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Between 2019-04-06 00:00:00Z and 2019-04-07 00:00:00Z
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add 1 tele pls
08:04
@DanilBest
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@bit gameskin pls ?
09:35
that was unexpected 😢
09:36
bad part
09:37
@Kyosuke
09:38
thx
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 09:48:53Z
There should be a public logfile of rank deletions and their reasons. Why do i write this? I'm missing my definetly not cheated ranks on some Maps i finished multiple times often not even with a top time and nobody tells me a word about it and i think thats absolutely unfair. The Maps are so far i know: frustrainleave ctf5_solo mazepack BlackBear5 Golden_Evening Impetous I know that there were some cheated top ranks made with my name, but that was not me because i only made saves with that server bug which i already abused. I think its kinda unfair to delete years old ranks of people when someone fake them with cheated finishes
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no
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 09:49:56Z
lol botter stfu
09:50
troll
09:53
stfu botters
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how would you prove that it wasn’t you (edited)
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not
09:58
heinrich claimed they dont save IPs but have a way to see if its a faker or not
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they dont have
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ye how would they
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i know ways
09:59
jk
09:59
why would i know
09:59
i dont neeed that lol
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nah he couldn’t prove it because it was him
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konsti even faked others in top5
10:03
like freezestylers rank on i will be back. i think
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yea and he didn’t "only make saves"
10:03
just typical konsti manipulation again
10:05
fuck off
10:05
with ur lies
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well that backfired, konsti
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you don’t tell us about your cheated ranks, so we don’t tell you when we delete them
10:10
sounds fair
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just nameban
10:12
him
10:12
troll
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 10:12:42Z
no u
10:12
Its not fair to delete legit ranks still?XD
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thats right
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instead of cheating report it and get it fixed
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but u dont have legit ranks
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 10:13:57Z
wtf
10:14
it was already reported
10:14
and deen already fixed it
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ye you can avoid collateral damage by not cheating xd
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 10:14:19Z
and my ranks are years old on the maps
10:15
Thats nonsense
10:15
u can avoid being bombed by USA by not being born in Iraq
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stupid comparison
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 10:16:51Z
still unfair to secretly delete ranks especially when they are legit?XD
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not especially
10:17
only when they are legit
10:17
but they arent
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 10:18:07Z
wtf
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they are
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only the top rank not
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on frustrainleave i dont even had a top10 time??XD
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im fine with ur ranks being deleted
10:18
lets vote
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majority
10:18
troll
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 10:18:52Z
Ur nothing
10:20
@qshar tell them how u deal with deleted ranks and its announcement on KoG
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we deleted ranks only for using repeat-movement bot. For that we punish hard feelsamazingman
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gores sucks but at least @qshar handles bots better than the ddnet admins
10:46
feelsamazingman
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delet ranks of everyone, case solved
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 11:03:16Z
@qshar fake news u deleted my 0s rank on meew2 GWaobaPePeCry
11:03
But when u delete a bunch of ranks u announce that in discord
11:03
DDNet nobos delete it secretly
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Why should DDNet give u attention , telling everyone u are a shitty cheater ?
11:49
Do u tell DDNet when u cheat maps ?
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Why should they announce u that they delete ? lol
11:50
u fucking stupid mate
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when konsti realizes how stupid that was he will claim that it was all just a epic troll xddddddddd nou
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i think its because the people being exposed publicly for cheating are the ones who want to be seen as legitimate players
11:57
so its part of the punishment to tell everyone that theyre just botters
11:58
if its someone like @J$ON who owns being a botter then yeah no point giving them the attn
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 12:45:21Z
@Gwendal ?XD its just unfair u retard, randomly deleting LEGIT ranks and u never see that except ur accidently joining the map and remember u finished it
12:45
@Gwendal they deleted legit ranks of me not cheated ones
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ur not legit konsti
12:46
so its all fair
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collateral damage of the fact u are a cheater
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Tbh I agree with konsti
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ddnet admins shouldn't check every ranks u made because some are cheated and some aren't (edited)
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 12:57:39Z
Stop talking shit
12:58
They know which ones were cheated but deleted years old top300 ranks
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unpopular opinion: deleting legit ranks too isnt even a bad punishment for cheating (botting)\
f3 2
12:58
what konstis talking about isnt even really cheating so idk
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it is cheating lol
12:59
u dont even know what hes talking about
12:59
he abused a bug that allowed u to team in solo maps
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and hammerfly to the end
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 12:59:40Z
Its legit cheating
12:59
not my fault when devs are bad and i accidently can play in team on Solomaps
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ok ur right i didnt know that s what he meant xd
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yeah its cheating but no shouldnt be punished by deleting other ranks
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not our fault that we accidentally delete your "legit" ranks
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we don't delete legit ranks on purpose btw
13:00
not even as a punishment
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 13:01:02Z
wtf
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if someones botting
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then they get punished with a ban (edited)
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and botted ranks deleted
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(sometimes) xd
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but not legit ones..
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 13:01:48Z
@jao when there are ranks on ctf5_solo with 3minutes and rank 500 why delete them???XD
13:02
u deleted years old ranks
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by accident?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 13:02:25Z
By abuse
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humans make mistakes
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 13:02:37Z
Then take ur mistake back
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they already took your mistakes back
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 13:18:47Z
u
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Too bad you can't take your cheating mistake back on your own right ?
13:54
Also these are nobo maps
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You can do them in 5 minutes
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You see you got an apology from jao and he told you it was a mistake
13:54
Get over it and redo those
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Probably took you longer to write this shit than actually completing the maps again
13:55
Just my 2 cents
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him cheating is good, gets the cheats to get fixed
13:58
idk why you all complaining
13:58
he's literally wasting a lot of time
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to get his ranks deleted
13:58
so let him be
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@Rockus Well he could just report the bug instead of abusing it ?
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idc they have teehistorian
14:06
at least give them some work
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 14:10:41Z
@Ruh i reported a LOT of cheats on maps but nobody cares when i dont a: buse them
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also cheating is fun
14:11
i dont care about cheated ranks which are being deleted
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:11:12Z
why would we players need teehistorian in our folder anyway if there is no legit use for us?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 14:11:15Z
because its the process of cheating what makes fun
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:11:26Z
why is it exists for me
14:11
delete it already and make it private so only the higher ranked people can use it
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jeez
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you can use teehistorian on your own server
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:12:33Z
that doesnt mean it does smth when you start a server anyway
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ye it's opt-in
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:12:46Z
:v
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genius programming
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you banned me
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and you didn't ban cellegen
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jsut shows how rigged you are
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:13:54Z
i didnt want anything bad tbh
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you flamed me as well
14:14
you deserved to be banned as well
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:14:30Z
btw you spammed the #showroom with your insults and swearing to me and others
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so did you
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:14:39Z
when
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bro
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:14:54Z
i did one swearing compare to your countless swearings towards me
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still means you deserve a ban
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:15:08Z
kid
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danAmazing
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lol flaming again?
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@Cellegen | HU how is ur mmo doing
14:16
did u code in scratch
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:16:13Z
3 seasons are done in scripts
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:16:27Z
but i dont have time to finish it i guess xddd
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@jao he called me kid
14:16
ban him
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:17:24Z
@jao when can i start my testing objectives
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what are testing objectives
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:18:09Z
solo maps
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i guess
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oh ignoring
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ok
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whenever you want?
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:18:34Z
i better want to test two types
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nice
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 14:21:04Z
thonkery
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti help @Cellegen | HU complete his testing objective
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:21:41Z
yes
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 14:21:46Z
noujm
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Cellegen | HU 2019-04-06 14:21:49Z
:c
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is steam down?
16:38
can't log in right now
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@heinrich5991 ye offline
16:40
lately they had problems
16:41
Displays status of Steam client, Steam store, Steam community, Dota 2, TF2 and CSGO
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 17:39:26Z
conversation in tw these days
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u
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feelsbadman 🇯🇵 🥞
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u
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its a trap
feelsamazingman 1
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Катакан из Оксенфурта 2019-04-06 18:01:29Z
no, it's superman
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hey @ᶰ°Konͧsti
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 18:06:08Z
@plsplsplslol why waf i made the pic myself
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waf picture
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The topic is over, but I'd like to share my point of view about cheating. Imo the real cheating is an art. It requires some out-of-the-box thinking and a lot of time and effort. For example in KoG I'd make a reward for finding and succeeding the cheat on the maps. For example last time we gave @ᶰ°Konͧsti KingOfCheaters role for about 1 month for his map cheating. Of course we fix it afterwards and remove the cheated rank, but it is important to make a reward for it. It is a win-win situation.
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So, when someone will hacking your pc, you will give him reward ?
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yes for finding the bug
19:14
u dont have to make a reward
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what is the point of this qshar
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There are a diffrence between find bug, and exploit them 😃
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like he will stop cheating cause he had a role for one month ?
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he will cheat even more lol
19:22
Next time someone rob my house i will give him my TV on my own so he will leave and let me alive
19:22
danAmazing
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This is like white haps in hacking. For you it helps to find the map bugs, for him it makes it worth to find them and put effort in it
19:25
white hats*
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he could just tell the cheat
19:25
and dont waste someones time
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:26:35Z
I did tell u a lot
19:26
but u dont even understand them
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Or just dont care
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the reward will give effort to explore cheats. Besides it is better to know about bugs instead of not knowing them
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not everyone are willing to spend their time to search for cheats
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that doesn’t automatically male abusing them a good thing
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no need to make it look better than it is
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i find it funny that qshar treats konsti as a kid
19:29
giving him candy
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but there is no better reward than trying to get a rank under the radar and keeping it forever
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:31:09Z
?xd
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Konsti printed in #records = lol lets watch teehistorian
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i meant ranks that arent displayed in #records and dont get attention
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@Ryozuki I just don't see anything bad in finding cheats. I think many global companies do the same, it is called "white hats". It is a hard work and only very few players can find cheats.
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agree with qshar
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:36:57Z
Google pays u for finding hacks in their company
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feelsgoodman
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its hard wwork to build a bot((((
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:37:28Z
botters are bad
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konsti is no whitehat lol he is more of a black hat
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:37:39Z
GWragMonkaS
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paying for rank1 wasnt bad?
troll 2
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:37:45Z
Im absolutely white
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ah it was EPIC TROLL XDDD so its okay
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:38:21Z
ur
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he didnt got the money
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locked the cards
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danAmazing
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti rq
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how long until you drive directly to deens house and force him to give you rank1 at gunpoint?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:40:11Z
U
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Ure not funny botter
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you would go that far i bet
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bot bad, cheating without bot good (edited)
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botting without cheat
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feelsamazingman 3
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what about fraud without money
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@qshar white hats dont exploit the bugs they find..
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they wouldnt get any reward bounty if they abused it before tellign the company rofl (edited)
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:50:01Z
I find them too
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danAmazing
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cut the "freaking" snail this is a holy server😠
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ur on thin fucking ice
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idk what u talking about
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GWfroggerKrabsReee
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@snail well, when you know that someone cheated the map you can easily fix it. At least searching bug on a specific map is not very hard
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i get what u mean but saying ur rewarding him for actually abusing it is really dumb. and we did kind of do that by giving him tester back then
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but u cant just keep "rewarding" someone who constantly does shit on ur platform
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especially on old ranks that he clearly wanted to keep
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u should reward him for reporting bugs
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not for abusing them..
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its just really stupid
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no offense
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full offense
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I mean he cheated the rank, told us. We removed his rank, took a deep look in the map and fix it. It is a win-win
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and if you would punish for this - cheaters will never tell you about the cheat
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its like goign to a russian hacker and giving him thousands of dollars because he exploited some shit that allowed u to fix it afrerwards even tho he used it with malicious intention
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reward him for having good intentions, not bad ones
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he abuseed it
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he coudl tell u about it without abuse
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well he never tells us when he cheats ranks
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why should we reward him for that?
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he even lies about it
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"lol its legit"
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rewarding him for 100 cheated rank1s
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He never tells you because you punish for this instead of rewarding
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as i said we did kind of reward him with tester
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if u tell him that he will get rewarded for telling cheats, he will abuse all 1000 saves and finish with them. after he will tell u xd
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u dont just reward somebody for being malicious
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testing sucks tho
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like wtf
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zoozti is a big troll
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@Im 'corneum map race. i test np
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delete abused ranks
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but legit ones?
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delete konsti
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yos yltoox
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want a special role
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maybe admin
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i should reward u
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for telling us its possible to bot on our servers
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for being legit
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wtf
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i didnt even bot ur servers in 2019 xd
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well, at least for me it is better to detect cheats on the map. And it is really hard. I don't see anything bad here to give some small reward for finding it (not abusing, because the rank is deleted anyway). I see that some have the opposite opinion, but at least I like the system that we have
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:57:45Z
I lost my tester for faking deen not for constantly doing shit
troll 4
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even if im legit i will get punished xD
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:57:57Z
i started trolling around after i lost
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Tester
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it doesnt matter if its deleted lol
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I dint bot in 2019 and all i got is this lousy admin password
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its a waste of time for everyone
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and also just because he tells u 1 cheat to get his role doesnt mean he told u every cheat he ever did
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on kog
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if he wants to be the cheat map finder he can go and test maps
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he rly doesnt want dad
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:59:03Z
@snail wtf do u remember how often i asked ur for going around to fix some maps? After 3 maps fixing u rq
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@snail the role is only for 1 month. Cheat more - get more
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he dont needa test to see a cheat xd
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so he just needs to tell u once per month
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and rest can be kept secret
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he wants to see privately tested maps
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he is just a rat seeking attention cheating so he thinks other ppl will look at him and "oh thats cool much skillz"
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to get cheated ranks
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but all ppl see is a annoying rat
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or keeps his stock to keep his role
19:59
over time
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:59:38Z
@Im 'corneum i actually found 2 cuts on hc2
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still work?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 19:59:56Z
ofc not
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danAmazing
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the one cut i told themix already with jump in kill
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he said he fixed but ididnt watch it
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:00:13Z
It would only be possible with replay bot
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:00:19Z
so for u
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xDDDDDDDD
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wait
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idk what version u saw
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ryozoozki
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:00:53Z
I saw the latest version
20:01
also i didnt leak it Cuz im trustable at testing maps
f4 1
poggers 2
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GWtoshFeelsWowMan
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but in the version i sawit was possible to hammer one from freeze inthe hole so he will be in the mid. the other guy had to be very close edge and hold D and jump after bit time (edited)
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it worked ez without
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he saidfixed xD
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:02:02Z
It was just way harder they told me its impossible now
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but i did it and with replay bot ez af
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idk what he fixed then xD
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:02:33Z
He added more kills
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omg, @ᶰ°Konͧsti did you use bot????
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:02:38Z
no?XD
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:02:51Z
its just a first try cut far in map
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you felt down in my eyes!!!
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:03:00Z
and nobody could do it legit
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i could
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20:03
at least in the version i saw
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:03:13Z
so its only possible with replay bot i n legit run
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konsti botter
20:03
we got all needed
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now nameban
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he even botted on miencraft
20:03
and admitted it himself
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:03:29Z
I dont own any bot
20:03
we made a friendly server and he had to fcking bot
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:03:37Z
i didnt???????
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its his nature
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:03:44Z
wtf
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i botted in singleplayer lol
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:03:53Z
afk fishing is not botting its a farm
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usiung a macro
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such rat
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:04:06Z
I DIDNT
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I'd never think that you are a bot user @ᶰ°Konͧsti . Sad to hear
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on a friendly server u have to do such shit
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u said using something that does an action for u is botting
20:04
then u said thats what u did
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:04:16Z
I HAD A COIN IN MY KEYBOARD
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how is not that botting
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"accidentaly dropped coin on keyboard and went to shit"
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he said smth like that
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:04:42Z
Botting is a third party program
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11:05 AM] ᶰ°Konͧsti: a wooden construction is a bot [11:05 AM] ᶰ°Konͧsti: faggot
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11:05 AM] ᶰ°Konͧsti: because its doing an action [11:05 AM] ᶰ°Konͧsti: for u
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[11:05 AM] gdin: and the coin on ur keyboard [11:05 AM] gdin: isnt doing [11:05 AM] gdin: an action for u? [11:05 AM] gdin: maintaining a key pressed isnt an action? [11:05 AM] gdin: so ur basically admitting u were botting [11:05 AM] ᶰ°Konͧsti: my key accidently broke and was been pressed for ever
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botter
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its ridiculous
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bot is if a program does something automatically
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:05:40Z
Any kind of farm u can build in minecrap vanilla is legit
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not a coin
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in what case can you bot something by just holding a key tho
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:05:56Z
@Im 'corneum snail really think that
20:05
they banned me for it
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afk farming in mc doesnt require user input u were cheating
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no i told him not to ban directly
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:06:09Z
for a coin in my keyboard
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and he didnt just hold a key
20:06
he used sth that made it hold for him
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for nights
20:06
how is that legit
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f1? perhaps
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he was fishing 20 hours a day
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@Im 'corneum not tw
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we re talking abotu minecraft
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:06:33Z
And?
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oh
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:06:35Z
its legit
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@snail it isnt bot
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he said a wooden construction that does an action for u is a bot
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:06:50Z
u can make an afk kick serverside to avoid people fishing whole day
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:06:59Z
there is a Plugin for spigot
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then he says his coin isnt a bot even tho it holds right click for him?
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I HAD THAT ON
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u were evading it by pressing the button with a coin
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:07:28Z
@Ryozuki i were playing on an other server with spigot and it detected u as afk also when fishing
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u made me even program a shit plugin to disable fishing
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fcking cheate
20:07
u just waste ppl time
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so any physical help on my desk is a bot? like... the desk iteself since i could just put the board on my lap
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do u understand "doing an action fo ru"
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if u build a wooden construction that will click every second on ur mouse the whole night its kind of a bot
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:08:17Z
no
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i doesnt do anything every second
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lol a coin is a bot?
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ww
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well he said it
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:08:37Z
it just gives the same input the whole time
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and holding the same input isnt an action?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:08:55Z
U can keep hooking in tw also
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when afk
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is it a bot?
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minecraft is not tw
20:09
no becasue its possible vanilal
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syltoox richest tee
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u cant hold right click vanilla in minecraft
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:09:28Z
u cant in tw vanilla too
20:09
with vanilla client
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u can with the mainly accepted client
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:09:42Z
u cant keep hooking
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aka ddnet
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:10:18Z
DDNet has a lot of bots and Assistent tools
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:10:24Z
but a coin is botting?
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vanilla on ddrace is ddnet
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so ur argument is completely retarded
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our minecraft clients have no way of holding right click
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and im pretty sure no legit client do
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:11:12Z
Ur retarded when u think a coin is botting or cheating in any kind of way
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti next time u go to the supermarket pay in bots feelsamazingman
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u literally said it urself
20:11
but keep being a hypocrite
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all the other players do that in that game
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no its an assisting tool
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still kind of cheaty tho
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i.e that wouldnt be accepted at a lan
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its what all speedrunners do. they even tape 2 controlers together and everything
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speedrunners cheat the games essentially
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we are not talking about that
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their goal is the beauty of the performance
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there are also bugless runs
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to see how far a human can push the game
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a non-cheaty speedrun is way better to watch
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time trial
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i tried to bring a uncheatable version of a solomap to ddnet but it wasnt accepted
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fudgyking also made a ctf4 (?) TAS speedrun, that doesnt make him a botter
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:15:27Z
Fudgyking still use tas bot
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Its like replaybot advanced
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Record the replay in slowmotion
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the point is konsti nameban and thats it
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troll
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:17:01Z
f4
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#off-topic ? :)
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2019-04-06 20:17:10Z
no
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ChillerDragon 2019-04-06 20:49:53Z
best thing is shellshock live paper cheat
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If i had someone in ignore tee
20:54
Will it be show in this name or what ever ? Like with the friend list ?
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