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<eeeee> heinrich5991: but msvc still supports at least some c++14 features, why do you have to downgrade to c++11 instead of relying on the CI to prevent features not implemented in msvc from landing in master?

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<heinrich5991> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B14

C++14 is a version of the standard for the programming language C++. It is intended to be a small extension over C++11, featuring mainly bug fixes and small improvements. Its approval was announced on August 18, 2014. C++14 was released on Decemb...

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<heinrich5991> do we need some of these features? (I think this is ment as an honest question)

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<eeeee> there's nothing we absolutely require right now, but some of those might turn out to be useful. what's the downside of that?

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<heinrich5991> less compiler support

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<eeeee> like how much less

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<heinrich5991> unknowns to me

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<heinrich5991> but since you asked, I checked debian oldstable

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<heinrich5991> it has gcc 4.9, gcc 5 supports c++14 completely

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<heinrich5991> (according to wikipedia)

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<eeeee> ok i agree we should support building in oldstable

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<eeeee> at least for client

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

72a17da Change to C++11 in CMakeLists.txt, bam.lua - heinrich5991 d6f2dc7 Merge pull request #872 from heinrich5991/pr_dd... - Learath2

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #872 Change to C++11 in `CMakeLists.txt`, `bam.lua`

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #873 fng2 entities

golden spikes

xd

@noby since the "golden spike" entity is rather bright - same as the ones of blue & red - I bet it would look better if the sun would be also bright, instead of dark as now

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but whatever, just my thought

@Theowyn made the entity not me

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but ye not a bad idea

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

0bd51db fng2 entities - nobody1 ac0999e Merge pull request #873 from nobody-mb/master - Learath2

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #873 fng2 entities

<Learath2> Was going to do that one but completely forgot :/

yay

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thx

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happy

Hi, I wanted to ask if it is possible to add a Texture change option to ddnet Client to change texture (game.png, particle.png, emoticon.png and cursor.png) ingame. like in Allthehaxx client [ https://github.com/AllTheHaxx/AllTheHaxx ]. Would be nice, since you can personalize your client an ingame experience in many ways with ddnet already (tee settings [name, skin (color), ddfat and ddcat], menu color, hat color, laser color, entities (background), ...). I would love that function and its optional to use.

AllTheHaxx/AllTheHaxx

AllTheHaxx - Keck inside! —

<deen> @Deathman Yeah, sounds good. Someone can port the necessary changed to ddnet

Can anyone help me to get my ghost updating in DDNet ?

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played a map, and i am doing better times, but my time at ghost wont update

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?

Can anyon fix it

<ochristi> have any of you seen political ads in useragent/web logs before?

<Nimda> Stop Over 1.0 by N9mkOik just released on Solo at 2017-09-22 18:00

^ bugged

My Ghost isnt updating in teeworlds

You have the latest ddnet versions?

ye

Server?

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Official one?

im offline right now, but i was on a ddnet server

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run_g6

cl_race_save_ghost on?

ye

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i get faster as my ghost to finish, and the time isnt updating on the ghost

weird

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working for me

hmmm... it does not happen on longer maps? sounds like a bug that has been fixed in version 10.8. and several people confirmed that it is fixed =\

hm

maybe some modified server that uses other finish messages

some things you could do: 1. check again if you really have at least version 10.8 2. try another server (official one) 3. try another map 4. check if demo recording works 5. move your existing ghost to another directory and try again

i will try and say you then

can ddnet add a invisiblemode in Race ? So that other guys cant spec

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like /unspec or something

?

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why would you do that

do you mean /showothers?

Im playing race with a friend and a guy is every day joining us, and takes our tricks xD

he's learning it's bad ?

no he can race

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its had to explain

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hard*

don't understand

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It sound like you want to be hidden

yea

but i don't see reasons

If i want to make a good time, that guy arent stealing my tricks

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thats not fair

How it's not fair

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you know how to tripple ?

they have to find it out self

imagine now, that the guy who invented it

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wont show it anyone

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and yes, tripple had to be invented

i mean. the guy who is joining us, knows how to tripple etc, but he steals our tricks what to do better in a run(race)

it's a normal thing in games that you copy others tactics, but you still have to have the skill to execute it properly

in Ddrace and other things ok

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but in Race its fucking up

nothing different

Don't think so, that option will be implemented

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but if you want to try, github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues

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or forum

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let's discuss this.

I want to hear the opinions of other good race like cammo netherman or someone who is playing race often

I was playign race for a ffew years

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And i can tell you

I doubt deen or any other admin wants to implement this

i don't care

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if anyone want to learn from me

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fine !

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He want to use my tricks? fine !

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jeo me either (edited)

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jao, sorry

But for guys, who wont get spectated, its a good cmd or not ?

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If i want to race with out getting spectated all the time, then is a /unspec cmd good or something like this

Then we should also make a command

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to save your nickname

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and disable spectating for you as well

and disable spectating for you means ?

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that im visible ?

Because I don't think so that anyone would like to be spectated by you if you don't allow them to watch your game.

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no

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that you shouldn't be able to spectate

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others

Like, if i have the /unspec cmd on, that i cant spec others ?

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Thats fine

no

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like never

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because you are mean lol

hm. sometimes i spec netherman because i want to look at this nice run.

but then he can activate the /unspec

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its fair for everyone

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or just /unspec [name]

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that a person cant spec you anymorre

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like a blockfunction

I don't like it, anyway

Its ok

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maybe i get some other opinions^^

One of message on DDNet

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says

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"watch other people to learn"

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it would break that point

never saw that message

it was very often, don't know how now. Not playing much

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just saw like "if you dont know how to do a challenge, try to spec someone" or something like this

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just saw this in ddrace

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But i dont think, that everyone is activate the /unspec

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the message can stay, but the function would be cool too

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or just a block function

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./block [name]

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he cant spec, whisper you etc

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you cant see his messages, he cant see your messages

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Then the blockfunction isnt used often

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block function for someone who you dont like etc xd

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some reason, because he blocks you often

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idk.

if he blocks you often, then he will do it

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and

that was just one of the reasons

we cna't now check if the preson you blocked

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is the right person

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no auth system

yea, but i you dont want to write with the person, or something

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like block function in skype or something

Thats already in client

but on skype you can verify is the person is actgually

jao where ?

and yes , you can block nicknames

Players tab and then mute

but it will restart every connect

ah

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can this be permanently ?

Don't think so

and with the spec function, that he cant spec anyone

Because it's done with client id probably

ok. it hasnt to be permanently

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but

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With the spec function, that he cant spec you

That wouldn't be permanent either

y

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thats ok

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but with the unspec

that wont happen lol

why not

uve already gotten an answer by jao and savander (edited)

i just saw, because they should look at the tricks or something

lets prevent ppl from learning by watching other ppl yay

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u even admitted watching netherman urself to learn some stuff

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and now u want others not to be able to spec u (edited)

i just watched his cool runs

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not to learn anything

its just an extremly selfish behaviour tbh

3

analyze what are you talking

jao perfectly stated it

"i just watched his cool runs"

u can watch tricks but that doesnt give u the skill to execute it

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so if ur scared about being beaten well then they just executed it better

im not scared about that

instead of trying to keep others lower than u, focus on pushing urself higher

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wrong mindset..

but i hate it, if the same guy is always spectating me to look at me, and steals my tricks

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he does it every day

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he is doing his start different as mine

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and then i see he isnt moving, then he is doing the same shit as me

It's life lol

so u should be flattered

Are you such a pro racer?

nah

btw u can also type /showothers and not notice him anymore

but every day in the evening, i am playing with a friend some race, and then the over pro racer "rayman202" is following us, and tries to do the map

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he has like 3 sec lower time as my friend and me

Syltoox, please stop

then i see he isnt doing anything and is doing some runs and gets like 0,1 time better. i mean. i beated it then, but its just fucking up

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Savander xD

you said that several times

y

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but

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Idk

just ignore him

no

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i cant

How is it fucking up? It's called competition

instead of pay attention

jao but not with him

why not (edited)

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cmon man, look at the pro players races, and steal their tricks

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if you can done it better

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then fine !

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no one will be mad

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end of discussion

Can there be a function, that a person cant follow me then ?

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thats a other thing

Lol? How should that work xd

like.

You are on the server and he gets banned by default? XD

im not showed at his serverlist

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no

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if he joins random the server its ok

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but that he cant see my in his friendlist

My god xD

or if he searchs "syltoox"

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Savander sry, but i hate him

man, it's open source game, without auth system

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anyone can have your nickname

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just change yours

Change your name, that's the only solution

i got 1,5k pts xD

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and i wont change it every race

Are talk to him, maybe that helps

Then you have answer, no there's no option

then deal with it

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do u realize u are literally creating the problem

Or*

u could play and not mind him

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or compete with him

and i hate the message: rayman202 has joined the game xD

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orhis time

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i dk

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xD

do u have nightmares with rayman202 in it too?

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btw thats way too offtopic for #developer

it's not our problem actually, go to the doctor

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maybe he will help you with your angry

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it's not sarcasm

[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Pull request opened: #5 preparation to show/hide unfinished maps

closes #4 I tried to do it without javascript in css so it still needs the css additions from https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/pull/36

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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #36 css additions to show/hide unfinished maps

Needed to make the changes from https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/pull/5 work like requested in https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-scripts/issues/4

[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Issue closed: #4 Unfinished maps on /players/ should be collapsed by default

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[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Pull request closed: #5 preparation to show/hide unfinished maps

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[ddnet-scripts:master] 2 new commits

c14e94d preparation to show/hide unfinished maps - CrashtimeHD c736ab8 Merge pull request #5 from CrashtimeHD/master - def-

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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #36 css additions to show/hide unfinished maps

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[ddnet-web:master] 2 new commits

02bc483 css additions to show/hide unfinished maps - CrashtimeHD 0dbd2a8 Merge pull request #36 from CrashtimeHD/master - def-

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