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Between 2018-08-14 00:00:00Z and 2018-08-15 00:00:00Z

Why did you switch to http map downloads? Is it faster?

it's faster, it's a protocol designed for that

18:06

it's been in use for multiple years now, it's not a new change

@heinrich5991 can you have a look on GitHub, please

for what in particular?

18:07

I'm currently trying to catch up on 2 weeks of updates :/

prefix

i know its not new, i'm thinking about using it on the Unique servers

ah

18:14

@timakro http download only works with the official ddnet map servers currently

18:14

if you send the map's sha256 to ddnet clients, they'll automatically try to download it from there

18:14

should work for unique's servers as well

thanks, I might look into it at some point

CMsgPacker Msg(0);
Msg.AddRaw("\xf9\x11\x7b\x3c\x80\x39\x34\x16\x9f\xc0\xae\xf2\xbc\xb7\x5c\x03", 16); // map-details@ddnet.tw
Msg.AddString(GetMapName(), 0);
Msg.AddRaw(&m_CurrentMapSha256.data, sizeof(m_CurrentMapSha256.data));
Msg.AddInt(m_CurrentMapCrc);
Msg.AddInt(m_CurrentMapSize);
SendMsgEx(&Msg, MSGFLAG_VITAL, ClientID, true);

18:29

roughly that if you have servers without uuid message support

/rankpoints XXX when?

when you implement it

wyh me. u are the coder

because I apparently have different priorities than you do

18:38

you because you want to see this feature

why are you so inactive lately anyways?

why haven't you learned some c++ while I was away so you could take over…

work mostly

I delayed joining this discord for 3 more days after my vacation because I guessed it would stress me

18:41

it seems I was right :/

are you angry?

I guess (?) dunno

18:42

it seemed to me that you contributed a little to whatever state of mind I have now

i didnt mean to.

thanks, it's okay

btw, regarding teleportation weapons

19:15

which of these made the most sense, after the map testing event?

19:16

I'd suggest moving them out to separate weapons instead of using on/off tiles

19:16

sounds better to me from a game design point of view

"when you implement it"

19:47

joke

19:47

how would that work?

19:47

using on of tiles u can swap on off telegun easily without losing it

19:48

the only way to get rid of weapons on tw

19:48

is using shields

19:48

in my opinion i think its good as it is now

19:48

one thing we could make is to implement a map option to invert the teleblocker tile

19:49

a.k.a you can only teleport to the teleblocker if the map option is enabled

19:49

that way u dont have to fil the map with teleblockers

19:49

but idk if that is a good idea

I don't like that you get your normal weapons taken away when you get tele weapons

19:53

when not thinking about implementation or anything, this doesn't really make sense to me as a player

19:53

I'd rather get a new teleportation gun

did u try the feature?

19:54

there are 3 types

19:54

of teleporthun

yes

teleportgun*

19:54

not just 1

19:54

and how would u repesent that gun ingame

19:54

u cant add more sprites

why not?

vanilla

you'd display a compatibility sprite for vanilla

we would need 3 then

if we want to keep all three, haven't heard from the testing

nobody said to remove anything

19:55

in the testing

19:55

they reported a bug with tune zone

19:56

where gun_speed 0 and shooting a wall teleports u

19:56

to a far far pos

19:56

and kills u

19:56

but its tune zone..

19:57

i still feel its better the way it is now

why?

the tele feature is like using current weapons and adding a teleport at end

19:57

gun, grenade and rifle

19:57

think of it as an extension

19:57

idk

yes. but you can't do the usual stuff with the weapons anymore

yeah you cant have all in life

unfreeze someone (you'd get frozen as well)

19:58

I think this is bad from a learnability and gameplay perspective

19:58

if I have a laser, I want to unfreeze people with it

no

I think a separate weapon for teleportation would be better

that is mappers decision

19:59

if mappers wants u to unfreeze he wont add telegun

yes. they can still decide

19:59

but now I have a laser and depending on the part it does different things

19:59

it'd be better if I get a telegun for one part and a laser for another

if u get someone that does 3 new gun sprites and more people agree i have no problem with it

20:00

i will not code vanilla compat tho

you mean mapping the new weapons to the old ones?

how would u do vanilla compat

anyway, that particular part doesn't sound like the hard part

displaying 2 times the laser gun

20:00

?

yes

how would u know what u have

20:01

u would scroll 2 times and see same weapon

how would you currently know what you have? watching for server messages?

20:01

it's bad enough that it's like that in the vanilla client, but for the ddnet client, we should have something better

maybe a idea would be to show rotating gun grenade or rifle projectiles

20:01

when the user holds a telegun

20:02

around the tee

20:02

in ddnet we can have sprites

20:02

and in vanilla show rotating projectiles around tee

20:02

or something like that

I'm not sure the latter is possible, but yes for the rest

im not sure either

20:03

btw

20:03

lot of ppl also use custom game tiles

20:03

we would fck their ones

20:03

unless they copy paste the new sprites

20:03

i mean they wouldnt see the weapon

we're adding a new gameplay feature. I guess stuff like that happens

20:08

to mitigate that, one could write a small python script or a fallback ingame

@timakro what u think of this

It is possible to change weapon color in game? Without changing game.png

20:19

Could be use to differentiate them just an idea.

its not possible with vanilla clients

Vanilla is ded feelsbadman

feelsbadman

I dont want to scroll through my weapons twice lol

21:03

just leave it like it is

yea adding a new wep might be a distavantage for scrollers

i dont use key bindings, just scrolling

21:05

so yea

is it possible to don't allow jumps in stoppers?

tune zones or set jumps tile

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