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Between 2018-11-08 00:00:00Z and 2018-11-09 00:00:00Z
mhh just as a update for you guys it kinda seems to be working fine now on DDNet 10.8.6 (for whatever reason?) ... atleast i got no lagg spikes so im happy now w/e just dont have to update then lol, an intersting thing is like on ddnet 10.8.6 i got 720 fps on average, where on DDNet 11.4.6 i got like 400 on average
"disable vsync. gfx_refresh_rate 1000
cl_refresh_rate 0
if still laggs
install newest gpu driver from nvidia.com
if still laggs try opengl3
if still laggs rip
probs some overheating or bad power management"
@Deleted User thanks for supporting your opengl3 change all the time btw, I appreciate it and I know it must be annoying dealing with lots of weird driver problems etc
u know exatcly why they do it and you DO understand it. with only a few clicks and some money they can make a lot of people unhappy. and just that fact is enough for them to do it
i think if you ask them they say that they dont really care and they do it for the lolz and incidentally. but really i think they care a lot, but thats goin into psyche stuff idk
yes but sadly he will never be confronted with it in real life. imagine if someone asks him what he does this afternoon and he said, "im gonna ddos servers from a 11 year old game that has a playerbase on 400 people for fun"
i never made records for syltoox tho, it wouldnt even work since i only got zimes bot client and syltoox men of steels, so please overthink your messages before saying stuff that isnt even true(edited)
ok, then we can fluch every single rank from every single player down the drain because "we cant be sure" and also every rank efore teehistorian and also its only with keyboard cam now
Actually, I agree with you @jao that we should be fair with fair ranks, but shouldn't we ask N9mkOik first, what he thinks of it ?
Would he be ok to be "deleted" and start a new whole life on tw ?
It looks like a stupid way of finding what's the better thing to do, but since you try to keep him as an active pro player, I think this is important to ask him
and it doesn't matter if he is ok with deleting legit ranks or not. legit ranks should simply not be deleted. we want to keep our rank system's integrity
don't you think by exposing him people will stop liking him? just look at this chat, people were emotionally, they will probably see him as a botter for quite some time now; even after his ban will have ended
@jao how about u with ur 123456765432 devs actually make a fukin bot detection and than u can accuratly delete ranks and know the exact amout of ranks that have been botted and can detect future botters
@ezy making good bot detection for something like ddnet is probably difficult, even noby's bot detection isn't perfect and it's a much much simplier mod
how about all ddnet devs stop working on crappy client updates that no one cares about and start working on making a bot detection
saying ddnet devs are always buisy is just a lie
@Neben the rank system should be meaningful. e.g. people should be rank1 if they deserved it and not because the previous rank1, which was also legit, was deleted
@Learath2 yea so i bet you guys could make a bot detection if you count together your 50 hours per week on working on ddnet client and instead invest it into bot detection
@Ravie
ddnet says they are always busy
ddnet makes new client updates that are absolutely useless
so they should be able to work on a bot detection instead and just stop developing those small changes(edited)
@jao You can say whatever you want, but ranks are here because people
So if you don't want n9 anymore, or you don't actually care about his future on ddnet, you shouldn't care at all about his ranks
I want n9, but as a legit player. that doesn't mean he should go unpunished. he gets the punishment he deserves, but that punishment won't be at the cost of something else
@jao but the punishment itself requires a minimum amount of action, and that was deleting his botted ranks. that would make it abusive if we delete all of his legit ranks.
@Learath2@Ravie since u were asking about the botdetection well if uve played on my server and seen this numbers spam its the main debug output for the antibot, basically each column is a differnt pattern it looks for in a players' consecutive shots/hits/inputs to guess whether they have
aimbot | triggerbot | eyefollow | hookbot/hammerbot
and if the patterns show up too often to be humanlike based on thresholds ive found from lots of real player data then it votes to ban them
@jao Ok, I re-thinked about everything.
You punished him to make him not bot again, I just thought we could use this punishment as a way to make everyone "happy".
If he agrees with it, delete everything about him, to make everyone accept a little more this situation, if he doesn't, then respect rank's integrity as you wanted.
I just want to remember that anyway our goal is for all the same, like I said previously, keep the game's integrity, and by just punishing him like you wanted, we won't really earn anything while we could
i think if someone wants to keep their legit ranks after being caught botting then they should have to be the ones to provide proof that they were legit its not fair to waste admins' time looking thru hundreds of runs
Are botters a real issue ? I mean obviously it seems to be but playing only on ddnet servers i don't recall seeing any cheaters. Or at least if someone was i'm not able to tell the difference with a real player
dareka... you are making this conversation too complicated to understand... botters like n9mk0ik should get his punishment, what actual admins want to decide
how does someone cheats like that ? are they just basically copying the movement of other players ? Because it seems you guys are able to find cheaters by comparing multiple runs, someone cheating once per map wouldn't get caught ?