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Between 2017-09-26 00:00:00Z and 2017-09-27 00:00:00Z

i think sp|someone found another bug, apparently announcements on ddnet only work in random order, in sequential order they get stuck on the last one

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/engine/server/server.cpp it seems like this can be fixed by just changing line 2787 from if(m_AnnouncementLastLine >= v.size()) to if(++m_AnnouncementLastLine >= v.size()) ??

<jerry_> anyone here?

04:17

<Learath2> sure

04:18

<jerry_> Good i have a question: why does haisito! have no points?

04:19

<jerry_> he's been around for a long time & finished many maps

04:19

<jerry_> https://forum.ddnet.tw/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1587

<Learath2> think we gave him a rename

04:32

<Learath2> yep we did

04:33

<jerry_> oh that makes me feel a lot better

04:34

<jerry_> thanks, i think a note when you search his name would be nice

he changed name to W'

Anyone want to tell me how to properly cache stuff? https://gtmetrix.com/reports/ddnet.tw/tLiSQxXO Otherwise I'll take a look myself later

GTmetrix Performance Report: A(93%) / B(87%)

Fully Loaded time: 1.7s, Total Page Size: 405KB, Requests: 14

<heinrich5991> deen: do keys like pos1 etc. work for you on the ddnet servers?

@deen I activated caching for 1 day in nginx

11:47

you can easily modify it in /etc/nginx/site-available/ddnet

11:47

https://gtmetrix.com/reports/ddnet.tw/hkYVKsQQ wants to have longer caching

GTmetrix Performance Report: A(93%) / B(87%)

Fully Loaded time: 2.1s, Total Page Size: 406KB, Requests: 14

11:48

if you want, you can tell me how long you want it cached, or edit it yourself

11:52

you can enter "max" for "cache as long as you can", and these time suffixes: https://nginx.org/en/docs/syntax.html

<deen> heinrich5991: what does that mean? pos1 key on keyboard?

12:20

<heinrich5991> yes

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

4fe6dc5 Fix non-random announcements (thanks noby) - def-

<heinrich5991> it messes up the command line for me

12:20

<deen> not sure what i have a bind for on that

12:20

<deen> ah

12:21

<deen> didn't test maybe

12:21

<deen> needs to be fixed then

12:21

<heinrich5991> (I mean via ssh, not on the game servers)

12:25

<deen> ah

12:25

<deen> yes, works for me

cool

12:34

<deen> wtf @Dr. Jekyll

12:42

<deen> Crazy stuff

looks like good stuff for tutorial

12:42

part

<deen> We were waiting with Steam release until the Tutorial is done. I think by now Steam Greenlight doesn't even exist anymore, haha

yeah greenlight has ended

12:54

replaced with something else tho

yra

12:57

but i guess

12:58

you still can realese your game fom greenlight

you already have a submission on it?

yes

12:59

they had only to upload

12:59

files and mke product site

<deen> but without a tutorial ddnet is impossible to get started with

that's right

it looks like it's still possible to release ddnet through steam through greenlight

13:50

it still shows up in the place where you can edit apps before publishing

yes, because ddnet had good opinions, it's not like they removed greenlight and every games

13:52

You got ability to release game. Anyway, now it would be more exepnsive if ddnet wouldn't be allowed

<heinrich5991> deen: how long should images/css/js be cached on ddnet.tw?

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<heinrich5991> I used a conservative value of 1 day for now, but the site suggests longer time spans (and isn't too wrong about it, I guess)

In my opinion, it could be longer time. since you can just add version number to js/css

13:54

it will be refreshed immediately

Do "server settings" (map tune zones etc) get loaded clientside ever?

they aren't, so far

Any barriers to me adding my own data into it and loading on client?

what kind of data?

like - will servers just ignore data they dont understand

14:00

im changing group clipping areas to show/hide quads, so i need somewhere to store clip values

so you add clipping to layer groups?

yeah, modifying it on tune zone change

ah, you want to dynamically change it

14:03

I'm not entirely sure about the best place to put this

14:04

putting it into the server config is probably not the worst place

the server will just ignore improperly foramtted data?

it's stored as a list of console commands

14:05

console commands that are invalid aren't executed..... but they do output stuff into the console

what about hiding it in one of the unused info tables

you could also just add a new data item in the map

14:09

we don't have to search for space, the format was designed with extensibility in mind

a good ddnet tutorial would be really big, but if the tutorial only explains basics to be able to play novice imho its enough.

that was roughly what i imagined

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/game/editor/auto_map.cpp#L346

ddnet - DDraceNetwork, a mod of Teeworlds

16:14

is there a reason why this rand is not being seeded with srand?

just installed ddnet on a new setup, and it's running really nicely except that I'm getting 1 second frame drops every few seconds

16:19

anything obvious that could cause that?

vsync etc disabled?

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also fsaa

yeah

16:24

fsaa 0?

os? updated gpu drivers?

fedora 26, running bspwm with x11

<eeeee> heinrich5991: 1 day sounds fine. it's not like browsers will reload the whole image every day, just means they'll revalidate it

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<eeeee> caching for more will reduce latency a bit, but i wouldn't do that unless we have a solid plan on how to e.g. hotfix the .js if we release a broken script accidentally

eeeee, ?ver=111

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etc

<eeeee> yes, adding git revision to filenames could work

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<eeeee> just saying we should probably have that in place first, and then we can increase the max-age or w/e

<heinrich5991> deen: I guess a single timeout is nothing to worry about? ssh: connect to host rus.ddnet.tw port 6546: Connection timed out

<deen> heinrich5991: unfortunately that's normal. we have never fully stable connections

TIL you can fetch github pr's along with normal branches so you can easily check them out

RUS dead?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #876 [?] Add condition variables

<Learath2> @Dr. Jekyll seems so

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<Learath2> deen: ^^

<Henningstone> I wonder is there any special reason for CRenderTools::RenderTilemapGenerateSkip being in CRenderTools? It doesn't access any of its attributes or methods, but it does access members of CLayers through a pointer passed to it. Wouldn't it make more sense to have this function in CLayers instead?

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