DDraceNetwork - general

Круфи 2018-11-13 04:58:40Z

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No u @Rockus

So if i start botting right now the only thing that i will be punished with is that my unfair ranks deleted but thats it?

and if they catch u enough times u might get temporary nameban @ezy

for 1 month

Don’t care @ezy they can’t catch u if you don't want it

07:39

If i use bot for years i might get a 3% chance to be lifebanned for 2 weeks tee_thinking

lifebanned for 2 weeks

07:39

lmao

robotos

07:40

noby ban them

@Wombat you forgot the part where we deleted his ranks made during those months where he was cheating, probably also including some legitimate ones since we can't tell which are which

DDNet is fcked up, he still have a lot of botted ranks and you delete finishes of people which use creative skips to finish maps faster

Really? I thought ranks are only deleted when the map was changed so that that shortcut became impossible. Thus it would be unfair for other players since they can't use the same shortcut anymore

how long have you been out of teeworlds xd

well he is right..

07:44

when we delete a "creative skip" using a glitch, we fix that glitch

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You even fixed shortcut on 6 years old Verification map which is insane hard Well maybe did N9mkOik bot it but i see no reason to delete crazy skips Especially not on Oldschool. It makes sense to fix startlineskips because a map with only 00:00:02 finishes will not be fun to play legit but spending hours with a lot people, dummies and second Clients to get some better times is a part of the game and not that boring teamforced 2player maps where you only have one way to pass, which come in the last time..

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remember when n9 found a creative non glitchy shortcut on verification9? that was deleted and fixed

08:09

oh

As i said xd

i didt read it xd

Ideally it depends on the mapper whether a shortcut should be fixed. If the mapper can't be reached anymore and the shortcut skips a large part of the map, I'd say fixing it is a good choice

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You dont even know who used those skips on old maps (and teehistorian didnt exist back then) Maybe it took them longer than a normal finish but everyone should have the same chances and ways to finish the map. A fix should only be done if the mapper actively wants it and apply a fix by himself because its still his map and not fixing it when he say nothing and make dumb fixes which also affect the gameplay of the map

No

-5 h of my life, rip verefication

A mapper made a map to be played, not to be skipped

Thats not even true

08:36

a lot mappers dont care and some mappers skip their own maps

Skips make Maps more fun

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08:37

Linear Maps are shit

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i remember jao "fixed" one map without deleting any ranks

08:38

im glad the fix wasnt made properly

some maps are just iconic for being skipped. Personally, i didn't do it a lot of times... but it was fun doing so, i agree on that @Knacker

check my run on i will be back. i did less than 10% of the real map. the map could actually be fixed and uploaded a second time because the run is so different

Still worse than Freezestyler thonkery

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If the maps was glitchy released, then they shouldnt fix the glitch, so everbody has the same Chance

Nuke all skips, maps should be played how the mapper intended

We should delete all maps so that there'd be no skips

(edited)

how is SkipIt supposed to be played? thonkery

he specifically said "how the mapper intended" GWfroggyAngryEyes

look at mappers teehistorian file to see how he finished. then add killtiles all around his route like i did on that video. everything else would be skips troll

what map @Jesus Christ

make me moderator and i can tell D:

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bring the cute ghoul & heartcore skips back pls

Bugs are bugs, they need to be fix

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11:49

If you want more skips just find more

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Then need to delete your ranks on executive rockus

heh. there is one more skip on hitode, and nobody figured it out... boo

12:04

but its so fucking hard that even n9mk0ik cant do

wat @Cellegen | HU

12:09

which one

12:10

i found all

what about a lot of deepfly cheats in older dummy maps then?

12:12

i personally dont care about my maps being cheated that way

These are not bugs imo, they don't ruin the gameplay (edited)

12:20

Just pro ways

deepfly is actually easy

Ikr, but in ez maps it's actually harder

lmao @Neben dont spread ur opinion about things you dont have any plan about ..

@Wombat ?

12:45

A lot of maps have still have skips, just because it doesn't ruin the gameplay

12:46

Look Flux, just after it got released ppl find out about a laser and rocket cheat, but they kept it as it is

deepfly ruin gameplay if its use to skip

Dummy maps with deepfly bind tee_thinking

skychase is anice map with and without deepfly

I think in general it’s fair to assume that mappers don’t want their maps to be cheated

what do you do with old maps where at least top20 is cheated

14:14

i would really like to run i will be back normally but to to a good rank you have to cheat nw

you don’t touch old maps except for startline skips

hm thats sad :/

old = ~1,5 years

what a about a fixed version of the map with maybe a slightly different design adn call it "I will be back (directors cut)"

its just such a waste of nice parts

I don’t know that map tbh

14:21

releasing a second, fixed version would be reasonable for really good maps, yea

@jao What was skip for startline on Milthrid Core ?

xd?

this is the intended way

14:25

and this is the best possible route

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14:26

there are more skips than in the best route but you dont need them, you can also skip a lot on the right side of the map

@Im 'corneum Even worse, skip in Plaza

@Neben finishing with 2 teams and then doing some fuckery

but probably intended

14:28

@jao oh xd

I think there is a full explanation on forum

jao i'd like to fix the map but i know you dont trust me, would you fix the map if i showed you all cheats i know?

stop leaking skips pls

you can skip the old version if everything goes right

isn’t there a script to show the diff between two maps?

14:30

@Learath2 is there?

hmh has one

@Freezy Good idea, make a category on discord to leak skips

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but i think it was only for my my special teleporters

it shouldn’t be too hard to make if you know how to read map files

Skips add more fun to the game. Stop fixing them. Except the ones that allow to finish big map in a minute (edited)

what if mappers secretly intended to have the "skip" be the actual map and the longer path is just the noob path GWbruhTrolled

(edited)

hi

17:38

my ddent sound is bugged after the latest update.

17:38

what should i do?

@Barry. download new version from ddnet.tw

@Barry. turn off the sound

we fixed it in 11.4.6, but I don't think it gets fixed if you auto-update

how to keep my records, ss, friend list, ghosts?

they are kept automatically

17:38

they are stored in a different directory, see config_directory.bat

i copy that one?

no, just download new client, extract and run

@ezy some mappers do this actually

@deen thanks

@zzz i hope ddnet doesnt fix those skips since its the way the mapper intended to do the map and they say they ask the mapper if they can contact them

hmm

17:42

sound still bugged.

17:43

going with the previous version then..

17:45

well

17:46

going back to

we don’t ask mappers; too much hassle. it’s fair to assume mappers don’t want their map to be cheated

to 4.4. the sounds works fine for me on 4.4

"Ideally it depends on the mapper whether a shortcut should be fixed. If the mapper can't be reached anymore and the shortcut skips a large part of the map, I'd say fixing it is a good choice"

17:47

~deen

who is the head admin of ddnet?

"ideally"

i mean the highest rank

how many bugs and skips do you guys have to fix that it starts hassling too much?