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[quakenet] <jxsl13> anyone on the line?

01:08

[quakenet] <jxsl13> need some theoretical ideas for a bot detection

heuristic or deterministic?

[quakenet] <jxsl13> heuristic would be neater :D

01:14

[quakenet] <jxsl13> tbut a combination would be also ok

train a neural network to detect bots on teehistorian files

[quakenet] <jxsl13> tI don't know anything about ML :O

01:17

[quakenet] <jxsl13> some combinatorics maybe, but not ML ._.

[quakenet] <eeeee> building a large enough library of positive and negative examples is the hardest part

02:11

[quakenet] <eeeee> then you need to automate testing of detection against this library (and make it fast an easy to run)

02:11

[quakenet] <eeeee> after that doing heuristics or ml or whatever will be a breeze

02:15

[quakenet] <eeeee> and starting with the heuristics without the previous 2 steps would be a waste of time, don't even bother :P

maybe ask @noby (edited)

i think @noby mostly checks for mouse inputs and delay between shot and aim or something and he used some graphs xxxD

I've been thinking... wouldn't it be nice if one can start a local server directly from the editor, maybe even with remembering your position and autoreloading the map on save. This way, it should help with quickly iterating on certain map part.

Just move spawn tile, and you can always bind reload But still

the editor could use many cool features. but the general interest is too low and the amount of work is too much

Where can i pull the teehistorian files from?

[quakenet] <deen> @CptDalv The official DDNet ones? They're supposed to be secret

you could steal speedrun techniques with it

Hm

hmmmm might contact rei if he can h4xx0r that >:D

@deen "Learath2 - heute um 03:16 Uhr train a neural network to detect bots on teehistorian files" Have to create my own dataset then ^^

If you're serious about that, then we might provide you an anonymized part of the data set. @heinrich5991 opinions?

Well maybe creating my own dataset is more convenient in terms of sorting/labeling...

@deen I guess. shouldn't be hard to anonymize

12:53

however, we have next to no labeling

ChillerDragon

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #41 Update front page video (Adrenaline 5)

xxd

21:51

shameless selfpromo

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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #41 Update front page video (Adrenaline 5)

ty @deen c:

22:03

xd what happend? closed lul

22:04

rip me getting in the web dev list of ddnet

22:06

i like how the yt hash starts with eZ_ xd

"Oh, didn't see that, made the same change right now. Thanks anyway."

22:22

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/pull/41#issuecomment-376690076

Update front page video (Adrenaline 5) by ChillerDragon · Pull Re...

ye i found that too

23:20

so he was doing the same thing xd and found my pr aftwards?

23:20

thats sad .-.

23:21

how was he even that fast

23:21

the video was public 20 secs