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Between 2019-04-24 00:00:00Z and 2019-04-25 00:00:00Z

Anyone here having experience with lots of WeChat people accessing their website? https://hookrace.net/time.gif seems to be quite popular there right now, and I don't think it's a DoS attack.

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@deen redirect them to ddnet.tw feelsgoodman

feelsgoodman

deen? How is your blog related to WeChat?

10:58

Are people posting your gif there all over the place?

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #1669 numplayers in serverbrowser

by wechat u mean weechat?

@developer

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12:08

cant see player lol

12:08

only on this server. i tested other servers and doesnt affect there

12:09

//edit its because he is in solo.

12:09

fix pls

client version server version thanks

12:10

@J$ON

tee_thinking

@fokkonaut on all servers if someone is in solo. im on 12.2

server version

i asked the guy tho and he said im invisible too

12:13

what srv version

12:13

ddnet

12:13

ddnet ger

server version

12:13

xd

12:13

go in browser and check

never heard of that lol

12:13

0.6.4

XD

or smth

WTF

idk LOL

0.6.4, x.x.x.

12.2

ah

v0.6.4, 12.2

/info

@J$ON whats ur alpha setting

12:33

well if u are speccing him

12:33

its fixed in next release

12:33

probably

12:33

if u have alpha 0 u wont see him

12:33

put it in the middle

what alpha

12:42

ah it was on 0

12:42

i only wanna see him if i pause

12:42

or spec

@ChillerDragon dunno, I'm just seeing lots of traffic from WeChat's included browser

What would they be looking for?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1670 Fix #1668 and remove some code

Also removed the code in #1620 related to the ddnetcharacter freeze flags that will no longer be used.

@Ryozuki also thought about weechat but wechat seems to be a thing as well

14:51

@deen so you probably suspect the same like i do? Do you know that is exectly your gif? Bro your fame!

Just the gif

its ur gif => ur fame

15:25

you have to add ads xd

bro

15:43

why the fuck

15:43

do i see all particles if someone killed

15:43

i am in a team

15:43

others in t0

There are some bugs regarding teams should be fixed soon tm @J$ON

ok

just dont use teams its not the good social way anways

hav u showothers enabled

no

cant reproduce it

15:56

if ur using botclient we cant fix it eh

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1670 Fix #1668 and remove some code

15:57

[ddnet:master] 4 new commits

2f35c64 Initialize array and fix warning - trml 1db0d2f Don't use freeze and deepfreeze flags for prediction yet - trml 0b5f387 Remove unneded check - trml 2415e72 Merge pull request #1670 from trml/pr_prediction_code_fixes - def-

15:57

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #1668 New warning in gameworld.cpp

16:01

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

6cf8999 Restore old FindEntities behaviour, make it usable to count entities - def-

16:07

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #1671 Prediction valgrind complaints

``` ==19973== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s) ==19973== at 0x5D8DC2B: sqrtf (in /usr/lib/libm-2.29.so) ==19973== by 0x21F4DE: vector2_base<float> normalize<float>(vector2_base<float> const&) (vmath.h:71) ==19973== by 0x21B99A: CCharacterCore::Tick(bool) (gamecore.cpp:171) ==19973== by 0x3296C7: CGameClient::DetectStrongHook() (gameclient.cpp:2111) ==19973== by 0x32823B: CGameClient::UpdatePrediction() (gameclient.cpp:1951) ==19973== by 0x324...

16:08

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #1672 CMake warnings about opengl and x11

Every time I rerun cmake: ``` CMake Warning (dev) at /usr/share/cmake-3.14/Modules/FindOpenGL.cmake:275 (message): Policy CMP0072 is not set: FindOpenGL prefers GLVND by default when available. Run "cmake --help-policy CMP0072" for policy details. Use the cmake_policy command to set the policy and suppress this warning. FindOpenGL found both a legacy GL library: OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY: /usr/lib/libGL.so and GLVND libraries for OpenGL and GLX: OPENGL_opengl_LI...

Hey, I have a problem with my serverside dummies. This is the order to get to my problem: 1. connect to the server 2. connect some server dummies 3. connect client dummy (the one you can control, from ddnet client) 4. disconnect server dummies 5. disconnect client dummy 6. connect client dummy 7. connect server dummies -> one of them needs to have the ID that the client dummy had before RESULT: the dummy is stuck as long as the tee with the same id as the dummy before is connected. (only dummy) does anyone know why, or what could go wrong or how i can fix it? maybe some variables wrong set on dummydisconnect?

rip irc

16:16

oh that is the bug ddnet++ has as well huh? So the server dummy gets the name and skin etc of your dummy but u loose control over your own dummy.

No xD

no?

no

oke

16:16

xd

There are man bugs in ddnet++

16:17

Many of them are fixed im BD

mimimi

u

but ddnet client dummy is bit buggy ya

now stop spam i want relevant people to read my message

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After thinking about it a while I don't think time score is a gameinfo flag

16:21

but rather a playerflag

relevant people

16:25

lol

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

b6d2ed2 another one - def-

@Learath2 yes

noby will cry if you add a playerflag

Why

couldn’t identify ath through playerflags anymore

just send additional packets

17:05

and noby can check for them and see its latest ddnet

then ath can send them too?

yes

17:06

ath could alsop not use these playerflags to be sneaky

17:06

but they dont

they need the playerflag for a feature

they could user other stuff for the feature too

17:09

nvm#was stupid

which would be similar trackable

they cant

17:09

ya rip onby maybe he has to add a real bot protection then hehe

xD

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we could use a DDNetPlayerFlags netobj

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1653 Use the DDNet Network Character

17:47

[ddnet:master] 7 new commits

eecdfd2 fix hook and colision on super - Ryozuki 6bfdad9 fix super and solo - Ryozuki 7d4fdb3 update the core server-side - Ryozuki d6cc94f fix hook col a bit - Ryozuki 42a5d7a fix conflicts - Ryozuki 502ebc5 fix all conflicts - Ryozuki a1a581e Merge pull request #1653 from Ryozuki/pr_use_ddnetnetchar - def-

17:49

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

4f99623 Version 12.3 - def-

:O

17:51

hope nothing breaks

wait, you didn't test it?

i did

goo

17:52

d

but u know testing it only urself idk if thats testing at all

17:52

xD

17:52

and there is also new pred code

well, for the pred code we had a beta test of sorts

well mine shouldnt break anything at worst maybe someon find a bug on test server using super

17:53

but i dont think so

For whom it may concern: https://vscodium.com/ -- Free/Libre Open Source Software Binaries of VSCode

VSCodium - The advanced editor

Free/Libre Open Source Software Binaries of VSCode

if i want an editor i use vim if i want an ide i use clion :P

17:55

but well vscode is good

gr8 ryozuki is now a vim extremist

e.e

17:55

well u can use vim on most editors using a vim plugin

17:55

anyway

17:55

but its not true vim

people who are proficient with vim are very impressive

yea

17:56

i want to master it too

if you ever watched geohot code on stream it looks like magic half the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_af_qes-34 i found this funny but i dont think that the guy got lot of vim skillz

RPI UPE - Vim vs. Emacs Showdown [2018/04/09]

mostly editing speed doesn't matter anyway, you're supposed to think about code and not just write it down

feelsbadman

17:58

but its cool anyway

yeah, it's like a performance though

17:58

exactly, it looks cool

whoever manages skins rn should add https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=17&p=67818

you have a skin db account yourself mate

xd

18:03

err i forgot pasword xd

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

6034d37 Version 12.3 - def-

@jao write changelog ninja

ninja

[11:59 AM] jao: noby will cry if you add a playerflag yeah pls no

why

18:05

i think we need to add a player flag

so many servers now rely on "playerflags >= 32" to decide if it a cheat client

for paused

18:05

troll

oh

18:05

if its only for paused then i guess it wont matter

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since /pause doesnt work on those servers

@Ryozuki you write

ill do in 20 mins

while I'm all for messing with bot detection, I don't think we should add playerflags

18:08

an extended object for our own playerflags sounds like a better idea

why do u want to mess with bot detection

cuz its fun

18:09

to see other devs cry

18:10

troll

you are evil

yes

I don't like the idea of bot detection, it's something inherently impossible

just show other devs your code that’s enough to make them cry

danAmazing

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its impossible to do something perfectly so why try to do it atall

pepeH

so I find their efforts futile, and people who do futile things over and over tend to enjoy said thing

@Learath2 living ur life is futile too since u will end up dying

which implies they are masochists, which implies messing with them is good for them

ur masochist by living

18:11

troll

this ass-backwards logic is why ddnet has so many botters

I so want to leak a bot you can't detect just so you'd shut up about this...

maybe you can’t protect against all bots, but you can for certain ones

id do the same for ddnet i dont think u want to start this

18:12

also wow shit admin lol

lol

monkaS

See, I don't mind bots, I fully know there is no way to detect them

wtf

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GWqlabsSweats

1

cant detect every single bot ever so why try to detct any atall (edited)

the only thing we can do is keeping the leaderboards clean

nobot

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@noby well its true i think u never had to deal with a botter who writes his own bot and its not a skid

even sio's mess of a bot is undetectable

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> undetectable is a big word

18:14

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> you can try to detect it by behavior

sure you can do some heuristics, but introduce some noise and that goes down th drain

heinrich

18:15

u dont need a perfect bot to win a human

18:15

add some error

maybe deep neural nets can find something about it's behaviour to detect, but they'd be too much of a performance hit to run real time

yeah this is what people try to make the bots take longer to detect and it works but i dont think it would work forever

18:15

depends on what type of bot

I saw an edge bot that even had a setting for failed attempts

what

it fell off the edge a couple times before getting it

i dont think thats a setting xd

also i think edgehook has some pixel margin for error

it does

18:17

depending on where theyre hooking from

at that point you don’t have to care about the bot anymore

It was literally called cl_edge_fcount

lol srsly

18:17

what is the point

it looks like a person actually trying to edge

they could just not use the bot then xd

yea xd

then it would actually be a person trying to edge

when it's safe you up the fcount, when it counts you put it down to 0

18:18

your fancy heuristics all think it's a person

ive never tried to detect movement bots atall idk what fancy heuristics u talking about but the way the edgebots ive seen rely on fast a+d spam and prediction it seems like there are a couple ways u could at least try to detect it

18:19

like a human wont predict the same way everytime

18:19

but a bot theoretically will

Is anyone writing the changelog already? @jao @Ryozuki ?

i said in 20 mins but i f uwant u can do it

18:21

i just want to finish my anime

I'm not

pepeH

20 mins is good

18:21

didn't read anymore when the rage discussions started

lol

ddnet

[quakenet] <Learath2> don't get me wrong, I enjoy talking about it about as much as you enjoy reading it...

@deen does the pr from the prediction code only affects antiping on or its general prediction too?

all prediction

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

734cb72 add changelog for 12.3 - Ryozuki

18:56

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

89a0d91 ups - Ryozuki

nice an empty bullet points @Ryozuki

pure html

19:00

best html

19:01

poggers

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sorry, fixed

lol? the ddnet client renders html?

:o

19:02

it parses it probably

19:02

i didnt do that tho

19:02

xd

No, I do that manually

deen nobo

19:02

xd

and saved too early by accident

o.O i rendered something

19:09

first time i rendereed something in tw client xd

im proud of you @ChillerDragon

good job chiller

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #1673 Use scorelimit bar as weapon status

Im 'corneum suggested on dev channel:

afaik this field between the playerboard and spectator list is unused. maybe it could be used like this so you know what you have while in freeze. might also show jetpack superjump etc.

!waffenanzeige It is used for scorelimit but in race based gametypes this could make sense.

i started with @Im 'corneum suggestion

19:13

can i self assign me to this issue so nobody steals it -.-

19:13

im slow coder

19:14

ty

19:14

mi hero

I assigned you

19:14

I don't think you can self assign

maybe i ddint find the buttonbut seems like a permissions thing

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19:24

daily fng screenshot @noby

19:24

oh and btw before i spend too much timne on it any veto for the feature?

feelsamazingman

onby is testing his bots troll

troll

no

if you wanna make this really good then it should show stuff like endless superjump etc too

i would go with only weapons first

19:27

it can be added later

19:27

imo weapons look good i decided to remove ninja to not spam too much

why show hammer and pistol

superjump is notnging you switch to so maybe display it in another place

useless info

this is too see what weapon you have in freeze

19:28

thats the whole point

oh

19:28

I don't like it then xd

uff

useless

yea maybe render it ingame would be better

use keyboard

above the tee on switch

19:29

many people scroll

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19:41

@jao

19:41

xddd

xd

debian best

feelsamazingman

1

void linux best

mint best

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1674 Add poc for weapon status in scoreboard (#1673)

Just a sample draft... I don't think the scoreboard is a good place for this. I would prefer showing a weapon above the tee on change in freeze. Or as suggested by @fokkonaut put it to the ammo and health. I also didn't find a way yet to get the current weapon in freeze. Seems like only the server knows about it. Because current weapon is ninja and wanted weapon is not being set by scrolling. ![hammer](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/20344300/56690976-08a0b200-66df-11e9-934...

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1675 Remove unused vanilla code (closed #1658)

Removed vanilla code from gamecontext and gamecontroller. I didn't search for the code all over the place I just remember seing it there a lot. Also removed some empty lines. Wanted to do this for a long time :) thought there is an reason it is there. But we have git and the vanilla repo so I don't see any point keeping it there.

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #1676 ddnet folder is a mess

!ss+(2019-04-24+at+10 52 41) Especially on windows it is too much stuff there. Can we hide the dlls in a dependency folder? And the dilate, map_diff etc in a tools folder? And maybe even put both folders into data. For new users or people who redownload on updates and extend the folder with batch files this mess can get annoying and confusing.

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #1677 hud missing in vanilla

!ddnet12-3-rls <img width="1920" alt="ddnet12-3-git-master" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/20344300/56695253-deec8880-66e8-11e9-97bf-e9d55614dd40.png"> First screenshot is 12.3 from website and second is latest master self compiled. Only vanilla is affected as far as i can tell.

omg

21:32

so many useless issues

SpammerDragon xd

where did i do sytle mistakes @Ryozuki ? :c

praise ur vanilla code again

21:42

if u cant realize it urself

jeez tell me

u shouldnt tell shit about vanilla compat

21:43

troll

-.-

why even try no one wants that pr

21:43

xd

corneum fan

21:43

xd

21:44

nah i agree the scoreboard is a bad idea i just wanted to try it and see what problems i come across and open a discussion. Becuase it is indeed sometimes a problem for scrollers that they dont know what weapon they have in freeze

21:44

especially when the mate waits with the hammer you dont pull up the console and type +weaponX

@ChillerDragon Rendered

21:45

and its such a bad word

21:45

anyway

ikr

21:45

assumed that

did u notice the style error or not

21:45

xd

i knew it was a bad word

21:45

but not the sytle error

local vars are caps

21:46

R not r

idk style for local vars -.-

21:46

ah

unless u use a prefix

too much other styley latley for me

21:46

but im not sure if i ever floowed that convention

21:47

ah only the 1 letter vars are lower

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like float f

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x y z

@ChillerDragon can you debug the score hud thing?

im so confused

21:53

makes zer0 sense to me

21:54

might be my compiler????

21:54

im too tired rn i would only come to shitty conclusions but i will look into it

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