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Between 2019-01-25 00:00:00Z and 2019-01-26 00:00:00Z

ddnet ger seems to work again lagg free for now atleast for me @archimede67 @ᶰ°Konͧsti

I didnt try :O

Nice

anyone knows how to get nade ?

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tw physics 101

explain me xd

you have to jump through, on the edge. you have to press d at the right time. and you have to be on the left wall

but its 2 tile wall

it works, wai tthere is a video#

16:04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmE_wcVVn_E

Teeworlds - Maximum Speed Rank 1

tf

16:07

thx @Im 'corneum

and again n9 with 14 minutes of trying gets a better r1 lmao

@Rockus JAJAJAJA

fuck you :C

heinrich5991: omg fix the physics and then fix the map into the new physics without changing gameplay!!!

LOL

Konsti: I use ddnet 9.7 cause new ht sucks

Theres so much you can improve in maximum speed map

17:09

Also lot of fails

that's not r1 @NeXus

well than its clickbait

what's a better client than ddnet's one?

M-client

M client is shit

v-bot

so when you do something that the tee you're playing with doesn't "understand" or wasn't ready for it

18:10

you are automatically dumb and retarted?

?_?

idk

18:11

i unfrozen then wanted to hf but like i unfrozen and was on top of him so logically I was able to drive

18:11

but no he wanted to

18:11

then he said "wtf you are dumb"

xd well a stupid ego as usual i guess

yea :/

@Brokecdx- ye vbot very gud

18:29

troll

oof ddos ?

19:44

wait no

19:44

idk

everytime i update ddnet client i regret it

20:24

fucking bugs and fps drops

i never hav problems

why

idk

20:25

linux master race

@Jesus Christ x2

@Jesus Christ hav u got opengl enabled

what is it

enable it

20:26

and try

20:26

have u got a integrated gpu

20:26

or dedicated

idk

20:26

but opengl didnt help

idk about fps drops

20:27

what bugs

20:27

have u found

20:27

¿

in this version nothing, but in recent there were a lot

if people only says "full of bugs new release blabla" dont expect ppl to fix them

20:27

cuz simplythere is now way for us to know what the bug is about (edited)

i also have noticeably lower fps in newer versions of ddnet and the dev didnt believe me either thonkery

thonkery

macos doesnt count onby

21:12

it only counts if the OS isnt the problem already xd

21:14

also i asked u to monitor things

21:14

so dont blame us

thats bs lol

21:27

u cant blame the user for having the wrong os

21:27

especially when an older version of ur client works just fine on the same computer

no os is wrong os (edited)

same here since the update after christmas i have slightly lower fps

xD so mad, bcs of joke, doesn't change the fact u can simply profile it and we will know the reason

21:35

fact is, with macos SDL always strange bugs

whos mad lol

21:42

he just responded

@Deleted User If I use a completely empty image as a quad and spam it a lot of times the fps still drops (means empty pixels get rendered) Wouldn't omitting rendering empty pixels on quads be a big performance improvement on maps with many quads?

@Ravie yes, there are alot of things to improve, generelly it's the question, why would somebody map empty quads? bad mapping or some reason behind it?

Not empty quads but when you use quads to design there is usually a lot of empty pixels around the image

u mean like, transparent pixels?

yeah

21:50

I don't know anything technical about rendering etc. but quads seem very poorly optimised

mhh, the main problem is, that texturing happens in the fragment shader and that is the stage where these pixels are already created

21:50

basically the renderer can't know there is no pixel before (edited)

21:51

and even if you would drop the pixel (discard) after u cehck if the transparency is 0(zero opacity) it would need to load the memory

well there are games with many more polygons than 100-200 quads that run fine on my pc, and aren't quads basically 2 triangles?

true yes

21:52

maybe these games use directx and your driver is poor with opengl?

21:52

common thing for older GPUs under windows

as I said I don't know much technicalities but I still think quads take much more of a toll on fps than they should

21:53

maybe it's not noticeable on most decent pc's idk

the most expensive thing is rasterazation -> fragment shader and that is the same for 2D as for 3D

21:54

even if 3D has more overheat bcs of depth checks etc

I don't know the difference between tiles and quads rendering but tile layers seem a lot more efficient (which is sad imo cause quads are much more versitile)

bcs tile rendering basically renders few houndred tiles with the same texture without swapping any buffer

21:57

if you want to draw 1000 quads with same texture it can be optimized

21:57

1000 quads with different textures.. not really

is it still the same texture if each quad is rotated/scaled or colored differently?

yes

for each quad layer you can use only 1 image so that's pretty much the same as a tile layer

21:59

well I'm not really complaining, just bringing this to your attention cause maybe something can be improved upon

just looked into the source

22:00

i'd say i tried optimizing it a bit for opengl3, but only if "the next" quad is the same

22:01

e.g. no rotation and same color

22:01

bcs i didn't wrote a shader handling a batched quad layer

so that would probably be good for spammed stars or clouds

i could probably easily add this

22:02

sadly only for opengl3.3

22:02

bcs it requires a shader

@Ravie u can always open an issue on github, then other devs might see it, maybe somebody has time and fun optimizing some things

it's really not that urgent, only noticeable on quad-heavy maps and on a pc as bad as mine

22:13

but maybe some fellow potato users would appreciate it

well any optimization is good, indepented of the hardware performance

finally turned 18 feelsgoodman

feelsgoodman

alles gut

23:09

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only english in #general this is your last warning @jao

thanks @jao

this is important enough to talk german

nothing is important enough to break the rules

happy birthday

troll

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