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@Learath2 gdb?

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debug build of course

the thing is recreating the crash

06:49

when i talked with learath we couldnt find how

06:49

even setting the same tune zone values

it happened on official servers?

06:59

then we should have core dumps

if testservers count as official...

https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9084277

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tunes used in maps

[quakenet] <deen> quite a few negative values, see

we surpassed 400GB of uncompressed teehistorian data yesterday

Apply my fix @heinrich5991

@heinrich5991 is that a new record or what

@Im 'corneum no, it just accumulates more and more data

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I guess we'll have 1.0TB of uncompressed data by february 2019 or so

aah

12:27

is it stored on some of the admins personal harddrives?

yes

yours?

and on @Learath2's and @deen's

so, you guys just constantly have a download going on forever now?

kinda

12:28

couple of times per day

thats kind of funny tbh

12:30

why dont you only save finishes and when you have 1tb full it deletes the oldest recordings (non finish)

because we wanted to be able to accurately replay finishes

teehsitorian sucks

so you want the movements before entring the startline

yes

https://www.amazon.de/Seagate-Desktop-interne-Festplatte-SATA/dp/B005T3GRNW

12:34

thats only 100€ to harddrives per year from now on then

im sure u can get a better deal with some aws services

12:36

amazon sells some super cheap storage as far as i know

https://diskprices.com/

Disk Prices (US)

Comparison of all hard drives on Amazon, sorted by price per GB

12:37

@Im 'corneum I mirror these files across two hard drives, so one can fail. I also have mirrored backups of these files

mirrored means?

the same file is on two hard drives, so if one fails, we still have that file

aah

back when I designed teehistorian, I made a quick estimate of ~1GB/day

[quakenet] <Learath2> on the slight chance that any of you here know physics... could a massless spring conserve mechanical energy? :P

we deemed that acceptable, so that we could buy hard drives faster than we accumulated data

[quakenet] <Learath2> also heinrich5991 my cron apparently failed again...

as i understand mechanical energy. almost everything conserves it

12:41

no wait im confused with potential energy now

[quakenet] <Learath2> yeah but a massless spring can't store any kinetic energy, pull on it with F, you do work F(dx) it gets energy 1/2k(dx)^2, there is 1/2kx_max amount of energy missing

so youre wondering if it would bounce back at all after pulling on it?

[quakenet] <Learath2> it would always bounce back, I'm wondering whether it would keep going after I let go of it (impossible as it cant have any kinetic energy) and also wondering where is the other half of the energy going

there are no massless springs

aah

and there are also no massless cars in the vacuum speeding on the highway

[quakenet] <Learath2> we do assume that in a lot of elementary physics questions

but in physics lessons, we have models

[quakenet] <Learath2> also no massless strings :P

but don't you have a mass attached to the massless spring?

[quakenet] <Learath2> nope

@Learath2's doesn't

i have another question: if i have a stick thats 1 lightyear long and one one end there is a button and i push the other end, didnt i transfer information faster than light?

[quakenet] <Learath2> there is some energy missing and it kinda bothers me, I account it to "A non-real construct does not need to obey to the conservation of energy" but not sure if that's valid

no, because the stick on the other side doesn't move at the same time

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you'd compress the stick instead

[quakenet] <Learath2> say the stick is completely incompressable :)

it can't be incompressable

black hole stick

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[quakenet] <Learath2> the perfect stick, an ideal stick :D

otherwise you'd have faster than light communication

12:49

yea, this is where this model displays inconsistent statements with reality

12:49

like: when we add speeds, it's fine in day-to-day physics

12:49

when we do it on relativistic levels, it's not

[quakenet] <Learath2> I find the laser pointer one much nicer btw, take laser pointer, point it to the moon, with a flick you can move the dot from one end of the moon to the other, what sorcery?

not really i think

12:52

would light, in this lenth, be like a floppy water stream?

[quakenet] <Learath2> not really, light always takes the shortest route

@Learath2 Just an apparent motion, not a real one, like moving a stick diagnoally at c

[quakenet] <Learath2> deen: yeah, still kinda cute that you can actually have sth moving faster then light

you can have things move faster than light in diamond

12:54

it's only 200 000 km/s in there

because light is slower there...

12:55

but in truth the light is same speed, it's just bouncing around, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fSqFWcb4rE is this real?

cameraculturegroup

Laser pulse shooting through a bottle and visualized at a trillion...

yes

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but the trick is to film it millions of times

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and take a photo at different times

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in each filming

wow

[quakenet] <Learath2> actually, they also used reconstruction

so it's not a single light stream you're watching

[quakenet] <Learath2> from what i understood from a paper that's definitely above my understanding of physics that is

couldnt i just use a lot of cameras that are alligned inbetween their fps and make it a one taker. if i somehow manage to make them look through one lense?

i thought their main problem is storing the data quickly enough

12:57

and how do you plan to switch the lens? you have a mirror that's moving faster than light?

[quakenet] <Learath2> they'd need to store around a petabyte of data per second with horrible bitrate, i really think it's mostly reconstructed from the few frames they grab

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[quakenet] <Learath2> physics while fun to discuss, is pretty darn boring to study sadly

most of science is boring

[quakenet] <Learath2> natural sciences yeah I guess not too fun

no, i meant there are a lot of people that say they like science and its so fun. but tbh its just the results of it thats cool. who actually cares how exactly they landed on the moon in detail? (edited)

[quakenet] <Learath2> I'd read that one, what's boring for me is all the memorization for memorizations sake

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[quakenet] <Learath2> especially in biology for example, all you do is memorizing random shit

@Learath2 I guess I was lucky with my "Modern Physics for Computer Scientists". It was more about discussing fun concepts, how they can be used for CS, and not so much math and theory behind

13:08

biology is really cool, but I never remembered the names indeed

I really liked biology in high school but I'm sure it's the reason that I can't remember anything nowadays, it burned my temporal lobe

(I had physics as minor in BS, biology as minor in MS)

Getting Phys1 now :/ I should actually study for that one

https://ds9a.nl/amazing-dna/ See for example

dna is really impressive, they even have a stopcode, it's like someone actually coded it

13:14

funny how nature came to the same conclusion we came to in computer science

and i barely made it through grade 10 and didn't even try a-level.

13:18

why doesn everyone in TW study until age 25

doesn = does or doesn't?

oh. does*

18 when finished with high school, 1 year break, 3 years bachelor, 2 years master = 24

16 when i finished school. started working from then on

13:21

at least i dont work at Mc donalds

Linux nerds play TW because nothing else works on Linux, and they keep studying because they are too lazy to work

they could as well start neet life if they are too lazy

dropping school and starting working can be a deadly mistake if you lose your one job

13:23

employers like diplomas for some reason, even tho they are pointless imho

idk where you live but its not a regular job. you just kind of switch between school and work and after 3.5 years you get your diploma

well, not useless, you prove that you can pick up new topics and study, and end up with some related education that might be relevant for the job

idk if thats a german thing or if every country does it so

and how does that relate to my ability to code in C? I'm yet to learn anything interesting and I doubt the math analysis will be of any use in my future

@Im 'corneum it's quite popular in Germany ("Ausbildung"), and originated in the middle ages in Europe for the city jobs that needed a few years of training

@Im 'corneum now that one sounds useful

@Learath2 In CS there's obviously a disconnect, since most CS people end up in software engineering instead

after i have that diploma i can start the same kind of job at anothe rplace but i dont have to learn it first so i can make real money.

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"real money" its not a lot but its more than only 860€ per month

I'm actually studying CEng, which seems to have even more of a disconnect then usual

disconnect?

13:28

what does it mean?

plug out lan cable and wait

disconnect as in the things we learn at school are not really useful to the jobs we end up doing

ah

@deen pls fix my map GetSpeed2 and delete first rank

GetSpeed2.map

460.51 KB

xd

isnt that snails job

snail lazy

changelog: + added new skips

On my own map?

13:30

lul

xd

I wouldn't put it beyond you

you had a lot of false teleporters on intercepter

@Im 'corneum there wasnt even 1 wrong tele on Intercepter

@snail ^^

@ᶰ°Konͧsti HMH made a tool to detect them and he said your map had a lot of them

On Intercepter are some fake blocks

13:31

for secret rooms

13:31

who cares

i dont trust you

I trust me

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i dont trust botters like u

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lol

i am not a botter

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anymore

once a botter allways a botter

13:34

u r not trustworthy

scaming a admin for fakeranks sure is trustworthy

rule #2 never trust konsti

you idiot didnt even want to pay him @ᶰ°Konͧsti

13:35

what is rule 1

dont bot

never give sp someone rcon

oh

Bad rule

2

are there more inofficial rules like this?

rule #3 never trust snail

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rule #0 trust my rules

zero means it doesnt count

rule 0,5: use zooz

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find me sth to eat for breakfast pls

try toilet paper with cocoa pulver

thanks

@Learath2 i think heinrich was against the change konsti just posted because it uses a glitch

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im not "lazy" i just dont forget things 1 week after they happened @ᶰ°Konͧsti n

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nice try tho

Like dozens of maps using glitches

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is there any chance that someone here used pcsx2 emulator for windows?

i did long time ago

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why?

i bot everyday

i am to retarded to use it. it kind of worked yesterday. but now i changed a bit and nothing works anymore. ffs i only want to play gran tourismo 4 again. feelsbadman

anyway. iam on their forum now.

gran turismo

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good old memories

ikr.

tekken

mmm

fifa street

i have 3 copies of gran tourismo4

budokai

i also got shitload of ps2 games but the ps2 is broken

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yeah. my ps2 can only play a few games anymore and gt4 was the first that wnet down. thats why i bought new copis bcs i hoped its the disc

i got like 2 ps2's that i never use

send

its like fifteen euros here

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XD

14:50

i got them since like 2012

i even have the old logitech wheel with the GT logo. still works great

i remember the game

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rc revenge

all the other games used to work (before i fucked up the emulator) just gt4 didnt and its the only game i care for >.<

gta sa was fun

I preferred gta sa on pc

can some1 open these demos