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Between 2018-01-25 00:00:00Z and 2018-01-26 00:00:00Z

@Ryozuki you broke force votes...

00:09

@Ryozuki could you please test this stuff before making a PR?

00:10

or before we merge

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

cb0209d Reapply "Only make grenades explode once (fix b... - def-

as a mapper we have the possebility to speak to the player via tune_zone_enter, which is a cool thing, but... its shown as a server message. its a bit bad for lets say new players who dont really understand where to look at especially when the server is full and there are many server messages anyway. so i was wondering if it is possible to put these tips into broadcast but only as long as youre in the zone? would be very cool. also would reduce the message sound (edited)

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

3c7d9fc A drg5, M Rapture - def-

@Learath2 can u explain further how it is broken? i would expect something better from a dev than "it's broken"

@Im 'corneum braodcasts overwrite each other .-. So the map broadcasts can get overwritten by the clock. Or they can overwrite Moderator broadcasts and map releases and so on

@ChillerDragon hmmm. I thought about that and thought to myself. What are the odds?

They increase by adding this stuff.

06:46

I have to fight a lot with this Problem in ddpp. What i did Is i implemented a broadcast importance. So irrelevant broadcasts like a clock cant overwrite map broadcasts. But what Is stronger? Map or Moderator?

06:47

And idk if my System would fit into ddnet

06:48

Imo broadcasts are great. But in a serious mod they should only appear in a small amount

grenadesar refixed ?

grenadesar?

11:39

@Ryozuki as far as I understood from @Learath2, forcing the vote doesn't work, it has no effect, it doesn't even output anything

"grenades are fixed?" @heinrich5991

currently the double explosions do not happen

11:41

if you know a map that's broken due to this, please report it to me or @snail

great move!

11:42

i like it

11:42

#makeDDNetVanillaAgian

Can someone explain that double explosion problem.

nades can double

11:44

im not sure when exactly but i think if the lifetime is low or 0 and its close to collision or something

if the grenade hits the wall at the same time as its lifetime running out, you'll get two explosions

11:44

one from the collision and one from the "timedeath" of the grenade

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*you'd

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(in the past)

Hmm nice

11:46

What about "cheated ranks"?

died "delete em" xd

Ye just remove the ranks from every map with rocket

xd

@n000b I have decided

that it's unlikely that there are many of them so far

i also think that the influence isnt too bad

11:49

and i hope it

Okay, best decision I guess

we should probably take a look at "Quintessenz" and "Binary", as reported in the forums

Yeah I saw

with what version of tw used datafile version 4?

it was before "copied refactor to trunk"

12:04

@Matodor https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/commit/89ccbd4f7b478b49329fa39be62ee3a5b38641bc

compressed map support. begun to fix things for ctf · teeworlds/teeworlds@89ccbd4

12:04

i.e. before 2007

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*before the end of 2007

thonkery

then I will not support version 3

@Matodor where? what are you programming?

thonkery

https://github.com/Matodor/TeeSharp/blob/master/TeeSharp.Map/src/datafile/DataFileReader.cs thonkery

thonkery

Matodor/TeeSharp

TeeSharp - C# version of Teeworlds server (0.6.3)

heh, I see my doc there

thx for that

if you have useful things to add, please do so ^^

@Ryozuki no output at all

tw in c#?

monkaS

c/c++ > c#

2

never

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only C#. I fell i love

heartw

2

3

hey

3

c best lang

1

1

feelsamazingman

1

1

Embedded image

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"glory C#! C# best! С PLUS PLUS at the bottom! C# easy"

[quakenet] <Learath2> C > everything else, deal with it hipsters

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[quakenet] <Learath2> you come and you go with your newfangled languages but C is eternal, it's omnipresent

❤ true

you are more hipsterish now than we

Just wondering if I have missed something, but is there anywhere published on GitHub source of e.g. https://ddnet.tw/status/ ? main part of website is of course under https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web , but is there a way I could find what generates the not-published-there ones?

ddnet/ddnet-web

ddnet-web - Static part of DDNet's website: https://ddnet.tw/

I bet, it's under status folder

oh, this one is just one directory deeper

17:05

or rather in /stats/server/...

depends on what you are looking for

17:05

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/blob/master/www/status/js/serverstatus.js

ddnet/ddnet-web

ddnet-web - Static part of DDNet's website: https://ddnet.tw/

or not, what i found is https://ddnet.tw/stats/server/

17:06

I'm looking for anything that would produce output being index.html/.php file

If i remember, it's generated every few minutes by his scripts

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check ddnet-scripts

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that serverstatus.js is responsible for information

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about VPS

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I mean, no game servers

17:07

http://www.wasz.ovh/img/FMymzMqP116149

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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/879213ca1fb8615dd67b0cff85d6712be90903d6/servers/scripts/ddnet.py looks like releases page >.>

ddnet/ddnet-scripts

ddnet-scripts - The magic scripts that make DDNet run

@Soreu the rest is generated by scripts in ddnet-scripts

@Learath2 yea, the thing is I can't figure out which one creates what

tell me which one you are looking for

also, is there any simple way I could run it locally to test whole website?

17:09

idc about missing data from e.g. database

# m h  dom mon dow   command
*/20 * * * * /usr/bin/nice -n 19 /usr/bin/ionice -c 3 /home/teeworlds/servers/scripts/update-everything.sh
*/2 * * * * /usr/bin/nice -n 19 /usr/bin/ionice -c 3 /home/teeworlds/servers/scripts/update-status.sh
#* * * * * /home/teeworlds/servers/scripts/print.sh

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one of them

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probably update-status.sh

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but I don't see it

update-everything.sh runs other scripts

q.q

I know, right. but can't find that file

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maybe private

including the ones that generate the webpages

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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/master/servers/scripts/update-everything.sh

ddnet/ddnet-scripts

ddnet-scripts - The magic scripts that make DDNet run

oh, here

update-local builds the vote files and the map archives

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/blob/master/servers/scripts/ddnet.py#L563

ddnet/ddnet-scripts

ddnet-scripts - The magic scripts that make DDNet run

17:11

here you go

I think I just reminded myself why over year ago I gave up on writing redesign

ranks.py generates /ranks

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Yeah not really easy to redesign when the site is written this way

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you might aswell rewrite the whole thing at that point

not my skill

I remember our bootstrap version

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xD

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It was quite nice

generating web pages with python, while smart, is not the best idea

though, the mess in https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/tree/master/www drives me crazy when sitting in editor

ddnet/ddnet-web

ddnet-web - Static part of DDNet's website: https://ddnet.tw/

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finding damn index.php file took me a while

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and it's sorted alphabetically xd

Yeah, it should be rewrite from scratch. But, i don't think that anyone would do it

@Savander that's why I know about ~7 projects of redesign

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and I started at least 3

One with me I guess

of redesign/rewrite*

I guess you could reskin it maybe

ye, union of lazy developers and such things @Savander

heh, it's better to make new DOM

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than messing in current one.

@Savander sure but we already stated "Ain't nobody got time for that"

@Learath2 wanted to go with changing just css file, but still needed to make few changes to templates

few changes shouldn't be too hard @Soreu, just needs some digging

and tbh, writing new articles have to be pain in ass at the moment

new articles?

with current system

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ya

the blog posts?

ya ya

oh do I see some twig or sth there?

if anyone is interested, this is how it looks after whole night of digging:

some templating engine, thought the index page was also generated by python

Image attachment

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or without fancy community-based background with some nice screenshots:

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Image attachment

I though its Nunjucks

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tbh

could be anything

You know I don't know hao2 web

I learnt Nunjucks few days ago

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I really like it

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https://github.com/savander/nunjucks-scss-browsersync-boilerplate/

savander/nunjucks-scss-browsersync-boilerplate

nunjucks-scss-browsersync-boilerplate - Boilerplate for developing with using of Nunjucks (Template Engine), SASS/SCSS (CSS PreProcessor), BrowserSYNC and GULP (For automatization).

and before anyone starts screaming that ppl won't like it, that: http://v2.ddnet.tw/WIP/ was made during whole day of edits based on comments from commuity (old big group on skype), I'm just trying to recreate it in working way

– DDraceNetwork

I made simple Automatization, like reallly simple

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but works perfectly for me

Pro designing

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I mean, I don't know what people expects from teeworlds site

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probably they will never like any changes

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And second, the question is, if we want to follow trends

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or we want to stay behind

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Well, due to the part of always someone not liking something, I was damn surprised back then when everyone in the channel participated in my fun of figuring out nice new design, and everyone (in the group) at the end liked it

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still no idea how that happened xd

old style from 2014 for reference

Image attachment

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my impressive logo skills

have seen far worse looking websites

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and the current one neither looks bad, I just like to improve how stuff looks

tbh

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we don't need to follow super extra new trends

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but hookrace.net

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looks perfectly fine

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just flat white color, with good fontface

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we don't need anything more

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It's not a joke, i really like it

me2

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but i also like ddnet.tw

@Soreu help designing maps xd

@n000b that was too much time-consuming

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(not like I wouldn't like to back on that)

Haha

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #1005 Fix votes, merge ASAP

I forgot a single ! in https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/996 and it made all broke. Right now force votes don't work on ddnet servers, this fixes it. Tested

@Learath2 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1005

Fix votes, merge ASAP by Ryozuki · Pull Request #1005 · ddnet/ddnet

I forgot a single ! in #996 and it made all broke. Right now force votes don't work on ddnet servers, this fixes it. Tested

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also you should give "vote_no" command access to helpers

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #1005 Fix votes, merge ASAP

18:36

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

214a8ba fix votes - Ryozuki

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

151da9a Remove Emojis - def-

banhammer

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why

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god...

votes are votes

what votes

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6058&start=20

If it was configurable, why we deleted it ?

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lul

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Maybe next time, ask people before implementing such things ;p

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or at least before releasing new client

it was in the beta aswell

so people complained?

nope

if yes, why you didn't removed it before? or make pull

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if no, why now

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lol

I have another question, why so important?

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Is just emojis

It's not just emojis

i complained in beta

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no one listened

I mean, it's overall problem

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About new features

others complained as well

and remvoes

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very often, they are made jsut because you want to

Then people complaining

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first ask, then do

It's not wasted dev-time as someone else coded it, people complained, we removed it (edited)

it's for people

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not for devs

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imo

people were not harmed by emojis

stop talking about emojis

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I;m talking about overall problem

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with new features

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it's just like, boom

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without asking, very often. Only sometimes there's some kind of post on forum, with question

which feature was just like boom? please inform me, we don't have many devs nor do we have much time to waste

It would be much better

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Anyway, it's your project

@Learath2 new hooktrhough

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we were lucky it survived imo xD

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people also hated it

If you are going to complain about it, you should give examples

Then I should list every feature here

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they are discussed here, with devs

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no with real people, which uses it

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;p

new hookthrough is a bugfix tho, the old one didn't even work as intended

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I just want one @Savander

devs are no real people

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ok

don't think like, devs playing few hours every day

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and the amount of devs is pretty small

I play every day, from 1 am to 5am with @heinrich5991

true

find us on any fine server that hosts "Back in the days 1/2/3" or "Stronghold 1/2"

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that's why devs shouldn't make community decisions

okay guys, you are taking everything too personal

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I don't continue discussion here

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Xd

have a nice day

No u

Who said anything personal

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You say devs don't play, we have like what 4 active devs, 2 of us play every night, Ryozuki is always around, that makes 3/4

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You want to discuss something, then don't want me to reply to any of your arguments

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and you leave me hanging... whatever, I'll keep working

rip savander

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lol you made him quit

and all I used were rational statements that included no insults, no words with bad connotations or even a bad tone

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I guess I was supposed to lie and say things I didn't believe in

Well it was more about how can 3 people think what is best.

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But you know, I don't really care.

then he failed to get his point across, not like I told him to stop arguing

Haha

I'm completely okay with discussing things

i play more than "few hours"

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my steam records actually 1500+ hours

It's not a discussion if I'm not allowed to talk tho

@Ryozuki concerning numbers?

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But I got also like at least 1000 hours I guess, but I am still noob

i play before tw was even in steam

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so thats not the real time

wtf

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that escalated quickly

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=29&p=61078#p61078

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n0000b stfu now

20:11

you are annoying

nice tournament, now for registering is soon

vanilla, rly? thonkery

thonkery

Why should I be silence, while you are only spamming your video @Roco

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@Roco you didn't find other teeworlds discord channels? I got some extra If you want

[quakenet] <ReiTW38> Hi people, does someone have a little tutorial about converting .mp3 to opus? when i'm trying to get on this link https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=582, i get a little message "You are not authorised to read this forum."

write in ur favoruite search engine "mp3 to opus mlg free web converter 420" press enter and get crazy results

[quakenet] <ReiTW38> god damn

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[quakenet] <ReiTW38> i found some uganda knuckles by searching dat

[quakenet] <deen> ReiTW38: https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2429

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[quakenet] <deen> where did you find the link? we should update that

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[quakenet] <ReiTW38> ehm "How To Map" from ddnet.tw

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[quakenet] <ReiTW38> you have for Sound Layer: Detailed Tutorial by DoNe

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[quakenet] <ReiTW38> this link

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

5a38f5b Fix github links - def-

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