DDraceNetwork - developer

NeXus 2019-07-14 00:47:48Z

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for this you just have to fold all the finishes on all your finished maps

06:24

btw, why

I think I'll start again with the http masters

07:51

I keep ending up with a design I don't really like

so what happend to the donation?

08:12

can we get an official ddnet statment or can i blindly trust konstis statement?

I don't even know what konsti said

that jao convinced deen to not accept the money and ban konsti again

08:15

because he is biggest troll

It was @heinrich5991 who was against taking it and not @jao

08:16

I think it's a fair decision, paying for an unban shouldn't really be a thing

08:16

anyways, I've been trying to link this god damn json library for the last 2 hours and i've had enough of it

no paying for a unban is wrong. But you know what is also wrong. Banning konsti in the first place. He is a valuable member of the community. Also nobody forced you to unban him only because he paid.

I'm replacing it with nlohmann/json or Tencent/rapidjson asap

08:18

I knew you'd be like this @ChillerDragon, fortunately I don't care much for this "everyone should be able to do whateverthefuck they want"

08:18

you can't go around spouting racist bs and get away with it

yes it is unlucky that such a nice person doesnt fit the current anti racist mindset

Well but i do agree with both of you guys here. But you didn't have to unban him.

anti racist mindset?

08:19

Are you on drugs @ChillerDragon?

08:19

When was racism ever okay?

racism was nevre okay but hating against it is hmm

Normal

08:20

You consume way too much reddit

i prefer to not exclude racist people and let them in their bubble. But rather see their good parts and then hang out with them and try to talk with them.

I'm all for not making this a "safespace" doesn't mean I'll tolerate racism

i spend like 20min on reddit...

Each hour xd

some of his racism sounds like jokes and its not like 24/7

We tolerated it for so long, because they seemed like jokes

Didn't saw racist joke for a month

rather improve ddnet bot and censor racist messages than excluding a person. Its not that konsti choose to be racist @Learath2

but after banning the guy for what, 50 times now, he still didn't stop

True

do you think he decided to become racist just to be evil

@ChillerDragon It's not a choice to be racist?

i dont think so

Hi, I have a way to fix Tune zones, so that the projectiles of players inside another tune zone dont look buggy to you anymore. The only disadvantage is, that the projectiles would disappear every 4th tick (not noticalbe in normal gameplay). Is it worht it? I guess no?

i also dont think its a choice to be hompophoic etc

It most definitely is a choice @ChillerDragon

if you want to be really tolerant you have to tolerant the people who arent

08:23

or you re not any better

@fokkonaut hmm, maybe we could fix it properly with ddnet

But only in ddnet

@ChillerDragon No, this is just insane, you don't tolerate things that are unacceptable

konsti excludes peopkle for being muslems and we exclude him for being racist

08:23

who says we are better now

Chillerdragon would help an terrorist with blowing shit up because it was his legacy

Are you all right @ChillerDragon?

did konsti harm any one on this discord?

Would you support ISIS spreading their agenda just so they have "free speech"?

i dont know i have no contact to ISIS

08:24

i only hacve contact to konsti and i think things went wrong here

yeah easy way out for the libertarian

08:24

"Idk that faction"

@ChillerDragon thats why you aint admin

i guess

I don't feel like escalating this right now, but I'll just say that I find your position completely insane and borderline the problem with society nowadays

08:26

It is necessary to draw lines in the sand on some things, not everything can be FREE

sure

I still agree with banning this guy, but it should not be a lifetime.

and i am happy you are against my position

08:26

because you should be allowed to

@n000b what's the point of unbanning him every 10 days?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM @Learath2 this is also fucked tbh

Neel Kolhatkar

Modern Educayshun

Well 10 days is too short, but what is the problem giving new chances even if it is already his 100th.

@ChillerDragon I'm very familiar with that video, while it is insane, I find it no surprise that you'd link me that

i want say that i am not like this xd

He knows what is gonna happen and maybe he think that being able to talk is more worth than getting banned sooner or later.

@n000b do you think he changed? @ChillerDragon thinks he shouldn't need to change, atleast he has a clear position on the issue

08:29

If you think he changed, you also have a valid position

08:30

If you think he didn't change then my argument is that "He will just get banned again thus there is no point of unbanning him"

08:31

@ChillerDragon you aren't like the guys in that video obv

maybe the one with trhe glasses xd

Point is, konsti got banned a handful of times and he didn't change, a donation shouldn't get him an unban

i fully agree that money for unban is fucked

08:32

even if it could fill ddnet pockets xd

people also offer money for name change

yea no thats not the way to go i think

that's a little better than for an unban

08:33

as long as we can verify that a name belongs to someone, we can do a name change

paid namechanges could pay the admins time invloived in changing it

08:34

but thats a different topic i guess

it's just some work, so the donation is like covering for the work

same thoughts @Learath2 ❤

paying for an unban is like paying so the rules don't apply to you

sounds like trump

08:35

i think konsti is big trump fanboi

But why dont we accept the gift and keep him banned? (edited)

agree on that

08:35

and still honor him

he told me he didnt donate for unban

He sent the donation with the expectation to be unbanned

08:35

we returned it because we didn't unban him

he was already sponsoring chile while banned

he donated because he supports ddnet, where did he say it had anything to do with being unbanned..

I'm sure @deen and @heinrich5991 wouldn't have a problem with accepting it if he sends it again

lmao

i dont think he expected a unban

@noby he literally came up to me ingame and said 500e for unban lmao

doesnt mean he said it seriously

that was probably a mix of jokje and hope but he cant expect that

im sure he wanted unban but that doesnt mean he actually seriously means its dependant on that

you give him too much or too little credit

and the excuse of saying it attracts ddosers

08:37

i find it a bit silly

08:37

hey but its not my problem, i dont pay the servers, up to u

@Learath2 if an unban isbworth so much money, don't you think he would care and try to follow the rules instead of getting banned within 2 weeks?

anyways, I don't think anyone would have a problem with taking his money no strings attached

there were n ostrings attached

@Ryozuki it was implied that he wanted to pay 500e for an unban, then he paid the 500, there were implied strings imho

nope

08:39

u just assumed it

08:39

he sent the money without u telling them ok

08:39

he never expected

08:39

a unban

08:39

ur just plain dumb

The guy literally came up to me and asked if I'd unban if he donated 500

08:39

How much clearer can it get?

HE IS TROLL OFC HE WOULD DO THAT

08:39

but did u ever agreed with him? NO

in #general deen just said that he asked right after the donation for unban

THERE ARE NO STRINGS ATTACHED

WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING HIS EVERY ACTION WTF?

only integers

08:40

(sorri)

Does he need to sign a fucking contract for things he says to be serious?

im not defending his action, im making evidence of how dumb of u for returing 500€

@Ryozuki he is a troll so ofcourse he would say it wasn't for an inban

08:40

Same logic

At this rate he was never racist, nor was he ever breaking any rules, it was just jokes and memes, so we should unban him anyway

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ur making shit up now

08:41

i never said he is not a nazi

08:41

if a nazi sent me money the last i would do is return it lmao

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You are telling me what he said to me point blank was not serious

08:42

How am I supposed to ever verify what he says if even his words themselves can't be trusted?

u dont

why do u have to verify anything

u shut up and take the money

to accept money

08:42

ye exactly

No he trolled ryozuki by saying it wasn't for an inban

Look, it was courtesy to return his donation when he didn't get what we think he expected

ye courtesy

08:43

more like looking ridiculous in front of everyone

but its openly visible that he donated a lot of money. soy ou cant just tak eit and shut up about it

and it will still be visible that he doanted lot of money even if u return it

And it was a reasonable assumption on our part that he expected an unban (given he literally told me that)

@Im 'corneum finaly someone with a brain

but u dont have to comply with that

So if he wants to send it regardless, atleast I wouldn't have a problem with it

a donation is implied that there is nothing on retunr

08:44

eveyrone would be ok with that

08:44

with u not unbaning

Well I don't really want to talk for others

Conclusion both side got good arguments, if he wants he can send the money again. Discussion closed.

It's not that far stretched that after taking any money from him, people would think that if he ever gets unbanned it'd be because his money "made us relax the rules"

08:46

I personally don't think that

08:46

But I can see someone taking that position

08:48

bitcoins?

yy

0.039 bitcoins

08:48

isnt that a lot

500$

of money

what are you buying @ChillerDragon

more 300 but 500 would be funny

08:48

ddnet donation troll

buying weapons on black market

08:49

oh wow it's actually a ddnet donation?

2

2

in case i get banned for supporting nazis troll

time to reject it

i guess rejecting btc is waste of money cuz fees

@Ryozuki are you being intentionally dense like always or are you just joking? I can't tell today

how can he know its u chiller

08:51

im just joking

i donated with same adddress already

@ChillerDragon well since the network is very unbusy nowadays you can send with minimal fees troll

do you know how much?

is bitcoin ded?

nah

08:52

its increasing in price

08:52

probably stupid of me to give it away

where to buy bitcoin @Learath2

ask my mom

08:52

she has sone

I think fstd even got a 3 spb transaction through

08:53

@ChillerDragon I usually put 5 satoshi per byte

u chill with fstd still?

takes like half an hour to get through though

idk my wallet decides i guess

sometimes tho it's like 10 mins

@ChillerDragon wat wallet u using

exodus

@Ryozuki I usually get btc from coinbase or localbitcoins

@Learath2 and u?

08:54

is exodus made with electron

08:54

looks like

i think so

Electrum

looks slick

ye

nice light theme

I used to have an entire node

exodus has more crypto currencies than bitcoin right

Then some patch broke syncing, I didnt have a backup and I didnt want to download all that shit again

@Learath2 whats bitcoin cash?

It's a fork of btc

08:56

xd

is it better

def-

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

acd62b5 Remove bitcoin address - def-

lol

xxxd

????

08:56

nani

haha

fokkonaut

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1822 Fix buggy projectiles if other players are in tune zones

Different players can have different tunings for projectiles now, without them looking buggy. The projectile will reset every 4th tick. I changed the VERSION_DDNET_ANTIPING_PROJECTILE, because we need a clientside prediction for this now, which will then be that version, so they dont reset for new ddnet clients.

Yeah idk about that

08:56

@deen y?

to much donations

08:57

oo

@Learath2 https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=67987&sid=f7494927e7f79ccd6a5a2f21d445dc0b#p67987 lol

08:57

xd

See that's what he always does @Ryozuki

08:57

Damned if you do, damned if you don't

well i dont care anymore do whathever lmao

08:58

i agree with him being banned if he is racist and a nazi

08:58

but why remove the bitcoin address

Yeah I want to know that one aswell :P

08:58

Too much bitcoin?

Because it's way too much work to pay out

@deen might aswell keep it as btc?

might go down to 0 € though

Might go up to 20k again ○/

08:59

Think of it as an investment for ddnets future

08:59

We could have proper ddos protection

xD

Anyways, I don't mind cashing it out if you don't want to bother

09:01

Or could remove the address I guess

lol i just realized you could buy a new laptop

I went back and got my laptop @Im 'corneum

ah

It ended up cheaper then a new one :D

didnt u just say there is no need for a stable future @deen? So if you don rely on that money and you are too lazy. Then ye see it as an investment. Its not even your money.

I think I'll host another GER2 experiment soon

btc was a nice dontation method :c

@ChillerDragon do you only have btc? or did you invest in other coins aswell?

i invested in iota but i think i lost the coins in trhe void

I keep some monero, ethereum and bitcoin

09:05

iota :((

i was pretty early

the money I lost on iota keeps me up at nights

i never was able to sell it i think i lost my seed or the wallet was broken idk

anyways, does anyone have a problem with me replacing the json library?

what r u talkin about xd

09:07

in ddnet?

yeah

idc

@Learath2 damn coinbase wants to know all about me, nope

@Ryozuki yeah no anonymity there

09:11

if you want to identify yourself as little as possible localbitcoins is the way to go

09:12

but even there most sellers wont deal with you if you haven't done the id verification

I'll sell you bitcoins with a 10% markup if you want

fokkonaut

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1823 Fix 'several players were found' on /rank

If no player was found, it should say 'x is not ranked', instead it says 'Several players were found', that is because if the result is -1, it will say that. With the default result being -2, it can no longer say that, instead it will say that the player is not ranked.

great, so first I have to send the btcs to another address, wait a few hours and then I can pay them out

i actually asked you if it is okay to donate btc but you keept ignoring me as mostly

nah, I was eating breakfast

if you would communicate that and responde to any of the pms im sending you since 20.06.2019 that would be nice.

09:41

and not ignore me in pms and complain in public abaut the donation.

there were no questions

@deen wait a few hours?

yeah, first to verify my id, which takes 5 days apparently

you don't already have an account at an exchange?

and then wait a few hours for the blockchain to realize that I wanted to transfer money

09:43

I have about 10 accounts but none of them can get out money immediately

09:43

always have to transfer to another address first

well a block is out every 10 minutes, you usually get your transaction through in 3 blocks, so 30 mins to transfer to the exchange does sound reasonable

09:44

huh, does actually take a while now that i think about it

09:44

and no exchange in their right minds would just accept confirmations and not wait for the transaction to actually get in a block

Meh, spent nearly one hour trying to figure this out now

09:45

way too complicated, but sending the money back also doesn't work

it's usually just one bitcoin transaction to an exchange wallet

yes, but why am I supposed to that? It's expensive

even at 10 satoshi per byte that would come out to sth like 0.3$

09:47

go crazy and make it 50 satoshi per byte and you are still supposed to be paying less then 2$ on transaction fees

09:48

it's usually the exchanges rate that's worse then the average rate that gets you

09:49

If you'd rather not bother with the extra transaction you could always put up a bitcoin address to one of your exchange wallets

09:53

you can also always just send it to me and I'll redonate it through paypal

I have decided I don't like cmake

10:09

@heinrich5991 lets go back to bam pls

10:11

or maybe autohell

no

lets ddos paypal by sending money around

if you are going to switch buildsystems again, why not switch to something like meson or tup?

we wont switch lol

i still can't connect to the ddnet servers, why lmao

10:24

even client switched

#general

10:24

why u keep asking this everyday

is it still ddosing?

yes

okay, shit

I suggest running your own server and playing there with your friends

10:25

and not making it public

who is ddosing nowadays I wonder

its even save to make it public small servers usually dont get attacked

I guess it's a good time to run a GER2 while they are attacking

Is there a way to use a function from CServer inside of CConsole?

@fokkonaut hmm, not really, doesn't sound like it'd be appropriate either

10:30

what are you trying to do?

I added a paramter to command registration, which defines the access level. I only want to show specific commands in /cmdlist, not only USER accessables, if logged in to rcon, also chat commands that only admins can use

10:31

Therefore I need GetAuthedState() from CServer :D

@fokkonaut there is a reason we didn't add the access level as a parameter to register back in the day

Why?

10:32

because of this?

It leads to this issue

i will find a way

10:32

xd

10:32

Well, probably noz

10:32

not*

ofc there is a way, it'll just create a lot of spaghetti code

:D

Well I have an idea

Tell me

@Learath2 well, then you probably pay paypal transaction fees additionally

actually no, the way we implemented chat commands doesn't allow it @fokkonaut :/

xd

we set the console command level low before executing chat commands

10:35

so the access level information is lost

10:36

oh actually that seems fixed

10:37

@fokkonaut in ConUserCommandStatus instead of calling access_status with IConsole::ACCESS_LEVEL_USER, call it with m_AccessLevel

10:38

CGameContext::OnMessage seems to be setting it properly before executing chat commands

Dope

10:39

Thanks, lol

doesitwork?

Yes

one problem I see is that admins should be able to execute any rcon command from chat

10:40

but I distinctly remember it not working

No, not working

10:40

only if I add the CFGFLAG_CHAT to the commands

I wonder where it gets stuck

^

oh we flag it

10:41

Console()->SetFlagMask(CFGFLAG_CHAT);

Yes

10:42

CONSOLE_COMMAND("super", "?v[id]", CFGFLAG_SERVER|CFGFLAG_CHAT|CMDFLAG_TEST, ConSuper, this, "Makes player v super", AUTHED_ADMIN)

10:42

this would allow admins to use super as /super in chat

if you do add access level to register, make sure you set it properly as default

wym

if no access level is passed, set it to a reasonable default, like ACCESS_LEVEL_ADMIN

I wont allow no argument

Well then you'd have to go and replace every call to Register without introducing any behavioral changes

10:44

might aswell let the compiler do the work

i just did xD

10:45

It is not too much

I can't get anything to link for the life of me

10:53

I give up, I'll fix another issue

Or look at my pull requests

10:53

:)

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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

a312247 Add 355 € donation by ChillerDragon - def-

@Learath2

10:56

https://github.com/fokkonaut/BlockDDrace/commit/9b2c4f2068fe744bae2550132be9ea0caadbdbe6

10:56

xD

def-

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

f1f9886 Remove 2013-18 - def-

@ChillerDragon ehre

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errornous client id

11:06

love it

11:07

trying to get dbg_dummies to work again without them crashing the server xD

oh i had that latley

11:08

when spamming too much helath and armor

lol

11:08

?

th erronous client id thing yy

why should it come from too much armor

idk maybe the get ids

no

11:08

that has nothing to do with client ids

ah nvm

11:09

it was "id erro"

11:09

https://github.com/DDNetPP/DDNetPP/issues/256

Crash on drop armor · Issue #256 · DDNetPP/DDNetPP

[19-07-11 18:24:38][chat]: *** 'ykz.iNtox[y]' entered and joined the game [19-07-11 18:24:38][game]: team_join player='5:ykz.iNtox[y]' team=0 [Thread 0x7fffeeeb9700 ...

11:09

mi nobo

11:09

ya dbg dummies could be usefull for circleci

11:10

if we had a sleep command as well ...

https://github.com/DDNetPP/DDNetPP/blob/master/src/engine/server/server.cpp#L137

DDNetPP/DDNetPP

Based on DDraceNetwork by deen & contributors (www.ddnet.tw) which is based on the great game teeworlds (www.teeworlds.com). - DDNetPP/DDNetPP

11:10

why are you gay

didnt u plan something there @Learath2

just read log

oh no it was some await comnmand

11:10

who says im gay?

you are gay

1

xxxd

LOL

11:10

WTF

I looked into it @ChillerDragon

11:10

Not too easy

hm sad

11:11

what about good ol sleep

The console is very much single threaded :D

imagien this in circleci ./DDNet-Server "gdb_dummies 32;sleep 20;shutdown"

@ChillerDragon if you spawn too many entities, it makes sense that there are no free ids xD

mimimi

11:11

issue is closed already onbo

11:11

you are gay

1

11:11

that nice

lol, you were literally trying to spawn 999999999999 hearts

ddnet bot no u xxxd

Then who is gay?

11:16

m_TrailProjs[i]->m_Pos += (m_TrailHistory[HistoryPos + 1].m_Pos - m_TrailProjs[i]->m_Pos)*(AdditionalLength / NextDist); why does this line crash in latest ddnet but not in ddnet 9.0.2

whoknows

yea, i dont

11:17

thats why i am asking

depends on how it crashes

with a nice popup

11:18

Debug Assertion Failed, deque subscript out of range

well there are two subscripts there so either i or HistoryPos + 1 is going out of range

I wonder why it doesnt crash in 9.0.2

I've never hated anything as much as trying to work with json in c++

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

fabdc73 Fix 'several players were found' on /rank - fokkonaut d3c6f1b Merge #1823 - bors[bot]

11:34

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1823 Fix 'several players were found' on /rank

@Learath2 sorry for asking again, but why is string formatting not enough for building json?

I need to iterate over players

11:35

it quickly leads to a very ugly format string

hm okay

I mean I did have a workaround planned

11:35

still don't want to commit ugly code

@heinrich5991 send help, can't find the issue for my problem xd

@fokkonaut use gdb

@heinrich5991 I have another problem though, I'm having trouble designing a nice architecture in the code

i am using visual studio

use its debugger

11:36

and ignore @Learath2 next line

11:36

11:37

@heinrich5991 I'm having trouble getting it clean, I have a class that maintains a connection to the masterservers

like the old CRegister?

11:37

I had another class to represent an HTTP server info

11:37

with a serialize and unserialize function

like the oldIMasterServer

okay

It's hard to talk without a reference

11:38

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/compare/master...Learath2:dd_pr_http_masters2

ddnet/ddnet

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - ddnet/ddnet

11:39

I'm not very pleased about the interface to GetServerList

11:39

And RegisterUpdate is borderline legal

11:39

It's code that shouldn't ever be on the client

@Learath2 I don't actually think you need to share code between server/client beyond "get the contents of hmasters.cfg"

11:46

on server side we have register.cpp, on client side we have serverbrowser.cpp

I wanted to have a CHRegister that handles that stuff, but then it'd need access to the internals of CHMasterServer

11:47

I don't think serverbrowser.cpp should be handling the specifics of the protocol tbh, even the current pieces look ugly

hm, okay

Maybe a CHClientMaster and a CHServerMaster that implement the same interface?

hm.

and a base class that implements the common part

I mean CMasterServer before was just involved with doing a DNS lookup for the master servers

11:48

if we'd keep things the same way, we could make it a pretty interface to a list of strings in hmasters.cfg

Currently CHMasterserver reads a hmasters, checks that the masters are valid, and keeps checking a couple times

11:49

if a master is live its marked with STATE_LIVE

11:49

that's all I want it to do tbh

what is that for?

So the other parts are simpler

11:51

e.g. Register knows for sure that the LIVE masters are working so it can just query those

11:51

if a master dies otherwise we'd keep sending it messages

I think you should lower the interval in which you're sending updates to masters that 1) have banned you or 2) return errors on your requests

11:53

i.e. register has to deal with that anyway, it's just one of the failure cases(?)

I was thinking of letting the client and the server parts mark the master servers ERROR, so the common part tries a couple times, and if they still wont respond mark them INVALID

11:55

I basically want to keep all the code involved in new classes so that we can test it independently

11:56

So hooks into the existing code needs to be kept small

yep, I'm in favor of that

11:56

but that doesn't imply sharing code between server and client

That's why I didnt really want to make serverbrowser.cpp aware of the protocol

then let's maybe create a new file

11:57

call it foobar.cpp until we figure out a name

But the problem is that the server and client need to share some code and definitely not share other code

(I feel like having another status endpoint just increases complexity)

11:58

okay, so currently it's status endpoint and reading hmasters.cfg

Yed, the status endpoint can be removed, but I think it's nice to have

12:00

I can inagine using it

12:02

Even without that we still need it to read hmasters.cfg

yep

12:02

but that can be nicely contained

12:02

it'd essentially be a glorified list with a storage backend and a default

I mean even if we share that code there is some common part, as soon as you have a common part its not that hard to add more

what common part is there beyond this?

I mean if you leave it just handling hmasters its still a common part

yes. but that's a nice clean interface, one can do the rest in the respective client/server source

Thats 2 more source files

yes

Also its not that clean

12:08

As both the server part and the client part will need to keep a list of masters

12:08

Essentially doubling up code

I don't follow

Its what we have now

12:09

Cregister and cserverbrowser both keep states for the masters on their own

12:09

So I guess state handling should also be common code

hmm

Maybe with a better interface it'd look acceptable, but the current interface is very much meh

12:13

All the getters and setters

I guess you'd need to keep state per masterserver in the register code anyway

You'd also need to keep state in the client code

I'd keep the state in the client/server code then

12:25

since otherwise you'd share weird stuff

I'll give it another go, but I dont see if itll fit together nicely

fokkonaut

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #1490 dont use normal keybinds when ctrl+shift is pressed

@deen @ano also seems to get the certificate thing, I wonder if its not isolated to china

12:51

We should be able to hook in with CURLOPT_SSL_CTX_FUNCTION and print the cert out

@Learath2 do they also see the correct certificate in the browser?

Yes

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1824 Annotate `str_timestamp_format` with format arguments

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

c8198cc Annotate str_timestamp_format with format arguments - heinrich5991 af083f0 Merge #1824 - bors[bot]

14:19

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1824 Annotate `str_timestamp_format` with format arguments

apparently on mac osx you get /usr/bin/openssl linked to libressl

18:55

...

18:59

why must everything be a struggle? can't get openssl linked on mac os without fiddling around forever

19:00

@ChillerDragon do you happen to know the proper solution?

yes

19:06

hombrew tells u even

19:07

@Learath2 i have this in my .bash_profile

export PATH="/usr/local/opt/openssl/bin:$PATH"
export LDFLAGS="-L/usr/local/opt/openssl/lib"
export CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/local/opt/openssl/include"
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/local/opt/openssl/lib/pkgconfig"

look at that mess

19:08

Yeah I didn't ever think that'd be the "proper" solution

doesnt look mess to me at all

19:09

i used to copy brew libs into xcode paths

19:09

that was a mess

I added OPENSSL_ROOT_DIR to my cmake arguments

19:31

atleast that's just one argument I need to bother with

19:32

Apparently dbg_curl, already prints the certificates :/

apparently not if the certificate verification fials

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fails*

19:43

how stupid, you'd want to know the cert if it failed more then if it succeeded

Learath2

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1825 Add debugging for certificates

Might add this, it's just for abusing the CI right now.

oh I bet the windows build doesn't link to openssl...

19:46

Please, for the sake of everything that's holy, can someone build this branch with openssl?

19:46

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1825

Add debugging for certificates by Learath2 · Pull Request #1825 ...

Might add this, it's just for abusing the CI right now.

19:49

ofc it doesn't link on linux, because fuck backwards compatible apis

19:52

Maybe I should just open a cafe somewhere

cafe?

like a proper cafe, where one sells coffee

19:53

I like coffee, it's simple, you put beans in coffee comes out

19:53

always

19:54

I bet it's because curl is linked to an ancient version of openssl, that's causing the executable to link against an old af version of openssl

and to no surprise the version of curl on circleci links to openssl 1.0.2s

20:07

Imagine releasing a mission critical library, to be used by millions of people, by thousands of pieces of software that run critical cryptographic operations and having documentation worse then teeworlds with backwards compatibility of a cs students first attempt to write a library

20:08

I don't know how to get this to link either, next project

20:13

even if I get it to link, curl on windows uses winapi crypto, and the hook i'm using doesn't support winapi crypto

Okay I'm calling curl bug on that, I'm not sure why it only happens on some people

20:21

https://github.com/curl/curl/commit/8996300 fixes a TODO, that says on windows only the first name would be checked on certs with alternative names

schannel: add support for CURLOPT_CAINFO · curl/curl@8996300

Move verify_certificate functionality in schannel.c into a new file called schannel_verify.c. Additionally, some structure defintions from schannel.c have been moved to schannel.h to allow th...

@Learath2 I only see one name on the certificate on ddnet.tw

I see many

20:30

20:31

@deen any reason we aren't using a wildcard one btW?

wildcard support is new for let's encrypt and needs programmatic support at the dns hoster to change records

ye it not good rn

20:34

i tried it

you can also do the dns challenge iirc

20:34

I have it running quite smoothly for learath2.info

@Learath2 isn't that exactly what I said

ooh, I never updated learath2.info

20:35

I had it running on some other project

20:36

@heinrich5991 well you can set a dns record on any hoster

20:36

you just can't have it automatic

yea well

20:36

non-automatic ssl certificates are a bad idea

we could automate it if we hosted our own dns, we have enough servers for it

20:37

or we could use a dns hoster with support for an auto challange

20:37

challenge*

yes, see above

anyways, beside the point, I think the issue here is the libcurl bug

yup

20:38

update libcurl and fix it?

but I can't prove it, b/c it should be happening to everyone

@Learath2 we have version 7.65, and the fix seems to be in that version

yes, somehow on those two peoples computers curl ends up older maybe

hm perhaps

20:42

maybe in windows directory or somewhere

20:42

do you know what takes precedence for ddls?

20:43

dlls*

I think the one next to the exe has the highest

20:44

but it might be the cwd aswell

Learath2

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1826 Print the linked libcurl version

Compilepls

20:51

Learath2

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1825 Add debugging for certificates

>If a DLL with the same module name is already loaded in memory, the system checks only for redirection and a manifest before resolving to the loaded DLL, no matter which directory it is in. The system does not search for the DLL.

20:51

wat

wait what?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dlls/dynamic-link-library-search-order

Dynamic-Link Library Search Order - Windows applications

so if an old dll is loaded, it just uses it if the module name matches?

I'm not entirely sure about the wording

20:52

that sounds very broken if it were true

well we'll see as soon as appveyor compiles

perhaps they mean "if already loaded by the same program"

hopefully

which windows version were these people on?

@ano is on windows 7, idk about the other guy

20:56

but If you were thinking some windows xp shenanigans I did so aswell

yes

20:56

I can imagine win xp older then sp3 not supporting SNI

indeed

if anyone even uses xp sp2 nowadays that is

20:58

@ano seems to actually have gone offline, I guess we'll need to wait to know what it links to

windows xp sp3 still doesn't support sni apparently(?)

No, he is still here \o/

20:59

No, he is leaving rn /o\

21:00

@heinrich5991 do you windows?

no

watching msvc is like watching a cripple old man trying to build a house by hand

21:03

what an absolutely useless day, spent a quarter day trying to link json-builder, another quarter struggling with cmake, and another quarter with this stupid libcurl bug and not even getting an answer

21:04

I guess the first two quarters combine to a half of struggling with cmake

wanna end it with struggling to finish a ddnet map?

I only have a laptop

21:04

no mouse no keyboard

21:04

well a shitty keyboard

easy

21:05

trackpad

and on mac ddnet runs like shit, turns my computer to a toaster owen

21:05

oven*

y have macbook?

and even then it runs at like 10fps

21:05

@archimede67 I did ios development for like 6-8 months

ahh kk

then my thinkpad died

21:05

well the battery

21:06

then I stuck with this b/c it'd be a waste to get a new one when I have a working laptop

yeah

maybe I should hire a guy off of upwork to link the json library

you are rly struggling xd

21:09

alright time for me xd have a good night struggling with this xd

jeez do you have a used macbook air from 2012 @Learath2 ?

21:57

even my old macbook doent turn hot while playing tw