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@Moderator @deleted-role Hi guys. I'm sorry to HL you like this but I don't really know how Discord works haha. Been active on teeworlds for years but it seems Teeworlds is no longer under active development. Meanwhile, DDNet has been active, enables many mods etc. My question is: have you ever considered talking to the Teeworlds team for a possible merge? Not changing Teeworlds with DDNet but have a proper - light - yet secure vanilla teeworlds? It would really work nicely if that were possible. I'm on OSX and run the vanilla client 0.6.3 (because 0.6.4 is messy with the fonts) and I'm tired of experiencing such problems, while DDNet has ping correction etc

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The last release is from 2016, the one before was 2014, and they were only security fixes, nothing more

woah

Teeworlds dont want to support mods

Heinrich5991 came from teeworlds for example

And im against a merge

@Ryozuki I know they don't

Ryouzki

I mean, having a vanilla client using all the ddnet technical benefits without affecting the user experience in the game

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I would rather want ddnet to break vanilla compatibility which would allow some fixes

Why are you guys laughing at me

We don't

I'm just proposing a possible change

10:14

Because I'm tired of the vanilla being shit

You know that oy considers ddnet the teeworlds killer?

oy sucks

Then donr play vanilla

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It sucks

Guys

vanilla is cool

I don't know the people and I don't care about what they think. You have two things: teeworlds & ddnet, one is cleary ahead of the other, and there's something to do here

especially with zooz client danAmazing

Tbh i got bored of vanilla at 10 mins of playing it

10:15

Mods made me stay in tw

@ᶰ°Konͧsti It is, I can play all the mods I want, which is really surprising

10:16

playing ctf or dm is funny enough but when you want to get deeper into the game you -have to- play the mods like openfng etc

but still fng2+>all

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If we had some sort of "official" teeworlds server as well, rather than some random official server with patches like for ddwar etc

I think outside of tune zone prediction is not possible due to vanilla compatibility

My point being, DDNet should be in charge of the official teeworlds as it is active. I'm not saying replacing vanilla but be able to bring features into it

10:18

It's either that or literally nothing

I dont think giving more work to ddnet is good, more when knowing that oy hates ddnet

@Gabee I want to do exactly what you had in mind, sth like a teeworlds+. A base for mods

But teeworlds devs are absolutely against vanilla changes

With SDL2 + OpenGL. The N player patch, extended protocol, teehistorian, improved auth, extended serverinfo

vanilla as in the original game, or vanilla as in "this is our code and no one else touches it"?

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Because once again, you can have a teeworlds "base" client, and a teeworlds which would be ddnet

@Learath2 sdl2 is great shit

Its more about vanilla devs not being hre at all :D

Sdl2 is good

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There are dozens of players still on ddnet 9

You simply dont know how many imorovements it has

cuz sdl2 sucks

Because so far DDNet is a rocket on the launchpad but cannot be fired as we're waiting for grand dad but grand dad is dead

Thats a lie konsti

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Everyonw uses 10+

So we're gonna wait forever

I dont know what kind of toaster u run it on konsti but I couldnt find a single computer that didnt work well with sdl2

@Ryozuki no

I see it with status rcon cmd

Ye i barely see anyone on < 10

@Ryozuki some players like me fake their version number to fix gay timer

Why can't ddnet be a fork, and then they just accept to break compatibility?

but they are actually using ddnet 9

find a cool name like TeeLand or something childish but yeah

Ddnet is a fork of a fork of a fork

That's imo the only way we're gonna see teeworlds 7

Already

You know, the legend of teeworlds 7

Teeworlds 7 wont exist

teeworlds 7, biggest myth on earth

0.7 is shit

It will

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Let's make it happen!

Keep dreaming with oy

0.7 would break all the physics

teeworlds 1.0.0

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0.7 wont happen

He still has 2013 prs there

@Ryozuki a fork of a fork of a fork? It's not based on the official vanilla thing?

We'll have a 0.6.4 enhanced at best

XD

@Gabee its based on the old ddrace client

Ddnet is based on ddrace64 which i think its based on ddrace32? Idk

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But yea a fork of a fork etc

woah

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I thought ddrace was you guys

Ddrace64 is based on ddrace

Anyway, looking at this: https://teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10516 it's really interesting the things we could do

Name 3 things you want to see in 0.7 (Page 1) — Developer Journa...

Name 3 things you want to see in 0.7 (Page 1) — Developer Journals — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Greyfox

DDnet exists like 4years now, there was ddrace before that

DDRace is older than DDNet

I suggest you to forget 0.7

Ddrace died when greyfox disappeared

1. Server auto-join queue when full. 3. User ID system. Seems like a better solution than IP as I have seen from how valve does it in tf2. 2. Grenade bullets collision: when your grenade bullet touch the enemy's grenade bullet, both bullets explode. 1. Better differentiation between vanilla and mods ·Asian Language Support/Input API Support 1. Some enhancement for Vanilla (e.g. maps, weapons or mechanics)

@Gabee teeland? I own teeland.net haha

Which is funny considering it's the official website, and they mention mods

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https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=107879#p107879 look at this guy

User id system wont work, we discussed it here a billion times

@Gabee maybe accounts soon

looking at learath

U are suggesting changes that would break ddnet

more vanilla & less mods -> You should do what players want, not what you want. If you do what you want… people will look for something else -> DDNET

@Lexin this summer maybe (tm) :)

@Ryozuki maybe ddnet should separate from teeworlds

accounts when teeworlds 0.7?

Like basically now?

0.7 doesn't have to improve the gaming experience but can be technical challenges

Teeworlds vanilla is dead, players like more the mods

I've always dreamed of a login system for ALL the servers

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like I go on a race map, I have my score

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I go on a block map I have my blocking score

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and so on

I dont like that

People shouldn't think of the technical challenges but the final experience

Centralization is me

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Meh

I know technically it's gonna be a mess and centralized but this should be considered

i haven't touched the normal tw client in a while, but isn't DDNet a straight up better version than the original

Yes