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Between 2018-06-28 00:00:00Z and 2018-06-29 00:00:00Z

new cleint is pretty buggy

00:05

takes lots of time to reload

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and when i alt tab

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it freezes for some seconds

alt tab is windows bug

00:11

or "feature" xd

doesnt freeze for me

never happened

02:20

to me

02:20

lagging like this

@Rockus ok Windows settings -> system -> focus assist (the one with the moon as icon) -> disable the automatic rules tell that anybody who uses windows, all happy

what does that do

what does it do @Deleted User

I remember alt tab started being slow after a windows update

07:57

for me

Exactly, this happens since an april update

It fixes ofc

or borderless

11:55

will help as well

@Deleted User did u just recommended me to buy a new computer? My macbook is not state of the art but very close to it. And dropping macOS isn't a good idea. We have some very important tees using mac as their only and or main machine.

yes i highly recommend you buying a new PC, so you aren't a slave for apple anymore, np. As soon as apple dropped OpenGL support i don't see a reason why we should support it. Or do you want to write a metal backend and give apple, what they wanted... the right to controll your software

i dont use my macbook as the main machine but its the only laptop i own that can run teeworlds with nice fps

13:43

because apple is nice

13:43

i spend 3 times the price on the razer blade pro and it cant run teeworlds half as smooth as my macbook can

13:44

also my ubuntu laptop sucks at it

xDDDDDDDD razer nice

13:46

much better

it runs windows

13:46

and has a 1080

dude u generally buy overprived hardware?

no

13:47

my ubuntu laptop cost only 500 and is from lenovo

then install linux on your macbook, then its good xd

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yeah sry, but i don't give apple any existence, i never seen something not "dick move" from them

the os is beatiful

i can't argue on that, but i'm ok with tastes, if you like it ok. but that doesn't mean every developper should care about it, or needs to change its software because the maintainer changes something so common

13:52

opengl is the so highly accepted currently

13:52

it's just a sad dick move

ye i agree the openGL support breakup sucks

even most embedded system run it

i agree

13:53

and i also run windows on my main machine currently

13:54

but there are many interesting and important people who are even more die hard apple fans than me and loosing these dudes is not good .-.

indeed

13:54

strange ppl xD

13:55

if linux or even better FreeBSD would get over 50% marketshare on desktop pcs... i wouldn't see any reason for any other OS XD

Vulcan is the future

15:50

https://github.com/KhronosGroup/MoltenVK

KhronosGroup/MoltenVK

MoltenVK is an implementation of the high-performance, industry-standard Vulkan graphics and compute API, that runs on Apple's Metal graphics framework, bringing Vulkan to iOS and macOS.

i saw "Apple" I gave up

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15:58

2muchCancer4me

Vulkan is actually pretty nice stuff

16:46

it's much lower overhead then OGL

[quakenet] <Learath2> and it's not apple's work btw, it's mostly work by AMD donated to some non-profit

no

18:45

it is slow

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form e

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now that i updated teeworlds

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it's different

18:45

not windwos update

lower overhead?

Vulkan actually is lower than OGL in design

i gives more controll over your graphic application, but doesnt need to be faster. it depends on what you need and how well the dev codes it

Yea, lowe. but it means that you need to write more stuff before making triangle

19:07

For me, actually super beginner, OpenGL is much simpler

19:07

But Khronos Group made some wrappers I guess

ofc opengl is simpler, vulkan is supposed to give more lower level access thus less overhead

19:19

but in exchange you give up more simplicity

Maybe i didn't understand your first statement. For me Vulcan give me more overhead, since i need to know much more just to start (edited)

19:25

but you are right

I meant overhead as in the library creating overhead for operations not development overhead

19:27

yes vulkan does create a lot more development overhead

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geuss ill just not update anymore then xd

That's the solution, ya

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