example if you have problems with hookfly, you hover and its says "Dragpart and Tricky laser"
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so you know its ok for you
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ur onhover thing is the title attr in html tag
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:21:03Z
yes, even easier
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if your system is good you wont need any comments
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:22:10Z
...
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Are you kidding?
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:22:44Z
Can you even imagine a system like that that uses no comments? (edited)
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:22:55Z
"Tricky for dummy"
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what does it mean?
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hookfly?
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sync movements?
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:23:16Z
or hh to hf transition
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do you see any comments on why maps are at a certain difficulty rating?
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:23:41Z
star rating on ddnet you mean?
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its broken
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there is not even a comment on what novice or moderate means
13:24
it's self explanatory
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:24:06Z
you have 20 graduation
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novice mod brutal and insane
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from 0 to 5 stars each (from 1 actually(
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And you told me not to make difficulty level
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and use 3 levels for that
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Where impossible means just total impossibility
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2 levels left
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"easy" and "tricky"
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I think you need 4 if you don't take server type into account
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:25:27Z
now tell me how do you know if you're able to finish exact easy/tricky
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oh really
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?
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braindead easy tricky impossible
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:25:39Z
???
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Let me find a message
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where I tell you exactly this
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and you're like "ITS BAD ITS CONFUSING"
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"use three levels"
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3 levels are enough if you consider server type, yes
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:26:40Z
may be
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🤔
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ThinkSweat
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thinkgoldfish
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if you don't consider server type it becomes pointless with 3 levels for novice server tho
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:27:50Z
but then "impossible" should not mean impossibility
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because "impossible" means exactly impossibility
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so you just can't finish
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no way
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and 3 additional levels
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for easy medium and hard
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if its "easy" you know that it would be easy if its "tricky" you know that it would be kinda hard
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:33:38Z
but how hard
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and what about novice players
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I can make hammer hit easy
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novice can't
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Ok, Im switching to a new system)))
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Just check it later and let me know if you think Im doing shit and it needs rework 😉
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 13:59:42Z
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Idea goes like this
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what about uroboros?
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any demos of aled made with dummy?
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:01:34Z
looking forward to try the impossible ones xd
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:01:51Z
I dont know about impossible
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wanted to mark only really impossible maps
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but may uroboros go there?
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I mean "aled" and "aled II"
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tecnically possible...
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but...
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ok
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it goes impossible
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to make people like you @ChillerDragon try this, make it after like 100000 attempts
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and feel happy
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:04:05Z
wich part of aled2 is impossible?
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:05:01Z
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just an example
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@Дядя Женя uroboros is pretty easy with dummy
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:05:29Z
🤔
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It's like with a real person
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:05:39Z
it doesnt get harder with dummy than with humans
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I did it so many times
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Yea Chiller is right it's looks easier because you can drop your tee where you want and then have the distance you want
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ye aight but u can't do flying one as easily as with someone (edited)
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Ah right
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:06:48Z
yes
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I speak about common uroboros on the ground
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:06:56Z
its hard to catch by dummy
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and start HF
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ground uroboros is ok for hard
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but hammerfly... idk
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there is no such control
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:07:23Z
it is aeasy to catch dummy sand start hf
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Hammerfly medium
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:07:35Z
who cant finish this map with dummy cant finish it with humans either
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:07:36Z
hammerfly easy
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Hum, i speak hf from a freeze
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:08:11Z
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It's faily for lot of player
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It's hard cuz of kinta
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:08:36Z
how hard is that
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its not regular kinta
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it has hard start + you need to double hook
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while kinta
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I can't even do a rea lkinta with dummy, it's impossible for me
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start is really easy
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with dummy copy move
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:09:13Z
no its easy
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:09:20Z
kinta?
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kinta easy)
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anyway goes hard
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:09:34Z
u never need kinta
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Chiller then explain me, i can't even kinta with dummy
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:09:38Z
u can just fly normal
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Yea right xD
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:09:56Z
normal fly is impossible in 3 tiles
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:10:05Z
well u need a few tiles
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thta true
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Where you see 3 tiles ?
14:10
It's 5
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there is legit 6 yea
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more 6
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:10:56Z
Aled can be hard 🤔
14:11
so its a brutal map
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brutal players will play it and it may be just hard for them
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not so impossible
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Aled with dummy is kinda impossible imo
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:12:19Z
u r noob
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lets ask pros
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:12:59Z
@Kicker
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I'm at medium lvl I guess then i can't anwser you
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But you looks like almost hard lvl Evgesha, why you can use your view
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:13:48Z
I did not play brutals a lot
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:13:57Z
because I want to finish all moderates before
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:14:00Z
took me 2 trys and im bad player
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:14:16Z
its not kinta lol
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u dont need kinta there
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thats the point of this video
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:14:27Z
but as u can see u dont need much sapace
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:14:39Z
oh
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ok
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how has the ddos been these last couple days?
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@Learath2 its hard to connect sometimes but then i dont notice lag
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:17:19Z
my friend can't play RUS servers
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And I can't normally play with him because of my ping on ger
14:17
also zoom is lagging hard
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:26:16Z
what is opposite of "tight"
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:27:10Z
"jao"
14:27
🔥
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:28:00Z
feelsamazingman
14:30
what is an unfaily hh to hf transition
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:32:02Z
Im gonna make a video of each technic
14:32
and make a hyperlink for each
14:32
(hammer hit to hammer fly transition)
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but per definition that can't really be unfaily
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:32:51Z
(hit dummy from freeze, recatch, start hf)
14:33
it could, but I don't know if there any map with teleports at the end of hh
14:34
Ok, lets mean "Unfaily" its when you have hookable blocks
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that's not unfaily either xd
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:36:03Z
yes
14:36
anyway medium
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:36:14Z
@Дядя Женя aled 2 is hard due to the hookfly speed parts
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:36:17Z
cause you can hook as much as you want
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@ChillerDragon Im now making rules for each server individually
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I mean just for novice, mod and brutal
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oldschool and ddmax counts as moderate
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insane as brutal
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Came up with the idea that you never meet real hammer hit to hammer fly transition for example
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on novice
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or uroboros while hammerfly on moderate
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it seems impossible for lower skilled players, but its impossible for them even with real players
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:40:40Z
there is a big diffeerence between impossible and ridicoulous hard
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:40:42Z
but for brutal its like "medium" or "hard"
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aled ez with dummy aled 2 impossible
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exception for lexin ofc
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 14:41:59Z
told ya
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I will never do the aled parts with dummy
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with real player I may do this, but will be hard
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Kicker just came and its easy for him
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@Kicker make a screen please and confirm aled's II impossibility
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@Kicker lexin did aled II with dummy for real? xd
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lexin is insane imo
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jao is insane imo
14:52
im bad
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look how u lick that display in ur pfp
14:53
its insane
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that’s your monitor
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a acer idk name its 144hz 24"
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and a samsung 21"
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your setup is insane imo
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ye imo
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imo is insane imo
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@jao my arch linux is insane too
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debian is insane imo
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 14:56:29Z
ich dachte immer das isn birefkasten xd 🇩🇪 🍺
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german is not insane imo
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french is imo
f3 1
f4 2
15:01
espanol no esta insana en mi opinion
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 15:04:44Z
lmao is imo imo
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is my sentence correct @Ryozuki ?
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 15:05:21Z
español
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ñ <
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what is wrong
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@Ryozuki
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later im playing
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dota
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ranked
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imo is imo imo
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 15:24:15Z
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easy / medium / hard for novice
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not hard 4real
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easy / medium
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you can laser him until the end btw, no need to unfreeze in the middle
15:25
so easy, ok
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easy +1
15:28
You need 0 timing
15:28
It's unfaily if you got a brain
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 15:36:34Z
hard justatest
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 15:37:28Z
banhammer 3
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lol random walljumps
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lmao what map
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 16:03:13Z
pados 2
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 16:11:35Z
not
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Silk touch easy dumy
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ok, ive changed my mind - if its a simple easy/medium/hard on the ddnet website next to the map it should be related to the maps difficulty
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if u could delete any 3 maps from ddnet which ones would it be? for me stronghold , stronghold 2 and stronghold 3
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danAmazing 5
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 17:39:27Z
Chill Lets Climb 1 , 2, 3 (edited)
f3 4
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 17:45:40Z
for me it would be Momento Mori justatest aled aled 2 justatest justatest
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 18:33:19Z
any tournament map is shit
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Memento mori so solo 100% isn't impossible anymore lol
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All maps with a ton of lasers bullets stoppers and other useless shit
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 19:37:12Z
f3 that
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All aim maps
f3 3
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 19:39:27Z
f12
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All Silex's maps justatest (edited)
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 19:52:31Z
All maps
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 19:52:58Z
f3
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 19:53:34Z
If really
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Tons of maps are total shit
19:54
And it would be great if it was deleted or just removed to new "bullshit" server
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lol no
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lot of ppl finished those
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probably
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 20:28:46Z
Thats why it can't be deleted so simply
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 20:31:12Z
Memento Mori has 1 finish justatest
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and deleted
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Just remove it lol
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 20:32:56Z
f3
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 20:34:11Z
By who
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memento mori has no finishes now
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@Дядя Женя guess who lol
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2 botted btw
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GWcorbinHolyFuck
20:36
but both have been deleted
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2?
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syltox twice?
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xd
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:39:46Z
Should I mark insanely hard maps for dummy as impossible?
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why would you even bother with dummy maps as they are already rated
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:40:16Z
So the people could finish it
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and feel happy
21:41
@Im 'corneum what do you mean?
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oh i misunderstood
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:41:23Z
yes
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i would suggest not to come up with some meaningless words for how hard they are. (easy. impossible. medium... u name it) but rather write a little review of the map like so: easy at the beginning. hard dummy drag. a bit faily. then easy.... or something
21:43
most of the maps shouldnt need anything to point out
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:45:16Z
jao convinced me that its bad idea
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a messy rating system will help nobody. even now that its made by testers its confusing at times
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:46:39Z
Im ranking alone rn
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rating depends on server
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So if noob is checking list to find something to play with dummy on novice he must be comfortable on Easy and Medium
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may have some problems with Hard, but "Hard" on Novice means almost nothing for pro player
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well then just use novice mod and brutal and give the regular rating just with dummy considired
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:49:57Z
what do you mean "regular rating"
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the normal ddnet rating
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:51:03Z
the normal ddnet rating is broken
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at the start I was doing exactly this and now Im still doing it
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so I compare difficulty of the map itself and difficulty of playing it with dummy
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then I can give a rating. If its just a little harder, somehow harder or much harder
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But Im using average difficulty of the server
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@Дядя Женя something else that might be nice is a resource listing all the various tricks/binds you can use to manipulate your dummy in ways most players wouldn't realize
21:54
(unless this already exists)
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:54:32Z
called YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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I wanna do it
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that'd be nice!
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:54:43Z
But I suck in Eng
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so I can make silent videos with music
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only
21:55
or find someone to read texts
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even tho i know of the existence of these tricks, im too lazy to learn new binds now ((
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:55:05Z
and someone to write it lol
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oh
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May I use reader?
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My main problem is that I run out of keys to bind that are near wasd 😄
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:56:03Z
just pitch it so sound better and make him reading for me
21:56
@gdin buy better mouse with 4+ extra buttons (edited)
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im so used to my binds, i would fatfinger anything new
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:56:35Z
just like I have
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ahhh ye, mouse could help a lot I suppose
21:56
I've never liked mice with buttons though
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:57:01Z
its ok
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bind mouse4 kill
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i found me a good mouse with buttons that arent placed retarded
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:57:08Z
best bind
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@gdin mice
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murican
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hardcore way is to create like 3 overlays of binds and then rapidly toggle each one during the race (with other binds), as you need
21:58
I might try that
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 21:58:42Z
Im doing this
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yes
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i recdently changed keyboards and now my deepfly/dummy hammer is at the wrong end and im super slow at activating it (edited)
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@gdin Use files & exec. I'm using it for DDrace/fng&zcatch/Gores. It's really usefull when you are out of keys
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ChillerDragon 2019-07-19 22:17:56Z
ya i use key 7 to iterate through my gametypes and echo to show which one is selected
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 22:21:28Z
The moment you realize map gonna be interesting
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You mean 'the moment when you realize map is oldschool because this part wouldn't pass testing of today'
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Дядя Женя 2019-07-19 22:27:08Z
pffff
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failed at finish because of blue tele
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finish it for me pls
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𓆏 Kynilix 𓆏 2019-07-19 22:33:52Z
u
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@ƒirewave ye, that's what I meant by "overlays of binds" haha
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(each one being a different cfg file)
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Oh okay, then good luck
happy 1
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@ChillerDragon 7 ? What the hell, do you play city, zombie and mmorpg ? justatest
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