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@Learath2 I found the mistake

01:35

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/953

Overhauled job system by heinrich5991 · Pull Request #953 · ddnet/ddnet

The engine now takes std::shared_ptr, this will ensure the appropriate lifetime of the given parameters, it also allows for proper destruction. Remove the now obsolete IFetcher interface and ...

@Learath2 I added some tests

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #954 Change some config variable defaults to official server values

sv_emoticon_delay 1 pls

Y pls

12:09

There is no reason to not have it and kinda everyone likes it more

pls pls

@ezy I know a reason not to have it

12:33

@jao I'm just adjusting the values in the code to the values the official ddnet servers have

performance @heinrich5991 ?

no

tell me ur reason then o.O

@heinrich5991 it's the default value on all servers but GER and RUS

@jao I can't find that configuration on CHN

12:36

So why is it not set to 1 on GER RUS and CHN?

where is it set to 1?

12:37

@ChillerDragon it would definitely, and without question, to people spamming the emotes

Usa

and where is the problem with spamming emotes?

Tell me the reason why not set to 1

12:38

Xd

it is nice for swag and communication

because it's annoying

USA Chile Brazil CAN ZAF

Only 1% of players find it being annoyinh

communication works fine at 1 per 3 seconds, in my experience

12:38

@ezy stop making up numbers

No i know from expierience

no, you don't

Look even in this chat

you just pulled that number out of nowhere

12:39

you can say "few players find it annoying"

3 People fighting for it 1 against

but

Then take that

that's 25%

It's true tho that ger people like it when they join USA for example

we need an official poll

12:39

in forum

what do you mean, like it? they use it?

12:40

@ezy anyway, there's your reason

12:40

you said there was none, my job was only to remind you of people on the other side of the debate

(edited)

hi

Every blocker server has it. Ive never seen someone dislike it but i have seen some liking it

spamming emotes is the best

y

12:41

f3

And another one

Yes they use it and ask me why it's not the same on GER

12:43

I mean, is there an actual reason to not have it on GER or was it just never changed because no one thought about doing it

I don't know who changed it where tbh

12:43

if I was to unify the settings, I'd change everything to 3 (edited)

Then you will upset all Americans

12:44

They really do spam emotes a lot

good thing I'm usually playing on ger servers

you should put a chat cooldown in chile servers too

12:45

lul

12:46

1 text per 2 minutes would be great

Xd

one thing is that USA is more of a fun place tho while GER is more competitive-ish

you are funny guys

13:11

It's like you take numbers from nowhere, and also you telling us what "people would like to see", like you are perfect guys to know that. No, you arent

13:11

No one here is

13:12

stop fighting in that way, and give us advantages and disadvantages, and afterall as people

13:12

on forum

<FlushA> Hello

13:12

<heinrich5991> hi :)

sure I can if people give me feedback about it

ask people *

<FlushA> i have a question about bam and visual studio

13:12

<FlushA> can i ask ?

13:12

<heinrich5991> sure

13:13

<FlushA> how i can compile bam with visual studio 2017

By using visual studio?

<FlushA> no

You mean, by using that "compile" button?

<FlushA> i can use visual studio as compiler

13:13

<FlushA> but i want use bam

13:14

<FlushA> like this bam release in a cmd screen

I bet, that you can execute custom build tool

13:15

via visual studio

13:15

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hefydhhy.aspx

13:15

maybe that will help you

13:16

Why not using cmake then ?

<FlushA> cmake is good but every time open client after cmake done and this make me slow in my coding

huh?

<FlushA> :D

13:18

<FlushA> my English is a too bad i know sorry about that

no no, my either.. don't worry

just, in visual studio you have a play button

13:19

if you click that, it will compile and run

<FlushA> exacly

but you can execute only build

13:19

via visual studio

<FlushA> i just want compile codes not run

@Savander I'm perfect

13:21

lul

<heinrich5991> FlushA: have you tried following the cmake instructions at https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5765 ?

13:21

<heinrich5991> you should be able to "just compile" there as well

13:21

<heinrich5991> without executing

You can use the shortcut "CTRL+SHIFT+B" and it will just build without running.

13:23

@heinrich5991 Have you know any good books about algorithms?

13:23

from beginning, I would like to learn

mh...

but no idea, where to start huh

I'll ask someone

I feel like a bad programmer, without good foundations

mh.. as said, I'll ask someone

Thank you

perhaps you could ask on some subreddit as well, they usually give good answers

right, maybe i should start to use reddit

13:28

But if you would know something, I would be appreciated

<nemo2> It's definitely a good idea to know algorithms and which ones are best to choose under which circumstances, but it is interesting to me how few opportunities I've had to ever make a fundamental data structure

15:48

<nemo2> in my entire paid programming career, I've had a reason to implement a sort exactly once

15:48

<nemo2> for j2me

15:48

<nemo2> so far no reason to implement any custom map or tree.

15:49

<nemo2> hedgewars does have its own doubly linked lists, but I bet those will go away if/when we transition to rust

15:49

<nemo2> and it wouldn't even have those if unc0rr wasn't trying to stick to non-OOP pascal

@Savander regularly see people working on "Algorithms in C" not sure if it's any good tho

I don't want to reinwent algorithms

17:25

just want, to know how they works and be better in making custom if needed

<Learath2> I think that's what the book teaches tho

tha'ts why im asking for a book :D:D

17:29

if you know good one

<Learath2> "Algorithms in C" is the name of the book :P

ohhhhhh

17:45

Am I stupid ?

17:45

probably

<Learath2> definately not

<fool_> what library is ddnet dependent on to be able to run on linux

18:58

<fool_> it doesn't start. I must install dependency, then I must play.

18:58

<fool_> what library is ddnet dependent on to be able to run on linux

read Readme.md

<fool_> readme.txt -> CTRL F -> dependency, linux, ubuntu

19:00

<fool_> nothing. just tell me.

There's clear instructions

<fool_> I don't want to compile.

19:01

<fool_> I trust you not to build virii into the binaries..

sudo apt install cmake libcurl4-openssl-dev libfreetype6-dev libogg-dev libopus-dev libopusfile-dev libsdl2-dev

19:01

without dev

<fool_> I just had to install one graphics runtime or whatever for ddnet to run

19:02

<fool_> no cmake.. I use the libraries

19:02

<fool_> *binaries

19:02

<heinrich5991> fool_: try to run ddnet from the console

19:02

<heinrich5991> it'll show you what is missing

19:03

<fool_> how to run it in the console? omg I'm a noob. I tried ~/DDNet-10.8.6-linux_x86_64$ run ddnet

19:04

<fool_> ddnet didn't work either

You need at least this: curl freetype2 opusfile sdl2

<heinrich5991> ./DDNet

19:04

<heinrich5991> fool_: ^

Am I right @heinrich5991 ?

<fool_> Okay. libSDL2-2.0.so.0 is missing. THank you heinrich5991

19:07

<heinrich5991> fool_: I'm away for some time, can't help you for the next half hour or so

19:07

<fool_> I will manage. THank yuo.

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can someone say if/when this thing is finished that you can play maps on your homeserver and still get the ranks?

when what is done?

22:13

oh

i heard one big problem is that you cant say where tele will spawnb you

it would make it technically possible. we're still far away from that

22:14

yes

22:14

we'll make that predictable somewhen

ye pls

22:16

because i cant speedrun anymore for like a week now

im trying to compile ddnet with bam but the dlls are missing

23:23

bam: error: 'ddnet-libs/opus/windows/lib32/libopusfile.dll' does not exist and no way to generate it

23:23

should i do it with cmake?

have you downloaded it?

<Learath2> do you have ddnet-libs cloned?

libs are in another repo

ah sry didnt think of that

23:24

sry

im getting multiple compile errors that SDL.h is missing but its clearly in the libs folder :( src/engine/client/sound.cpp:11:17: fatal error: SDL.h: No such file or directory #include "SDL.h"

@ZimE is there a reason you try to compile it with bam?

@heinrich5991 i didnt want to download visual studio

23:52

compiler

what compiler do you use?

mingw

that's also possible with cmake

ah ok thx

bam juz looks simpler

23:53

bam server_release

23:53

and done

after you install bam

ye i did it with bam long time ago, so i thought i can do it again

but, bam is rather simple to install

you can probably do it, but we'll eventually get rid of it

and even simpler to use

ok

@Savander where do you see the complications for cmake?

Are you sure, that you have SDL downloaded?

There shouldn't be that kind of error ig uess

@heinrich5991 does mingw have cmake?

I mean, with cmake you have to do additional steps

you might want to try bam -c config

I don't say that it's harder, but just more steps. So it feels a bit more hard to do (edited)

@ZimE cmake has mingw I think

23:57

@ZimE do you have cmake on the command line or as the GUI?

@heinrich5991 i have a mingw installer

23:57

@heinrich5991 im searching still for cmake

https://cmake.org/

i think i dont have it

23:57

ye

23:57

ill download it

23:59

ye, but i didnt want VS

23:59

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