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Between 2018-04-03 00:00:00Z and 2018-04-04 00:00:00Z

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1086 Provide more controlable command for dummy

08:10

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

c976e6d Provide more controlable command for dummy - QingGo 06143eb Register more controlable command for dummy - QingGo b3a8cef Merge pull request #1086 from QingGo/patch-1 - def-

08:12

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1081 New buffer system and text renderer to support buffering of hud, text and map components, that are displayed ingame

08:15

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1072 Add broadcast importance (fixes #669)

08:15

[ddnet:master] 6 new commits

052e67c Add broadcast importance (fixes #669) - ChillerDragon ab28767 Make broadcast importance delay configurable - ChillerDragon 8d1e60d Fix code style - ChillerDragon cc70628 Static broadcast delay (10 sec) - ChillerDragon 74ecdea Add assert on unimportant broadcasts to all players - ChillerDragon 256845c Merge pull request #1072 from ChillerDragon/Broadcasts - def-

08:15

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #669 Broadcast timer overwrites other broadcasts

08:15

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #897 Implemented a threadsafe queue using C++11

08:21

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1000 Add /modhelp chat command

08:21

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

79fedff add /modhelp chat command - Ryozuki f8a00ad Merge pull request #1000 from Ryozuki/pr_modhelp_chat_cmd - def-

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[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

5a53e4c Fix compilation - def-

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[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

43bb77a Version 11.1 - def-

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[ddnet/ddnet] New tag created: 11.1

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[ddnet:11.1] 0 new commit

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #880 Jekyll clip

@deleted-role help @GitHub is spamming

@noby you should use /modhelp

/modhelp

08:32

HMM

it was a joke

/modhelp deen

deen cleans github

08:33

winter sale

lmao i didnt read the spam

08:34

i get it now

@deen do we have a way of getting data out of the server? Like fifo for the other way

inotail -f $LOG

guess that might work

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/master/servers/scripts/tron.sh

ddnet/ddnet-scripts

ddnet-scripts - The magic scripts that make DDNet run

08:36

Can't get much hackier than that

08:37

Want to do /modhelp properly

Hm, then better find a less hacky way

08:46

/home/deen/git/osxcross/target/bin/x86_64-apple-darwin15-ld: error while loading shared libraries: libLTO.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

08:46

Looks like I have to rebuild the cross-compiler for mac

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

5e51cc8 Version 11.1 - def-

New version \o/

has this version tele weapon?

Nope

when

Ryozuki still wanted to work on that I think

10:00

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1075

Add Teleportation gun/grenade/rifle by Ryozuki · Pull Request #10...

This PR is like the second version of #677 but better of course. Features: Teleport gun: Teleports you where it collided (tees included, in a special way). Doesn't teleport if the collided til...

10:01

If this is done, remind me and I'll release a new version immediately

@heinrich5991 does cmake on windows always fetch gtest?

Pulsar: jao, say someone in dev that chat message color is fucked with opengl renderer being off

@Deleted User ^^

I still can't use any ddnet version above 10.8.6

(edited)

xD

yeah without opengl the chat is fucked up

12:37

no gl no visual

@Deleted User fixable?

i dont even understand what happens

12:38

are they under linux?

probably windows

i am under windows and have no problems

different gpu

12:39

?

unlukily

12:40

i doubt its anything gpu related

12:40

more freetype related

Well, we should have same freetype version for all, right?

but i dunno what version i have

12:41

i downloaded newest sdl and freetpye some day

12:42

no problems with the official built from ddnet.tw either

12:43

lemme check 32 bit

12:43

still ok

12:44

maybe a clean install solves it?

12:47

ah the problem from pulsar... that is strange

12:48

might be opengl related, would be nice if he gives a bit more information

12:51

amd driver magic, i swear

@deen dafuq is 11.1 :((((

12:51

the font is big and symbols are different (bigger, uglier)

12:51

what happened

12:52

i liked the 11.0.3

fokkunaut u always cry about anything

no

12:52

i just want to know what happened because the old was better

where is it uglier? XD

icons are bigger, blurrier, its different and idk my feeling is that this is ugly

icons ok, but not the text?

12:53

that should be better or atleast around the same

no the text is kind of bigger

12:53

i find the old version nicer

i still dont get why the text was touched at all

me too

12:54

it was really good

12:54

was

really good?

because now the ingame chat is insanly much faster

is it the l I problem?

the chinese/japanese font finally works

thats great

but

excuse me but when have you last coded anything more then a calculator to be able to judge the state of the text rendering?

xDDDDD

who are you talking to @Learath2 ?

@fokkonaut obviously

aliens told him it was perfect

YES

sure u can feel it

12:55

for me all was right

for me too

but i didnt test the chines and japaense

12:56

if it wasnt working that sux

he keeps coming here talking shit about everything we do, yet he has no idea about the state of anything

maybe tell us in curious too

@Learath2 im sorry but thats wrong. i just told that i dont like it because i find it ugly and i liked the old version more and i dont understand why u made it. thats all

just switch to japanese and you'll see how great the old code was, we've been talking about it for weeks here

well you're right that the text might looks a bit different, but the font sizes are much more accurate now, that should make the text more sharp in many cases the alignment might be broken sometimes, i can't test everything for every resolution, just post screens if something is totally out of place and then i can fix them

you like the old version of everything more is my issue here

12:58

it literally took seconds to render the scoreboard with japanese

how many japanese players are there

yeah the populist argument again

thats not even the point

12:59

it saves alot of CPU and GPU time

12:59

even for the EU font

it was shitty text rendering, it was a performance hog, and it didn't work for all fonts

@Learath2 cant we just have the old one with an option...

12:59

maybe not even an option in the settings, only via f1

no we can't maintain two versions of textrendering

maybe @Deleted User knows a way but I doubt he'll want to pollute the codebase either

13:00

tell us what feels wrong and we might find you a way to make it look better

13:00

can't go off feelings

the problem is, for all streamed text there is no difference than the text alignment

13:00

so basically i just don't see your problem xD

13:01

console / server list

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the text itself should look 90% same

13:01

except the position in some cases as i said

i will show screenshots, sec

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just need to downlaod the old version again

@jao maybe we finally get more players if chinese and japanese start teeworlds because the text finally works for them

i think its impressive what teeworlds became and thats only because of the admins/devs/mods here, so we should just be happy that teeworlds did not died yet because of them and not whine about text fonts lirikTHINK

lirikTHINK

lirikS

lirikH

but dont come with the icons

13:02

they are different obviously xD

@Meekrioz true but teeworlds was very stable and had no bugs what so ever but latley ddnet client updates cause a lot of trouble

13:03

atleast for me

@ChillerDragon i doubt there are so few asian players because of the text rendering

i hope you are false @jao

13:03

still hoping for a new player wave

and these troubles can be fixed, but changing something to look slightly different is not a trouble

13:04

or what troubles do you have?

the screens i saw in #general looked bad

13:04

but i didnt update for a long time

13:04

because my troubles with the newer versions are client crashes

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and i cant risk these

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these are the good old

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dont mind the gay color

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these are the new i dont like

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(look at icons especially)

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or the text in the ingame ESC menu

am i blind or does it looks almost the same? lirikLUL

lirikLUL

xD

Yeah I'm pretty sure if I mixed those up he'dnt be able to pick out the bad ones if not for the icons

i will be^^

13:07

do some screens on ur own i will tell whats the new and whats the old

but srsly fokkonaut, the font size is just correct now, that makes the text a bit more fat

13:07

it doesnt look worse or blurry

but thats the point

13:08

i really liked the old one

13:08

because all other clients have this

13:08

and ddnet had the "skinny" text

the effect is so small

no other client I know of has fixed text

13:08

maybe ATH has it fixed

its just for japanese support, right?

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or "its saving lot of gpu and cpu". ok. then create 2 ddnet versions. one with the NEW variant and one with the old

13:10

people with really bad pc or japaneses can use the new variant

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and all others just can decide what they like more

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because i would definitely choose the old version

as @Learath2 said they cant do a 2 font client

2 clients

play 5 days, and you forgot the old version

._.

It's a performance fix, it's here to stay, we can tweak it sure but we'll be rendering text like this from now on

it doenst improve my fps

text does look a little more squished if that's what you mean but that's the way it's supposed to be rendered

13:13

It improves a lot of peoples performance and makes text rendering delays nearly non existent

@fokkonaut spam chat on local server

13:13

and test with old client new

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you should see an insane performance improvement

maybe we can tweak the font weight

with opengl3 it even buffers things, so there is basically no performance loose

opengl3 is cool for the zooz

but too HD for you i know

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turns your PC into 4k

xDDDDDDDD

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ye

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but i got used to it AND THATS NO ARGUMENT FOR THE NEW TEXT!!

fokknaut, you can stay with the old version?

maybe I can write you a client that renders everything in asciiart

Kero, sure. but there will be new features

and?

i want em

13:15

?

it is a new feature xD

copy graphic?

or @Deleted User can just apply a gaussian blur over everything for you

@fokkonaut are you really bitching about a font right now?

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lirikS

yeah fokkonaut, i bet there are some screen tools for windows

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that make your full screen blury

13:16

good idea

why are we making everything "good and perfect" if it was better looking the old way

render everything at half resolution, upscale it back to original, bicubic interpolation is really good at making things inaccurate

strive for perfection

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lirikSMART

it wasn't looking better the old way, you were just used to the old way

thats why it looked better

well i like the new text rendering more, i see a huge difference for big font sizes with 2k screen

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like the "Connection Problems" looks like 8k now xD

13:18

4D 8k

so we should render text in a way that's less performant so you don't have to get used to something new that you'll forget about after a couple hours of gameplay?

exactly

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the "performance improvement" isnt noticeable

it is for people using CJK

if someone will every update the GUI some day, he most likely will like to have every text be rendered from a specific coordinate

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and that is what the new renderer does "a bit" already

and people with worse computers, and no we don't have the time to maintain 50 different versions of the client because someone doesn't like a feature we add

it's deterministic and doesn't rely on the bitmap metrics

which font is the one we have in the client?

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DejaVuSansCJKName?

yes

13:21

dont tell me your os renderes it cleaner

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MS uses ClearType

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ofc that looks even better

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theoretically we can even aply such things in the shader

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but not for the old renderer

and no we don't have the engineering team to r&d a complete text renderer that competes with ClearType

(edited)

freetype even has cleartype support, but i bet you don't use a LED screen, but some old 1920 black and white monitors

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and then it wont help xD

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no but srsly fokkonaut, if you see text is rendered too high or too deep, yes that needs to be fixed, the current GUI was sometimes just fixed to work

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not to be mathematically precise or something

ok

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but why are the symbols different (edited)

because i wanted to try something new

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the search in adress bar

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looks much better imo

i still dont know what exclude is for

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but nvm

basically search everything except that

ahh

13:26

ok

like if you dont want ddnet servers type in DDNet

that is cool

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what if i use another font file?

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will it then be normal

nope, the icon font overwrites letters basically, so a "A" gets some icon instead XD

but for the default font

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if i change that

the normal font is still the same

if i change that

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i already tried out another font

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it worked, but ofc its still not the same as before.

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do i really need to get used to this now

stay with an older client

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yes thats what happens but updates can be usefull

time isnt centered

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since vanilla and older clients wont work with new computers and high dpi screens

then just get used to the new style xd

and the crashbugs?

what

it sucks if you loose hours of mapping

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new clients come with crashbugs for me

no one said something about bugs xd

i did

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im talking about broken updates in general

@ChillerDragon CTRL+S every minute like me

imo we should test the stuff on every operating system and setup or add a testy realse and a stable one

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even wores @fokkonaut

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i once lost a whole map

yeah fokkonaut just collect what you find, then i can fix such things in one go

We do our best to weed out any bugs but we cant try it on everything

1 year of work

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because it crashed during saving

ah

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ok

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sory

there was a beta thing for the opengl stuff and no one tested it

i did the same

so yeah lol

i tested it @jao

we don't even have everything, we have to release at some point

@jao you are not everyone

@Learath2 it is defnelty know that there is some buggy stuff going one since some versions we should exclude it to a testy build

well it came with a lot bugs despite the testing phase

@ChillerDragon ddnet 10 was a horrible start but now i think its good. but 11 introduces new bugs^^

I don't know of any bugs that cause a crash except for one mac bug that crashes on startup and one that crashes on shutdown on linux

well system isnt threadsafe

mac isnt working at all

since ever

i have only 1 compuzter that can run teeworlds

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and it uses windows

so every client is a potential risk

XDDDDD

and there i have crashbugs

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teeworlds doesnt work on my 2 win laptop or my ubuntu laptor nor on y 2 macbooks

We didn't have a mac until a couple weeks ago

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I'm sorry I couldn't test it on a setup I don't have with a bug report that consists of "It crashes"

@Learath2 https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6382

@Deleted User u say japanese etc work?

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モカツ why they are not working

What are not?

the symbols arent working

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ingame

swtich language to japanese

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then it should

'Cause someone can't code good

we don't have cjk loaded when a non cjk language is used?

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that should probably be fixed if that's the case

well that is the sense of the other font right?

13:39

because not all kanji/japanese letters are supported

thanks i just tested font and got banned from infclass

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how can i even debug on windows?

cant

TOTALLY MY FAULT XD

wtf

yeah totally our fault that infclass was stupid enough to ban clients based on heuristics

as i said switch to japanese

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they sohuld work there

heuristics? whats that

there is no way to detect cheat clients perfectly, so they are using some signs, e.g. sending an impossible character or a non used flag

so swithc to japanese now fokkonaut then it even works in f1

there was an modertaor online

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it wasnt a detection

try it before u say it doesnt work all the time now

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bcs the moderator cant see the ltters either

then the moderator is also stupid...

because these letters arent in the font file

@Deleted User i see its working but if only japaneses can see its stupid, isnt it?

depends

13:43

why do you need to write japanese in europe

why not

you can look for fonts that support both character sets

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but often they render some letters different and thats something u totally dislike

@Deleted User couldn't we have both fonts loaded at the same time? Shouldn't matter that much

yes, but do you want to determine what font should be used at what point?

i have no problems with new version (tested on linux for now only)

If the letter isn't in one font use the other?

that would require splitting text

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like latin letters than some chinese, latin again

oh yeah that would be meh

is there no dejavu sens with better asian letter support

maybe we could use the merged font

yeah that would be the best

but the debian guy actually wanted us to use system fonts

absolutly no reason

guess it's okay this way

since when does a game rely on a system font especially if its cross plattform

y, I don't understand what he was thinking either

When not using OpenGL 3.3 Standard chat messages become mono-font since updating.

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*mono color

mhh, you the second one having trouble with colors

@Learath2 you know what is the gameuuid?

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i'm making the changelog

@Ryozuki in the db?

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/bc11fc2a3540146568c8cff622097733e871a23e

Add GameUuid to teamscore aswell · ddnet/ddnet@bc11fc2

Also get GameUuid through an interface.

i indeed changed the vertex upload for the old render, but i never thought that there are GPU drivers that are so broken

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because opengl1.x is like 2000 years old

@Ryozuki it associates ranks to teehistorian files

i guess its not relevant?

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for changelog

@CptDalv does it also break every color else

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or just the chat

@Deleted User you think the color issue is because of drivers?

Just took a look at the chat for now

this one guy sounded like his color is totally broken

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@Ryozuki guess not, you could write "Better integration of teehistorian files" if you have to write sth for it

ok, thanks

@CptDalv you mean that its grey instead of white?

Yep

so it's not your settings?

Settings are default

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Only the chat so far

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But name mentionings are gray too

i see

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yeah probably because i update all color

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aslong its only this its not hard to fix

how did that even?

@jao "Pulsar: jao, say someone in dev that chat message color is fucked with opengl renderer being off"

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does he mean this issue, can you ask him?

press ctrl+z then its fixed

@Learath2 i buffer everything even for the old render, so no CPU time is wastet tehre too and i dont need to manage so much code

@Deleted User yeah but I don't see how the color gets lost along the way

well maybe i forgot to change it completly

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the new renderer takes the color as parameter

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the old just sets "global" color

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see that are bugs i just oversee, and nobody tested it before it was merged

oh, yeah true

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It worked just fine when I tested tho

but not with gl3 off

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its indeed grey for normal text

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since its not resettet to white again

keep forgetting to test stuff with gl3 off,

??????

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i upgraded to 11.1 then i grabbed the exe from 11.0.3 again and now this

you broke it

xD

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shit

because the shaders arent the same

ok where can i replace them

u need to copy them from /data/shaders

ok

I still feel the shaders belong somewhere else

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people keep forgetting them

better use a sandbox to test ddnet11 maleware @fokkonaut

xD

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thanks btw @Deleted User

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worked

np i like to share malware but psht

you are the malware

ikr

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nohate btw i love that you do soemntinh

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especially no hate to you @Deleted User

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #42 add changelog

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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #42 add changelog

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[ddnet-web:master] 2 new commits

ebaf00f add changelog - Ryozuki f96c4da Merge pull request #42 from Ryozuki/patch-4 - def-

Heh my github interface completely broke when I clicked merge on that

Because I was fasteR?

yeah

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that wasnt a short changelog :o

what are the new dummy things?

https://ddnet.tw/downloads/ ^^

cant seem to get them to work

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1086

Provide more controlable command for dummy by QingGo · Pull Requ...

I register some new command, which are cl_control_dummy, cl_dummy_jump, cl_dummy_fire and cl_dummy_hook, to make dummy more controlable. if i want to contol my dummy to jump, first, press f1 in ga...

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read there

its a bot

you can make the dummy jump without controling it i guess

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coradax will be even more pro with dummy now

ddnet has cheats in the client, ban

2

there is something wrong

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cl_dummy_fire makes him hook

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and the cl_dummy_hook isnt even in the game

its a bot f3

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xD?

haha

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yea

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he named them wrong

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sec i make a lil pr fixing it

why you want to make dummies more powerful?

because depression is a serious issue

^

for play offline

wat

i think the new dummy stuff is not very useful but nvm

ye im depressed. i will kill mysefl if jao doesnt test me maps. its in your hand. you dont want to kioll a person rioght

dummy hookflybot when?

noby right now (edited)

rly?

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lol

there is a cl_dummy_hook

:O

win-win, i don't have to test your maps and you die

can soemone come test that on my server

it lets the dummy hook on a key press

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@noby ok

i used to always ask people to use ddnet persian for this

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but if ddnet has it then no need xd

@jao people dying is a joke until it happens

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1094 fix command typo

then it becomes really unfunny, really quick

ye someone will kill himself because he can't play a co-op game alone

as said, it's funny until it happens

its funny after it happened

bluestripe

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the shit wont work

idk, ask QingGo

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he made that feature

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cl_dummy_fire is bugged due to 2 macros with that

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and cl_dummy_hook doesnt exist

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he made a typo

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i fixed it in the pr

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idk if that fixes all tho

u cant hookfly better because u cant make him walk, still need to use hammer toggle

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@Ryozuki for me the hwole thing is useless

ok?

Suicide is definitely off-topic in #developer

i didnt say anything about it being useful or not

you started it xd

i tried to get him to test the hookflybot and it was just hooking straight up into the air

@Ryozuki what do u want to use the hook and jump things for

i dont care

I just wanted to point out that one can't always foresee the consequences of their words

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@fokkonaut the guy who made it seems to be able to pull off some nice stuff with it, ask him

[ddnet/ddnet] New branch created: staging.tmp

why does the test look so different in the new version

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text*

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1095 Change the wrong translation of Simplified Chinese

“Manual” here should be translated to “手动” or "手动录制" but not "手册"。

I'm building ddnet for mac inside a docker container inside a vagrant machine running debian on a mac

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1095 Change the wrong translation of Simplified Chinese

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[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

db75df4 Change the wrong translation of Simplified Chinese - David-U-Tang

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/b3a8cef27410e5042b64fa4ec70756cba9b00c03

Merge pull request #1086 from QingGo/patch-1 · ddnet/ddnet@b3a8cef

Provide more controlable command for dummy

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woot

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we have ultra dummys now?

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thats awesome

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men i want this new client

@deen did you ever get osxcross working?

i thought such things would be to over powered

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didnt Cellegen suggest it sometime and deen rejected it?

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what ever i love this feature f3 for op dummys

op? you can hook, fire and jump without switching, not that much better

it is great

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u can play 2 player on one mnachine

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like old browser games

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you can learn to use wasd and arrow keys at the same time to betetr crontrol ur dummy

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it is super usefull to combine the hook with the hamemrfly aimbot

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@heinrich5991 || @deen https://hastebin.com/itumexehok.go have either of you encountered this?

wtf is hastebin

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pastebin for heros?

it's one of the random pastebin sites I rotate through daily

xd

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did u choose the filename

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itumexehok.go

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?

hastebin is cleaner

https://paste.pr0.tips/mY

it is very clean

actually I prefer this one

and has sexy syntax highlight

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but raw pastebin is cleaner than hastebin

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yea

14:58

it has no html what so ever

14:58

thats great

14:59

yo as we started to make dummys op af

can add ?c for C syntax hiliting

could we implemented the hammerfly mode which aims at the closest tee

14:59

i missed it alot while hammerflying inbig teams and someone took my dummy and i had a different partner

15:00

the noermal hammerfly mode can be used to hammerfly with to helicopters seperatly if you are above your dummy

15:00

but thats not always the case

15:00

ikr it would be a full bot then with aim at closest and then you could pause ayour dummy and run around with hammerfly closest and hook and shot all

15:01

but maybe there is some protection possible

15:03

@Deleted User just tried the new client

15:03

it feels like the menue got a lot sharper

15:03

is this possible?

possibly

added some sort of 4k support?

15:04

i love the new fonts ❤

15:04

it also has some sounds agian

15:04

ill give this client a new try until it crashes

15:06

uhm how can i update my fork?

15:06

or wait i have no running prs i can delete it and refork

15:07

ty to deens cleanup c:

refork?

15:12

just git fetch ddnet && git checkout master && git reset --hard ddnet/master && git push origin master (edited)

#general

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1096 Fix cl_dummy_hook and description consistency

@Learath2 ah great so this kills my master and gets a new master but all my branches stay alive

15:16

can we pin this ? @jao

you should always keep your master up to date with ours anyways

yes i do that by deleting my fork

15:16

in settings

15:17

and sometimes i accidentally delete other repos of mine

That's a brutal way of doing that

great huh?

15:17

but since im using branches and try to get git god

15:17

it would be cool to keep these branches alive

15:18

btw i didnt understand how the new op dummy stuff works yet

15:18

there is this hook bug i fixed in my pr but still i cant get it running

15:23

gosh git is tricky i cant delet my failed branch

15:24

if i create a branch while i checkedout another one i create a branch in a branch am i right?

15:24

it gets messy then in pullrequest i guess

its ez

15:33

@ChillerDragon cl_dummy_control 1

15:33

then

15:33

u can use the otherts

i did

15:33

and its control_dummy

15:33

ill fix that xd

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1097 Stick to naming convention (Dummy first to find all dummy commands)

Just type dummy in teeworlds console and autocomplete or command suggestions list all dummy commands :3

did it work or didn tu test it @fokkonaut ?

"fireing"

15:35

?

he said jumping

15:35

and fire

firing

15:35

?

ah fuk

15:35

sec

15:35

xd

i tested

15:35

sure it works

15:35

but its not usefull imo

15:35

not that*

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1094 fix command typo

15:36

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

722b003 fix command typo - Ryozuki 74bb444 Merge pull request #1094 from Ryozuki/patch-2 - def-

15:36

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1096 Fix cl_dummy_hook and description consistency

There we agree, bors is stupid

yea

why closed .-.

can u remind me while we still use it?

[ddnet/ddnet] New branch created: staging.tmp

@ChillerDragon read xD

i fixed firing

15:37

.-.

just make a new pr

15:37

i guess

nah u already stole it

15:37

its gg

i did it long before

15:37

i guess u didnt see the pr xD

woot

15:38

im blind i guess

@heinrich5991 likes it, and it's a good idea, just badly executed

@ChillerDragon but i didnt fix the description

15:38

you can do it

"whether can you control" is that correct english?

i updated it in the closed pr branch

no it's not

but i wont touch the spacy english

15:38

i even faiul fireing

15:38

xd

fire doesnt work

15:39

fire is hook and hook is gone

15:39

xD

i think there will be a new hotfix soon, when all this is fixed

ye thats what we are fixing atm

15:40

@fokkonaut

15:41

Embedded image

15:41

btw

15:41

this featch command seems to be broken

@deen could you give the docker build a go?

15:43

@ChillerDragon you need to replace ddnet with the name of the ddnet remote

You mean I should implement it?

?

15:43

what is a ddnet remote?

or try the one you made?

@ChillerDragon git remote add ddnet https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet.git

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1098 Some text related fixes (color, positining)

I'd say keep the pr open a few days, so i can fix all the problems the players will collect.

ah

@deen try the one I made I mean, just added osx aswell

oh, great

15:45

@Deleted User can we remove the font without Chinese now so that we can read CJK even when not using CJK languages?

15:46

See also https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/1093

integrate fc-config · Issue #1093 · ddnet/ddnet

DDNet is now part of Debian packages http://packages.debian.org/sid/ddnet . I'd like to thank you all for your contributions. Currently date includes two font files, which is not preferred by t...

yeah sry i have no plan what his idea is

But the Chinese font looks worse tbh

yeah and some characters aren't rendered really good

He wants a configurable system font I think

yeah but why should we

couldn't we merge the CJK glyphs into the main font?

For Debian/Ubuntu

what gain does that give anyone

@Learath2 yes, that would be great, but my understanding is that that's whatWenQuanYi actually is

15:47

@Deleted User comic sans in ddnet client obv

15:48

and smaller releases

15:48

since font is largest part of client

huh, so how does the chinese font look different?

more squished together

some kerning issue?

maybe they just use a different kind of dejavusans as base

maybe we can do the merge ourselves

I'm wondering what the best practices are btw

15:49

Shouldn't we try DejaVuSans if available, otherwise some other fonts to get CJK?

well ofc the chinese font file is the biggest

15:49

that won't change alot if we merge them

But we can use the system font

so you want to remove the font files for debian packages completly?

games do nearly always include their own fonts tho, no?

ah lol the bors exploit doesnt work .-.

Yes, just like we remove shared libs

15:50

@Learath2 i don't know!

@deen oop i killed the bors xd

I've never encountered a game that had different font on different OS

15:51

@ChillerDragon gj

well @Learath2 is true, many software not only games do that, but text editors or things like that obviously not (edited)

WenQuanYi looks so old, no updates for years

ikr @Learath2 atleast we know bors is save now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droid_fonts#Typefaces

Droid is a font family first released in 2007 and created by Ascender Corporation for use by the Open Handset Alliance platform Android and licensed under the Apache License. The fonts are intended for use on the small screens of mobile handsets ...

15:52

We could try using Droid instead

yeah

talking about fonts, did you see the steam survey?

15:53

50% of players on steam use Chinese as language

that's what I was thinking, wanna try and see what it looks like?

woot?

15:53

where can i see it

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

ah its general

15:53

non teewoods releated

15:53

ye chinease is a big player base

love the steam surveys, always gives you a nice median

there is a lot potential for teeworlds

But I don't like shipping 5-10 MB fonts

mh if i remember correctly i saw a reddit post that some company is the fault for the insane chinese boom suddenly

Sure, some chinese farms

15:55

for selling items/accounts

Suggestion: We have the RESET button for everything where you can change color (laser, chatmessgaes..) why dont we have it for the UI color in Graphics too? would be nice to add that

2

1

Modern Android seems to use Roboto for non-CJK plus Noto for CJK

@deen hmm, we should check other games but there aren't many games on linux that are installed through a package manager

15:57

openarena maybe but I'm sure that uses font-config

So we should also use font-config, having a customizable font

15:57

and the version we release on ddnet.tw includes one font

15:57

as the default

how would we let people who get it through the package manager get the font?

Well, we'd use a standard font ideally

15:58

so they can apt-get install roboto

oh yeah, that should work

alternatively make a separate ddnet-font package

15:59

@Deleted User i don't notice any lags with chinese, good job

we'll see on your 10000 years old AMD gpu XD

16:04

with mesa drivers, that software render 50% of unsupported things

Doesn't matter

hey mesa ppl are doing their very best, no h8

yeah mesa is awesome

[ddnet/ddnet] New branch created: staging.tmp

16:06

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

905f4d6 Update settingscommands - def-

16:12

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

07460ed cl_control_dummy -> cl_dummy_control - def-

16:12

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1097 Stick to naming convention (Dummy first to find all dummy commands)

@deen ouch xd

Bors doesn't like me

Hi guys

Or the merge failed, dunno

@deen as i said my exploit failed

hi Snaier

@deen it's appveyor, they are swamped

i pushed something while bors was merging

How are u?

Good, you?

my NamING commit was a bors test and it was pushed after u bors+ed

@ChillerDragon hello

yo @Snaier

@deen perfect

could u pls bors+ it agian ? c: @deen should work now

@Deleted User "we'll see on your 10000 years old AMD gpu XD" why? :o

16:15

ddnet is in the debian curl transition :o https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/curl.html

@deen how would you feel about some kind of management interface for ddnet servers? I don't see any other nice way of getting data out in an organised way, would also help with #1074

@Ryozuki its an insider (edited)

@Learath2 like econ?

yeah but with econ we need to parse output meant for humans

@ChillerDragon sorry, I remade your change

16:16

@Learath2 json-econ

fok u deen .-.

@Ryozuki because my old computer has a 13 year old amd gpu that used to cost 15 € and I found in the garbage somewhere

I'd prolly generalise all the console output actually, add a way of requesting everything machine readable

which had problems with opengl3 because of bad linux drivers

ahh

also econ output is intertwined :/

@Learath2 doesn't sound bad to have a json interface to server, on what protocol?

i bet it didnt had bad drivers

16:19

that's why i want to know if its better now

it has bad drivers, even terminals render slowly

I mean whatever console output is generated CCommandOutput and use CCommandOutput:::ToHuman() and CCommandOutput:::ToJSON()

16:20

huh, I thought radeon was pretty good with old GPU's

and then write it to logfile?

i got no probs with amd, but my gpu is from 2015

Then output human or json to the logfile, and let the ?con user decide which output format he/she/it wants

ok

well i feel like amd makes a bad driver right before they stop developping driver for a GPU, modern AMD gpus are pretty good, but older are extremly buggy always

@Learath2 want to have a websockets interface to get data too?

output json; status to get the player list out of econ maybe

@Ryozuki huh, why are we using curl 3 and not 4?

@deen what for?

@Learath2 as another econ interface, so people can write funny javascript webservices to access data from ddnet servers

deen

(edited)

:o i don't know

16:23

lets update it? xD

@Ryozuki that sounds like a problem with the Debian package, locally I run DDNet with curl 7 without problems

we can't expose econ to the public, it's not set-up for it

too bad

oh

16:24

make a ddnet api

16:24

i like apis

that's what I was thinking of

Hi @SkyHDTV

A ddnet API connected to all the servers via econ or some other protocol yet to be invented

hi

yeah, that's good @Learath2

16:25

so people can easily spy on who's online where

you could use the api on the client too

or get notified of new ranks

sounds cool

I'm failing to imagine the protocol tho

econ has sync issues and it's output would be to hacky to parse, would be very tiresome to rework the console output (would entail some serialization work), tailing the logs is just nope

16:28

this is where modern languages excel, reflection really makes serialisation a breeze

just wait for c++2ß

16:28

20

does it have reflection now?

i think it was planned

16:29

or 22, not sure

i would also implement a per-server http api, so you can easy know server info without implementing the ddnet protocol

16:29

lot of games do that i think

nothxnohttpinourcodepls

whynothxkokpls

we already are linking against a thousand libraries, we are going to become the emacs of games soon

no problem!

16:30

what would we link against for the http server?

a http parser

we can just copy nginx in and statically link nginx into ddnet-server

would be the best case

source code of nginx is not that big

yeah @heinrich5991 would statically link nginx

isnt there a header-only http parser

16:32

server

we can make nginx header only

boost.asio?

cat src/*/.{c,h} > new.h

yeah lets link in boost too...

dont we already?

we just got rid of it

oh

16:33

lets use nginx then

I even celebrated with champagne

monkaS

16:36

is the ddnet news file public?

16:36

the one that appears in client

It's a json file we publically host

16:37

https://github.com/nodejs/http-parser this doesn't look too cancerous

nodejs/http-parser

http-parser - http request/response parser for c

http://prntscr.com/j0cahq half life 3 confirmed

Embedded image

16:39

looks good to me

I'm not sure if I want to expose a per server API tho

i want

16:40

it makes info gathering lot easier

16:40

don't think only as ddnet, maybe other ppl also want it

16:40

in their own sv

I think I'll just expose a "management interface" and have a central API that routes/caches

16:42

hmm, or a central API that just forwards requests to the per server api

https://info.ddnet.tw/info @Ryozuki

deen

and with finished maps: https://info.ddnet.tw/info?name=deen

oh

16:43

i wanted just wanted to add the changelog ^^

ah, nope

16:44

only in private repo, sorry

yeah np

@deen Why ddnet does not sponsor qshar kog?

1

why would it?

16:45

most of ddnet ppl know kog

16:45

qshar already posts his events in the forum too

16:45

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3194

and that has many servers of countries that do not have kog to ddnet already has several in all countries

oh you mean sponsoring servers?

16:46

i woudl better first have our servers payed

16:46

https://ddnet.tw/funding/

16:46

xD

Yeah, we could. But then we'd kind of have to merge and trust, and that seemed like a lot of work

I do not know the type of a server because Brazilians do not have ddnet kog we have the mount ja

and might even reduce innovation, for example KoG is playing around with new features like moving tiles

it was on April 1st

aprils fool?

sim trollagem 1 April

16:49

yes

fonts look cleaner now :o

better get ddgores ready to replace kog

the updater didnt work on windows (edited)

16:51

i had all white screen

16:51

oh

16:52

its steam fault not teeworlds

16:52

something changed >:(

Steam seems to lock files and prevent updating them

yeah, but even after a clean install

I think we aren't allowed to have an updater with steam

running the game from steam shows white screen

16:53

@Learath2 i replaced teeworlds steam binaries with ddnet

16:53

it worked till this update :o

16:53

helps me keep record of this http://prntscr.com/j0civr

Embedded image

16:54

mmm even disabling steam overlay doesnt fix it

have the full ddnet client log?

no

16:54

how to get logs

logfile

Why do not you join the qshar or do you speak ddgores?

15.52 KB

16:56

it looks like a relative file path problem?

that's what i expected

16:57

ddnet is stricter about paths since a few versions

D:

Error! Shader program wasn't linked! The linker returned

16:57

you have the data/shader?

yep

16:57

made a clean install

16:57

it doesnt find audio also

16:58

https://hastebin.com/udopamamur.md (same log)

Edit storage.cfg

16:58

add_path for data

16:58

Hm, there was a change about this

16:59

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1042

Allow specifying DATA_DIR by compiler option by yangfl · Pull Req...

add_path C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Teeworlds\tw\data

16:59

this did the trick

16:59

works now

17:01

Embedded image

17:01

i hate this :(

17:01

some languages use more words than english

Yes, change the code to respect the length of the rendered text

17:02

instead of a fixed value

ill make a issue

better make a fix

:o

17:02

will look at it then xD

17:03

by respectting the length of text you mean making the slider smaller?

17:03

or putting it more down

17:03

i guess last

i love this new font engine

17:07

it looks lot better

17:07

i feel it

it defenetly looks different but what exactly changed? the sans?

its lot faster now

17:09

and has more quality

faster... text? xD

rendering it

please sponsor or create a ddgores? Brazilian noos so bad without the maps are ddnet ddrace maps that are few

But lots of text is too high now, right?

misplaced?

17:10

yeah

Looking at text next to tee

17:10

should be moved down a few pixels

i think jupeyy fixed it

17:10

but no hotgix released

17:10

hotfix*

17:10

Embedded image

17:10

this

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@Deleted User is this fixed?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1098 Some text related fixes (color, positining)

17:11

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

15f0efc fix text color if opengl3.3 is off - Jupeyy 1a74d8c ui fixes: text positining - Jupeyy dbc8321 Merge pull request #1098 from Jupeyy/master - def-

yes, fixed

17:11

just bors didn't merge again...

xD

please sponsor or create a ddgores? Brazilian noos so bad without the maps are ddnet ddrace maps that are few

remove bors toptri

toptri

@Ryozuki so what about steam? It works without steam?

17:12

maybe steam starts DDNet from another location

i fixed it editing storage.cfg

17:13

it works without steam yes

17:13

(without steam worked also without editing storage)

17:13

we could retake the dicussion about releasing on steam toptri

toptri

17:13

just 100€ from donations

So it's because we no longer have hardcoded DATA_DIR

i guess

17:14

it looks for files from cwd?

17:14

maybe it should look from binary (edited)

Can we talk later? @Ryozuki @deen

17:15

bb

Not sure how we should fix this

17:15

@SkyHDTV not sure what for

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

a9a7109 Revert "Allow specifying DATA_DIR by compiler option" - def-

anything more for hotfix release?

not that i know of

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

910b507 Version 11.1.1 - def-

17:20

[ddnet:11.1.1] 0 new commit

@Deleted User f3 and f4 texts when voting are still too high I think

17:27

and text next to tee in killmessages

17:27

and the text "Score board" as well as your own finish time in scoreboard

server doesnt save rcon password after update

autoexec_server.cfg was changed :/

i think unless you typed something by youself it creates a new password everytine you open it. now it does it always

not for me

17:32

aaaah

17:32

but that might be fixed in 11.1.1

17:32

because of path thingy

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

fd1d11e Version 11.1.1 - def-

@Im 'corneum please try

do

17:36

it still changes the password. but i also still get the update announcement even after updating it and i am not sure if i type the right thing in Autoexec_server.log

eh

lol i am retarded...

that means the update is broken?

17:37

or that

i typed in .log not cfg

17:38

yes. it was only my level 5 autism kicking in again

@Ryozuki works again in steam?

yep

17:39

server is full now .-.

Thanks to everyone working on DDNet

its a pleasure

17:42

i love this game to much

update seems broken. that has happened some times before on other updates. no matter how much i redownload the new version it always shows "new version out" (edited)

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #1099 Bors

It's way too slow, and @def- seems to have some trouble getting it working at all. Do we really want it?

@Im 'corneum that's probably a bug in 11.1 :/

17:52

so you'll have to download new version manually, sorry

a shit

Hello, how do you think it would be good to sponsor the qshar kog gores? or create a ddgores many countries does not have server of gores and only has little maps to play in dddrace of ddnet who agrees of a force thank you for the attention

As said, there are many implications for a merger, we'd slow them down and they'd slow us down, we need to start sharing servers which means they'll need to either use our infrastructure or we'd need to revise it together. Also might need to upgrade some of the servers to accommodate the extra people.

but how? I think it would work qshar with ddnet

i am for releasing more gores maps on ddnet

18:02

and eventually they can be seperated into their own ddgores server category

but how what?

he is just trolling qshar

thonkery

18:06

am i supposed to feel like im being trolled because ddnet hosts fng? lol

thonkery

4

yes we are totally trolling you

:O

ddnet has a lot of ddrace servers in each country could replace some by ddgores or qshar kog

ineffective troll, more fng servers is always good happy

happy

we have one server per location

GER2?

Hello, how do you think it would be good to sponsor the qshar kog gores? or create a ddgores many countries does not have server of gores and only has little maps to play in dddrace of ddnet who agrees of a force thank you for the attention

1

why do you keep posting that

18:27

we answered already xd

how do i do ddnet project?

propose it to an admin

18:28

?

ok thx

come to teeland.net to test telegun :3

@Deleted User actually, the new release does lag a lot more

19:28

I can feel it while playing

19:28

on modern intel gpu

19:29

hm, or something wrong with my system

19:29

can't reproduce reliably

Well the new release crashed already a few times, while I had never problems before and I was up to date with updating

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

c8c4fd5 Fix reconnect timer display... - def-

@n000b not good, can you reproduce and/or debug?

I can reproduce it, not now tho

19:36

I have no knowledge about debugging

19:37

Tried to compile it once and it felt impossible xd

Hi, I got a bug using the editor after updating my client. I pressed the windows key and when I returned to the client my mouse was invisible, I saw it moving thanks to the x,y position and both right and left clicks were “disabled”. Couldn’t access to the menu (save...) by random clicks but could still ctrl shift e and play without problems.

do we put braces on 1 line ifs?

20:29

i dont think we do

20:29

@Learath2 ?

20:30

Image attachment

20:30

this isnt my function

20:30

it uses no braces for 1 line ifs

20:31

i saw this a lot

I prefer braces for further Extensions

20:34

And sometimes readbility

i dont

20:37

it kills readability

I hate it too, take it up with @heinrich5991

the code you found weird, i copied it, it detects if laser hit a tee

20:38

hits*

20:39

it checks also if laser can hit tees etc

resizing window on linux breaks the text temporarily @Deleted User

21:04

but I guess that's not so bad, just for the kill messages

Mh thought I update text after resizing, how does it lag more? Less frames? (edited)

22:23

Yeah text positioning is broken sometimes, the new tenderer should center the text instead of using random numbers, that makes text positioning much more deterministic for other fonts

devs, can you make it so when my friend changes their username for teeworlds, it will change their name in my friends list as well?

[quakenet] <some_random> Hey, would you be so kind to give me results of https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/d15dcd3c58f206d961a46a832c3bb68f3c87a563/datasrc/compile.py as I don't want to download whole source and set everything up?

ddnet - DDraceNetwork, a mod of Teeworlds

23:10

[quakenet] <some_random> anyone

[quakenet] <some_random> thanks

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