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Between 2019-05-03 00:00:00Z and 2019-05-04 00:00:00Z
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@Oxto(GP) Mec viens pv !
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@Learath2 double jump is weird, it makes the foot transparent
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transparent? wtf πŸ˜›
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I'll take a look, probably something with vector multiplication messing it up
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@Learath2
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@fokkonaut you sure that's not how it's suppoed to be? πŸ˜›
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lol yes
18:28
you can literally look through the foot
18:28
just compare it to 12.3.1
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@fokkonaut well that's what's intended actually
18:29
the code is very clear
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I'll take a look at what I changed, it is always possible I made a mistake while refactoring that made the alpha even less than usual that made you notice it
18:31
this is 12.3.1 and all other tw clients xd
18:31
this is how its supposed to be
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i think what your code does, is also apply alpha to the black shadow
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but not sure, since i dont know how that all works xd
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that definitely looks like i apply way too much alpha
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there shouldnt be any alpha
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i mean
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you shouldnt see the tee
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under the foot
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oh I see, the colorscale was never meant to be applied to the alpha
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I guess thats a refactoring mistake by greyfox
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that went unnoticed because it only made ghosts feet more transparent when the
18:36
they double jumped
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13807ed Don't apply colorscale to alpha - Learath2
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@fokkonaut looks good to me now, but can you take a look aswell?
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I will
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@fokkonaut btw did you figure out your file iterator stuff?
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not yet
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I have an hour or so free while the soup boils πŸ˜›
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feet should be fixed
18:41
okay, should we discuss it just here?
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yeah sure
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okay
18:42
I have absoluetely no clue, how that storage stuff works in teeworlds
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dumbass (edited)
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so, i need a loop, that goes through every file in a specific folder, set by a config var
18:43
heinrich told me to use this callback method, which i can find in the editor for example (used for the entities picker)
18:43
But I couldnt get anything owkring
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what do you need this for fokkonaut
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does it matter xd
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Are you using storage or are you going to use the fs functions and resolve the paths yourself?
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i.e. where are you doing this? πŸ˜›
18:44
CGameContext::OnInit()
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he is using it for another stuff (botfiles)
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sure, serverside xD
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okay you should have access to storage at that point
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didn't you make bots for chillerdragons server
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i never made bots,
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?*
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oh
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you mean those dummies?`
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why are in ddnet jao bots?
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ban them all
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@Deleted User please be quiet
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ban fokkonaut
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the idea with a callback is you create a function that does what you want with the files, it's called the callback function
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then you ask storage to "call back" that function for every file in a directory
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@fokkonaut Memory Empty! (edited)
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void ListDirectory(int Type, const char *pPath, FS_LISTDIR_CALLBACK pfnCallback, void *pUser) is the function you need to use
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did you find out what a memory leak is fokkonaut
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and typedef int (*FS_LISTDIR_CALLBACK)(const char *name, int is_dir, int dir_type, void *user); is the signature your callback function needs to have
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(strip i
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t)
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oof xd
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@fokkonaut if u tell us what u want to do we might find a better aproach
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hi ryozuki
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i want to go through all files, check a line in it, and based on this line change another line
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for all files in that directory
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(the lines will have numbers)
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hi @Ryozuki
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is this even tw related?
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it is
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he said he is doing it in CGameContext, unless he wrote another game with our shitty engine, it probably is teeworlds πŸ˜›
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what do you store in the files
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numbers
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are you training a neural network?
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i dont even know what that is at this point
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maybe it's better suited for a db
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meh, it's a pretty fun exercise to train a neural network to do gores (mine never got too good)
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anyways, yeah a text file isn't the most pleasant thing to manipulate
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the editing is "done" already, just need that file iterator
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gores bot πŸ‘€
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@qshar look out
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can i post my gores bot here?
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if i specify a file with a command it all works, just need to do it for every file
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@fokkonaut use c++11 and c++17 filesystem, learath will love u
18:53
it probs has what u want
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better use a db
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i just got another idea in my head, which doesnt require this iterator. i will try this first, if it doesnt work ask here again
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@jao you are annoying
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@fokkonaut I just told you how to use the listdirectory function, did you even listen? πŸ˜›
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i did, but i dont really understand it xd
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which part didn't you understand?
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saying you didn't understand it isn't really enough...
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i just dont get it. xd
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maybe im just stupid, but i still dont understand how to use it correctly
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You call ListDirectory, ListDirectory calls the function you tell it to call for each file in the directory
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it's not rocket science, it's just computer science
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@fokkonaut did u ever use js
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js does that a lot
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too much actually
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nope
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I can't even imagine someone using js and not knowing how callbacks work
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and lambda functions, I spent a couple months doing react native and afterwards I couldn't think without lambda functions
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@fokkonaut go learn about promises, futures and async programming, its hell first but its nice to know
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he will try to read the files async
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I'd suggest you learn some programming in general first, trying to learn from teeworlds is a bad idea as teeworlds isn't the cleanest πŸ™‚
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I've been waiting for 30 minutes for the soup to boil
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turns out the wind blew out the flame
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u got shit fire or smth
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i dont have flame :D induction best
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u have a boost button and it bols in 1 min
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boils*
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what soup are you making
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whateverthefuckvegetablesihaveleftathome soup
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italian soup
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r u on italy or turkey
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chicken stock, small vegetables and some lentils were what I had left so that's it
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italy
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are you in italy again
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im here setting up a irc sv for fun
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3 hours at this
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my first 4 hosters were blocking the irc port completely
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you couldn't even request it to be unblocked
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what kind of hoster? xD
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i can open any port i want
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shitty vps hosters
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@Learath2 compiler says undefined "ListdirCallback", but i cant find where i have to define it
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i've done it just as heinrich did
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You are trying to code by copy paste instead of trying to understand again
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did you define ListdirCallback?
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I've created the static int function for it
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"compiler says undefined"
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show me
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I think he didnt
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static int ListdirCallback(const char *pName, int IsDir, int StorageType, void *pUser) { CGameContext *pSelf = (CGameContext *)pUser; }
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at the end it doesn't matter what we think, it only matters what the compiler thinks πŸ˜›
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Show me your call to ListDirectory
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Storage()->ListDirectory(IStorage::TYPE_ALL, g_Config.m_SvPath, ListdirCallback, this);
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okay, your static function is not inside a class
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so you need to define it before you refer to it
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lol
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or you need to make it a static member of the class CGameContext
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in editor.cpp they didnt do it aswell
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as you can see they put the function above the call to listdir in editor.cpp
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ooooooooooooooo
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xD omg
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i will make it a member
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either should work
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works, thanks
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@Learath2 the code inside of that callback function is not getting called, why?
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possibly because there are no files in the directory
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ah, true
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as I said, storage resolves paths differently
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(doesn't use absolute paths) iirc
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works
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:21:21Z
yo @Ryozuki wanna know how to use multiple files for ur next python project?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:21:47Z
import os os.system("python otherfile.py") troll
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oh men im actually doing that and it feels so bad .-.
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did't get what you are talking about but
20:24
banhammer πŸ€–
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:24:14Z
no u
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:24:31Z
wait u didnt get the python snippet? xd
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it uses a shell call to excute one python script from another one
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its the worst
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chillerdragon try import
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why u do that
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:25:11Z
but i am using it my project -.-
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import keeps python version
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idk how to build pip3.7 from source
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so i cant use dependencys
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port ur other file to the other python version
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:26:02Z
i cant im too nobo
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i rather kill my code than fix my system xd
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:26:32Z
ya sad
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how did you build python 3.7 without pip
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:26:50Z
with cmake
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no
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with make
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are you sure it’s not installed
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:27:10Z
yes
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its fokin debian8
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:27:45Z
im not going to use some fishy community repos to install it with apt
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install libs yourself then instead of with pip xd
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:28:07Z
hmm
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tee_thinking
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idk how xd
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:28:37Z
os.system best xd
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:33:10Z
no
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he is just so ragy i thought he loves it
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yo @Deleted User why do i get ddos all day? -.-
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i though you both reached brain lvl ∞
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:34:21Z
i had to whitelist mi ip and drop all other stuff to do shit xd
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dont ask me my boy
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:34:37Z
ur the famous ddos master
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the good old tw times
20:34
long time ago
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:35:00Z
^
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ur still here rn
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im out of tw, but i read sometimes the funny questions of fokkonaut
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:35:21Z
xd
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2019-05-03 20:35:40Z
test
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:35:42Z
fokko much wow dev
20:35
better than u nobo
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2019-05-03 20:35:55Z
color test
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i dont support ddnet
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:36:06Z
what?
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btw fokkonauts bw ddnet client support was so shitty
20:36
xd
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:36:14Z
guys vali doesnt support ddnet
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2019-05-03 20:36:23Z
nothing new
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:36:26Z
xxD
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I supported you chillydragon
20:36
100€ on ur pp link
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:37:02Z
true good old times
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when i was living from ddos money
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btw if i support you, then i support ddnet
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:37:33Z
capi best
no 1
banhammer 1
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so you stopped supporting me cuz i support ddnet?
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i disagree with a lot of stuff ddnet does xd
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i stopped supporting you, because you traited me
20:38
with another lover
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😭
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:38:25Z
dafuk
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who?
20:38
im single
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@fokkogay
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:38:35Z
oh tru
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rip
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you removed my admin on your server, only because fokko raged about it, that i have more permissions than him xD (edited)
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:39:12Z
wait
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no i didnt
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fuck
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he was mad on me
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:39:30Z
i publicly admittet i gave vali admin xd
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ur still admin btw
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and fokko isnt
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thats why fokko rq and build his own srv xd
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lol
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its only copy pasta creme or complete own coded?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:41:05Z
mix
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i made him a better programmer than my self
20:41
much wow teacher skills xd
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eh, sure NO! ListDirectory
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you thought fokko?
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I only say ListDirectory
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:42:11Z
ya
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im proud of mi padawan
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wow teacher? World of Warcraft
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I hope not stuff like os.system thing
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:42:41Z
xd
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can you teach me wow too?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:42:53Z
nono
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fokko things python is maleware
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thinks*
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win10 is maleware...
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:43:10Z
tru
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fokko is malware 😑
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:43:19Z
u
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@jao = windefender
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:43:30Z
xd
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roast
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much wow ddnet dev topics
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hi developers
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xd
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stop using the word wow, we arnt in wow section
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:44:06Z
feelsbadman
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i can flip it an switch to mom xd
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:49:42Z
i dont need pointers to fuck things up poggers
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chiller do you need help at c++?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:51:19Z
i need help fix my brain
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I can support ur mod O_O
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:51:37Z
yes pls donate
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xd
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full time ddnet++ devs need money to surivve
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what about to do ddnet--
20:52
ddnet without ddnet features
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:52:43Z
tee_thinking
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isnt that ddnet alread?
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hehe
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sounds like a job for fokko
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hahaha
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where is he when you need him
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:56:14Z
busy implementiing textfile based acc sys
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but why file based?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:58:10Z
i tried...
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tried what
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 20:59:15Z
to convince him of sqlite3 :3
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why was ha against it
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:00:03Z
its fokko
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well i cant complain im even worse xd
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it’s your fault you thought him
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:02:41Z
ikr
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its big bois time now to see limitations of filebased and grow on his own πŸ˜ƒ
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i think there is no limitation
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same for sql too
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had both long time ago
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I never saw problems of both sides
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so idc πŸ˜„
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:07:25Z
uhm files are slower and the dont scale too good
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you havent 1million files
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:07:41Z
also like rankings are much harder to implement
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slower lookups
21:08
let’s hope fokkonaut knows what he’s doing
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:08:18Z
he does^
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onbgy also uses files
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and he is c guru
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on crack
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good justification
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nobys bot detection shit should run on sql, thats right, but for a normal noby fokkonaut account system its good enough to use file database (edited)
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:11:55Z
wat? xd
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why do you need sql for a bot detection
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idk what happen if you have 1tb file
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sql for bot detection?
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for what? the parameters?
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i doubt there are that many, i doubt they are tweaked often, and i doubt they are related at all, sounds like a bad application for a db
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if he really have everything on the game server, then the disk space will die
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I don’t think it’s that complex
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yeah but what does he have to store?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:22:21Z
sqlite3 doesnr save diskspace either
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and if he would have a extra storage server to transfer the file or files then have fun too πŸ˜„
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yeah if he had a lot of data it might help to keep it off-site
21:22
but I think he has like 25 parameters at most
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half of the bot detection is checking client id
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wow
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:23:26Z
lol not true
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onbgy does a lot
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who implemented ddnet anti bot?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:23:36Z
send graphs!
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dnet antibot xd
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what antibot?
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ddnet doesn't have any anti-bot features
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old client ids ban
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:24:01Z
that was mi
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smth like that
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except for the client id thing yeah
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@jao ban @ChillerDragon (edited)
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:24:16Z
bam > cmake
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i wrote ban
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:24:27Z
stap edit in #developer
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irc sees it
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the idea we had was to use the teehistorian data and employ a statistical model to detect botted ranks
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@ChillerDragon what happen if i do bam chillerdragon_release
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which never happened because everyone is really busy
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:25:07Z
chillerbot_release *
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i want to release you! (edited)
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nothing good
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:25:31Z
im only debug
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btw who has access to the teehistorian? (edited)
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people with access to the servers have access to the weeks data
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:26:45Z
yo jao discord bot pro how do i ping people?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:27:03Z
roles
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the entire thing me deen and heinrich keeps backups of
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:27:14Z
@mod
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<@&roleid>
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I think
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it's kinda getting ridiculous at this point, I should probably start compressing it
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:28:44Z
uhm can i ping a role here to see it in irc? xd
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@Learath2 lemme backup for you
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:29:07Z
do i even see it in irc?
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I have an entire terabyte of teehistorian data πŸ˜›
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chilerdragon dude what do u need
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:29:21Z
ping @Moderator
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i dont care, i want it
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:29:23Z
woops
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didnt ment to
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:29:32Z
sorri
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I could have told u the id
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@Deleted User yeaaah, no
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why not? it are only teehistorian
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:29:53Z
sorri gwnedal
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I mean it's just movement data, but still
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"gwnedal"
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it are only trashfiles
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:30:02Z
woopsie
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no respect
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you can give me
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why do you even need it chiller
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As if i were moderator anyway
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:30:15Z
i want to ping mods
21:30
on my discord
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for what reason
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:30:35Z
to call them to kick players
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why do you need to ping here then
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:30:49Z
i want to understan dhow it works i didnt ment to ping tho
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I told you it’s <@&roleid>
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:30:53Z
was an accident
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@Learath2 ye good for me and for ddnet, im helping to make Bot detection etc
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:30:59Z
where do i get roleid?
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Inb4 @Deleted User uses a convolutional neural network to learn how to play ddnet so he can bot on every map
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Jao be like GWsocksAngeryBob GWsocksAngeryBob GWsocksAngeryBob
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or with a bot
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psss
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its secret
21:31
but we could really try πŸ˜„
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@Deleted User I can give you a couple files if you want to try working on bot detection
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or right click then copy ID
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you can’t right click a role
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you can
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also ddnet is too hard for neural networks, gores is more doable
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how do you want to give me 1tb? (edited)
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since when
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:32:38Z
ah worls thans jao
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stap edit vali
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hm? whyß
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I told you I can't give you the entire thing, even if I wanted to, I don't think I have that kinda bandwidth πŸ˜›
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ok that’s new
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it isnt new
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i always saw it there xd (edited)
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ddnet requires cooperation, getting two neural networks to learn to cooperate can't be too too easy
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for solo maps possible πŸ˜„
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yeah, that's why I said gores
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ping
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i think it possible too with 2 tees
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gores for neural networks? interesting
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:34:25Z
nothing new
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ye
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:34:34Z
there were bunch of streams with gores neural nets
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"were" 😦
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I tried gores with a genetic algorithm once, it got really good at the first part of aip_gores
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where are they now?
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who streamed itß
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then it just refused to change directions at the first part that started going left
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@Learath2 how many gen? xd
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I don't remember how long I kept it running
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It was 100> gens though
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xd
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it always needs a lot
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they just stopped getting better around gen 60
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they just never made that turn
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strange
21:37
you gave them the hook and the movements i guess?
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if so, in theory they should be able to do everything
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yeah, I might've needed to work more on the fitness function
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they just got better and better at going right, and I guess that direction change was not rewarding enough
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ah yeah maybe
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maybe i'll give it another go one of these days
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could be cool ^^
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btw my bot works great, its rank 1 in ddnet ( Starkiller)
21:47
best proof of neural network bot
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btw what happened with Starkiller? I looked on ddnet page and he finished last map one month ago
21:50
he got ban?
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2019-05-03 21:50:57Z
ChillerDragon: u made fokko a better programmer? he is always asking things here before doing own research
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true
21:52
ryo why do you write on irc?
21:52
you new memequeen on quakenet?
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I always ask ryo before doing own research
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:54:44Z
everyone asks ryo before reseearcg
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its a meme
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who does ryo ask?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:55:18Z
duckduckgo
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ryo big pro
21:56
and probably the youngest here after fokko
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Ecosia
21:56
How old is he ?
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:56:50Z
secret
21:56
im not leakin data here
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13
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For real ?
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ye
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Waw
21:57
Such a genius
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:57:28Z
..trusting vali xd
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trusting chillerdragon...
21:57
i got the information from you
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:57:49Z
wait wat
21:57
fakenews
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you spread it, like your bot
21:58
so be quit!
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:58:13Z
ouch burn
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Oof
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:58:21Z
πŸ€–
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:59:12Z
GWqlabsFeelsFunnyMan 1
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much wow server panel
21:59
gud design xd
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 21:59:35Z
yy onbgy down
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you got something to fix mate
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ChillerDragon 2019-05-03 22:00:40Z
ya ima fix my sleep
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good night bois
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gn8, dream from me, where can i find the panel?
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try his tw servers ip
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wtf btc running?
22:05
Bitcoins?
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2019-05-03 22:06:27Z
archimede67 im 18 lol
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i write on irc cuz stallman said using discord is bad
22:06
all pray stallman
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Omg stop using sacred rose for ur profile picture @jao
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don't tell absoliwt
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[quakenet] Ryozuki BOT 2019-05-03 23:00:15Z
wew a net split
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"You must join a team and play with somebody or else you can't play"
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lol
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