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Between 2019-07-19 00:00:00Z and 2019-07-20 00:00:00Z

[ddnet:master] 4 new commits

07089be Restart required message when changing Show console - fokkonaut 78f5262 fix build - fokkonaut 3edaf4b Style fixes - fokkonaut ebeeace Merge #1841 - bors[bot]

00:40

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1841 Restart required message when changing Show console

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

02f5723 Force spawn order of teams. Fix #1828 - Learath2 72dcf6f Merge #1838 - bors[bot]

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1838 Force spawn order of teams. Fix #1828

01:02

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #1828 Strong/weak order is wrong when killing a locked team through a death tile

Btw what about showing mapname instead of "Scoreboard" label on TAB

01:40

Should be easy and helpful af

Not usefull xd

A lot of time I need to know the mapname

Server Indo

01:41

Info*

Even before I started making database

or just /mapinfo

@Дядя Женя there is already a pr for it

Would be even better if it showed points as well

that’s too bloated

But harder to make

imo

01:43

yea too

Just look at /mapinfo

01:43

you dont need to check these information like every 5 sec while you are playing

Its uncomfortable

having map name is still neat

take 5 secs to write the command or on server enter look at the MOTD, all information is there

I’m not even sure if there’s a sane way to get points client side

You would need to send some messages again, which is just useless

y

If the motd is on the client side also, you can just parse it. Its stupid, but works

01:47

XD

that doesn’t count as sane way

Yes, but works))))

01:48

Also

01:48

What about fixing fucking dummy switching on gun while hammerfly

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Its annoying

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Just played with dummies with my friend

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This problem appears tooo often

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For him and me

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Im using "+toggle" for HF, he's using built-in bind

01:49

Why not just NOT switch any weapon

I think that’s fixed on master

It would make lasering possible, for example (edited)

01:51

You can still take laser on dummy, toggle hammerfly and he will laser you

01:51

But then start switching

01:51

So why not just let player switch the weapons himself

01:52

You can even make a setting for this "switch dummy on hammer while hammerfly"

01:52

The most annoying ddnet bug

switching to hammer when activating a hammerfly setting makes sense lol

So if we think this way

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We can go even further

01:54

And dont reset inputs while dummy is in hammerfly mode

01:55

So you will be able to hold hook up as dummy and laser your player

then it won’t be a hammerfly setting anymore

Yes

01:55

It would be for everything

so you realize that you don’t make sense

ThinkSweat

the purpose of it is to easily hammerfly with dummy

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that’s it

Also we found a bug I guess

01:57

Copy moves is not overwriting hammerfly

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But im not 100% sure

could also argue the other way around would be a bug (edited)

01:58

if I understand you correctly

Im saying that copy moves shouls overwrite any input from dummy

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Even if hammerfly is on

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Sometimes you need to jump over freeze and fall together with dummy after hammerfly, its easy to do with copy moves

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Thats an example

k

When toggling copy moves you expect your dummy to copy moves

02:00

Not still hammerfly

open an issue for it

Also

02:01

(Yes, i have MORE)

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My friend came up with an idea

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Its hard to make

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Or not so hard**

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Server sided btw

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Copy moves is very often brokes

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i mean desynchronization of movements with player

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When you're trying to pass solo with copy moves

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It depends on the ping difference I guess

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So my friend suggested to send input info just once, from main

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For both. Main and dummy

oO

02:04

the dummy is on a different connection

But I don't know if its safe to do that, because it makes possible to write a cheat which would send to server just "Tee named XXX is my dummy. Move it" (edited)

you could take control over other players

Yes

02:06

Thats what I mean

not gud

But the idea was good (edited)

02:06

It needs some improvements

not worth it

Maybe

you’re gaining very little for a lot complexity

Do you already fixed teleport prediction?

teleports can’t be predicted

Why

they are random

Because of desrination point?

can’t predict randomness

Ok

02:09

Another complex thing is server side prediction

02:10

Maybe useless, not sure.

what

I mean a feature when server ... Oh, its hard to explain

02:10

So did you play cs:go?

yes

There is this feature

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When you have like 500 ping

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And shoot

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You will hit the target if you did so on client

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Because server is comparing your ping and input delay

tw is way too fast paced for that

that works well for 3d games, but will look strange in 2d

No more client-sided bugs for now)

02:13

What about fizing servers already

02:13

Whats wrong with them

02:13

Slow connecting and bugs with zoom

some attack I guess

Russian is just impossible to play for most of people (but not me, Im living next to hoster ofc)

ofc

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

776a59b M Sooth - ddnet-maps

its not a sv bug

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1842 [WIP] Fix timer

I'm really unsure about this one. DEPENDS on #1839

@heinrich5991 when you are here please take a look at this last pr's last commit, I don't think it's correct tbh

@Learath2 the score message we send is race not ddrace? ^^

Yep, check CGameContext::SendRecord

09:36

the Record message that is

what's the new RaceShowRecord?

idk, I added it to emulate the old behaviour

ah

that branch of the if statement was taken for servers that are IsRace but !IsDDrace

ah

09:37

okay, sounds fair

and showing the record is what it seemed to do, hence the name

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There is one more problem however, I just couldn't get the checkpoints working for the life of me

09:40

the server always sends a m_Check of 0

I guess GameClient()->m_GameInfo.m_RaceShowRecord && GameClient()->m_GameInfo.m_RaceRecordMessage could just be GameClient()->m_GameInfo.m_RaceShowRecord then?

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(not blocking for merge)

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@Learath2 what do you mean with checkpoints?

09:41

is that something that worked before that I broke?

who uses checkpoints anyways?

09:41

do racers use them?

@heinrich5991 I'm not sure tbh, but I don't think checkpoint times work anymore

09:42

tbh deen didn't even know where the negative time was coming from, he thought it was ghost

09:42

(it's the checkpoint timer)

where should it come from?

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from that ddrace record message?

from another message called sv_ddracetime

do we send both?

but the server never seems to send an m_Check != 0, I don't think you broke this

09:43

yeah we do send both

09:43

ddracetime gets sent on checkpoints

that sounds broken

maybe you need a working score backend?

09:44

let me find a map hosted on ddnet with checkpoints

I thought we used the game type in the client to determine which of the messages we accept

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so we'd only interpret all these messages as one kind

09:45

even though we send both? ^^

I think they are discrete messages

09:46

with different types

oh, DDRACETIME vs RECORD

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okay

yeah

afk for a bit

okay, checkpoints apparently need a working score backend, so they work fine on servers with one

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@heinrich5991 I think we need to keep the m_RaceRecordMessage check there aswell, as if it's not true the server wouldn't be sending the record in the first place

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

25ec19b Set m_Race. Fix #1806 - Learath2 78ac5ce Send the flag from the server - Learath2 2f23b5c Merge #1839 - bors[bot]

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1839 Set m_Race. Fix #1806

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #1806 Ingame "Ghost" tab disappears when I click on "Browser"

I don't understand how one can get so sick so quick

What?

I was fine 3 days ago, I had a slight cold 2 days ago, now I don't even feel like moving

feelsbadman

11:12

Enough time to code now then troll

troll

@Learath2 any objections to merging #1842 then? it looks fine

@heinrich5991 nope, you can go ahead, but I have a question about #1839, is m_Race actually the right thing to do here? between all other flags this one looks out of place

I felt it was kinda right, it's for enabling race features like automatic demo recording and ghosts

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@Learath2 do you think it should be renamed?

well I think it's fine now that I think about it that way

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it felt like a replacement to IsRace, so it felt like it was more of a gametype

ah

big tryhard

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js nobo

@archimede67 why not ts

becauz it needs to be transpilled

and

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dont tell me ur not using babel

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r u using plain old js

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?

im ye

omg

"old"

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its ok

im playing a game

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es5

its old

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well

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ur making a discord bot

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so ur using nodejs

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ur not using old js

ye

cuz nodejs implements part of es6 and 7 i think

but howuknow i'm making a dc bot

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@archimede67

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bro

ah

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wait

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we don't see the same thing xd

hm

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im on discord PTB

i have 2 vscode also

i also have 2 xd

i'm on discord normal xd

weeb dev

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feelsbadman

u also have 2 screens

y

im on a laptop with 1 screen

noob dev

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i can't have more xd

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and i don't have more

i bet ur on windows too

no

poggers

not on my laptop

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dis doesnt look like windows

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btw @Ryozuki whats ur vscode theme

one dark pro

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"vorgestern"

Yesterday

ah

13:15

ty

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xd

gestern

no

day before yesterday?

Yes

13:16

sorry

ya english lacks some cool german words

@archimede67 did u leave pc open all night oir what

no sleep

@archimede67 i tells me 31 mins only tho

its a laptop

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so he's in sleep mode the night u know

think_bot

but not shut down

aaa

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im so lazy

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making forms

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is

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boring

ye

even with react

it depends

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if its a big form and what is the data

i have a form that is 474 lines of code

for what data xd

uploading a manga info xd

ah

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@Ryozuki also ur timer resets on every file no?

y

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my time is not real

you want it like that.

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?

no

so change it

u know how?

i did

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its an plugin right

@archimede67 https://streamable.com/io457

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this xd

oof

its quite complex tbh

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the genre things

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but i made it

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am proud

gj

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i have this

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@archimede67 wat does ur bot do

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y i have same

many things but the cool thing is that u can code modules for it

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found it

but basic features are music, fun, nsfw, memes and i'll add some more

monkaS

and also a web interface

ill make my own forum with react

where u can control ur bot, its modules and manage ur server through it

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but its a lot of work

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for 1 person

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a forum with react, good luck xd

why gl

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xd

because it needs to be complete

it will fit my needs

what are ur needs

whathever my website needs are

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idk yet

ok

xd

ok now i need to get back to my real work xd

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #1843 Change spectator view on paused demos

It would be nice if you can select a tee while a demo is paused.

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #1726 cl_predict_freeze/Stopper bobbing

Way too much code to read, @Deleted User do you happen to know what text containers do off the top of your head?

they store text, like u give it a text and have it as a ID to a buffer in the GPU memory, instead of streaming it every frame

I see, is there a limit to how many you can create?

VRAM, but basically no

thanks

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we really should get some documentation, atleast for the base interfaces :/

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even after looking at this thing for 10 years I don't know every part

yeah ur right, would be useful for new coders

(edited)

@Deleted User While I have you here: I was thinking of replacing the color structs you use in the graphics code with the new common ones aswell, is there any immediate reason not to that comes to your mind?

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I left them untouched the last time around b/c I already broke enough and didn't want to piss off more people

aslong the GPU gets the right color codes u can do what u want ;D

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1826 Print the linked libcurl version

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

e80cb9e fix-ClDyncamMinDistance camera spawn - FallenKN 628f673 Merge #1830 - bors[bot]

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1830 fix-ClDyncamMinDistance camera spawn

If you will make somw documentation I could join as coder (edited)

Don't get your hopes up, we've been meaning to get some documentation for atleast a decade

its pretty hard to get into ddnet stuff the first time

@Дядя Женя documentation might be too much to ask, but you can definitely ask questions if you do happen to poke the code some time

is it cpp

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With opengl?

what i mean is how ddnet actually works, all the classes and functions and stuff

cpp, sdl, opengl

Never used sdl before

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))))

but it's all wrapped very well, you would most likely never interact with sdl or opengl at all

Yes, I think so too

in fact @Learath2 knows it xd

https://discord.gg/JEPR2P

@jao

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

b1ed78d Add new flag, Fix #1807 - Learath2 cd89941 Merge #1842 - bors[bot]

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1842 [WIP] Fix timer

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #1807 Ghost shows me a high red + number immediately when I join a server

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