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Between 2018-04-20 00:00:00Z and 2018-04-21 00:00:00Z
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when is test open servers coming back
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They should be back up now, no idea what happened tho
12:46
Nvm figured it out
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@ZombieToad can you stop it asshat? (edited)
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@Learath2 wtf?
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do you take acting clasS?
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why do you insult me
13:13
your meant to be admin
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so? stop being an edge case and I'll treat you like I treat everyone else
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i havent done anything to insult you
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You waste my time and everyone elses time
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asking when is test servers coming back?
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He has the right to insult you
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we all have
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i dont agree
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cuz sp someonei is like tw devil
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if i called him an asshat i would be kicked
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you did lot of bullshit
13:16
now u get it back
13:16
@ZombieToad yeah you would
13:16
and?
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your all acting immature
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i still remember when you filled the wiki with "deen is gay" in every single page (edited)
13:17
wasting my time also
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ddnet has a wiki?
13:17
dumbass
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I don't kick anyone for insulting me because I have skin thicker then paper...
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i would kick sp for being sp
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you’re not being a good example if you insult others?! very unprofessional
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@jao talking to me?
13:19
im not an admin or a moderator i have no example to set
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no you’re no staff thonkery
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I'm perfectly fine with people insulting malicious people so I have no problem with the example I'm setting
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insulting is always bad
13:22
whether you think the person deserves it or not
13:23
and if you set those standards, people will just make up their own definitions of "malicious people" and can insult anyone
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i am far from being a malicious person
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@jao imagine someone killed ur fathers
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i do not insult anyone or want to
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im sure people would be fine with u insulting the killer
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and you think people would be fine with the government or judges insulting the killer? no they are expected to act professionally
13:25
ofc it is a normal thing that people get mad at others, but if you are in the position of an admin or whatever, you can at least try to hold back your emotions.. (edited)
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We aren't running a government here
13:28
If a judge were sick they wouldn't call him out of his bed to rule on something
13:28
If I have to get out of my cozy bed because you are creating a disturbance don't expect me to treat you with respect
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stop arguing politics the rules are #1 Always be respectful - No rude, offensive, racist, or hateful comments. admins should also follow them
13:30
so next time I can just do whatever I want and say this is "no government"
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if you don't follow #1 don't expect me to follow #1 when attending to matters regarding you
13:31
this is stupid logic
13:31
if you want others to follow your rules, you should firstly follow them yourself
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i do follow rule #1
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and obviously enforce them
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if didnt jao would kick me
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not ignore them once someone missbehaves
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@jao you are arguing that I can call a judge a cunt and he won't curse at me... frankly that isn't the reality, those perfect government officials don't exist except in utopias
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sp didnt start insulting you
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He wasted my time, time after time, He asked for something to be fixed which I happily fixed just to break it
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being admin = wasting your time?
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well.. then you're in the wrong position
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Go take your bike to a bike shop and after they fix it break it in half with an axe, the response you get won't be much different
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yes it will ur paying the bike shop
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I don't think the bike shop would insult you xD
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Then you live in a utopia
13:34
They would use words far less pleasant then asshat for wasting their work
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it's not waste
13:34
you pay them
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If they don't have some special connection to the bike, I doubt they care what happens to it
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Some people actually do take pride in their work
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it's disrespectful
13:38
bottomline don't expect me to be perfect, perfect people don't exist
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I would believe not insulting others is an easy thing to do
13:39
no one expects you to be perfect thonkery
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I'm sorry I keep forgetting that even evil people deserve respect
13:41
@ZombieToad you are an amazing individual, keep doing what you are doing, we all appreciate you wasting our time and I especially enjoy it when I'm sick
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ok then let's change rule #1 to "Always be respectful, unless you think someone is evil" 👍
feelsamazingman 1
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thanks
13:42
will do
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there is no thinking required, intentionally breaking something implicitly makes you evil
13:44
besides that change isn't necessary as it's common sense but I keep forgetting people don't exercise common sense when arguing against others as it weakens their own position
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there are other things that may make you an evil person
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sure, but that one is a given
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and then I can argue that it's my own definition of evil
13:44
and you have to accept it
13:44
so I can insult anyone
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 13:44:56Z
Hello i just want to remember you guys should use troll
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@Learath2 cats intentionally break stuff all the time are they evil?
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They don't know any better, and they don't do it intentionally
13:46
if you bring animals into the play one could argue that they aren't even conscious thus they have no "intents"
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@jao there are things that objectively makes you a bad person in most peoples minds
13:48
Go steal from a charity fund and see how many people think you are a good person
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ye whatever
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 13:48:37Z
@Learath2 could u please stop flame and behave like a ddnet admin? :O
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can you turn back on tune_zone on test servers?
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you just don't realize that any hate is bad as people will think you encourage it (edited)
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i was testing exploits to make ddnet code better
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 13:49:37Z
"Oh responsible guy use insults, where d the problem using insults against others?" GWchadThonkery
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From now on I'm only using a 5-10 word vocab on here, that should please you all
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@ZombieToad no
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@jao I do not think so
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and I find it hypocritical to do something you don't want others to do
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I said I'm completely fine with others insulting objectively malicious people
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while i was on ddnet test servers i discovered that certain tunes cause the server to stop responding @Dev
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@ZombieToad I'm sure that's what happened
13:51
Already looking to fix it
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thx for the report
13:51
👍
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glad i could help improve ddnet
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Thank you for your "collaboration"
13:51
I'd like it if you would refrain from further contributions
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 13:51:58Z
@Learath2 lmfao all the bugs SP fnd help ddnet, if he wouldnt abuse it you would never fix it lol
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we kicked mod(s) for similar behaviour so idc if you personally are okay with it
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti he can report them without causing any disturbance
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 13:52:33Z
As i said
13:52
u lazy guys wouldnt care
13:52
xd
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a not evil person that finds bugs wouldnt exploit them but rather share them secretly with a trusted developer
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i didnt cause any disturbance
13:52
none was using the servers
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You know what? Fix it yourself
13:52
I'm done
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 13:52:58Z
rq
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idk about ddnet but what konsti says is true for my server
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why are we even arguing with sp someone
13:53
ban him
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13:53
and done
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 13:53:12Z
no u
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@noby u didnt met the real sp someone (edited)
13:53
from what i see
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 13:53:45Z
XD
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ofc he did
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who did i meet then :o
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Rafael Fontenelle 2018-04-20 13:54:02Z
This tool "map_version" - does anyone know what is it for, how to use (the CLI, I mean), what does it do and what does it return ? It is available in DDNet sources (src/tools/map_version.ccp) and developed by Magnus Auvinen, probably inherited from Teeworlds...
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 13:54:25Z
noby is just not dumb to deal with SP like a retard
feelsgoodman 1
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i think its the client version that was used to make the map
13:54
or just the map version
13:54
but idk
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i think map version is 04
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@Rafael Fontenelle iirc it returned the data version of the map
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Rafael Fontenelle 2018-04-20 13:55:31Z
I saw its sources, but I'm unable to read it (https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/tools/map_version.cpp)
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i think ddnet map format is diferent
13:56
or has additions
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We didn't touch the map format iirc
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We have the tune zone data in the compressed data region
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and the map cfg also
13:59
Thank you all for ruining my day, now I feel like splitting my laptop in half
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troll 2
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ChillerDragon 2018-04-20 14:00:25Z
? ._.
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:00:49Z
GWmythiFeelsBadMan
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@Learath2 hey! you may have your day ruined but u must respect the evil people!
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ChillerDragon 2018-04-20 14:01:30Z
restecpt!
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:01:56Z
@Ryozuki respect espania government danAmazing danAmazing
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Yes I've learned my lesson
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spanish goverment is nazi
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i respect pedophiles
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i will insult them every day
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:02:18Z
troll
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it felt very pleasant to do so in front of the police
14:02
spanish fascsits
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I'm pretty sure @jao would argue the world is flat if I said it's spherical
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:03:11Z
Admin help, Ryozuki is a rebel
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@Learath2 also that homeopathy works
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ChillerDragon 2018-04-20 14:03:20Z
xd
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you want fight?
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What do you people have against me anyways? I'm pretty pleasant
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ChillerDragon 2018-04-20 14:03:30Z
lul jao is a gril
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:03:37Z
no u are not
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FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:03:47Z
danAmazing
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no jao, we are civilized people that even respect bad people
14:04
how u dare talking about fighting
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I even renamed larejn just to be fair
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we must make gifts to ddnet ddosers and respect them
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rip larejn 😦
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we also should praise vali
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:04:51Z
I wonder why SP is way more clever than all the people with colored names here GWchadThonkery
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@Jesus Christ where is he anyways?
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he plays nostale 24/7
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@Learath2 i saw larejn playing 4 days ago
GWfroggertFakeNews 1
14:05
under another name
GWfroggertFakeNews 1
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti hive mind, SP is merely an idea, it's the combination of a thousand trolls spending their entire time trying to make our lives a little worse
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not fakenews
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AerToX is his new name
14:06
he speaks kurwalanguage
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@Jesus Christ what is a nostale?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:06:18Z
@Learath2 and because u complain he know it works and he wont stop
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a game
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now you are also racist
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14:06
nice
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@ᶰ°Konͧsti don't feed the trolls and all but that doesn't work either
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@jao me? every single polish friend i know laughs at that
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:07:17Z
Why does it work for noby
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jao, u make fun of poland aswell wtf (edited)
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danAmazing 3
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and every troll you insult laughs at it too
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e.g Soreu
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@Jesus Christ never
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didn't u want to stop being moderator @jao ?
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:09:55Z
danAmazing
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the best way i found for dealing with sp is adding a triggerbot detector and letting people esc->players->mute to solve any other problem
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I don't want to support a mod team with learath as admin 😦
GWchadThonkery 1
thonkery 1
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no point banning or getting angry
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learath2 does very good at administrating actually
GWfroggertFakeNews 1
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heinrich doesnt administer at all, he just codes
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:11:08Z
GWfroggertFakeNews
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but he is a admin anyway
14:11
why is this dumb emoji here
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 14:11:26Z
danAmazing troll
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I told u he doesn't like me, no idea why
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I don't even think I said no to anything he asked 😛
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what emoji
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oh konsti god nitro discord
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pays to troll
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lmao
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he doesn't tho
14:13
just global emojis
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its the fake news emoji
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@Ryozuki could you fix the tune_zone thing?
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what is the bug?
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@Deleted User you are pretty good with C++ right?
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mh, i wouldnt say so
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i know the things i need
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could you take a look at gamecore.cpp:L19 is that really just hoping the compiler aligns everything properly or is there something in the standard that guarantees it?
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well the preprocessor will just replace it
15:21
an array to some const string pointers, that are generated in compile time
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that's not line 19
15:23
L19 casts (CTuningParams *) to a (CTuneParam *)
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oh read 9 xd
15:25
yeah strange
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I was pretty sure classes in C++ had some runtime stuff at the beginning that wouldn't allow something like this
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gimmi a second im not so well with the server code(ddnet code) (edited)
15:26
should work indeed
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because there is no vtable or something created
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since only the ctuneparam class matters it's always 4 bytes
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you mean like warnings
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that these classes aren't compatible?
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nah, I didn't think we used such hacks
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only way this wouldn't be a hack is if it were guaranteed by the standard but I doubt it
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i think empty classes are made for this
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so it's ok
15:33
still hacky tho
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it also assumes m_Value will be the first member of CTuneParam and then sets it to a float?
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@heinrich5991 could you take a look when you are around? I don't think I understand how that works at all...
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the operator is overloaded
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thats fine
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oh yeah true
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"Fixes" a "crash" when velocity tunes are set to insane values
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@Learath2 you should ask @Im 'corneum for the tune zone values
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he is a map magician
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from what i remember
16:29
vasten maps also used tune zones
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upndown etc
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I just wrote these as filler will need to determine the actual values
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 16:55:19Z
@Ryozuki
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lmfao
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i dont pay for online shit
16:55
except ddnet ranks troll
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ᶰ°Konͧsti 2018-04-20 16:55:58Z
Its just discord server with global emotes :O Im in about 30
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