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ddnet seems to crash when i tabbed out for longer times. i have to kill it with task manager

If I often step out of the map editor (desktop) my mouse cursor disappears. Is this already fixed? (I think im on ver. 11.5)

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7d66c1d Mapper Awards 2018 - 12pm

what happened with the new sdl file? If i try to copy it to ath client, i dont have sound anymore xd. (edited)

yeah, we had to change something for sound in the code: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/d9d3ed783ee70cbd5afa05d1d09411f330b23b39

fix windows sound · ddnet/ddnet@d9d3ed7

I get a completely black screen on mac os :/

there's a recently closed issue about that, related to borderless

they should just starting fixing their mess. SDL has to be as simple as that you want borderless and it's borderless, if you don't care about DPI scaling, no DPI scaling, and not makros in our code that split code for the different OSs. the backend_sdl.cpp contains too much makros if you ask me

@deen and can I somehow change that? im noob developer xd

@Shyzo you download your client's source code, you add those 3 lines at the same exact place and you compile it, ath has the instructions for that part on github

eh ok. ill look into that and im going pro developer mode then °!°

22:48

btw, is antiping from ddnet and ath different? I notice differences. I notice differences in the client too though. so probably isnt an antiping thing. still wanna ask though^^

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ath sucks

no idea i don't user ath and i don't use antiping ^^

22:50

he only asks, because he wants to use DDNet and doesnt believe me that it runs just as smooth xD

use ddnet version 10

22:51

best of both worlds

ddnet 11 5-6k FPS best

not laggy like ddnet 11, not a shjtty cheat client like ath (edited)

22:51

11**8

ddnet 11 = perfect frame times no laggs, no tearing nothing

not for me

what kind of lags tho @noby more input delay or just spikes?

fps lag

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noticeably lower fps

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i dont remember exactly when but even deen confirmed that he noticed the difference

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in this discord

when ddnet was in debug mode

22:57

user experience is the most important thing so i'd like to sort that out

idk when

23:01

ive had this problem with every client after 10.6

23:01

and 11 just made it worse

just lower fps? no input delay or anything else?

Lower as in < 60? I seriously doubt that

23:04

but yeah, I did also note that my fps went down a couple hundred

noticeably lower fps

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this is not acceptable

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for an update

my went up 2k frames xd

ok

23:06

well then ill just keep using 10.6 if u dont believe me i dont care

i care

23:06

u on macos right?

yes

23:06

but i think deen is not

23:06

and he confirmd seeing the same problem

ok

23:07

i only remeber he said that when ddnet was build in debug mode

23:07

but u a dev

ive tried many versions and had similar issues with all

cant u just compile both and monitor

23:07

that would really help

that sounds like work lol

23:07

why not ask deen to do it first ..

@deen pls monitor if u have less fps in newer clients than ddnet 10.x.x

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that was when ddnet was in debug mode

ddnet must have been in debug mode ever since 10.7.1

23:10

lol

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exactly, the build system changed the default from Release to Debug and we didn'T notice

23:17

so that problem is now gone

@noby but u also tested 11.6.1?

not yet

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10.6 is fine

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why should i need to update

because we only keep developing the most current version

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we don't have the resources for an LTS

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so we should try to fix bugs instead of telling people to use some old version

true in general lol

would be nice if ddnet doesnt need downward compability for ever

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e.g. messages for being in solo per packet and stuff

23:22

would be nice if ddnet doesnt need downward compability for ever

@noby ideally you'd bisect it a bit to tell us which release had bad performance first, even better which commit

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my normal 10.6 client

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23:23

tried playing a lil with 11.6.1

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look fps is 2x lower+

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-.-

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and no its not cus entities

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i turn off entities in 10.6 and my fps goes even higher

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and no its not cus entities

23:24

i turn off entities in 10.6 and my fps goes even higher

wow thats a lot

rip predition man. 130 so high :(

[5:22 PM] Jupstar ✪: e.g. messages for being in solo per packet and stuff last time i checked there is no solo parts on fng thonkery

thonkery

xD

do u want my settings

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@noby also the old fps counter was broken

the fps on 11.6.1 wildly jumps between ~100 and ~250

it showed wrong stuff for me, so i stopped looking into it

if thats more accurate then

23:27

well its not much better is it?

@Deleted User made it more accurate, so you might have had the jumps before but the calculation averaged it out

maybe its just a placebo effect from seeing the fps counter going crazy but i doubt it

23:27

it really did feel laggier last time i tried playing with it

rip predition man. 130 so high :(

i live in usa and my server is in europe lol

23:28

the antiping actually helps me alot

the diff is basically that the older clients counted frames

23:29

and the newer uses frame times, and deen was the last who changed that

23:29

and the newer uses frame times, and deen was the last who changed that

23:29

but it's deffs more accurate

antiping is awesome. coming back to my question though °!° @deen check private message

antiping is the reason i use ddnet client

Ha, so comparing 10.6.1 with current version I see that 10.6 shows higher fps in counter but the fps graph looks exactly the same

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23:34

So patch in the new fps counter into the old version and see if it drops the same way @noby

i dont compile my own client

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i have another testing copy of ddnet that i did compile, i dont ever use it to play but i can try the fps thing later i guess

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