DDraceNetwork - general

robloxs is cancerous

no u

yeah i agree\

01:31

im cutting myself as we speak ''-''

01:34

welp every damn clan has rejected me for not being experience or banned me for trolling ima quit teeworld or just go off the radar nice know all of you internet cunts

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Join gdin clan

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02:19

@Sanity

join Somepeople

why do you need a clan so desperatly?

idk

he was asking that guy^

04:10

and this is 2018 clans are the most important thing ever

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04:15

wow @Sanity i cant believe they didnt accept u

telecp 12 on Binary is impossible

07:47

how to do that

the part on Binary is impossible since grenade physic fixed

gg

I like when devs who never actually play change game physics after 4 years.

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Like you could have finished it anyways

@Im 'corneum well, they almost play on daily basis, but they don't realize the impact

?? How can a fix make maps impossible?

09:11

And why its still not refixed?

Because the old physics made the grenade explode twice sometimes

09:52

so you had stronger explosions

isnt it too late to change the physics of the game what

@deen yes wow and how am i supposed to pass that part?

10:09

Its like fixing hooking through edges 10 years after teeworlds have been made ouch

Haxxxxx

10:11

Thats how your suposed to do the part

What what

Well, that's why I reverted back to the old physics, but was switched on again. I think the idea is that no one really knew about this bug before, so people didn't use it consciously. Now it could be used to easily get better times, so it needs to be fixed. The few maps that are now impossible need to be changed (but I think this has not happened yet unfortunately)

Its kinda unfair to change the maps now...

11:19

and what

11:20

"Nobody" knew about the doublejump after save/load but when it got leaked you saw that some players abused it already about two years

No race map can be ran like before now. Speeding lost any sense

the doublejump save/load thing wasnt a consistent bug, it got introduced with some patch

12:03

(and following that logic it means we shouldve just let the bug there because people could have abused it without us knowing, basically giving ppl infinite double jumps, lol)

@Im 'corneum how often do you think this bug triggered in races before it was known?

maybe just disable the "bug" on race maps?

Everyone mapped tested and played with the old grenade and took it as normal while the jump bug was really a big bug and could not be used in speedruns well

@Im 'corneum how often do you think this bug was noticed? I can see it for maps like binary where the grenade explodes immediately, but for others I can't see it being noticed

yes becasue the old grenade bug was really common

12:07

lol

12:08

you're talking like it happened on every grenade jump, come on now

i never noticed it because i had nothing to relate to. it was normal. and as i understood it happened on every long distance grenade. which is used in every triple grenade which gives it even one boost more. i really noticed it when it was gone. i needed 10 minutes to make a triple whil eit was ezpz before

fix the maps that are really influenced by this bug and no one will complain about the fix anymore

so in the next.... few years? someone will come and say that a part is incredibly hard and asks for help. turns out its impossible now. who is really going to follow that and fix it? i doubt that anything will happen there because "someone finished before so it must be doable"

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admins

*developers, I guess?

wait why are they changing physics stuff so long after the game was released

yeah its logical who has to di it. i meant i doubt its going to be done

are you fixing the map heinrich?

@noby technical debt, and presumed to be not often used

also not everyobne is on forum or discord and thus just has to kill or /save on that map forever nevver knowing whats up with it

yes, that's why it's bad on our part that it is not fixed yet, sorry

12:19

however, not fixing this would have actually led to a situation where fixing it would me more questionable

so... will you fix the maps passively or actively?

fix maps that are reported to be broken

>reported means passive

12:20

seems like we need saavik to fix every map again

lol do a lot maps need to be fixed?

not really

probably not. but must be looked over

but @Im 'corneum is talking about unknowns, I guess

well would take too much time, waiting for people report bugs makes more sense

[6:16 AM] Im 'corneum: so in the next.... few years? someone will come and say that a part is incredibly hard and asks for help. turns out its impossible now. who is really going to follow that and fix it? i doubt that anything will happen there because "someone finished before so it must be doable"

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who knows? first you sort out everny map that doesnt contain grenade. then you just quickly look over in spec and note if there is anything possebily affected by it..... from insane to novice. when it came down to, lets say, 30 parts. test them with old and new grenade. then fix the 5 impossible ones. (edited)

12:24

not that iom going to do it but thats how i would

there is nothing impossible besides some tunezone

actually i doubt anything on novice or moderate required such grenades

@jao even less to test

12:26

what if a part is possible but very unbalanced now

yes, I welcome you to test it, or welcome everyone to report such a thing

once again youre talking like it was a common mechanic or anything

@snail teh solo on generic world? (edited)

lol

does that still work

ofc

are u sure

its a normal triple and grenade on wall

BRAZIL

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BRBRRBRBRBRBR

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BRAZILBRAZIL

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TOMATE CRU

@Deleted User ¬¬

12:48

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@Lexin ofcourse it is still possible but with the bug it was easy to get more speed of a triple jump.

so the part was unbalanced

question is if Loop tested with ddnet or any other ddrace server

was the bug even in ddnet when he mapped it

i thought is was always in ddnet

What the hell

15:00

the fix destroy more maps than the bug makes cheatable

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15:00

did you ever think about that?

@Wombat which maps? There are only 2 maps known which can't be finished at the map moment.

And that change too a rly bit all grenade to all player did in the past ,voluntary or no so its unfair to all to fix that now

@Deleted User it's specifically not all grenade explosions from the past

>misses a day >Some patch comes out >Ddnet proceeds to burn down

@Holi which day did you miss?

the patch wasn't released yesterday

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ededed random name of someone

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16:48

and i guess its a cheated one

16:49

maybe look the demo

16:49

its probably of worstwish

atleast reference the map you are talking about (edited)

XD oh fly to the legends 2

im pretty sure you are allowed to finish with a fakename as long as you dont spam the top5 and since its not known whether all the other guys in the top 5 cheated, removing his rank because he cheated wouldn't be fair. so idk

the other top5 guys are gores pros xd

17:02

pretty sure their times are legit

I missed a bunch of days then

17:03

I haven't been on since flux came out

lol so much bullshit and wrong information about the fixed rocketbug here

is it just me or is something broken with https://ddnet.tw/ranks/ ?

broken how?

works for me

it isnt loading

17:15

directy player links

17:15

waiting for ddnet... and dthen some timeout error

server is overloaded^^

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has been overloaded a lot the last days

17:15

I might have to switch to a more expensive one

c:

17:16

is ddnet doing some yielding/sleeping or why are the fps so 'low' (~400)?

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can I remove it somehow?

@cin yes

17:16

cl_refresh_rate 0, gfx_refresh_rate 0

is the website used more often now?

@Lexin nah, I just think the disk of our hoster is overloaded, shared vps after all

gfx_refresh_rate is vsync I guess and cl_referesh_rate custom frame limiter

17:17

ok, so 0 is disable

there's vsync additionally

Oh shit that’s a legit command, was skeptical when someone kept on spamming to do it

we have 1 thread for logic, 1 for graphics, so that's why there are two refresh_rates

ok thanks, 800 now, still a bit low but fine

cl_refresh_rate 0 gives you ~2ms better ping too

17:18

@cin opengl3?

800fps problems feelsbadman

I think I disabled async graphics, didn't see much use in it

enable async

no disabled gl3

and enable gl3

low fps 400

gl3 seems a bit unstable, not fully convinced, too many shaders

also FSAA 0

yea I think I got the same settings now as 'standard' tw

ok

thanks again

but now your cpu and gpu are wasting energy of course

if i had all the right settings disabled/enabled and my pc caps at 400 and his pc could cap at 800 but because of his settings it's only 400 aswell. is the performance the same? (edited)

:p well one of 6 cores ..

I find fan noise annoying too

17:22

@Lexin not exactly, I think the more performant pc could have slightly lower ping if cpu is faster

not sure what's limiting atm, but doesn't seem too much. (GL driver? but I guess CPU)

17:23

yeah input is a bit better due to high fps (higher polling frequency)

network too

17:23

sending inputs faster

17:27

Maybe someone should write this framerate thingy in a FAQ somewhere

Seems like the majority of players here agree with me and its just logical like that. The amount of maps which are cheatable with this "bug" is very clear, the amount of maps which get broken from this "fix" is unknown, it can be dozens of maps

"dozens"

19:03

ill send 10€ paypal if u find more than 5 maps that actually get broken by this fix

19:03

it only fucks up a few tunezones and thats it

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19:03

easily fixable

19:04

(im not arguing whether fixing it was the right decision or not, but seriously stop overexagerating everything as if it completely broke your game)

Could you stop rage please... You did not even get my point

19:24

"The amount of maps which are cheatable with this "bug" is very CLEAR, the amount of maps which get broken from this "fix" is UNKNOWN"

@deleted-role wtf is with the lag it has just started and pertty much makes the game total shit

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I bet you didnt think that there would be any map which contains a tunezone which doesnt work anymore, but there is one and there could be A LOT more maps you just dont know about

19:26

And its VERY unfair to change a few from the broken maps

@Sanity ur the worst troll i have ever seen

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since when does DDNet influence gameplay?

Despite common belief we actually looked at maps that get affected

@Jesus Christ wtf you mean

Good luck with checking tons of maps

it really is bad lag tbh

19:27

it makes ddrace impossible

Just let the 5 players which are able to "abuse" this "cheat" their 3 cheatable maps

19:27

and dont break maybe dozens of maps

I actually believe that the number relationship is the opposite

and its a very nice conclusion to let a map unfinishable for 2 weeks now

I'm sorry for that