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Between 2017-11-21 00:00:00Z and 2017-11-22 00:00:00Z

<heinrich5991> \o/

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<nemo2> hm. interesting. pipelining was removed. "not useful to maintain" boo - still lots of non http/2 sites out there

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<nemo2> but was funny to me how those "http2 speed test demos" rendered exactly as fast, or even faster in http 1.1 with pipelining enabled

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<nemo2> ah well

firefox uses GPU by default?

<nemo2> depends

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<nemo2> windows, linux or OSX?

windows

<nemo2> also about:support should tell you

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<nemo2> in that case probably GPU use

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<heinrich5991> I thought it uses the GPU by default everywhere

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<nemo2> it should

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<nemo2> but...

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<nemo2> actually these days coverage is darn good

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<nemo2> also. GPU everywhere doesn't always mean same efficiency in acceleration

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<nemo2> there's different levels

Cool: WebGL 1 Google Inc. -- ANGLE (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Direct3D11 vs_5_0 ps_5_0)

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Google is like everywhere

<nemo2> https://m8y.org/tmp/testcase429.xhtml ← years ago I made this page to replace this awful awful effect someone was doing in JS updating CSS gradients 30 times a second

even in WebGL renderer driver

<nemo2> and...

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<heinrich5991> nemo2: do you have the mac builds by your coworker?

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<nemo2> it ran with 0% CPU usage in Safari. 200% CPU usage in Chrome on OSX, 150% CPU usage in Firefox on OSX. 0% CPU usage in Firefox on Windows

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<nemo2> 0% CPU usage in IE on Windows

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<nemo2> 200% CPU usage in Chrome on windows

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<nemo2> depending on what you're doing you can get wildly different results

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<nemo2> heinrich5991: by unc0rr's coworker? yes

I tested it on chrome now, its like 0%CPU usage

<nemo2> Savander: also there's the new quantum work being rolled out in windows first. I can dig you up a link on it

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<nemo2> yeah. this was years ago

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<heinrich5991> do you know the error message?

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<nemo2> it also rendered with ugly banding at the time

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<nemo2> both of those were eventually fixed in skia

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<nemo2> but at the time it was frustrating due to chrome market share

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<nemo2> was hoping for an easy win on the effect

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<nemo2> heinrich5991: sure. hang on. you could also drop by our chat if you're feeling helpful

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<heinrich5991> where is it?

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<nemo2> 13:53 < didels> nemo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ftdobppwynztcum/Hedgewars-20171119.dmg?dl=0

Hedgewars-20171119.dmg

Shared with Dropbox

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<nemo2> irc://irc.freenode.net/hedgewars

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<nemo2> is linked off website

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<nemo2> 13:53 < didels> game itself crashes first time, clicking second time (of third) - loads

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<nemo2> 14:40 < Zorg> nemo https://gist.github.com/zorgiepoo/9ba1d80495ac12712bb5ea769eb5ec02

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<nemo2> 14:40 < didels> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/h869zKmlXCVr2vn7aOkK/

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<nemo2> Savander: my point was more you can be CPU accelerated but not accelerating everything

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<nemo2> or even "nearly enough"

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<nemo2> Savander: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/10/the-whole-web-at-maximum-fps-how-webrender-gets-rid-of-jank/ ← more stuff being put on GPU

The whole web at maximum FPS: How WebRender gets rid of jank – Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog

The Firefox Quantum release is getting close. It brings many performance improvements, including the super fast CSS engine that we brought over from Servo. But there’s another big piece of ...

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<nemo2> due in upcoming months

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<nemo2> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/Quantum_Render page w/ tracking bugs etc

It will replace current renderer?

<heinrich5991> yes

amazing

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Thank you for link, i will read it. But now it's time to go to bed

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Goodnight!

night

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

00b650b M Adrenaline, M Everdeen, M Sleepy, M P2Z_Islan... - def-

ddnet doesnt work at all on mac osx 10.6.8

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the newest version says it "cannot be opened due to a problem"

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and the older versions crash quickly after joining a server

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pls fix

kappa

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feelsbadman

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<nemo2> heinrich5991: you awake?

zzz

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<heinrich5991> nemo2: yup

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<nemo2> had a question for you on other channel â˜º

have you tried Visual Studio Code?

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I'm looking for replacement for PHPStorm

If only we had some developer with a mac

HMH ?

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and noby is dev too he should fix himself lelel

huh?

no u

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if i didnt have a newer computer and had to fix this myself i would just try to port ddnet antiping to vanilla client cuz its the only part i use anyway

no hoook coll?

no point, it gives away ur position to the enemy

?

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It's usefull in ddrace

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tbh

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but, if you want only antiping

yeah but i was replying to the sugestion of me fixing the problem and im not a ddrace player :p

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

930e742 Momentum scrolling on iOS - Learath2

is there an xxlddrace linux version?

Take source and compile it by yourself (edited)

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https://github.com/AdVetter/XXLDDRace

AdVetter/XXLDDRace

Teeworlds is A retro multiplayer shooter, XXLDDRace is a DDRace mod, with some extras.

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I think it's that

<nemo2> antiping?

It's feature in DDNet Client, that gives you ability to predict grenades, shots, movement

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based on your ping

when ur server gets ddosed ._.

<heinrich5991> nemo2: antiping is more than normal tw would do, usually it mostly only predicts your own character

<nemo2> huh...

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<nemo2> I guess deterministic lockstep isn't practical in a realtime shooter

no way

<nemo2> Spring uses that, but I 'spose batching operations when playing general isn't a big deal

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<nemo2> ... and Hedgewars ofc, but since it is turnbased is no problem at all

Is it better to play with it all the time or only when laggy?

<heinrich5991> nemo2: seen the backtrace I posted in #hedgewars?

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<nemo2> nooope

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<nemo2> lookng

@Deadpool antiping causes shaky movement. Generaly everything is shaky, if prediction fails in predict :PP Because it need to correct state

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of every object on your screen

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