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Between 2018-08-16 00:00:00Z and 2018-08-17 00:00:00Z

I miss waffle :(

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@Ryozuki nobo it is @thewauf

who is WAFtheguaq1193098418763402

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and he's probably on a really long vacation

03:23

or dead

03:27

guys btw add me on steam my username is "tght" i have a blue cop pfp

R.I.P

check my yyoutube channel i want monjey

wtf is happening

05:53

on ddnet

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tw got popular GWfroggyMonkaThink

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they are all (connecting) fake

new attack on tw?

wtf

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06:55

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you have friends everywhere!

lol

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yeah, but well calling with old attacking on teeworlds and also server is full (edited)

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Old attack, ddnet already has a workaround for it, we just need to backport it to other mods: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/1257

Exploit · Issue #1257 · ddnet/ddnet

I'm sure you already know. It seems like Teerace servers are not affected by this. I feel that there can be a few ways to cause this. a) Slow the download speed from the client side b) Delay ha...

hmm

No vacation just dead

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It is easy to assume but i also do think it. He dissapeared while he was pretty active.

Thats really sad feelsbadman

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@deleted-role pls help and vote for me i got dnsbld .-.

09:09

ah now its workin agian c:

why on lichking trailer they used balance bot ROFL

09:33

btw that's a case where if people do use it it gives extreme advantage

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Im seeing lots of full servers and some like 15/16 then when I enter there are no players anyone knows why?

bug

when this will be fix ?

idk

admins can't ban the IP adress ?

Not bug, it's a vulnerability

11:28

It's one we already fixed for ddnet servers

11:29

It's not coming from one IP address, it's a spoofed attack

it's fixed

11:39

fo ddnet servers (edited)

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wtf

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are you saiyng

11:40

if you fixed why is it still a vulnerability

11:40

since it is happening on ddnet servers

11:40

i don't get it

I mean ddrace servers that ddnet hosts

11:40

some other mods we host don't have the fix

11:41

Also passworded ddnet servers are vulnerable because we need to keep them vanilla compatible (edited)

ah okay

11:48

that sucks

U sucks

so we need to fix and restart all servers ?!

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12:13

Is this piece of shit jao still ddnet admin? (edited)

12:13

I have demos of him blocking, insulting others, playing with bots

why on lichking trailer they used balance bot ROFL Because we were too lazy to waste our time trying to record this moment differently.

ah and we players should waste our time at this part which u cant even do

the guy who blocks is a faker

@Arem Shin [Артюня] wtf is that excuse

and u say that

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I spent more on the whole map than any of those present here, so I see no reason to reproach myself for having decided to record the moment for a trailer in a different way. (edited)

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im not botting my own parts lmao

And I already said that I never used bots for all my playing experience. It's just a video, nothing more. The remaining players who finished, were able to do without cheating. Then what's your problem? (edited)

idc anymore im not playin ur map

12:21

its ok

@Arem Shin [Артюня] Did you even do your part in the normal way? (edited)

Yes, some years before.

years before balance pro

12:22

ofc

What do you mean?

12:25

And the fact that you will no longer play on this card does not bother me at all. Do not want to - do not play. Draw conclusions from the trailer, I think it's silly, because other players quietly pass the card without cheats.

I don't like that someone uses gameplay bots in an official trailer

It's just a trailer

yes. it's openly using bots. gameplay bots. this is like using an aimbot in a cs:go video, I don't think people would look kindly on that

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imagine valve were to publish such a video

the fact why he used gameplay bots bothers me too

Would you care if he spliced it instead?

no

12:44

as I would not care about splicing in a cs:go video either

12:44

but this is literally a gameplay cheat

It's no more of a lie then a splice, it's just that he couldnt perform the trick

"aimbots are no more a lie than splicing cs:go videos together"

12:45

I do not agree

Csgo is different, you splice it we dont have any information what happened between the splice

thats a weak excuse, he could skip this part in the trailer, get someone else to do it, or could even try the part for a longer time he would do it

Yes but why waste the time? The end result would be the same

12:47

Splice it good enough a lot of people would call it a bot

12:48

I personally would have omitted the part in the trailer tbh

lol @NeXus like jao would do that XDXD you rly got to hate him if you hope it was really him doing that shit

Anyways, that's just my two cents. I feel the means do not matter when you wouldnt know any better had he not said anything

because ""I"" kicked him from mods

wtf are you talking about

12:54

its the fact that you were unfair as fuck

12:55

you didnt tell me anything, notified me, gave me a warning something

12:55

you didnt give me the chance to speak

yes you are definitely fit for mod "this piece of shit jao"

stop chaning the topic

12:55

i talk like this bcs i stopped caring

12:55

for ddnet

12:55

you piece of shit

you don't have to care for ddnet to behave

12:56

that is something a mature person does intuitively (edited)

Could you tone it down a little?

kids

12:58

jao you are really a terrible person thats all.

you still believe it was my sole decision GWfroggyFeelsBaguetteMan

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Let this all be forgotten I dont care, I really dont. But I have a question what is with siO tho?

13:01

He probably keeps playing without any waning, ban or something right (edited)

I ban him if I see him botting after the start line

13:04

He usually just sits before the startline and chats anyways

so what do you think was the reason back then I banned him

13:04

which led to my mod ban btw

u lost mod because u banned a botter?

yes

13:05

but too late, i should banned him immediatly

ill save this

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and ddnet is still friendly to botters

13:06

xD

I think jao even sent you the demo related to why you were removed and you still think that?

13:07

Trailers are all about making things look good, everyone cheats in trailers

i was removed for complaining in public @NeXus , why they removed you?

13:08

Trailers are all about making things look good, everyone cheats in trailers

yeah u are just confirming my sentence

13:08

"and ddnet is still friendly to botters"

How does that sentence relate to cheaters?

13:09

A lot of games use programmed sequences to render out trailers, does that mean they allow cheating?

If a part is so hard you yourself needed bot to finish it why would you make players go through that?

he used a bot client, those trailers are not made with bot clients

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i would alreayd put him in a watchlist

the trailer was removed from the front page 15 minutes ago

13:10

ddnet is not friendly to botters

oh

13:10

you giving loads of opportunities to botters proof that

I can spend a lot of time trying to record a demo of how this part goes through, and after changing the trailer, if you want. But what will it change in the global sense? Most of the people here did not even see the trailer. I'm sure that about forty percent of people have revisited the trailer once or twice, hence this number of views. I lead to the fact that even if in the trailer this moment will be recorded differently, this does not guarantee that the players will play fair. The average player does not even understand where the bot is used, and where not. Syltoox believes that Vendetts & Kicker have gone through this part of the game with cheats, but it's not. Even he took a clean and honest passage for the cheats.

It's just me @Ryozuki, I know you can't imagine people having different opinions

i cant? i am seeing u have a different opinion right now so???

13:12

nonsense

you do tend to not respect other people's opinion

Also many game trailers are made with clients that are specifically programmed for that, e.g. most unreal engine games feature matinee programmed sequences

yeah and a bot client is not made for that

13:12

@heinrich5991 and you tend to ban to fast for unfair things (edited)

Client specifically made to replay sequences. Does that sound familiar?

13:13

Illusion of perfect gameplay in trailers is okay with me and I don't care how they achieve it, It just looks good, a trailer is supposed to look good.

the trailer made with bots kinda promotes botting

13:13

since this is the first tw trailer i see that used a bot

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and i seen a lot

He could have perfectly spliced it and you wouldn't know, it's an illusion, it's supposed to look good, he just wasn't good enough to pull it off without help

then there is something wrong with the map

nah. people map all kinds of impossible things

13:15

I've given up on that

13:15

or he is just not good enough to play the map? I'm not good enough for many maps

and he could have called someone with more skill too

What If I mapped them? I'm not allowed to have a good trailer for it?

13:15

Which as I said is what I would have done, I'd have asked someone else to do it and splice the trailer

now that i watched the botted part i can confirm it looks rly annoying and that the map should be removed

that's a question for @jao and the testing people

yeah ur beloved jao

oldschool map

13:18

if it was a new one it wouldn’t be ok

aaaaaand here we got the excuse of the day

jao, someone who actually does work

13:19

@Ryozuki please stop with fruitless negativity

Oldschool is more of an archival project really

@Arem Shin [Артюня] since i saw a demo of kicker goes through the part, i think its legit. but they still cheated your part with a tower trick xD. anyone who passed this part in the original way without cheats?

@heinrich5991 is there a rule against it?

13:19

or u will invent it now

"be nice"

yeah i love those "rules" that are so ambiguous

neither your "[3:18 PM] Ryozuki: yeah ur beloved jao" nor "[3:18 PM] Ryozuki: aaaaaand here we got the excuse of the day" was anything but pointless negativity

and?

"Is there a rule against it" really pisses me off, it's like legal loopholes. Murder your wife, beyond reasonable doubt, Jury Nullification and you are not guilty.

you will censor that too?

just ban him if he wants to start useless drama

@jao can't there is no rule against it

ofc

13:21

use common sense

oh yeah "drama" your new tool to fastban people

There is no rule against ddos either, so you should pick up ddosing aswell @Ryozuki

@Learath2 ddos is against the law

realistically speaking, if you're in spain, there's nothing that german police will do against it

It's a grey area, we couldn't get a german citizen on ddosing a german ip

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you'll be fine

i think its a europe wide law

13:22

and im sure it is ilegal in spain too

it's forbidden, yes, but law enforcement has huge problems enforcing it

@J$ON, you think the tower trick is cheats? You mean physical bug, yes?

i didnt say its a cheat dude

it's funny i get threats of getting banned for saying " "[3:18 PM] Ryozuki: yeah ur beloved jao" nor "[3:18 PM] Ryozuki: aaaaaand here"

it's not these particular lines, it's your pattern

oh sry for being myself

@J$ON, then i don't a problem. On the old version play no so many players, then only me and BaRSuM tested this part.

@Arem Shin [Артюня] but if none is doing ur part in the original legit way, why should the part still stay in the map?

Qhy not?

nobody likes the part xD

13:26

except u *

Lol, in old version all can pass only noobfilter.

@heinrich5991 btw that map part promotes botting, honestly (i don't want drama): it is a really repetitive part and it is solved easily by a tool most bots have which is the tower bot

It's just an oldschool map, shouldn't even get many finishes anymore (edited)

im ready to play the map if the part gets shorted or smth

i feel like sometimes mappers forget to map for fun or challenge and like making people suffer

yes

I just don't play those, some insane maps just try to drive you literally insane

I also think that maps are too long nowadays

13:28

and I don't really like that maps are declined for being too short

I do not consider it necessary to love a card in order to pass it. I have already expressed my position on this matter. I see no reason to repeat myself. And I do not see the point of giving so much attention to this kind of attention to the map. If she does not like it, do not play. Nobody forces.

@Arem Shin [Артюня] its not just ur map

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it really forces when the server gets filled with those kind of maps

13:29

this is a coop game

@Arem Shin [Артюня] I think we're done discussing your map in particular, now we're mostly just discussing our current rules

I just answer to @Syltoox.

(then u should tag)

@heinrich5991 Most maps released recently are pretty short actually, only a few long ones

@Ravie okay, I have to admit that I haven't played recently :/

I don't mind the long t0 maps, they bring in the "event" feeling

lichking is not relevant to new maps or our rules

@J$ON i like dat part

nice shoes

@Kicker okay. *only few guys like it^^

guys

14:28

we should have a real tw race map

14:29

where 4 tees just try to walk to the end the fastest

ger2 votes not working btw

7749 players XD

14:45

nice spoof

why are all so many servers filled up, is this some sort of attack? i wonder why only specific servers are affected. you can block player slots without a handshake, really teeworlds?

@timakro passworded ddrace servers dont have spoof protection

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vanilla either

do you know why its connected to password protection?

eh someone explained it days ago i dotn remember

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"Also passworded ddnet servers are vulnerable because we need to keep them vanilla compatible"

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Come to this group have nfsw,memes,gameskin,skin,welcome,chat general,Music and more (edited)

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@Xusep silence you are noob high i win you for 12 part

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@Xusep NOB poor you home is no good

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when new rating system

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@jao joajoajoajo

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when new rating system?

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why people ahte on me

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i just say that they are trash for brutal and they get mad

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#freerockus

noby ban him

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