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Between 2018-06-06 00:00:00Z and 2018-06-07 00:00:00Z
00:33
time for another commit c:
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 00:41:20Z
hehe full selfpushing @heinrich5991 i took that serious :p
00:41
shaemless elfppromotion xd
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 00:50:16Z
what a waste xd im not allowed to use github until sunday .-.
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 00:50:46Z
i want to draw a ❤
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pixelart in my contributons graph
00:51
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ah good luck 😉
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 00:51:31Z
ye thanks c: huughe project
00:53
guess ima check rl for a few days c:
00:53
good night @dezveloperz and lola
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@heinrich5991 Intellij while a very decent IDE it really is a memory-hog it easily takes up 2-3 gigs
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Java is quite fast nowadays but when working with low latency applications or very high volumes quite-fast - raw-speed grows very quickly
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the lax nature of these languages and their reliance on a GC makes them very prone to be memory hogs
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also generally the performance comparisons you get between the language conveniently take out the java startup time and the JIT getting used to the patterns, yet the users experience the startup time
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 06:35:37Z
I don't Know If i did something wrong but i once used newlines in a console application in in Java to refresh the "frame". And you could see the text moving slowly up. With any Other language it looked like a clear screen
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8a761bf Add commands for switching pages in console - ChillerDragon 08c45ce Merge pull request #1133 from ChillerDragon/ConsolePages - def-
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522c893 Update credits - ChillerDragon e72413c Merge pull request #1137 from ChillerDragon/UpdateCredits - def-
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 08:56:21Z
thanks deen c:
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adding yourself to credits is bad luck 😛
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@Learath2 yup. startup time and latency is parts where java doesn't shine
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in fact, try making a console command with java – it won't work, startup latency is too big
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0.25 seconds for a hello world program on my computer
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 11:24:08Z
@Learath2 ikr and it feelt really weird but heinrich said it so i coudlnt resist. This was a hughe goal in my life for a long time c:
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ye thats what i also exoirenced with my console app in java
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wasnt there a way to have clear entities with the map background? i forgot the settings
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Background can be removes by settings-ddnet- show quads @timakro
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With this helpfull advise i can get in the credits too right?
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i want overlay/clear entities with the map background
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i dont want to hide the map background
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%current%
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@timakro
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i remember what do i do with this string again?
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settings->ddnet->background(entities)-> Map: %current%
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thanks!
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Hmm nice trick tezcan should be creditted instead of me :0
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developers could you pls change the maximum filesize limit for avatars on the forum?
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My friend want to use this avatar but forum says its big
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@lola u think developer is a graphic designer?
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;_;
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no, but they can change that limit on the forum, don't be silly
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what forum
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that forum
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ddnet
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?
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soo ask someone who did this website (webmaster)
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but i dont think they change this for u
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lol
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but I don't know who is that, I better ask @Dev
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wtf
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I think every developer can do that but they are too lazy
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@noby oh you are developer too? I thought you are bot hunter
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@Deleted User there is no "webmaster"
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;-;
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omg
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I got this found bugs, because some score bugged.
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im there
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whats bugged?
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@lola score players
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Yeah maybe @lola can fix it
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no @n000b, lola won't fix it now
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And if he can't he is uselss and deserves a ban
thonkery 2
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I dont understand why its bugged? 😦
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!!!
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banhammer
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his bugged
troll 3
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what's wrong with this last pic?
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not wrong his picture, this founded some bugs
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Is tw/ddnet using opengl?
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I wonder why apple deprecates it
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 18:55:35Z
ye we newly added it as far as i remember
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I don't even know what it is
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Is it for the graphical rendering?
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 18:59:43Z
ye
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Okay and why is it bad? (edited)
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 18:59:56Z
we also use SDL and SDL2 i guess
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but this opengl is some new feature i think
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you mean why apple stops the support?
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idk
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@Gabee opengl is not bad
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apple wants devs to use Metal instead of OpenGL
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cuz apple
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Oh I see
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But Metal is apple-only right?
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wow #surprise #unexpected #new
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thanks for enlightening me Ryozuki
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:02:23Z
@Ryozuki daiyl hero
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btw i finally have my stuff working i guess @Ryozuki
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but i have to wait until sunday to shop it .-.
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ship*
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:04:31Z
contribution limitations to create a nice pixl art in my graph
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u will see soon as u just became folower
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and visit my github profile every day
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c:
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ChillerDragon you talking about your job? what is it?
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:07:48Z
job? xd
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im still in school
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im done with school next thursday if things go well c:
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i was talking about shipping ddnet++ code which i do as a hobby c:
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@ChillerDragon teeworlds/ddnet always used opengl, the recent updates are only using a newer version and more features of opengl
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:33:49Z
ah oke
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@Gabee as i said i wasnt sure about it but heinrich is boss
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@ChillerDragon what do you study
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@heinrich5991 obrigado
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obrigado?
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Rafael Fontenelle 2018-06-06 19:36:22Z
Thank you in Portuguese
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:37:34Z
clasical german abitur @Gabee no study yet its same as high school i guess
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im planning on studying computer scienece
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@ChillerDragon Oh it's the "general" school?
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@Rafael Fontenelle vc é pt?
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:40:26Z
ye
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@heinrich5991 du sollesst mehr sprachen lernen 😄
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@ChillerDragon so you're pretty young actually
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:41:12Z
ruski
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Well everyone is, I forgot it's teeworlds
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je ne comprends pas le français
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:41:21Z
im pretty slow at school actually im 19
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@heinrich5991 ich kann nicht deutsch verstehen
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word order!
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:41:48Z
nazi
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@heinrich5991 word order? (edited)
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"ich kann deutsch nicht verstehen"
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banhammer 2
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:42:05Z
heinrich grammer nazi
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my german teacher is gonna beat me up
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:42:34Z
better learn rus
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rus > ger
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deutsch ist zu kompliziert
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:42:44Z
f3
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weil ich französe bin
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:43:07Z
i once had zer0 points in a german exame xd
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Ich habe alle allein deutsch gelernt
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:43:18Z
wp
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#developer ??
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:43:23Z
yes
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only dev talk here
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we are talking about languages
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meh – a little off topic is fine. we had that in #ddnet on IRC as well
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SO AS I WAS SAYING *arhm* I believe the c function of ddnet shall be rewritten
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doesn't code
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:44:22Z
xd
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me neither
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then what exactly are your PRs, @ChillerDragon ?
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😛
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Well I understand code and review a bit but I'm not into maths
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:44:50Z
was my cat running on the keyboard @heinrich5991
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-> sysadmin -> Coders' hero (edited)
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I ran to the sysadmin of my faculty at university the other day
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[quakenet] <fstd> ^ that is a unicode that even my utf-8 view can't even
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they were very helpful
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> that's just some discord emoji
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> it replaces stuff automatically
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[quakenet] <fstd> ah
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[quakenet] <fstd> he a unix person?
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[quakenet] <fstd> the sysadmin, i mean
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> he's running macos on his work station
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> but he seemed competent
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> after determining that the next problem lies with the university's (and not the faculty's) computer systems, I went there
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> and experienced the opposite
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I talked to the help desk guy
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[quakenet] <fstd> well what does he run on his servers tho? :)
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> we have linux I think
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> the help desk guy was the opposite of useful
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> the first question I asked was "where is the sysadmin?" the answer was "what's the problem?"
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[quakenet] <fstd> yeah that doesn't really sound like a good start tho..
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> "the stunnel for the mysql connections from my faculty to your systems on port 13008 seems to be down"
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:49:47Z
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coder cat
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> he goes on to call someone, omitting all the details
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[quakenet] <fstd> mhh
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> he tells me to write an email to the user's help address
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I ask whether I can go to the sysadmin, but no, important computer systems are on the way to their office
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> fortunately someone had the nice idea of searching the staff listing for a person who might be the one I needed
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> and indeed, found a phone number, called it. 30s later it was working again
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[quakenet] <fstd> hah i was just gonna recommend trying to find that in the DNS :D
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everything that we write here is relayed on IRC?
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yes
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[quakenet] <fstd> it's a shame that you aren't actually on IRC tho
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so fstd knows when I say that he is not smart?
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yes
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[quakenet] <Gabee> Hi
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in fact, since IRC hiliting works a bit differently from Discord hiliting, he'll even get a popu
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p
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[quakenet] <Gabee> Wow it really works
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> you're starting weechat as root?
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> sounds like a good idea
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[quakenet] <fstd> i'm not smart enough to understand what the "popup" is trying to tell me
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[quakenet] <Gabee> heinrich5991: ye
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[quakenet] <Gabee> heinrich5991: weechat in gnome-terminal
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[quakenet] <Gabee> in the root session
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[quakenet] <Gabee> on rdp
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[quakenet] <Gabee> but it's safe I log IPs
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> what if your IRC client has a bug?
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> instant root access? ^^
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[quakenet] <Gabee> It has no bug it's weechat
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[quakenet] <fstd> talk about smart
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> fstd: I don't know – an LED, warning lights, a window popup, etc.
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[quakenet] <fstd> but regarding rdp, there's been a huge vulnerability just the other week
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[quakenet] <fstd> you better have that p atched
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[quakenet] <Gabee> nice heinrich5991
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[quakenet] <Gabee> you're on arch
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: I'm trolling
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[quakenet] <Gabee> if you guys don't believe me ctcp version me
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@ChillerDragon ill also do some kind of abitur in some days D:
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[quakenet] <fstd> heinrich5991: it beeps my terminal bell and causes the message to be yellow and also appear in a different part of the window
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Gabee: https://weechat.org/doc/security/ – oh true, look at it, all the security vulnerabilities are fixed
WeeChat, the extensible chat client
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[quakenet] <Gabee> the whole rdp / root / gnome is obviously a troll guys
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[quakenet] <fstd> you don't seem to troll well
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:55:55Z
cool @Ryozuki c: i already did a lot of abitur im like 4/5
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[quakenet] <Gabee> well you believed me :c
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[quakenet] <Gabee> anyway
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[quakenet] <fstd> doesn't speak for you that i found it easy to believe that you might be stupid :-)
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@ChillerDragon we do all exams 3 days in a row
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[quakenet] <Gabee> I like how it is 2018 and quakenet has no ipv6
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:56:33Z
sick sick
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[quakenet] <fstd> anyway
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: come on
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:56:40Z
what subjects?
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ddnet doesnt have ipv6
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: everyone is stupid on the internet
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[quakenet] <fstd> if i could even tab complete the discord faggets from here, i'd point out how that cat pic is the worst photoshop ever
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:57:09Z
bcs its no photoshop
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xd
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[quakenet] <Gabee> "discord faggets"
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:57:14Z
i prefer paint c:
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@ChillerDragon spanish, catalan, maths, physics, history, english, mmm i think thats all
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:57:24Z
catalan
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idk what this is
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xd
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my language
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[quakenet] <fstd> Gabee: fite me
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:57:35Z
what country?
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catalonia
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@ChillerDragon it's a spanish region language
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@ChillerDragon inside spanish, sadly
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:57:52Z
spain
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like bayern
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:57:55Z
ye say spain bro
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xd
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@ChillerDragon no
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spain sucks
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 19:58:03Z
i dont write abitur in bayern
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i wriet it in german xd
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we found the extremist
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Ryozuki soy frances puedo hablar en español 😦
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i dont like spanish nor its culture
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they kill bulls for fun
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Catalonia (Catalan: Catalunya, Occitan: Catalonha, Spanish: Cataluña) is an autonomous community in Spain on the northeastern extremity of the Iberian Peninsula, designated as a nationality by its Statute of Autonomy. Catalonia consists of four provinces: Barcelona, Girona, ...
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: ok ok, I once installed BSD
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: and now I use it at work to filter the network using pfsense :(
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they say torturing bulls is a fundamental human right
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corrida @Ryozuki ?
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and they put you in prison for saying the king is shit
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yea
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I'm pretty sure you're accurately representing their opinion
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@heinrich5991 what you mean
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jump over the border @Ryozuki france isn't that bad
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[12:59 PM] Ryozuki: they say torturing bulls is a fundamental human right
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i dont like france
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imperialism etc
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: your turn
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and they even cut off a hand of a protester
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imperialism? in france?
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come to germany, @Ryozuki 😛
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that defended a land against buildings
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@Ryozuki no they didn't
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they did
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You're in a massive protest
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Some people destroy things
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i dont remember how it is called
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The police requests people to disperse, to go away
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They do not
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They ask again
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They do not
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They ask one last time
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They don't
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They send a grenade
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wow
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The guy took the grenade in his hand
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that escalated quickly
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😮
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@Gabee they were ocupying a land to protect it against a company wanting to build on it and destroying all nature
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What do you think would happen?
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and police came in with grenades
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no they're not
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Notre-Dames-Des-Landes was already canceled
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They were getting rid of the people occupying illegaly other people's property
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but they cut off someones hand
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i saw a raw image
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Because they gave 3 months for the people to go away
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@Ryozuki they did not
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The guy had 3 months to leave
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The project was abandonned
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The lands were given back to the previous owners
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@heinrich5991 idk if i like germany
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But the owners couldn't use the lands because it was occupied
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i wouldnt go to america due to their selfishness + kids with weapons and etc
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So the police said 3 months
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@Ryozuki So for that, maybe you get documented more
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@Ryozuki Regarding imperialism, we're against it as well
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@Ryozuki tbf, germany seems to have quite some german fetish, they want you to learn the language. other countries like sweden or so do not insist on that too much
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@Gabee your president is from the right side right?
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you know they want to kill north-catalan language?
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france
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you saw the protests?
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it's like spain
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you use my language otherwise i hit you
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@heinrich5991 it's insane how swedish ppl, danish, dutch, speak a very well english
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@Gabee the young generation is a little bit better in germany
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Northern Catalonia (Catalan: Catalunya del Nord [kətəˈɫuɲə dəɫ ˈnɔrt], also known as Catalunya Nord French: Catalogne Nord [katalɔɲ nɔʁ]), French Catalonia or Roussillon refers to the Catalan-speaking and Catalan-culture territory ceded to France by Spain throug...
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@Ryozuki France only recognizes French as the language of the republic. But it's going to change
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you have to much faith
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these politicians always lie
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@Gabee but that's the result of every movie, book, etc. getting translated into german
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they never do what they say
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atleast here
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@Ryozuki It's the same thing in Bretagne with Breton, in Toulouse with Occitan, in Corse with corsican etc
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you have less incentive to learn english
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@Ryozuki well
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well english doesn't need to be everywhere
f4 2
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multilanguage is not bad
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@Ryozuki 10 years ago you would not have been able to learn a local language within France
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@Ryozuki For 5 years now they created this Breton degree
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@Ryozuki It is now taught in school
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@Ryozuki It's progressing, on the right side
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catalan was forbidden here for decades
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due to fascism
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and we kept using it
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Yes it's slow, yes it's misunderstood, but no, stop spitting on your country
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You say english doesn't need to be everywhere yet you speak it
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on my country?
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i dont consider spain my country
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i'm catalan
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from catalonia
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so what?
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Cataluña should have a better recognition, yes (edited)
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dont kill me
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write it "catalunya"
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not cataluña
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that's how I learnt it
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I can also say Catalogne, or the Catalan region
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When you say Paris with the S at the end, I'm not triggered
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365 Videos of the Repression lived in Catalonia by the Spanish Police in the Referendum of October 1, 2017
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The entire world say PariSSSSSSS
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Do I complain about it?
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you are speaking in english
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so the proper way is catalonia
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the proper way according to who
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to english?
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There's nothing that says "it's written like this", it's all a consensus of people talking the same language
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About that
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This was purely illegal
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The referendum
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you are dumb
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literally
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You guys should have been smarter
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i knew a french imperialist would always say this
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A french imperialist
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You complain about politics
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And you follow them
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I'm just stating facts here
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Puigdemont?
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no you are not
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The pro catalan
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flying away his own region he loves so much
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you speak like a shitty fascist spanish
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if he didnt fled from there he would have went to jail withtout a court
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likethe politicians already in prison
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they havent even had a judgement and are already in prison
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I'm just gonna say one last thing before we stop because it's totally offtopic (and if you want, we can PM so you can show me more about catalan region)
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no i wont talk with you since i can see the ignorance already
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The fact that you tell me I'm dumb, I'm a french imperialist, I'm a shitty fascist spanish
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It's not respectful
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yeah im sry
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You wouldn't tell me that if I were in front of you
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Because if I were in front of you
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You'd be nicer and explain me how it works
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this pisses me ro another level (edited)
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Just like I did when you said "oh the french police cut someone's hand"
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I tried to explain, so you could understand
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but i had proofs of that
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and i know they did it
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No one is attacking you, no one is threatening you, I'm not stealing anything from you
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So relax, breathe, and we can talk & exchange
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We might learn something from each other
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I'm totally open to learn anything about the Catalan region (edited)
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Cuz I know it's part of France, so is the Basque country as well
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"part of france"?
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basque country too?
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what?
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Part of france
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As in the territory
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where you get that from
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We have catalan people living in france too
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but that doesnt mean its part of france
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Not that much but still
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thats the imperialism i mean
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Yes sorry I did not mean that
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@Ryozuki pm?
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: you gone?
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[quakenet] <fstd> i haven't been paying attention
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[quakenet] <Gabee> I feel bad that you think I'm stupid
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[quakenet] <fstd> Gabee: someone told you i'm a BSD fanboy didn't they? ;)
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[quakenet] <fstd> if not, i can one up that by running NetBSD practically everywhere from desktop to router to wifi AP to embedded crap :-)
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[quakenet] <fstd> looks around with a smug expression
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[quakenet] <fstd> i still have to sneak in some BSD at work tho :(
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Rafael Fontenelle 2018-06-06 20:31:09Z
@Gabee I'm BR, sponsor of DDNet Brazil. :)
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vou viajar no brasil em septembre?
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Eu adoro o pais
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Rafael Fontenelle 2018-06-06 20:35:21Z
Venha. Muita coisa legal por aqui. Clima bom, praia, etc.
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Siiim, e muito brasileiros pra falar com eles!
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Guys I'm sorry for the huge offtopic
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I hope you'll forgive me (edited)
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When spectating all teams are visible even if "/others" is disabled. It would be nice to show others team only if combined with "/others" command.
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i love flexbox
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@Ryozuki come to holland, we got lots of jobs in IT
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Tell me once you are arrived (edited)
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[quakenet] <fstd> Gabee: you gone?
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[quakenet] <fstd> tfw he gone
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@Ryozuki flexbox the wm?
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: i are here
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[quakenet] <fstd> so are i
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[quakenet] <fstd> you strike me as dutch
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[quakenet] <fstd> you dutch?
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ChillerDragon 2018-06-06 21:18:51Z
@n000b you live in holland?
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[quakenet] <fstd> please don't conflate holland and der neederlaanden.
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[quakenet] <fstd> it insults my ancient dutch nobility (which allows me to wear the "van" in "van fisted")
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[quakenet] <Gabee> hahahaha
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: Ik ben Frans maar ik leer Nederlands
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[quakenet] <Gabee> Ik ga de hele tijd naar nederland
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[quakenet] <Gabee> fstd: wait, do you speak dutch?
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[quakenet] <Gabee> lmao
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[quakenet] <Gabee> I'm french, just this
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[quakenet] <Gabee> french
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[quakenet] <fstd> i can kinda sorta understand dutch when it's written
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[quakenet] <fstd> but only because it's like fucked up german
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[quakenet] <fstd> when spoken i can't understand a thing
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[quakenet] <Gabee> so you're german?
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[quakenet] <fstd> i'm so german, i'll wait on a red light at night on an empty intersection
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[quakenet] <fstd> as a pedestrian!
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[quakenet] <Gabee> You laugh but ever since I went to germany I do that in france
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[quakenet] <Gabee> … and I'm the only one
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[quakenet] <Gabee> But it's so less stressful than looking at cars and try to be smart
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[quakenet] <fstd> i guess that would depend on the average number of cars in an empty intersection...
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[quakenet] <Gabee> lmao
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[quakenet] <Gabee> I really like germany too
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[quakenet] <Gabee> it's crazy the differences you encounter across the länder
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[quakenet] <fstd> i too like germany, but i hate the german obsession with rules
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> come on
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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> norms [is that the word] are cool
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[quakenet] <fstd> literally yesterday someone called the police on me merely because i had accidentally and for the first time ever parked in their parking spot (thinking it was mine when mine was really the one next to it)
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[quakenet] <fstd> and the one next to it is literally always unoccupied (duh, because it is mine) and that person even knew it so they could easily have parked there
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[quakenet] <fstd> or put a note on my car or whatever
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[quakenet] <fstd> but nah, calling the cops it is
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[quakenet] <fstd> heinrich5991: norms are something entirely different imho
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[quakenet] <Gabee> calling the cops for that
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[quakenet] <Gabee> wow
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[quakenet] <Gabee> always knew the germans were that extreme
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[quakenet] <fstd> yeh we literally hitler
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