DDraceNetwork - developer

[quakenet] <deen> !config

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[quakenet] <Nimda> Usage: !config <trigger> [<name>] [<value>]

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[quakenet] <deen> !config ddnetstatus enabled no

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[quakenet] <Nimda> This plugin doesn't exist.

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[quakenet] <deen> !config ddnetmaprelease enabled no

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[quakenet] <Nimda> Config variable enabled for plugin DDNetMapRelease has been set to no for channel #ddnet on quakenet.

Well I guess we don't need to see the releases here

I just updated the client and the game ran at 4 fps, it was fixed by downgrading the client again, but I thought I'd let you Devs know anyway

mhhh

12:13

from what version to which version?

Was 10.8.6 pressed update in the client and it updated to the newest version

try turning opengl3 on or off, depending on what it was before

one minute, need to install 11.0.3 again

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With opengl on the game doesn't run at all

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I have to set gfx_opengl3 to 0 in settings_ddnet to get it to run again

hmm

If you want to see releases, go on discord, or use a news reader: https://ddnet.tw/releases/feed/ You can even use some tool to convert feeds to emails if that's more convenient:

14:10

Or fix the nimda plugin

Nah we don't need that fix i gues

[quakenet] <deen> saw that too

lol

[quakenet] <deen> I mean you can take that as the opportunity to figure out how to fight back against different kinds of attacks and then apply to some anti-ddos company. but that doesn't really help us^^

for the german-speaking community: http://www.stupidedia.org/stupi/DDNet

DDNet

[quakenet] <deen> stupidedia is shutting down btw

oh, didn't know

[quakenet] <deen> DoNe wrote the article 3 years ago

it says that they're changing their software and concept

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but still remain up

[quakenet] <deen> scroll down

ah, thanks

[quakenet] <deen> So DDNet is disappearing from all wikis, first DDNet wiki, now stupidedia

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[quakenet] <deen> My non-programming related post is doing ok on HN, I'm surprised

even though you forgot to call your voting ring. ts ts

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deen: my ddnet 11.0.3 client tells me "DDNet 10.8.6 is out! Update now"

[quakenet] <deen> heinrich5991: wrong update server

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[quakenet] <deen> weird

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[quakenet] <deen> Actually my post was getting pushed down on HN thanks to anti-flamewar detection (more comments than votes), but a mod pushed it back up

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[quakenet] <deen> -anti

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> deen: heh. I also cycle to uni every day :)

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[quakenet] <deen> I used to do it once a week, but it was ~45 km each way, so a bit exhausting

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yea, it's more like 15-20min for me

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> public transport is also 15min, but only once every 20min

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I end up getting to uni faster than if I played the waiting time lottery

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[quakenet] <deen> heh

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> okay, but your cycle path looks way nicer :D

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I'm cycling through streets

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[quakenet] <deen> also, umap is pretty easy to use, never made a custom map before

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> TIL going through red lights as a pedestrian isn't forbidden in germany, if the situation permits it

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[quakenet] <deen> haha, good to know but I did that anyway

[quakenet] <fstd> heinrich5991: source?

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[quakenet] <fstd> https://www.bussgeldkatalog.org/fussgaenger/ says it can cost you (gasp) 5 euromonies

Fußgänger - neuer Bußgeldkatalog 2018

llll➤ Der neue Bußgeldkatalog 2018 für "Fußgänger“, z.B. Infos zu § 25 StVO sowie Punkte und Bußgeld für Fußgänger, wenn Sie eine rote Ampel überqueren.

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[quakenet] <fstd> that said, who cares about red lights ;)

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[quakenet] <fstd> ("if the situation permits it" sounds awfully vague, too)

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> mhh

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> empty street for example

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> https://dejure.org/gesetze/StVO/25.html

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> enn die Verkehrsdichte, Fahrgeschwindigkeit, Sichtverhältnisse oder der Verkehrsablauf es erfordern, ist eine Fahrbahn nur an Kreuzungen oder Einmündungen, an Lichtzeichenanlagen innerhalb von Markierungen, an Fußgängerquerungshilfen oder auf Fußgängerüberwegen (Zeichen 293) zu überschreiten

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> mh..

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> it sounded differently when I first read it

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[quakenet] <Learath2> well if the street is empty, there is no policeperson to fine you :P

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[quakenet] <fstd> the police have proxies called 'red light cameras' tho :s

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[quakenet] <fstd> (for cars anyway)

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[quakenet] <Learath2> doubt they watch them for pedestrians crossing

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[quakenet] <deen> That reminds me, I remember Lady Saavik always being pissed at having had to pay two fines for jaywalking in Poland :D

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[quakenet] <fstd> Learath2: pedestrians can't trigger them to begin with

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[quakenet] <fstd> (but it prevents me, sometimes, from ignoring a red light with my car when it'd obviously be safe)

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[quakenet] <fstd> like, when literally nobody is around, like at night

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[quakenet] <Learath2> in turkey they flash all lights yellow after 2am, means cross at your own discretion

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[quakenet] <fstd> in germany they do that with some lights, but it doesn't mean "cross at your own discretion", that would be totally un-german

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[quakenet] <fstd> instead it makes the next lower level set of rules take effect (which the traffic lights normally override)

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> :D @ that would be totally un-german

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[quakenet] <Learath2> the phrase "lower level set of rules" would short circuit an average turkishpersons brain, so they just say "cross at your own discretion, don't be a cunt, don't kill anyone"

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[quakenet] <fstd> actually i'm wrong though, what i said refers to traffic lights that are completely off

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> traffic lights are completely off in the direction that has right of way

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> in the other direction they're blinking yellow

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[quakenet] <fstd> yellow blinking means they're kinda sorta off, but the road that sees the blinking (only 2 out of 4 lights will blink) has to yield

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[quakenet] <Learath2> I think if you look at the actual laws tho, flashing yellow is just becareful

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[quakenet] <fstd> yep that

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> but on pedestrian crossings they still blink yellow at night

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> even though cars have right of way AFAIK

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> like traffic lights for cars that are solely for a pedestrian crossing, not some T-intersection or intersection

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> rm command still runnnign

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> but it still hasn't hit me what is wrong with it

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> still running

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> waah

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> ah done

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> mh.. nothing looks off

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[quakenet] <fstd> this is why i like ^T

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[quakenet] <fstd> aka SIGINFO

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> you know what distinguishes SIGINFO from SIGUSR1? :)

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[quakenet] <fstd> yes

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[quakenet] <Learath2> I don't

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> SIGUSR1 terminates the program if it doesn't handle the signal

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> SIGINFO doesn't

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[quakenet] <Learath2> TIL

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> but that's about the only difference

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[quakenet] <fstd> lol

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> it's responsible for not being able to reliably be able to send SIGUSR1 to programs

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[quakenet] <fstd> process groups*

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[quakenet] <fstd> and that's a huge difference

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[quakenet] <fstd> another big difference is that SIGINFO's purpose is clear, while SIGUSR1 in no way means "dump info to stderr"

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yes, but that could be mitigated

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> i.e. define SIGINFO=SIGUSR1

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[quakenet] <fstd> by adapting a lot of programs in case they have a spare signal to use

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[quakenet] <fstd> not really feasible

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[quakenet] <fstd> i mean it would work for dd, i guess

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[quakenet] <Learath2> not really a good idea imho, programs could be using both currently

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[quakenet] <fstd> fetchmail however would try and pull mail then

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[quakenet] <fstd> init/systemd would do god knows what

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[quakenet] <fstd> programs that use SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2 are in trouble generally

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[quakenet] <fstd> yeah and what Learath2 said too

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[quakenet] <Learath2> systemd would prolly handle it just fine, it'll upload the signal and the current state to the cloud and the neural network will figure out what you want

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[quakenet] <fstd> ^^

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Fahrverkehr in einem verkehrsberuhigten Bereich unnÃ¶tig behindert 5 â‚¬

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> heh

? xd

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english plz

yes pls :(

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some people actually read those convos ^^

[quakenet] <fstd> sorry, this is now a german kanal.

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[quakenet] <Learath2> if you'd actually read it you'd come to the conclusion that the last german line was something along the lines of "jaywalking = 5e"

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[quakenet] <Learath2> :P

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[quakenet] <Ryozuki> also it looks like the ö is parsed wrong by the irc-link

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[quakenet] <Ryozuki> or idk what it is

"die Artikelproduktion und -Qualität der letzten Monate sagt eigentlich alles" from Stupidedia's last message, now i feel guilty xD

haha

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"the article production and quality of the last months actually says it all "

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Autobahn betreten oder Ã¼berschritten 10 â‚¬

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Sollte er sich im Rahmen der Straßenverkehrsordnung für Fußgänger für die Fahrbahn entscheiden, darf er nur am rechten Fahrbahnrand gehen. Beim Abbiegen nach links ist zu beachten, dass sich der Fußverkehr nicht links einordnen darf.

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[quakenet] <fstd> not sure if i ever mentioned it, but i rode a bicycle, drunk, at night, without lights, on the autobahn once... it's only ~5 km and hell of a shortcut compared with the regular route and that stretch tends to be super empty at night, so it seemed like a good idea

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[quakenet] <fstd> anyway it wasn't empty enough, someone did call the cops on me and i only barely and with luck managed to escape

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[quakenet] <fstd> wonder what that would have cost me...

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[quakenet] <fstd> apart from my license

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[quakenet] <fstd> [1394060.164169] Out of memory: Kill process 1694 (factorio) score 300 or sacrifice child

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[quakenet] <fstd> [1394060.164177] Killed process 1694 (factorio) total-vm:4530344kB, anon-rss:1431628kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:260720kB

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[quakenet] <fstd> WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK

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[quakenet] <fstd> fucking lunix

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[quakenet] <fstd> the real offender here was firefox

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[quakenet] <fstd> but YES why not just kill factorio instead

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> factorio has autosave, hopefully it wasn't so far back

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[quakenet] <fstd> yes, it'll be fine

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[quakenet] <fstd> doesn't make it any better though

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[quakenet] <fstd> i mean i'd be fine if it terminated on its own behalf, or even segfaulted

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[quakenet] <fstd> but preemtively killing the wrong process?

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[quakenet] <fstd> i mean factorio was literally idle for the last 30 minutes, and i was just zooming into google maps (checking into whether my 5km estimate was accurate)

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[quakenet] <fstd> when everything froze for like a minute

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[quakenet] <fstd> and then factorio gets rekt instead of firefox...

[quakenet] <eeeee> guess these days lunix assumes anything that's not a browser is probably some helper process for the browser

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1044 Remove the blanket rules for files without extension

This rule caused a couple of problems with Visual Studio.

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heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1045 Some CMake improvements